I do appreciate it when people catch Ken Ham in those moments when he thinks he’s preaching to the faithful. He abandons all political caution and lets his freakish creepy views hang out. Here’s an Instagram video of Ken Ham preaching against that wicked Kamala Harris. He starts like this:
Like to see Kamala Harris’ latest embarrassment? Excuse me, it’s with a group of drag queens, and that’s why everything is in pink as well.
He then shows a brief (very brief, like a second or two) clip of Harris smiling and clapping. Where’s the embarrassment? We’re supposed to see this as a horror, I guess.
That tells you something about the state of this nation. You should judge that against scripture.
I mean, so evil.
Oooh, so evil. So embarrassing. Then we get another blip of Harris saying,
We trust women to make decisions about their own body!
Oh, she needs to learn some science, because a fertilized egg is not part of a woman’s body. It’s totally separate, and it’s a unique individual made in the image of god, and so she’s calling for the murder of many humans as she can in the mother’s womb.
My brain blacked out momentarily, hearing Ham declare that someone else needs to learn some science.
Uh, no, a zygote is genetically distinct from the woman’s cells, but it is part of a woman’s body. It divides to generate a trophectoderm, literally a feeding structure, that develops into a placenta that infiltrates and interdigitates with the woman’s uterine lining, intimately sharing her blood and nutrients for 9 months, inseparable from her tissues. I should think a woman ought to be able to make decisions about her health, her metabolism, her body, all these things that are profoundly affected by a pregnancy.
But Ken Ham is a creepy lying twerp. He then shows this bizarre image.
What is it with far-right cartoonists and their desperate need to slap labels on their metaphors? Do they lack the confidence in their art, and fear that it might be misinterpreted? This is Ben Garrison levels of a lack of faith in the intelligence of their readers.
I expect him to consider “evolution” as one of the storm of evils besetting the nice, “normal” family out rafting on their Bible, but “gender” is bad now? And “male and female restrooms”? I guess the last one sort of makes sense if you’re sufficiently regressive — after all, it was businesses providing women toilet facilities, rather than just for men, that allowed 19th century women the freedom to enter the market place. I wonder if Republicans are considering a ban on women’s restrooms?
I do think that having the presumably Christian characters in the cartoon clinging to an anchor in a storm is a good metaphor. I notice they didn’t feel the need to label that one.
Fight creepy with creepy!
Stanzipotenza: “Kamala Harris social media team” # shorts
.https://youtube.com/shorts/md9i1jMst3M
Obviously, Ken Ham and whoever made that image haven’t read the Bible. It endorses polygamy, infanticide, and abortion. Also slavery, rape, and mass murder. Just sayin’.
[1] An egg is part of the body until it is released from the ovary. Then it is separate (but inside) her body until such time as it is fertilised and implants, at which point it becomes part of the body again. If an egg does not become part of the parent’s body, it means it was unfertilised or did not implant, i.e. zero chance of being a viable pregnancy.
[2] Funny how ‘infanticide’ and ‘polygamy’ are in that diagram. Has Ham never read his holy book?
I suppose it’s a sign of progress one of the faithful is a black woman who appears to be about eight feet tall.
Also, that’s not how anchors work.
I was also confused by “male and female restrooms” being on the evil list. I think they meant “restrooms for both males and females in the same room” but they didn’t have the word “co-ed” in the vocabulary.
I love it when PZ talks dirty. No wonder Mary was swept off her feet.
;-)
‘I do think that having the presumably Christian characters in the cartoon clinging to an anchor in a storm is a good metaphor. I notice they didn’t feel the need to label that one.’
they have a label, it’s just a little bit offset. they’re transgender! all those cis folk are being raptured, but the transfolk are saved!
@chrislawson #5
Anchors, how do they work???
That kind of labelling has been around forever. I imagine Jack Chick tracts is where Ham got the style from.
I wonder how common infanticide was among the early Christians.
Obviously, the terms scattered around are all concepts taken from the Bible. We all know the Bible is big on infanticide, polygamy and racism.
Male and Female Restrooms must be taken from Deuteronomy 23:12-14
Probably not unknown at least.
