It’s all hilarious until it isn’t


The central character on the internet for the last few days has been Andrew Tate, macho posturing kickboxer and sleaze merchant, previously banned on Twitter but allowed back on by Elon Musk (of course). He was recently mocked by, of all persons, Greta Thunberg, who teased his “small-dick energy”, followed by Tate making a video bragging about all his expensive cars, thereby proving her point. This was quickly followed by the Romanian police busting in and arresting Tate, purportedly tipped off by the box for a local pizza delivery site letting them know where he was (I don’t really believe this — the police knew where he was, and already had a case against him.)

Funny stuff. Bragging idiot gets his comeuppance, perfect Twitter fodder, right?

Until you read what the Romanian police charged him with.

Following the communique no. 1 of 12.04.2022 and the interest shown by media representatives, the Information and Public Relations Office within the Organized Crime and Terrorism Investigation Directorate is empowered to bring the following to public attention:

On 29.12.2022, the prosecutors of the Directorate for the Investigation of Organized Crime and Terrorism – Central Structure together with police officers from the Bucharest Organized Crime Brigade implemented 5 home search warrants in a case in which investigations under the aspect of committing the crimes of constituting an organized criminal group, human trafficking and rape.
In the case it was noted that, at the beginning of 2021, 4 suspects (two British citizens and two Romanian citizens) constituted a criminal group organized in order to commit crimes on the territory of Romania, but also of other countries, such as the United States of America and Great Britain, of the crime of human trafficking.
Victims were recruited by British citizens by misrepresenting their intention to enter into a marriage/cohabitation relationship and the existence of genuine feelings of love (the loverboy method). They were later transported and housed in buildings in Ilfov county where, by exercising acts of physical violence and mental coercion (through intimidation, constant surveillance, control and invoking alleged debts), they were sexually exploited by group members by forcing them to perform demonstrations pornographic for the purpose of producing and disseminating through social media platforms material having such a character and by submitting to the execution of a forced labor,
So far, 6 injured persons have been identified who were sexually exploited by the organized criminal group.
With regard to the crime of rape, it was noted that, in March 2022, an injured person was forced, on two different occasions, by a suspect through the exercise of physical violence and psychological pressure to have sexual relations.
At the headquarters of the Directorate for the Investigation of Organized Crime and Terrorism – Central Structure, 4 people who are reasonably suspected of being involved in criminal activity were taken for questioning. Following the hearings, the prosecutors of the Directorate for the Investigation of Organized Crime and Terrorism – Central Structure ordered the 4 persons to be detained for a period of 24 hours.
The activities were also attended by police officers from the Ilfov Organized Crime Service and the Service for Combating Human Trafficking, as well as gendarmes from the Special Intervention Brigade of the Gendarmerie.
We make it clear that during the entire criminal process, the investigated persons benefit from the procedural rights and guarantees provided by the Code of Criminal Procedure, as well as the presumption of innocence.

[translated from the original Romanian]

Jesus fucking christ. Not funny at all. Tate and his brother were luring women into their grasp, imprisoning them, using them to make internet pornography, and raping them. And people have been idolizing him? If convicted, I hope they spend many years in a Romanian prison; if not convicted, please let this be the end of Tate’s reputation as a man to emulate. He’s a cowardly abuser of women and a rapist.

Comments

  1. Pike Wake Turbulence says

    Quite a few of us knew about Tate and all of his public/not so public misogyny. I don’t know if Thunberg had the whole picture before the twitter exchange, but there was some media coverage in Sweden about Tate’s activities, including trafficking allegations.

  2. says

    I’d love to think that getting burned by Greta and the embarrassing video he released in response would be enough to end his career (if he doesn’t spend most of the rest of his life in prison) as he’s been completely exposed, but then I remember how many fans the Hamberdler and Musk still have no matter how brazen their lack of intelligence and their complete buffoonery.

  3. wzrd1 says

    It’s been a fascinating phenomenon that’s been developing, where criminals are cognizant of the incredible expense and herculean efforts that prosecutors have to expend in order to convict criminals and in response, the criminals are ever so considerate of that expense and film their crimes and secure said evidence on the internet.

  4. microraptor says

    I’ve never heard of this guy until now, but prison sounds like the appropriate place for him.

  5. Reginald Selkirk says

    He was recently mocked by, of all persons, Greta Thunberg, who teased his “small-dick energy”, followed by Tate …

    To be clear, Tate initiated the exchange, and that was Thunberg’s comeback.

  6. Akira MacKenzie says

    Until you read what the Romanian police charged him with.

