Swan says access to the nuclear codes and other things have been taken out of Cheetolini’s hands. So they’re finally doing to him what the Soviets did to Krushchev – three years after it should have happened.
One more thing, a new nickname for him: Schmuck a l’Orange.
MichaelEsays
Well, he could join Parler, but that might not last as Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App store. We will see if they actually follow through with that.
While I have no source on it, I can definitely imagine that Google either has, or will follow suit.
Matt Gsays
More profiles in conservative courage.
gijoelsays
But what about FREEZE PEACH, CENSORSHIP, WOKE MEDIA, CANCEL CULTURE, ELEVENTY, $#/¥€!!!!!
oddiesays
Too little too late, but damn it felt good
Ridanasays
Don’t you have to give them your SSN on Parler? Given how closely he guards his taxes and the fact that even some die-hards are starting to turn on him after his kinda-concession vid (we’ll go on with or without Trump!”), I’d think he’d be very reluctant to do that. I suppose he could contact them directly and ask them to waive that to have his august self gracing their platform though.
Oh, I’m so impressed. Corporations silence the fascist when he’s powerless.
Not when he was lying. Not when he was stealing billions. Not when he was inciting violence. Not when he was spewing racism. Not when he was trying to overthrow the government.
Donald Trump, after being permanently suspended from Twitter under his personal account @theREALDonaldTrump, has tried to hijack the official presidential account @POTUS to tweet his grievances.
Twitter is quickly deleting the posts before they can be shared, but users briefly could see messages from Trump slamming Twitter for coordinating with Democrats and the radical left to silence the president [sic].
The social media platform had already said it will remove any new postings from Trump to @POTUS. If Trump attempts to make a new account, it will also be permanently suspended “at first detection,” according to Twitter’s rules.
whheydtsays
Twitter has also suspended the accounts of Michael Flynn and Sidney Powell.
hemidactylussays
@8- gijoel
The catblogger, ultimate arbiter of all things freeze peach, has given Trump’s social media suspensions his official blessing so all is well. Because anything impinging on speech must be scrutinized by him often with great verbosity. Only he can pull his hair trigger to ban commenters who raise his hypersensitive ire…ony. All other limits on expression are verboten.
@19 So it’s stored somewhere? I can’t help but think that the bans from FB and Twitter are the Techbros last act of loyalty – the technical equivalent of tying him to a chair and stuffing a hamberder in his face just to shut him up and stop incriminating himself.
Can we give Jack Dorsey a good old public humiliation for doing the right thing years too late? We don’t have to wound him or anything, just strip him naked and slather him in mint jelly or something.
John Moralessays
Ishikiri:
We don’t have to wound him or anything, just strip him naked and slather him in mint jelly or something.
Hm. I think some people would pay for that pleasure.
@Susan Montgomery: IIRC, back when there was the news about how Trump was refusing to save records in accordance with the law, whichever federal agency it is whose job it is to maintain the records said it was archiving his Twitter feed as it came out, and if their archives are good enough for legal purposes in other respects they are presumably good enough on Twitter as well.
(Also, as I recall, this had to be done because legally a Presidential Tweet has legal standing in a way that a congressional one does not — as I recall, if the President announces a policy over Twitter, it’s still official policy despite being announced over a non-traditional medium, because the important thing is that it’s the head of the Executive Branch saying it, whereas a Congress member has no such authority to make unilateral announcements of policy and so their social media has less legal importance.)
stroppysays
There’s a site aka memory hole. Haven’t really looked into it much, not sure what it’s up to or how extensive, etc. https://altgov2.org/about/
unclefrogysays
I think the key here is that they were fine with all the shit when he was making them money they could justify it by saying it was historical and important any any and all rationalizations that they could find when the bottom line was he was making them money.
now with his current status and the failed insurrection any further seditious incitement just might leave them with some liability for enabling the resulting violence which would cost them money. It is money they care about the most clearly and anything that threatens that is to be avoided. I see no high ideals demonstrated by this much needed action. Just like the recent resignations
rats leaving a sinking ship.
uncle frogy
chrislawsonsays
Intransitive@12–
Yeah, it’s an interesting thought experiment to consider whether those social media platforms would have suspended Trump’s accounts if the Capitol riot had been more successful. What it looks like to me is an opportunity to stand up to him once he’s lost most of his power and in a few days will have no official power ledt at all.
