Trump is letting it all hang out. His recent comments are all about eugenics and race and heritable criminality.
When you look at the things that she proposes,Trump, speaking of Vice President Harris, told far-right pundit Hugh Hewitt Monday morning,they’re so far off she has no clue. How about allowing people to come to an open border? 13,000 of which were murderers, many of them, murdered far more than one person, and they are now happily living in the United States you know now, a murderer.
I believe this. It’s in their genes, and we got a lot of bad genes in our country right now,Trump alleged.
None of that is true. The 13,000 convicted criminals are the sum total of all immigrants over the last 40 years; immigrants convicted of a serious crime aren’t happily living in the US, they are in jail or living as felons; immigrants have a lower rate of criminality than life-long US residents; and it has absolutely nothing to do with “genes.” Trump has no idea what genes are, he just wants to blame the ancestry or race of all immigrants somehow, as if they’re carrying some heritable taint.
Don’t berate me with technical details about what constitutes a literal Nazi, he’s a fucking Nazi in spirit and deed.
” Trump,” “told far-right pundit Hugh Hewitt”
Now there is a beautiful combination. Hewitt is the biggest POS at WaPo.
I remember Trump giving a speech a few years ago to a mostly white crowd in the Midwest. He told them they all had “good genes,” and that “they knew what he was talking about.”
Well, if anyone knows something about “heritable criminality” it would be Trump. His father was a racist, con man, much like Trump. However, I don’t think that’s “heritable” in the sense of genes, but lessons taught to him by his dad. His grandfather may have had some unsavory aspects to his occupations as well…something about a restaurant on Washington Street in Seattle when it was known as “The Line” replete with saloons, casinos, and brothels.
Incidentally I just read that grandfather Trump died suddenly of what was first identified as pneumonia but later recognized as an early case of the 1918-1920 Flu Epidemic.
He got it honest. Dear old dad was arrested at a Klan rally after all.
And the republican in the video treats it like it’s just politics. Eugenics is not a political stance. It’s a lie shared by sociopaths. This isn’t a difficult concept to figure out and that’s why the GOP has been so focused on gerrymandering and stuffing the court system. It’s hard to win a democratic election with bad ideas that have been losing for a century.
It used to be the case that Trump and his senior followers would say things that imitated parts of Hitler rhetoric. We are well past this now, and if Hitler was reborn he would now be trying to catch up woth Trump’s rhe
sorry “rhetoric”
If you’re not scared (and angry), you’re not paying attention.
Can it happen here? It looks like it’s happening right now to me.
Maybe this would be a good time to educate Latinos who are voting for Trump what Trump thinks about their genes?
What percentage of Trump supporters actually agree with this shit?
What percentage are delusional and are ignoring the racist/fascist shit because they simply need to support their ‘team’?
What percentage would kill their own mother for a tax cut?
Are there any other categories in the Republican world?
Now now PZ, you shouldn’t make such outlandish claims, you’ll scare the precious moderates if you cry wolf like that. There is no reason to think that they are planning anything Nazi-ish like camps, genocide, or unmarked graves. I think everyone needs to take a nice warm bath, have a cup of tea, and remember that we have the Supreme Court to protect us from the bad things Trump might do!
We all need to keep in mind that, if we act like silly womenfolk and engage in rhetoric like calling fascists Nazis, then centrists will have no choice but to vote for the Nazis. Trump will win then, and it will be all our fault! So, we must be very, very quiet about the things Trump and his lackeys have said they’ll do, so that we’ll be seen as the voice of sweet reason.
There are times when the emotionally satisfying thing isn’t the politically savvy thing, don’tcha know.
Exactly.
For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basket_of_deplorables
@3: <sarcasm> You forgot the draft-dodging as a heritable (or at least nurtured!) characteristic — grandpa was a draft dodger in Germany. </sarcasm>
More to the point, the various fair-housing complaints of racial discrimination from when Teh [Somewhat Young] Donald was managing a number of family-owned apartment complexes aren’t just public record — they resulted in government action. A lawsuit by the DOJ. By the Nixon Administration, not some bunch of soft-hearted liberals.
