No wonder Tucker Carlson fell for it — UFOs are like the Tardis.
The attorney told DailyMail.com that one alleged recovery, recounted to him by a supposed crash retrieval program insider, involved a 30ft saucer partially embedded in the earth, with some fantastical properties.
‘They tried to hook a bulldozer to it to pull it out. And it pulled out a shape like a pie slice, almost like it was part of the way it was constructed,’ Sheehan said.
‘When it came loose a couple feet, they stopped immediately. They didn’t want to destroy the integrity of the machine.
‘They had a guy go into it. He got in there, and it was as big as a football stadium. It was freaking him out and started making him feel nauseous, he was so disoriented because it was so gigantic inside.
‘It was the size of a football stadium, while the outside was only about 30 feet in diameter.’
Sheehan said that space was not the only warped dimension around the craft.
‘He staggered back out after being in there a couple of minutes, and outside it was four hours later,’ he said. ‘There was all kinds of time distortion and space distortion.’
Oh yeah. I’m convinced. It was in the Daily Mail!
So we have aliens possessed of incredibly advanced science and technology who can’t have a crashed spaceship beamed out of there or at least have it hauled back for repair by a space-wrecker?
I’m thinking of Pogo’s treehouse or Snoopy’s doghouse.
And it was full of Zanti misfits.
I’m actually aware of one such structure along the Nordic coastline, although I can’t recall which country it is in.
Saucer shaped edifice, quite large inside, as it needed to be for its purpose. It was an old Nazi constructed coastal defense bunker.
But, it’s interesting that the chap relating such a structure finds football stadiums disorienting. How decidedly odd! Or perhaps, when one takes the time loss into account, a more natural explanation and greater miracle that he got out at all – bad air in a confined, sealed subterranean space. Something cavers are quite familiar with.
Naw, who am I kidding? It’s DailyFail, who are utterly devoted to living up to that nickname.
Or perhaps, it’s Doctor Huh’s TURDIS. And the Common Whitetail Skimmer dragonfly is really a space satellite that got lost.
https://www.insectidentification.org/insect-description.php?identification=Common-Whitetail-Skimmer
Although, the dark patches on the wings confused me as to what environment they’d be more suited for, one conveniently landed on a white birch tree and resolved that question instantly.
Wzrd1.
It was a rod whose tardis camouflage took the shape of an insect!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_(optical_phenomenon)#
Something is out there -by ‘out there’ I do of course mean ‘in their’ [heads of grifters and their dupes].
Interesting that with the decreasing Q base we have an increase in UFO bullshit. The cynic in me thinks that some in the ‘news’ media want to distract us from more pressing concerns.
Huh, knew of the phenomenon, never knew it had a name. Laughably, I figured it was flying insects on my own, without even needing a net.
Although, captures of a dragonfly flying on surveillance cameras is super cool.
Yeah, makes sense though. The Q base, having finally lost faith in their “government cleared source” who isn’t even a US citizen, then jump to someone that is and holds a clearance and “has the answer” that’s clearly bullshit.
Falls apart due to compartmented programs, he’d never know of the other compartments that he claims to know about. Although, there are somewhat similar teams that do exist that recover adversary technology that crashes or otherwise strays where a team can grab it and teams to recover our own tech when it strays – especially novel experimental bleeding edge crap.
I especially love the Roswell crowd, as the entire incident has been declassified and it was merely a spy balloon that captured fallout samples from the upper atmosphere after Soviet nuke tests were conducted. And that a few samples of the skin of the payload stayed in private hands, clearly being nothing more exotic than honeycomb aluminum (introduced in 1956).
The current crop now claiming that every nation on earth has UFO samples from crashes in their countries, yet all somehow get along well enough to keep the souper seekrit of the fact that these space aliens are the most inept fliers in the history of unintelligent flight. Good Lord, we’re being invaded by Launchpad McQuack! Definitely a step below Mork from Ork.
Saw plenty of UFO’s over the years. Most get identified, a few remain “you didn’t see that”, which makes them Program projects that don’t exist to those not working on the things.