Infanticide was common in xian Europe up until recently.
For Ireland, the 20th century and they have the mass graves to show for it.
Common enough that we have a word in English for it. Foundling. Abandoned babies that are rescued by someone.
What lowered the infanticide rate was increasing standards of living and…birth control.
Birth control which was and sometimes still is, opposed by xians.
Infanticide still occurs today in the USA.
We read often about infants found abandoned somewhere and many states have places where unwanted infants can be dropped off without penalty.
A guy I went to school with has his history start being found wrapped in a blanket in a basket on a church step in Florida.
Infanticide was not unheard of in China until 1949 (and has probably continued to some extent, even if the authorities censor it).
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The fun part is Rin De Satan in Florida pretended late-term abortion and infanticide is allowed in some liberal states (he is a former military lawyer, he knows better).
Trump has pretended late-term abortion and infanticide is allowed in liberal states on two TV debates, 2016 and 2024.
We also must forget those cisterns found full of remains in Irish convents.
If I’m caught in a storm with only a giant book of fairy tales to keep me out of the water, the last thing I want to “cling to” is a friggin’ anchor. I also wouldn’t be standing.
Clearly “infanticide” is their label for abortion which is just a lie. No one’s killing infants with abortion. And, I take it that “euthanasia” is their opposition to voluntary end of life, i.e. keep them alive for as long as possible no matter how miserable. So not only forced birth but forced life in misery. Very sweet, Ken.
It continually irritates me that all these white male Evangelicals keep including Black people in their imagery and talking points. They certainly don’t feel a need to include us in anything else involving the running of this country.
Okay yeah, Black Evangelicals can be just as regressive as the white ones, just without all the added racism, white nationalism, and hang-ups about bodily autonomy.
Can people like Ken Hamm stop including images of us in their batshittery though?
Hadn’t heard of this, but it tracks with all the other patterns of exclusion.
Remember reading about how viciously some people opposed handicap accessibility for government facilities.
Methinks Ken Ham has been a bad boy. Someone should give him a telling too.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1rvPsH3ZPCzuBChv/
Wrong link! It was supposed to be one of Kamala Harris towering over a toddler. My fingers are too fat to get it right.
Not the right cartoon, but it will do
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/dxHLGCgskM18Uvyi/
Clinging to the anchor to stay afloat in the storm.
I’ll admit that I never would have thought of that.
Apparently I can’t say this often enough, people still don’t seem to realize it. There is exactly one mention of abortion in the Bible, Old Testament or New. There is not a single mention of it in the Gospels, the Acts, the Epistles, and certainly not Revelation. However, it is mentioned in Numbers 5. Actually there are two versions, one after the other. Here’s the first, from the New International Version.
11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.
16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[d] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”
“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”
As long as we’re reading the Book of Numbers, this is from Chapter 31:
7 They fought against Midian, as the Lord commanded Moses, and killed every man. 8 Among their victims were Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur and Reba—the five kings of Midian. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. 9 The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. 10 They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps. 11 They took all the plunder and spoils, including the people and animals, 12 and brought the captives, spoils and plunder to Moses and Eleazar the priest and the Israelite assembly at their camp on the plains of Moab, by the Jordan across from Jericho.
13 Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle.
15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
The bible doesn’t have much of anything that is useful for modern people.
If you need a few dollars, according to Exodus you can sell your kids as slaves.
These days that isn’t going to work.
.1. The bible doesn’t tell you what to do when you are charged with sex trafficking for selling your 12 year old daughter as a sex slave.
You are going to get 20 years in prison for that.
.2. The bible also doesn’t tell you what to do when you get out of prison and your now 32 year old daughter comes after you with a gun. Because you sold her as a sex slave.
He’s welcome to return to Australia at any time.
Well, if it’s a foreign body, she definitely should have the right to remove it if she wants.
I tried reporting their partisan politics several years ago after AiG did something similar, but there is no evidence the IRS did anything. Perhaps you all can try.
See: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f13909.pdf
There are so many mixed metaphors in that cartoon.