    Aw what the hell, I”LL LAUGH ANYWAY! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

  7. Reginald Selkirk says

    Did Andrew Tate’s Video of a Jerry’s Pizza Box Lead to His Arrest?

    Ramona Bolla, a spokesperson from Romania’s anti-organized crime agency, DIICOT, said that the rumor was “funny,” but was not true, according to The Associated Press (AP).
    The AP also noted that, earlier in the same week, Tate had “posted a video on Twitter of a mountainous region of Romania, the Eastern European country where he is reported to have lived for the last five years.” In other words, he had already indicated on his public social media presence that he was in the country.

  8. says

    Hope he likes his stay in prison because it’s going to be a looooooong one once he and his cohorts are convicted and sentenced by the Romanian Court of Law.

  9. John Morales says

    fishy, but if Musk had not reinstated him, Tate could not have Twittered his way to being captured.

  10. StevoR says

    @ 5 microraptor : Yep. Apparently, he is inexplicably (?) popular online and the worst extreme of reichwing misogynist scum.

    According to his wikipage :

    Tate moved from the United Kingdom to Romania in 2017,[55] claiming “40 percent” of the reason for his move was his belief that Romania would be less likely to investigate sexual assault cases..

    Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Tate

    Good thing he was proven wrong there.

  11. gijoel says

    And the shitheads are falling over themselves to defend him.

    I wonder how many of them consider homosexuals and drag queens to be groomers. Trick question, it’s probably all of them.

  12. StevoR says

    @ ^ birgerjohansson :

    Good “God’s rottweiler” (unfair to the good dogs) has gone & won’t doany more harm. Bad he never faced justice for enabling so much child abuse and so much pain and misery. Petty but I don’t mind admitting ihope his death as painful and humiliating as possible and hope he knows he will be remembed with loathing and disgust. He was a disgraceful, evil excuse for a human being who made our world much worse by hisl ife in it.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-31/former-pope-benedict-xvi-dies-aged-95/101813620

    Can we arrest the rest of the child molesting scum before they go please? Thety wi be recasleld with digust

    Thanks for this news.

  13. tacitus says

    Pastor Greg Locke was one of Tate’s knee jerk defenders on Twitter, just because he “upset” a lefty. He really is a piece of shit, isn’t he?

  14. pgator says

    “small dick energy”

    This really needs to disappear from our lexicon.

    If Tate dropped his pants and was swinging a baseball bat, would it make him any better of a person?
    No. He’d still be a pile of garbage.

    How do we try to defend our trans allies by telling the world that what someone has in their pants is really none of our business and doesn’t define what kind of person they are … unless it’s a person like this that we WANT to insult, in which case we’re all free to speculate and make comments about others’ genitals and how it makes them more or less worthy as a person.

    Even with easily identifiable, horrible personality traits … when we REALLY want to say what a bad guy he is, we talk about his penis. What kind of message does that give to others? That the WORST thing you can be isn’t a misogynist, or racist, or homophobe … the absolute worst thing you can be is the owner of a small penis, so, don’t even try, you bottom of the bell curve folks.

    And let’s not get started on the way penis size has been overlapped with racism to make particular jabs at ethnic groups who are assumed to have smaller or larger average sizes.

    It’s really something we should do better with. Otherwise, we’re just inheriting the toxic playbook from people like this when we perpetuate the whole “you must be overcompensating for something” attitude.

    (And, no, I’m not defending this guy. F him. It has nothing to do with making him feel bad. I HOPE he feels bad. He deserves to feel bad. It’s about doing better for everyone else who is listening.)

  15. gijoel says

    @25 I beg to differ. Rebbecca Sonit’s FB post explains better than I ever could.

    Things to know about The Reply Heard Around the World and its amazing consequences.

    What the misogynist sent GT out of the blue was pretty much a dick pic with his language about having lots of big powerful cars and their “enormous emissions” a transparent proxy for said member. I think a lot of women recognized that.

    Her prompt nine-word reply recognized that, and a reader reminds me that there’s a very direct association between men’s refusal to get on board with environmental good conduct and machismo. See Scientific American screenshot from a link a reader sent. He was associating his manhood with his carbon emissions and cars in his hostile sneer of an opening salvo. Reminder: she was just minding her own business and trying to save the world. He was attacking her because she’s a 19-year-old woman and a climate activist.

    He was probably also hoping to target her with his crowd of haters, in a Gamergate-style campaign of harassment, but she is a much bigger deal with more followers. Feminists and climate people and others greatly enjoyed her owning him, and this did not turn out as he hoped, to say the least.

