Greg Epstein later did another series of tweets in order to make clear his attitude to feminism and its more acrimonious opponents.
I’ll start with this one.
Greg Epstein @gregmepstein · 4 hours ago
This Sunday, the organization I direct– the @HarvardHumanist @HumanistHub will present an award to feminist media critic Anita Sarkeesian.Ms. Sarkeesian and other online feminist leaders have been the target of an extraordinary amount of harassment by anti-feminists, MRA’s etc.
I want to address those individuals, and anyone else with questions about why we chose this awardee.
Feminism is a core Humanist value. This isn’t something I decided-it’s the consensus view over ~100 years of a “good without God” movement
Mkay? Can we stop wrangling about that? Feminism is a core humanist value. A sexist humanism is an oxymoron. If it’s sexist it’s not humanist, just as it’s not humanist if it’s racist or homophobic or xenophobic.
K? Done?
I’m proud to be a feminist and a humanist. I’m proud to direct an org that promotes both, building community of/atheists, agnostics, & allies
When I say “allies”, I mean we have a lot of good religious people who participate, knowing that what we do is not theistic, but enjoying it
So, if you’re an “ally”, please know I’m speaking *today* especially to members of my own community– fellow atheists/humanists/etc.
I recently saw @voxdotcom: A ’14 survey of the Men’s Rights subreddit found 94% of them identified as “atheist” or “religiously indifferent”
Here’s@voxdotcom article describing these “MRA’s” & how they’ve behaved twds Ms. Sarkeesian & her peers. Not well. http://www.vox.com/2015/2/5/7942623/mens-rights-movement …
It’s a huge problem. Atheists have just as much LEGAL right as anyone to not be feminists-but I’m not safe in my community if women aren’t.
If you have disagreements w/our awardee’s ideas-by all means. No artist/thinker/critic was ever right every time. Not me, not her, not you.
If you behave obnoxiously: harassing/shouting/threatening- you remove yourself from the community of reason. If we block you-you earned it.
.@Twitter only now admits it sucks dealing w/misogynist abuse. http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/05/twitter-ceo-we-suck-dealing-with-trolls-abuse … Atheists have had to protect their own community.
I’m just getting into the dialogue here but many in our community have led. & Blocked. @amandamarcotte @pzmyers & so many more…Thank you.
.@mirandachale 1 man I banned’s profile: “fully licensed misogynist.” In just 2 days I’ve seen awful behavior feminist women deal w/daily.
.@UniversityWatc1 block bigots≠turning on men. It’s pro-men to be feminist. Read Iron John. Join a men’s group-I did. Good luck. Blocked
.@BackToTheBlade Our awardee tirelessly promotes humanist & feminist values in an $50B+/year industry. Don’t respect it? Ok. But– blocked.
So that’s most of how that went.
Trav Mamone says
I posted the link to Sarkeesian getting the award on Reddit’s Humanism subreddit. Turns out /r/humanism can be just as sexist as /r/atheism.
SC (Salty Current) says
Iron John? WTF?
NateHevens. He who hates straight, white, cis-gendered, able-bodied men (not really) says
I thought Miranda Celeste Hale was an anti-feminist? Did I miss something?
If I did, I very much apologize for that.
Ariel says
Ah, promoting core humanistic values, you say? Riiight.
Today in Polish parliament there is a debate and voting on the European convention on preventing and combating violence against women and domestic violence. At the moment nothing has been decided yet. For your enjoyment, here are some extracts from the parliamentary discussion:
Sorry, it’s simply that today I’m following the debate and the juxtaposition with “we have a lot of good religious people who participate, knowing that what we do is not theistic, but enjoying it” was just too ironic.
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A bit later: the parliament has just accepted the convention!!! That’s what is called a good beginning of the day 🙂
EigenSprocketUK says
@NateHevens, I’m not v.familiar with Miranda Celeste Hale. (Me no Twitter)
But it didn’t take me much scanning of her Twitter feed to discern that she elevates some reasonable disagreements with aspects of Sarkeesian’s stuff into a semi-automatic ignoring of anything she says.
My guess is that Epstein was just pointing out to her that he’d blocked the fully licensed misogynist when she hadn’t. Or something.
whocaresidont says
Nate, that’s Epstein responding to her.
Ophelia Benson says
Nate @ 3 – oh no, you didn’t miss anything. She’s explicitly anti-feminist – not the “feminism is great but these terrible SJW-type feminists are horrible” type but the “feminism is horrible” type.
I accidentally ran two tweets together, which confused things. I’ve put the proper space between them now.
NateHevens. He who hates straight, white, cis-gendered, able-bodied men (not really) says
Ah okay. Thanks Ophelia and EigenSprocketUK and whocaresidont. Makes more sense, now…