For anyone who hasn’t seen it, I strongly recommend Bertolucci’s 1970 political thriller The Conformist. Its devastating final scene is a great analogy for today’s media owners.
jaredcormiersays
@unclefrogy
Rats have spines….
jenorafeuersays
@John Morales
Hm. I think some people would pay for that pleasure.
Well, people are willing to pay to be the one who sets off the demolitions charges at one of Tromps old casinos in Atlantic City.
I think the timing of his ban is more that, now he is basically powerless, from their point of view. As soon as he was “safe” to be banned, they did.
captainjacksays
unclefrogy @ #26
The ship is made out of rats, and it’s coming apart.
vytautasjanaauskassays
Maybe twitter were hesitant to block him because the same people who wanted him banned are now outraged that one company has so much influence over someones ability to participate in public discourse?
unclefrogysays
@28
hahahahahahahahahaha!!!
harryblacksays
I’m already seeing liberal freeze peachers hand wring over ‘the implications’ of allowing big tech to silence voices.
As if they havent had a track record of silencing people speaking out against oppression for years. They wont be nice to us just because we were nice to them. They will just use the rope we give them to choke us.
At least this is one less outlet for instigation and we can maybe get to work on the conditions that created such a ready and willing base.
@35 While I’m loathe to give Big Business power over public discourse, the fact is that Trump is demonstrating a classic example of falsely shouting “FIRE” in a movie theater and that needs to be addressed.
Sometimes values will come in conflict and it’s impossible to be %100 consistent %100 of the time. Far too many people take that as an excuse to not have values at all.
@24 Thank you, Vicar. :)
ravensays
It isn’t that big a deal or shouldn’t be.
If PZ Myers can have his own website or even a whole website forum called Freethoughblogs, the White House could do the same thing.
I don’t have a Twitter account and almost never look at it, and still manage to read a few forums and post on a few.
I get that the White House website or Parler don’t have the readership numbers of Twitter but that shouldn’t be much of a problem.
If people want to read what Trump says, they can find those addresses in a few seconds.
That still leaves Trump with the entire vast right wingnut Media sphere including Fox NoNews, One America News, Newsmax, Breitbart, the Blaze, Stormfront, WSJ, Moonie Times, Epoch, New York Post etc.
christophsays
@ Susan Montgomery, # 35: I’ve always wanted to walk into a firehouse with a DVD and yell “MOVIE!”
axehandsays
Charlie Stross has referred to this insurrection as “the Chicken Coup”
Right wing crank cartoonist Ben Garrison also got dumped from Twitter. So it will be harder to see his cartoons of Trump as a sports car, superhero, giant wave etc.
whheydtsays
Re: captainjack @ #32…
There’s a political cartoon of ships deserting a giant (Trump) rat.
Frederic Bourgault-Christiesays
1984 is trending now on social media. Because conservatives are spending infinitely more time bemoaning a rich man losing a private platform he doesn’t own for speech that could actually get him jailed than condemning terrorists.
Of course, some of them were calling for us on the Left to be empathetic today.
Kevin Logan’s stream on the wailing and gnashing of teeth was great.
@Potus is a government address and is ALWAYS archived by the government itself, as are all public government accounts.
WhiteHatLurkersays
Interesting – I noted that this reminded me of a quote from Space Viking that I put in an old thread. Wednesday’s incident in your capitol building reminds even more of that book.
The quote I used earlier is from just after a scene where the antagonist’s mob has rushed the government centre, and overwhelmed the poorly armed and ill prepared police protecting it. The leader had come to power with elaborate suites of lies, and at the end is a delusional creature of his own lies.