What’s with the Black woman and much shorter White man on the Bible? Don’t they know holding on to that anchor will drag them to the bottom of the ocean if they slip? Would a floating Bible support a 2-ton anchor? Are “Transgender”, “Gay”Marriage'”, “Infanticide”, etc. part of the storm, or are they raining down from the storm, or being blown around by the cyclone? Are they bad, good, or victims?
Only a disordered, critically-unthinking mind could put this together, or make sense of it.
flange,
Woman is in loco parentis to a young’un.
There’s an idiom: https://www.expressioncounselling.ca/anchor-in-the-storm
Luke 1:37. “For with God nothing shall be impossible.”
Yes, they are part of the storm.
They are godless ideas.
Pretty easy to make sense of simplistic babbly stuff like that.
(That a disordered, critically-unthinking mind would somehow be better than an ordered, critically-thinking mind at making sense of stuff is an odd idea)
The people of Oz do not want Ken back.
Actually we have a few more loonies to send to America so you can collect the whole set.
Gotta say, those two on the raft don’t look happy to be there, and seem to be wondering what happens if theynlet go the anchor.
You already sent us Martyn Iles. It’s too much. Any more, and we’re talking diplomatic incident.
@32 It’s hard to be a creationist in a country that has platypuses. Also our national past time is mocking idiots and hypocrites.
If the Idiot Ham took inspiration here from The Raft of the Medusa, he should perhaps give some thought as to how the survivors actually survived.
Is Ken Ham allowed to vote? I didn’t look hard, but he doesn’t seem to be an American citizen.
The floating Bible raft is just so weird.
Newsweek reports that Kamala Harris now tops Trump in aggregate polling. Project 2025 is probably not going to play well with voters. Harris will soon select a running mate at the Democratic Convention so we might see a polling bounce here. Meanwhile the Trump forces are bellowing Harris really isn’t black. As if anybody cares about that. And September 18, Trump is scheduled to be sentenced for his 34 felonies. Gonna be an interesting month. Ham may find it disappointing.
I note the Bible the people in the cartoon are standing on is closed and to open it would ioverturn the raft possibly sinking it and droqning them – IOW, they ain’t reading that Bible and if they did the pages would get all soggy and wash away. Metaphor for something? Also that anchor ain’t helping and has no rope so unless they use the bible to crate some sort of wound paper chain; its pretty useless and a hindrance rather than help. Also they are STILL banging on about equal marriage? I mean I guess they’re still banging on about evolution too but yeesh.
“Polygamy.”
Was something that Ancient Hebrew Gawd didn’t seem to have a problem with until the Levant was conquered by Alexander the Great and the more monogamous Greeks. Of course, the real history of his religion and its Big Book of Bronze-to-Iron Age Fairytales of which Ham and the prudish backwoods hicks who consume his bull are willfully and militantly ignorant.
@ 38
Insert (heh heh) pegging joke here.
Speaking of religious clods with conspiracy theories:
“ Candace Owens claims “modern Satanists” convinced people evolution is real”
https://www.mediamatters.org/candace-owens/candace-owens-claims-modern-satanists-convinced-people-evolution-real
2/3 of all conceptions fail to produce a live birth. By any measure, god is the most prolific abortionist of all.
ref. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK9998/figure/A5174/?report=objectonly
I guess “male and female restrooms” are unbiblical in the sense of going against Deuteronomy 23:12-14.
Re: the cartoon. I’ve sailed a few times, and when weather is rough, the anchor is about the last thing you’d want to hang on to. Also, why doesn’t it have a line? What use is an anchor if it’s not attached to the boat?
Sorry, I missed that StevoR already said that.
Ken Ham explicitly attacks VP Kamala Harris
See YouTube Video below.
How is AiG, a ministry, still tax exempt? Don’t forget that AiG’s shell company, Ark Encounter gets $1.825 million per year in sales tax rebates from Kentucky Tourism and is advertised for free by the taxpayer-supported “Kentucky Faith Trail.”
Of course, you can complain to the IRS at (but they probably won’t do anything): https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f13909.pdf. AiG’s employer ID number is:
33-0596423.
https://youtu.be/1aGZoJCdCpo?si=8iLpBwawPiOYOYbE