Rebecca Watson’s video hit me hard — I was there for almost all of the events she talked about. I never did enough. So I had to express myself a little bit.
A lot of folks were conned by those supposed thought leaders, but PZ, you were one of the first ones to jump off the ship as soon as you saw the cruelty unmasked. You even tossed a “grenade” at Michael Shermer as you went over the railing.
It’s good to see this “confessional” video though, because it proves your honesty and the shame you (and many of us in the readership) rightly feel by any association with that cabal, which is a true sign that you deserve trust. And good job Rebecca Watson. Watched her video a short while ago and naturally had to check out Pharyngula to see what you had to say about it.
Here’s a recent post from Digby’s blog (H/T Tom Sullivan & Anand Giridharadas) that provides a good explanation of what they call The Epstein Class: https://digbysblog.net/?s=epstein+class
chrislawsonsays
We all have different personalities, obviously, but I don’t feel shame about Dawkins, Shermer, Krauss, etc., because I had no influence on them or their decisions. The emotion I feel is white-hot fury that these people ended up thoroughly betraying the values they pretended to represent.
A lot of folks were conned by those supposed thought leaders, but PZ, you were one of the first ones to jump off the ship as soon as you saw the cruelty unmasked. You even tossed a “grenade” at Michael Shermer as you went over the railing.
It’s good to see this “confessional” video though, because it proves your honesty and the shame you (and many of us in the readership) rightly feel by any association with that cabal, which is a true sign that you deserve trust. And good job Rebecca Watson. Watched her video a short while ago and naturally had to check out Pharyngula to see what you had to say about it.
Here’s a recent post from Digby’s blog (H/T Tom Sullivan & Anand Giridharadas) that provides a good explanation of what they call The Epstein Class:
https://digbysblog.net/?s=epstein+class
We all have different personalities, obviously, but I don’t feel shame about Dawkins, Shermer, Krauss, etc., because I had no influence on them or their decisions. The emotion I feel is white-hot fury that these people ended up thoroughly betraying the values they pretended to represent.