An evangelical pastor in Fort Worth, Texas mocked and dismissed the covid-19 safety guidelines and said that he was going to celebrate Thanksgiving with his family with no restrictions.
Pastor Todd Dunn had been urging “Faith over fear!” since the COVID-19 pandemic started in March. Just before Thanksgiving, he posted a message on Facebook dismissing precautionary measures advised by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to keep wearing masks and avoid gatherings with family members who don’t live in the same house.
“I’m not wearing a mask when around my family like the CDC requests and we are traveling so we’ll take our chances,” Dunn’s Facebook post read. “And to top it off we are huggers so there you go! There will be no social distancing CDC. Faith over fear!!”
You can guess the tragic outcome. Within a couple of weeks, both his parents died of covid-19 within hours of each other.
Dunn’s reason for his skepticism about the pandemic and ignoring the guidelines is a common one.
“I do feel like the numbers were different in the spring and summer. And my opinion on it was based on the numbers that I saw back then,” Dunn said. “I went seven months and didn’t know one person individually who had it. Now all of a sudden…For some reason there’s been a surge.”
Just because you didn’t see any cases does not mean cases do not exist. And as for the comment “For some reason there’s been a surge”, what do you mean ‘for some reason’, as if it is inexplicable? The surge is because of the actions of people like you.
Apparently he is now taking the coronavirus seriously.
This attitude that if you have not experienced something personally, it is not happening is common among people who do not want to accept inconvenient facts..
Until a few weeks ago, I did not know a single person personally who had been infected or who had died of the virus. But I understand statistics and knew that it was only a matter of time. Sure enough, three weeks ago I heard of one friend who tested positive, then last week three members of the same family showed symptoms and tested positive, and then two days ago a physicist colleague died of it.
“Ignorance of statistics can kill you”?
Kill your *parents *, surely? I don’t feel sorry for this man. I briefly felt sorry for his parents, but on reflection it’s likely he’s that particular kind of moron in large part die to his upbringing, so, no.
“Bringing up a kid deliberately to ignore widely reported statistics in favour of faith in their imaginary friend can kill you”.
There are a large and growing number of people who thought they were immune to Covid-19 virus because of jesus and also because it was all a hoax by the New World Order anyway.
Who are now permanently disabled or dead because of…the Covid-19 virus.
Some of these people were denying the existence of the virus as they spent their last minutes alive.
Even at this late date in the pandemic, I run into people on the internet, who say, “If I get it, I get it”. No.
That is more or less a choice. If you can last a few more months, you can get the vaccines that are now out. And then, it is, “I won’t get it.”
Maybe its just me, but I fail to see how wilfully ignoring something can be called ignorance of something.
QFT.
The number of people I know personally that have gotten the virus is a lot and growing every day. This is a very dangerous virus.
The main risk isn’t death, it is being permanently disabled, i.e. long haulers of one sort or another.
One is a long hauler now for 9 months.
One is learning to walk again. With prosthetics. She lost parts of her lower limbs to Covid-19 blood clotting.
Another has lung damage from a ventilator, and a new cardiac pacemaker due to Covid-19 heart damage.
A few are just dead.
My nephew wanted to visit for Christmas, I said no. I do miss him, but my parents are both old and frail and his girlfriend works as a hospital nurse, so he could easily bring us Covid.
And sure enough, his girlfriend got Covid just a week after I said no to his visit. He himself did not get it -- a bit unusual since they live together in one household -- but he was for two weeks in quarantine anyway, so he could not (legally) visit anyway, even if I had allowed it.
I am not aware of anyone whom I know to die or even have a serious case, but the six degrees of separation surely do apply here and if I searched hard enough, I would surely find someone within my country who died and was reasonably closely connected to some acquaintance of mine.
In this example, yes… so far.
But in general? Obviously, no, even if one adds the conditional “and posts ‘I am still alive’” — again, that pesky so far.
There are millions or tens of millions of people who believe magic will protect them from the Covid-19 virus.
Jesus and magic don’t work in the real world.
Ironically, in this day and age, there is a good chance her mom lost her leg due to…the Covid-19 virus. Amputation of limbs, particularly the lower limbs, is a known outcome of Covid-19 infection and the blood clotting it can cause.
The protection of jesus didn’t work so well for her mom.