Kind of along the lines of, nobody knows how many A-12 and SR-71 prototypes crashed, burned and got buried at Groom Lake, largely because they got classified “who gives a fuck”.
Obligatory: “It’s bigger on the inside!”
It’d be cool if we did find some alien shit, I mean totally wild, right? But it’d also throw the world into some fuckin’ chaos, because people tend to be kinda stupid and panicky and violent.
Humanity isn’t ready for contact.
I’ve seen (in the company of a friend) one UFO which defied explanation. The most amusing aspect was the responses of people I told about it. They fell into three categories;
(1) Jokey dismissal
(2) The usual “it was a balloon, helicopter, airplane, ball lightning, etc”, none of which explained what we saw.
(3) We were imagining it, or stoned or drunk. We weren’t any of those.
My own attitude is “I have no idea what that was”. A lot of people seem to have a hard time with that, for reasons that are beyond me.
I get the Medium Daily Digest email blast. Idiot Astronomer Avi Loeb has another article about extraterrestrials out.
Well, the article is about an identified non-flying object.
(an INO, not an UFO)
I tend to disagree. Of course, it depends on the exact circumstances, but given the most likely scenarios are (a) detection from far far away and (a long long way behind, b) a planned introduction by a far more advanced civilization that’s been through the whole process before, the odds are good that any freaking out will be kept to a minimum.
In the case of (a) there’ll be lots of shrugs and “that’s interesting” before going back to our regular lives Religious leaders will be fielding a lot of questions they will have to (and will) come up with answers for.
In the case of (b) the largest panic will likely be in the financial markets as investors are thrust into a world where it’s instantly impossible to assess the value of any of the world’s corporations anymore, at least not until any new technology made available to us is understood, but I’m sure the aliens would be prepared for that to happen and mitigate the impact with reassurances and material aid.
Oh, and if the aliens are hostile, which seems unlikely for a number of reasons, then we’re completely screwed anyway, so there’s no point in panicking.
If it ever happens, the reality of first contact is almost certainly going to be far more mundane than anyone expects it to be. Still would be wild, though. On that we agree.
Hard to say who is more disappointed with Carlson’s descent into irrelevance — the MAGA crowd or the Russians. Either way, they have lost their favorite propagandist.
Looks like Sam Seder and the rest of The Majority Report were right when they said that Carlson was eminently replaceable at Fox News, just like Bill O’Reilly before him. It was the platform that gave him his notoriety, not anything he said or did himself. They’ll find a replacement soon enough, unfortunately.
tacitus @ 11, given a few things, planned introduction or accidental introduction is beyond unlikely.
First, given the absurd amounts of energy required for timely interstellar travel, the chances that they’d want to trade with us are essentially absurd, they’d likely be able to make up whatever they want at an atomic level upward, from matter gathered during interstellar travel and basic recycling of matter.
Second, they’d recognize market collapses as bad, both for relations and survival of a contacted species and avoid such until the species could react in a less self-destructive manner.
Third, religious leaders would largely brand them devils and turn their followers against them with likely kill on sight, even with suicide attack orders. They’d also have enough sense to realize that and simply stay the hell away.
@12, the Russians are long accustomed to burning through resources and they simply move on. The MAGA crowd, not so much, but they’ll find a new shiny. Likely, soon after Trump ends up convicted and sentenced. Given the high level of national interest, from a standpoint of survival, the case will proceed and he’ll lose. Otherwise, the entire national security apparatus would simply be in danger of utter collapse.
Spot on in the close. As social insects well comprehend, drones are utterly disposable.
Isn’t this what happened to Sam Harris, too?
It does seem that while belief in UFOs has been declining, the remaining adepts have been drifting further and further into weirdness territory, with some firmly staking claim to parcels of insanity land.
Now we have another dolt saying the US has recovered alien crafts… one of which is supposed to have crashed in Northern Italy in the 30s, seized by Mussolini’s jackbooted thugs, then impounded by the US after the Italy campaign in 44-45.
And obviously no one took a decent picture of it in its almost hundred years of being there.
Maybe it’s just me getting older, but I’d say general ignorance is really getting out of hand here.
