Not Even Vaguing


Bro.  You’re talking about replacing people at programming jobs, sure, maybe.  But I’m literally watching people program shit with LLMs.  The proof is in the pudding.  A guy I know was annoyed with the app for a given task the creators had loaded with DRM and refused to update, and now working with nothing but LLMs, intelligence, and patience, he has an app with features and functions the humans were too lazy to implement.

Meanwhile right off the bat you link to a tweet where you accuse people of not paying attention to your points.  Well.  I guess I’ll have to wait for part four of your magnum opus to see you address the one in my pinned post, to the extent you will bother.  Prediction: You will elide the most important elements and focus on what you think are the weak points.  Nobody will be convinced of anything.

We have our biases and we’re all wearing them on our sleeves.  Don’t front like that’s just us.

EDIT to add:  The strawberrry thing.  You can trick humans into embarrassing themselves too.  Doesn’t mean the human is useless.

EDIT to add:  I am not sufficiently educated to understand 99% of what you wrote, so take with grains, but your summation boiled down to the “it’s just collage” argument, which, again, is contradicted by the evidence of them producing original constructions.

Yes, they’re made out of information obtained by training, but THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HUMANS DO.  They’re just doing it very differently.  Arguably worse, and you may have made a successful argument to that effect, if I could understand it without a graduate degree.  But it doesn’t make them useless anymore than brain damaged humans are useless.

Ableist against my robot siblings, tsk tsk tsk.

EDIT to add:  Not all humans learn by letters.  Some dyslexic people learn their phonetic languages symbolically, recognizing the shape of the word rather than individual letters within it.  Cool cognitive feat.  Some AIs have some version of this, whether it’s up to speed or not yet.  I have no idea how it works, but you can just try it out and watch ’em go.  oh-oh it’s magic.

EDIT to add:  I can see the labor argument on one hand.  On the other, at my job, the material we work with is complex enough that literally nobody in the organization is right 100% of the time on it.  When we mess up, it can cause people financial damage, up to and including losing their homes, because of hard technical limits on processing time for certain operations.

As soon as the LLMs reach better than human success rate, it would be immoral to let me keep my job, even while it puts my home in jeopardy.  More people are at risk from our human failures than from our unemployment.

The question is whether our employer is going to have the wisdom to wait until the LLMs are demonstrably superior to the median employee in the organization.  Magic Eightball says “Not Fucking Likely.”  HJ Eightball says “It will never be superior to humans” and I’m like, are you and I looking at the same human species?

EDIT to add:  You’re literally asking us to ignore the evidence of our senses and experiences, like a priest.

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