Could be light reading for those you living through this time.
I wish your country and people all the best in exiting this darker period in your history.
garydargan says
He probably already does but I’m definitely not going there.
whheydt says
“I have no mouth and I must scream.”
kome says
Talk about shutting the door after the horse has run out.
Walter Solomon says
I’m sure Harlan Ellison would approve of this usage.
Intransitive says
Ring Of Fire: Aide Says Trump Lost It After His Insurrection Failed
Jonathan Swan: The Cabinet Is Acting As If Trump ‘Is Not The President’
Swan says access to the nuclear codes and other things have been taken out of Cheetolini’s hands. So they’re finally doing to him what the Soviets did to Krushchev – three years after it should have happened.
One more thing, a new nickname for him: Schmuck a l’Orange.
MichaelE says
Well, he could join Parler, but that might not last as Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App store. We will see if they actually follow through with that.
While I have no source on it, I can definitely imagine that Google either has, or will follow suit.
Matt G says
More profiles in conservative courage.
gijoel says
But what about FREEZE PEACH, CENSORSHIP, WOKE MEDIA, CANCEL CULTURE, ELEVENTY, $#/¥€!!!!!
oddie says
Too little too late, but damn it felt good
Ridana says
Don’t you have to give them your SSN on Parler? Given how closely he guards his taxes and the fact that even some die-hards are starting to turn on him after his kinda-concession vid (we’ll go on with or without Trump!”), I’d think he’d be very reluctant to do that. I suppose he could contact them directly and ask them to waive that to have his august self gracing their platform though.
GiantPanda says
Google has suspended Parler from the Play Store.
Intransitive says
Oh, I’m so impressed. Corporations silence the fascist when he’s powerless.
Not when he was lying. Not when he was stealing billions. Not when he was inciting violence. Not when he was spewing racism. Not when he was trying to overthrow the government.
blf says
@12 et al., Show of Hands — Company Town (video).
blf says
Follow-up to @12 et al., Apparently the traitor is attempting to hijack other twittering feeds, Swift and Bold (Celer et Audax) (video). From the Grauniad, We regret to report Trump is at it again on Twitter:
whheydt says
Twitter has also suspended the accounts of Michael Flynn and Sidney Powell.
hemidactylus says
@8- gijoel
The catblogger, ultimate arbiter of all things freeze peach, has given Trump’s social media suspensions his official blessing so all is well. Because anything impinging on speech must be scrutinized by him often with great verbosity. Only he can pull his hair trigger to ban commenters who raise his hypersensitive ire…ony. All other limits on expression are verboten.
Susan Montgomery says
I just hope they aren’t planning to delete 5 years worth of evidence…
ANB says
Matt G: pardon the correction
More profiles in “conservative” “courage.”
John Morales says
They can’t, Susan. All they can do is stop hosting it themselves.
Susan Montgomery says
@19 So it’s stored somewhere? I can’t help but think that the bans from FB and Twitter are the Techbros last act of loyalty – the technical equivalent of tying him to a chair and stuffing a hamberder in his face just to shut him up and stop incriminating himself.
Susan Montgomery says
..and removing original evidence.
Ishikiri says
Can we give Jack Dorsey a good old public humiliation for doing the right thing years too late? We don’t have to wound him or anything, just strip him naked and slather him in mint jelly or something.
John Morales says
Ishikiri:
Hm. I think some people would pay for that pleasure.
The Vicar (via Freethoughtblogs) says
@Susan Montgomery: IIRC, back when there was the news about how Trump was refusing to save records in accordance with the law, whichever federal agency it is whose job it is to maintain the records said it was archiving his Twitter feed as it came out, and if their archives are good enough for legal purposes in other respects they are presumably good enough on Twitter as well.
