I want to shop here now.
Karen gets upset that a store won't let her shop without a protective facemask. She then tried to pretend like she's the victim, despite the store giving her options. This is pure arrogance. https://t.co/qgFLhKjgxd #COVIDIDIOTS #COVID19 pic.twitter.com/OXV4EQLOgD
— Khary Penebaker (@kharyp) May 17, 2020
A problematic customer walks up to a store with a clearly marked policy that you must wear a mask, and everyone cheerfully informs her of everything they can do to help her: they can get her whatever she wants (she refuses, she claims she needs “personal things”, which is silly since she has to inform the store about what she’s buying when she checks out), that they can take her credit card and pay for it for her (she objects that they’d get her financial info, which they do every time she swipes the card herself anyway), yet she just generally makes an ass of herself…and the staff are as obliging as they can be. Stores should use this as a training video for how to deal with a bad customer.
The woman’s name is Shelley Lewis, and she suffers from a severe case of entitled dumbassery.
Heavy.com catalogued the Twitter background checks that began popping up Sunday about Lewis, who seems from her Facebook presence to be a real prize.
Among the topics of conversation are some conspiracy crazy greatest hits, including 5G towers, 9/11, fake moon landings, and the Earth is flat. And, as Twitter quickly found, Lewis is loud and proud in her belief system, having appeared on this Jubilee Media discussion on YouTube, arguing with scientists about whether Earth is flat.
“I live in Dana Point,” she says at one point in this video. “We see too far… I can see San Clemente Island, which is 60 miles away.” She also contends that as ships disappear she can still see them with a zoom lens.
Lewis was a speaker at the Flat Earth International Conference last year, and in her bio it states, “She holds a Bachelor of Science degree from the United States Military Academy at West Point, where she entertained hopes of becoming an AstroNOT.” It further says she was discharged from the military after being diagnosed with lupus, and she now treats the condition with a vegan lifestyle and alternative medicine.
The problem with America is that we’ve allowed this kind of inanity to flourish unchecked, to the point where Entitle Dumbassery can run for president and win.
I thought they were all carrying self-printed cards and certificates with those magic HIPAA words, now they’re just uttering them like it’s “Get thee behind me, Satan”?
Well, there will always be nutcases in the world. I don’t know that there’s a solution to that.
IT’S PRIVATE PROPERTY
Any business can refuse to serve any customer for any reason. There’s no right in the constitution that forces a store to server everyone no matter what. Every convenience store in teh country has a sign that reads “No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service”. Well just add masks. Sorry lady, they totally have the right to tell you to fuck the hell off, but they didn’t. More patience than I would have had.
Shelley Lewis?
Wow, her life really went downhill after Lambchop was sent to market.
Nicest? Not really. Grocery store workers, and particularly managers, have to put up with an awful customer or situation every day. Working retail can be soul-crushing.
No, no…Shari Lewis.
Well, I do recall FL restaurants, right on the beach with signs that say “no shirt, no shoes, no problem”.
But that’s a Dept. of Health thing, I think.
Still, PRIVATE PROPERTY, a-holes. Don’t like it? Go to the local commune.
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This lady was not out to go shopping. She was out to make a video about her ‘rights’ being violated so she could make points with her nut buddies on social media. My guess is the people who run West Point Military Academy were very glad to make the diagnosis of lupus so they could get rid of this loon with as little noise as possible from her. What a maroon.
I live in NYC near the neighborhood that is the epicenter of the outbreak . A lot of people here don’t even speak English ( very high immigrant population in Queens) and they have no problem understanding that they need to wear the mask. This woman is an idiot if she thinks that being required to not infect others is infringing on her rights.
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She’s not the outlier you might be familiar with from the olden days.
Timely today on NPR’s 1A program.
From Galileo To Dr. Fauci: The History Of Science Denial And Conspiracies
https://the1a.org/segments/from-galileo-to-dr-fauci-the-history-of-science-denial-and-conspiracies/
We’ve got magma chamber sized industrial festering self replicating viral meme cesspools spewing flying Shelley Lewis monkeys out of volcano sized propaganda rectums of death and stupidity.
At first I was alarmed that she had Lupus. Just what we need: someone depriving Trump of Hydroxychloroquine.
It was a relief to read that she’s treating it with a vegan lifestyle. No conflict there.
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/Italian astronomer Galileo Galilei stood trial against the Catholic Church in the seventeenth century for defending the heliocentric model of the universe. </>
Sadly NPR’s knowledge of history seems so simpleminded as to be embarrassing.
It’s commonly considered to be one of the most famous examples of science denial in western history
It is, by people who know nothing about the case.
One key thing that would have helped Galileo was a theory that was not obviously wrong. His theory was not the fiasco that “cold fusion” has been recently but when your theory predicts one tide a day, you have a problem.
The entire story is much more complicated but when being called before the Roman Inquisition make sure that your key defense evidence is not unbelievable.