    Her tweet is already one of the top 10 tweets of all time in popularity and has been liked 3.1 million times and shared almost 600,000 directly, as well as indirectly in screenshots, posts on other media, and a whole heap of media coverage. You too can go like it at https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1608056944501178368 24

    She provoked his sorry ass to keep replying after she’d already burned him to a crisp with two short sentences delivered little more than an hour after his attack. Ten hours later he made a pathetic I Am So Grand (I Am So Insecure) reply in what looked like a parody of a slacker Playboy Lifestyle video, complete with cigar (sometimes a cigar is not just a cigar) and weird robe and a pizza. Shortly thereafter he and his brother were arrested for alleged sexual trafficking. (The story that the pizza box in the video tipped off the police he was in Romania is unsubstantiated.)

    The group in charge of trafficking in Europe is called, yes, for real, GRETA: the Group of Experts on Action against Trafficking in Human Beings (I think it’s an acronym in another language): “GRETA is responsible for monitoring the implementation of the Council of Europe Convention on Action against Trafficking in Human Beings by the Parties.”

    HadTate not increased his notoriety by tweeting at Greta news of his arrest for some pretty gruesome human trafficking, his arrest would not be major news. This tweet and arrest are likely what he’ll be known for forever. From Greta to GRETA in a day.

    To all the men who explained to me that Greta should not respond to harassment and we should not talk about it in public: you’re telling women to shut up and being a good ally to Andrew Tate and his ilk. Now you know it.

    Thank you Greta. And the link between patriarchy and fossil fuels continues to be obvious as hell. Meanwhile, 2022 continues to be a great year for the Fall of the Right Wing Dudes–Musk, Trump, Alex Jones, a whole lot of insurrectionists, &etc.

  16. says

    Thing is, Tate’s fans like him because of this kind of behaviour, not in spite of it.
    His whole persona is exactly this denigration and abuse of women. He brags about making money exploiting people. People throw money at him to learn the secrets of abuse and exploitation. This is going to make him more popular, and give him martyr status on top of it.

  17. cheerfulcharlie says

    It is going to be hard to drive those expensive cars sitting in prison. Could they be confiscated due to being bought with money obtained from trafficking young women and forcing them into porn? And did he properly pay his taxes?

  18. Alt-X says

    Never thought I’d be a bigger fan of Greta than I was hah. Well done. The tweet she made after his arrest “well, that’s what you get for not recycling the pizza box”was the equivalent of putting a boot up someone’s ass when they’re already down. Savage and I loved it, not going to lie.

  19. Silentbob says

    @ 25 pgator

    Oh FFS.

    I 110% guarantee you Thunberg doesn’t think genitals say anything about a person.

    Feminists didn’t invent the idea penises represent masculinity – idiots like Tate did. She’s mocking him and his misogyny.

  20. DanDare says

    @33 Silent Bob
    Yes. To sring a moron you have to do it using their language. Doing it by speaking in two levels by layering a more “look, intelligent people, I hit him in moron land” message is pretty cool.

  21. logicalcat says

    @16 StevoR

    Actually that wikipedia page was vandalized and his comments on why he moved to Romania was taken out of context. The context is that while rape is bad its nice living in a country where he doesn’t have to worry about false allegations because Romanian government have a higher standard of evidence.

    Of course if hes convicted of rape then retroactively it is in context and was probably dog whistling the whole time, but prior to this people against Tate didn’t have that prior knowledge and purposefully interpreted in a false manner.

    Now I gotta add this part because any time I correct people on this they accuse me of misogyny and being a simp for Tate. I don’t think this will happen in this thread but as a precaution, no, I dont like Tate and I think hes a sexist insecure dumbass who tricks and exploits young men into thinking they can be a success if they sign up to this online courses. Its fucked. And if the accusations are proven true then looks like hes an exploiter of women as well.

  22. logicalcat says

    @25

    Within leftist circles its all fair game when it comes to attacking perceived enemies including body shaming all with the convoluted mental gymnastics they can muster in defense of their behavior. They are hypocrites. Im no angel either as Ive done it too when particularly annoyed by some incel or redpiller calling them virgins and shit. At least I got the balls the admit it.

    At the end of the day Greta should have used something else to insult him but shes also a kid. Tate on the other hand is gown ass man and should act like it.

  23. logicalcat says

    @26

    Ah heres an example of the mental gymnastic justification for behavior that we ourselves once criticized the Right for. Lol no, no one is saying Greta should shut up. They are saying she shouldn’t have body shamed against an immutable characteristic that caused a lot of shame in people. Its splash damage. Remember when we cared about that? Maybe you weren’t around for those conversations but I assure you once upon a time people cared about not causing splash damage while improperly wielding sexist insults. And it was a sexist insult that Greta used. Lets not pretend it was not.