It sounds like US isolationism when it comes to war has spread to disease. People believed the US was so far and safe from other countries that Sept. 2001 shocked them many times worse than how the UK or Spain reacted to bombings. Those two had experienced it within their lifetimes.
Now the US is or has been so far removed from diseases for decades (since polio, anyway) that they assume the US is immune. And just like 2001, it’s not until it hits them directly and personally that they start to pay attention.
Today we learned that a co-worker of the Partner died. These people work in the ER because they are dedicated to helping people. Watching people die, over and over and over again due to basic non-acceptance of facts, is truly devastating to them. They just can’t take it anymore. Co-workers worried about this person… but is there any mental care available? No. There is not. These people are expected to just keep going to work, day after day after day after day… You guys. Please, listen to me. WEAR A FREAKING MASK. STAY HOME. Do NOT go ANYWHERE. Don’t travel, don’t go visiting, don’t do any of that. STAY HOME. Once you have your vaccination and are considered immune, well then OK great. Do what you like. But for whatever’s sake… PLEASE. Do NOT fill up the ER with yourself. They already have plenty of work, thank you very much, and really do NOT want to meet you personally. It is literally killing them.
Do not go to the ER For an avoidable reason. Had to go in about three months ago due to intestinal bleeding. Lucky there was a bed open.
Another ignorant person:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-27/alert-for-perth-hotel-quarantine-escapee-not-issued-for-hours/13016230
These are the same people who think “were you there?” is a good argument against evolution. Oblivious, naturally, to the irony that they did not see Adam and Eve depart the Garden of Eden, nor did they witness the resurrection of Jesus.
@ Matt G, but of course these simpletons believe that they can read a first person account of these events. Reading evolutionary history through fossil and genetic study is way too deep for them.
Talking about ignorance of statistics, Mr Singham: tell me the number of families celebrating Thanksgiving without restrictions and having no one getting the Wuhan?
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Answer: many thousands but they will not be publicized in the news for it goes against the Progressive/Socialist narrative.
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Question: how many families celebrate Thanksgiving WITH great restrictions and still having at least 1 person getting the Wuhan?
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Answer: many thousands but they will not be publicized in the news for it goes against the Progressive/Socialist narrative.
I don’t think friedfish2718 understands probability very well. Precautions -- wearing masks when out of your house, keeping your distance from people, frequent hand washing, and minimising trips out of your house -- reduce the chance of transmission in either direction by at least two orders of magnitude. That is, below 1% compared to not taking those precautions.
Also, “the Wuhan”? Petty idiot.
Or as it’s also known, reality.
That is totally the wrong question.
.1. How many people in 2019 got the Covid-19 virus in the USA, how many were permanently disabled, and how many died from it?
It is zero, zero, and zero.
.2. How many people in 2020 got the Covid-19 virus in the USA, how many were permanently disabled, and how many died from it?
19 million cases, 1-2 million permanently disabled, and 340,000 dead.
Quite a difference.
That there is a pandemic worldwide isn’t a Progressive/Socialist narrative. It’s a fact.
And here is another fact. You are a delusional idiot and a plague rat.
Gibberish.
Here is a better question.
My friend drove from Michigan to Florida for Thanksgiving to see relatives.
She came down with the Covid-19 virus, had blood clotting problems, lost parts of both legs to amputations, and now, in her 60’s, is learning to walk again with prosthetics.
Quesion: How is this a “Progressive/Socialist narrative?
Answer: It’s not. It was a bad decision, bad luck, and if the clotting had been worse, she would have died. It is a good example of what not to do.
If she had waited 3 months for the vaccines, this wouldn’t have happened.
How many people fail to wear a seat belt and survive auto accidents?
How many people wear seat belts and still die in auto accidents?
Wake up sheeple!
@19- If we patiently explained what’s wrong with your statements, you still wouldn’t understand.
Matt, DrVanNostrand is almost certainly being droll.
Sorry, should’ve used a sarcasm tag. I thought I chose an example so stupid, it couldn’t possibly be confused for sincere, but you know, the internet…
I apologize. Your name is not familiar to me.
A former coworker (and Harvard graduate…) once told me he stopped wearing a bicycle helmet because someone told him pedestrians are more likely to be hit by a car than cyclists are. It’s amazing what people can convince themselves of when they don’t want to do something.
Matt G: As a cyclist, I was quite amused by the cyclist riding by herself the wrong way down a busy street, no helmet, dark clothes, clueless. But by god, she had a mask on!