Ugh, this could be my sister who has taken to shopping in Wisconson (she lives about 20 miles south in Illinois, near a ton of shopping areas) just to avoid wearing a mask.
By the way is there really a medical reason not to wear a mask? I mean other than if your on a ventilator or maybe oxygen…
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Are you saying that if Galileo had a more robust explanation of heliocentrism, the church would have been fine with it? Maybe…
Saying that the theory was slightly less bad than cold fusion though, really? Perhaps a better example to compare and contrast would be Wegener and continental drift.
Given the wording, is that wrong? Perhaps the title of the show was misleading, as the bulk of it was about the current situation (one of the key points being that people seem to have trouble accepting that science is self-correcting over time). Personally I’m more willing to cut them some slack on the Galileo reference since it undermines the denialist Galileo gambit, which I think is a more severe problem than the simplified scholarship you noted. Otherwise Galileo could easily have eaten several whole shows, and then what?
So, she has personal items that she wants no one to see that she’s purchasing, which will go into an open basket shopping cart for all to see, then take the highly classified item and put it on the cashier’s belt for checkout, just so no one can see it.
Uh huh.
Oddly, the folks that wrangle and clean the shopping carts at my local Giant are quite cheerful as well.
Now, if they only didn’t rearrange the store a month or so ago, I could’ve gotten my shopping done in half the time I had to spend last week.
Something I say whenever my local supermarket moves everything around… What can I say? I have a mental map where everything is, take the shopping list and plan my movements by aisle rather than out of order entry.
rayceeya — Wrong.
“Any business can refuse to serve any customer for any reason.”
No, legally, they cannot.
And there are no rules in any state mandating that customers “must” wear shoes. “No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service” is racist, classist, and ableist, and completely unenforceable. These signs mysteriously sprang up right after ol’ Jim Crow left, and they’re nothing more than modern “Whites Only” signs.
I’ve known quite a few women named Karen in my lifetime. I don’t recall any of them being anything other than very nice people. I’ve also personally always felt it is a very pretty name. It is unfortunate that it is now associated with such self-important privileged behavior.
Does anyone know if the name Jason has negative connotations? Asking for a friend…
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Kitty, well not “any reason”. Protected classes are protected.
Shirtless/shoeless/maskless are not protected classes.
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Yeah, I’m sure the Church was just peer reviewing.
This is the eternal bane and strife at the center of “freedom of speech”. Logically, allowing complete nutcases to spread and propagate misinformation, which creates a public safety hazard should be illegal. But.. making it illegal is not possible so long as their is a chance that a group, never mind just one, of these wackos manages to end up in public office, and starts claiming that, “Reality is a public safety hazard, so belief in it is what should be a legal offense.”, aka Trump. Even sadder, when/if someone does actually start arresting people for such public threats, it is always the nutcases, arresting the sane people.
A lot of people seem to think the answer is, “Just keep pointing out how wrong they are and giving out good information.” But.. I often fear this is, in some cases, dubious advice, because you can’t expect it to have the impact it needs to if the only people are listening are those that already agree with you, and a few people around the edges, who haven’t yet got to the stand handing out the cool aid.
It seems like an insurmountable problem, especially from the perspective of law.
#18 Yup, I recall the Christian shop that was prosecuted for refusing to make a cake for a gay wedding. Or was that in the uk?
@18 Strictly speaking, almost all businesses, probably for legal reasons, otherwise they couldn’t, have something posted stating, “We reserve the right to deny service.” Now, ‘why” you do this could become a legal issue, and does, if its an obvious violation of the law, like say… discrimination, but, “I am doing what the CDC and my state, or even federal, government recommended to keep idiots like you safe!”, is.. probably fairly solid grounds to tell someone to F off. lol
Ray, the fact remains that “No shirt, no shoes” sprang up in the wake of the Civil Rights Era, when “Whites Only” was no longer allowed. It was and remains racist, classist, and ableist, and inherently unenforceable by law. I’ll again point out that in NO STATE does the Health Department mandate that customers must wear shoes. (That is, it’s not against the law to go barefoot into any business establishment.)
Honestly, your feet are not exactly a “vector” to pick up diseases, unless you have like glass, or nails, or something that can cut your feet, and some shoes won’t help with that either. As for “transference”, resulting from contact with something, then contacting your feet, shoes would do the same, or worse (since, presumably, things could get stuck in the treads, including gum, or the like, which.. kind of “won’t” stick to feet quite so well, ironically).
That grocery store is about 20 minutes from where I live. I have never been there, but I would consider checking it out if I were doing grocery shopping at the moment (I have been using delivery services to minimize exposure). That is some amazing customer service.
I remember those “No shirt, …” signs in stores around campus where I went to school in the late 60s. There weren’t a lot of black folk around. The sentiment seemed mostly directed at “the hippies”.