    At the end of the day I dont care that she said it because shes a child. I was dumb too at 19. Hell shes better than most 19 year olds really, but lets not pretend it is not what it is. It was sexist body shaming.

  24. jo1storm says

    @logicalcat

    Actually that wikipedia page was vandalized and his comments on why he moved to Romania was taken out of context. The context is that while rape is bad its nice living in a country where he doesn’t have to worry about false allegations because Romanian government have a higher standard of evidence.

    You really, really don’t want to go in that direction. Trust me. Because as chance would have it, I accidentally know the context because a coworker of mine is a fan of Tate. In short,that is false and context makes it clear. I’ll add it after the next quote.

    I dont like Tate and I think hes a sexist insecure dumbass who tricks and exploits young men into thinking they can be a success if they sign up to this online courses.

    Final piece of puzzle is: he is right-wing “money equals power and that is as it should be”, “western civilization is coming to an end with this wokeism so go east, where men are still men, women are still women and a man can enjoy his millions a lot more” sexist dumbass MRA grifter. And the dumb context is this: because he wants to enjoy driving his ultra expensive fast cars to their limits and wants to do it on public roads, if he did it in UK or some other “safe and sissyfied western society”, he’d have to pay huge fines and probably end up in jail for speeding and endangering the public. The jail time is important part. In his words, in Romania, he’s just give 1000, 20.000 or 50.000 Euros to a cop as a bribe and he would let him go and make it disappear.

    Same goes with “false allegations”. He wants to have sex with a lot of women, he thinks they belong to him because he is rich and it is just arguing about price, for the money he pays them he wants them to do every sick thing he can imagine and doesn’t want some poor nobody girl to accuse him of sexual abuse and get his riches. And again, cops and judges are much cheaper in Romania than in UK. Or so he, the piece of shit that he is, claims. So no, it is not “higher standard of evidence”, it is “easier to bribe”.

  25. Silentbob says

    @ 38 jo1storm

    Well said.
    Most of my comments are calling out people for saying stupid things. My new year’s resolution is to try to applaud people for saying worthwhile things.

    You are spot on, thanks for commenting.

  26. KG says

    I dont like Tate – logicalcat@35

    But it’s pretty clear you like “leftists” even less.

  27. InfraredEyes says

    @36, it’s past time to stop calling Greta Thunberg a “kid” or a “child”. She is a young woman, and a remarkably smart one.

  28. logicalcat says

    @40 KG

    This is stupid on the same level of conservatives who say you hate America when you criticize it when that is not the case. I am a leftist, I want leftists to be better and I think they can do better. That’s why I criticize. Andrew Tate however is pure fucking trash. I don’t think most leftists are pure fucking trash but I do think we on the left are allowing the trash among us to dictate the movement and bully us around.

    @41 InfraredEyes

    Fair enough she is a young woman.

  29. StevoR says

    @ ^ logicalcat : who exactly are the “trash” among the left and how are they dictating the (singular? Which?) movement (specifically? Is it?) and bullying us (who?) around in your view please?

    I want leftists to be better and I think they can do better.

    Agreed. I think we can always do some things better and its good to try to become ever better as a general priniciple. We’ll likely never attain any perfect Utopia but we can certainly get a lot closer to doing so if we think about what one might look like & keep striving to attain it rather than resigning ourselves to how things are..

    Of course, the problem comes in determining what is actually better and why.and who gets to determine that. But having the opinion “I think it would would be better if we did _____ because ________” is absolutely legit and a reasonable and a worthwhile thing to think, express and try to do in my view. (Too obvs?)

  30. John Morales says

    StevoR:

    But having the opinion “I think it would would be better if we did _____ because ________” is absolutely legit and a reasonable and a worthwhile thing to think, express and try to do in my view. (Too obvs?)

    Too simplistic.

    For a start, is it merely an opinion, shared as it may be, or is it a rule?

    I want leftists to be better and I think they can do better.

    Agreed.

    Wouldn’t someone do better to want all people to be better, rather than just a subset?

  31. KG says

    This is stupid on the same level of conservatives who say you hate America when you criticize it when that is not the case. I am a leftist

    You may think you are, but most of us can see that you’re not. Of course it’s legitimate to criticise leftists, but when the vast majority of your comments are attacking leftists for serious, trivial or imaginary faults, a mere assertion by you that you are a leftist really doesn’t convince.