@6 Wzrd1
Kind of along the lines of, nobody knows how many A-12 and SR-71 prototypes crashed, burned and got buried at Groom Lake, largely because they got classified “who gives a fuck”.
During the first Gulf War, I went for a walk one evening, as I usually did. We did not live very far from a SAC base and I was used to seeing and hearing military jets of many kinds (B-52, F101, F106, etc.) since childhood. That particular evening I heard a jet going overhead, the roar indicating it had just taken off and was climbing. No lights and the oddest sounding engines I had ever heard. Hard to describe but it was definitely not a normal jet sound. Several years later I discovered that they had flown SR-71s out of that base for recon missions to the Gulf. I can imagine that if someone heard that sound in a remote area circa 1960 and saw no lights, they might think it was extraterrestrial.
The only artifacts recovered were a 15-foot long striped scarf and a battered trilby.
For about 3 days. Then public attention would switch back to sport, which celebrities are screwing which other celebrities, and Prince Harry.
Rob Grigjanis@8,
My reponse would be: eyewitness reports are not reliable so, absent evidence of the kind that can be examined and re-examined at leisure and with the appropriate technical tools and facilities, there’s nothing to explain. Which doesn’t mean you didn’t see an alien spaceship/supernatural being/glitch in the simulation.
KG @18: Ah, I can add category (4) Incurious dismissal.
Thanks!
There is probably a load of optical and electric phenomena that remains to be explained.
I have heard the phrase “earth lights” used by people who do not want to use the UFO term as it has been so connected with flying saucer BS.
Rob Grigjanis@19,
Are you claiming to be a special kind of eyewitness whose reports are> reliable?
Rob Grigjanis@19,
BTW, what other kind of response than the (now four) you’ve listed would you expect? Or consider appropriate?
KG @21: I’m not claiming anything of the sort. I’m categorizing responses. I imagine they would be the same even if I had lied about what I saw.
To be clear; I gave up expecting people to simply accept what we saw pretty quickly. It might have been even quicker (it would be instant now), but we were in our mid-twenties, so perhaps a bit naive.
Depending on what you reported seeing (you haven’t specified), and given the unreliability of eyewitness testimony, it might have been irrational for them to do so.
Re: Rob Grigjanis no. 8 and 19.
You saw something that, for you and your friend, could not be explained by you and your friend. Well the world is full of things that are seen, heard etc., that cannot be explained easily and likely never will because of lack of information about what was seen etc.
Eyewitness testimony of this sort of thing is unreliable. I could go into how people mistake Venus for a UFO and or make completely inaccurate discriptions of the behavior etc., of the alleged UFO’s. I too have seen a UFO which to this day I cannot explain. It was a weirdly moving point of light. I have no idea what it was and I likely always will. I am also convinced that my memory of this event may not be completely accurate.
Given the long history of UFO sightings and how people misinterprete what they see just why would you expect people to simply accept what you said you saw? I am also not sure why you and your friend are so confident that it wasn’t something prosaic and your statement “It defied explaination” is a bit much. What is probably more likely is that there was a lack of sufficent information to provide an explaination.
KG @24: Yes, of course it might be.
pacal @25:
Gosh, thanks for the update!
Oh, I’m sure you could.
Same here!
I don’t.
Where did you get that idea? As I said, I don’t know what it was. Period.
My friend consulted her contacts in the Astronomical Society, and I’ve looked for accounts of similar observations. Yeah, it defies explanation. That doesn’t mean there isn’t one.
You seem to be reading something I didn’t write. When I wrote ‘UFO’ did you think I meant ‘spaceship’?
RE: 27
You said in No. 8 “(2) The usual “it was a balloon, helicopter, airplane, ball lightning, etc”, none of which explained what we saw.”
And that is why I said “I am also not sure why you and your friend are so confident that it wasn’t something prosaic”
And the reason why I mentioned Venus is because people have indeed mistaken Venus for a spaceship making hard turns ansd all sorts of other nonsense.
So I doubt it defies explanation. Faulty memory etc., so in my opinion it could easily be one of the things you dismissed. And since you haven’t told us just what you thought you saw there is no reason to accept that itr defies explanation.
I don’t care a whit about your acceptance or your opinion.