Trump is “..a fucking Nazi in spirit and deed.” TRUTH.
No doubt about it all. He’s also a traitor, a coward, corrupt as fuck, a bully, a disgusting excuse for a human being and on the verge of becoming the President of the United States of America once again.
How the fuck can this election possibly be this close Americans, how the fuck can this evil incompetent, senile, toxic, deplorable excuse fro a person be a major party candidate for POTUS and not long since languishing behind bars?
@2. christoph : “I remember Trump giving a speech a few years ago to a mostly white crowd in the Midwest. He told them they all had “good genes,” and that “they knew what he was talking about.”
Sure enough they did . Everybody. (well, okay almost everybody becoz always some few exceptional exceptions) did and does.
Also sure enough, it got sod all media coverage and wasn’t automatically used to disqualify him permenantly from holding any political office at all like it should have done.
@ John Morales, #13
Precisely. We must not use language that in any way suggests that MAGA Americans and their leaders possess any ill intent, nor should we discuss the intent that those same MAGA American leaders have publicly stated in terms of realistic expectations or historical context. Just because they sometimes say almost exactly the same things the Nazis said, express attitudes suspiciously similar to those of Nazis, or craft policy proposals that seem like they could have come from the Fuhrer’s desk, doesn’t mean that we should ever point such things out.
We must be innocent all that might offend the sensibilities of the swing voter. It matters not what comforting lies we tell them or ourselves. It costs us nothing not to say or otherwise seriously consider these things (save for any possibility of preparing for them), but we might suffer politically if we do say them.
This way, when the unpleasantness is over, the survivors can wring their hands and say “Oh, who could have predicted such things?” Thus, they can absolve themselves of all responsibility, becoming as clean and pure as a freshly whitewashed fence.
As for the murdered, well, it’s not like they can vote, so fuck ‘em.
vucodlak, I do take you seriously — what you sometimes claim, not-so-much.
“There are times when the emotionally satisfying thing isn’t the politically savvy thing, don’tcha know.” is the claim at hand; a corollary is that it may be that sometimes the emotionally satisfying thing is indeed the politically savvy thing to do.
You’ve just rhetorically insinuated nonsensical claims about language and so forth that are in no way related to the actual claim you attempt to sarcastically dismiss.
Specifically, consider the case that the politically savvy thing to do in some particular situation is one of the things you claim must never be done.
In your bastardised version, it becomes a paradox.
In the original sense, it does not.
(Oh, and contingent claims are not universal claims, so there would in any case not be a ‘must’, but a ‘should in certain circumstances’)
In other nazi news https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-06-16/ty-article/former-israeli-mk-quotes-hitler-while-discussing-gaza-war/00000190-224f-d231-a1b2-e65f76fe0000
The real fun was when I looked up “trump bad genes” to get other citations to note, most of the major media pointed out but minced a bit about why it was bad.
Except Fox News. Fox’s lead headline was that Trump was “Sounding the Alarm”.
Now, now, it’s only Nazism if it comes from the Berlin region of Germany; Otherwise it’s just sparkling fascism!
Makes one wonder about certain combos of german and scottish genes causing such an immoral condition.
@13 John Morales: Hillary Clinton made a comment that not all Trump supporters were bigots, some had legitimate grievances…and to this day she is faulted for noticing that some were. There might be a lesson in that. But is it to try moderating the truth even more, or not to bother because people who despise you will never care?
John Morales #13
No, your example is more a case of the most honest thing not being the politically savvy thing.
Walter, well… there are times when the emotionally satisfying thing is the most honest thing and the politically savvy thing, don’tcha know.
Again: the point is that saying that “sometimes X” is not the same as saying “always X”.
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Ridiculous loony claims about doomishness (what’s the USAnian version? … ah yes, chicken little) are as mockable whether by pro-Trumpers or by anti-Trumpers, as is the ridiculous whinging about political correctness.
Be aware this began in another thread, where a commenter called out the feverish nature of the doomishness exhibited at the prospect of Trump getting another term. Instant authoritarian autocracy of the most doomish kind, it will be. Just like that! <snaps fingers>
(Doom! O woe is us!)