(Also, as I recall, this had to be done because legally a Presidential Tweet has legal standing in a way that a congressional one does not — as I recall, if the President announces a policy over Twitter, it’s still official policy despite being announced over a non-traditional medium, because the important thing is that it’s the head of the Executive Branch saying it, whereas a Congress member has no such authority to make unilateral announcements of policy and so their social media has less legal importance.)
stroppy says
There’s a site aka memory hole. Haven’t really looked into it much, not sure what it’s up to or how extensive, etc.
https://altgov2.org/about/
unclefrogy says
I think the key here is that they were fine with all the shit when he was making them money they could justify it by saying it was historical and important any any and all rationalizations that they could find when the bottom line was he was making them money.
now with his current status and the failed insurrection any further seditious incitement just might leave them with some liability for enabling the resulting violence which would cost them money. It is money they care about the most clearly and anything that threatens that is to be avoided. I see no high ideals demonstrated by this much needed action. Just like the recent resignations
rats leaving a sinking ship.
uncle frogy
chrislawson says
Intransitive@12–
Yeah, it’s an interesting thought experiment to consider whether those social media platforms would have suspended Trump’s accounts if the Capitol riot had been more successful. What it looks like to me is an opportunity to stand up to him once he’s lost most of his power and in a few days will have no official power ledt at all.
For anyone who hasn’t seen it, I strongly recommend Bertolucci’s 1970 political thriller The Conformist. Its devastating final scene is a great analogy for today’s media owners.
jaredcormier says
@unclefrogy
Rats have spines….
jenorafeuer says
@John Morales
Well, people are willing to pay to be the one who sets off the demolitions charges at one of Tromps old casinos in Atlantic City.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55357512
archangelospumoni says
Stormfront still around? Isn’t this the most likely forum for Drumpfh?
YOB - Ye Olde Blacksmith says
I think the timing of his ban is more that, now he is basically powerless, from their point of view. As soon as he was “safe” to be banned, they did.
captainjack says
unclefrogy @ #26
The ship is made out of rats, and it’s coming apart.
vytautasjanaauskas says
Maybe twitter were hesitant to block him because the same people who wanted him banned are now outraged that one company has so much influence over someones ability to participate in public discourse?
unclefrogy says
@28
hahahahahahahahahaha!!!
harryblack says
I’m already seeing liberal freeze peachers hand wring over ‘the implications’ of allowing big tech to silence voices.
As if they havent had a track record of silencing people speaking out against oppression for years. They wont be nice to us just because we were nice to them. They will just use the rope we give them to choke us.
At least this is one less outlet for instigation and we can maybe get to work on the conditions that created such a ready and willing base.
Susan Montgomery says
@35 While I’m loathe to give Big Business power over public discourse, the fact is that Trump is demonstrating a classic example of falsely shouting “FIRE” in a movie theater and that needs to be addressed.
Sometimes values will come in conflict and it’s impossible to be %100 consistent %100 of the time. Far too many people take that as an excuse to not have values at all.
@24 Thank you, Vicar. :)
raven says
It isn’t that big a deal or shouldn’t be.
If PZ Myers can have his own website or even a whole website forum called Freethoughblogs, the White House could do the same thing.
I don’t have a Twitter account and almost never look at it, and still manage to read a few forums and post on a few.
I get that the White House website or Parler don’t have the readership numbers of Twitter but that shouldn’t be much of a problem.
If people want to read what Trump says, they can find those addresses in a few seconds.
That still leaves Trump with the entire vast right wingnut Media sphere including Fox NoNews, One America News, Newsmax, Breitbart, the Blaze, Stormfront, WSJ, Moonie Times, Epoch, New York Post etc.
christoph says
@ Susan Montgomery, # 35: I’ve always wanted to walk into a firehouse with a DVD and yell “MOVIE!”
axehand says
Charlie Stross has referred to this insurrection as “the Chicken Coup”
timgueguen says
Right wing crank cartoonist Ben Garrison also got dumped from Twitter. So it will be harder to see his cartoons of Trump as a sports car, superhero, giant wave etc.
whheydt says
Re: captainjack @ #32…
There’s a political cartoon of ships deserting a giant (Trump) rat.
Frederic Bourgault-Christie says
1984 is trending now on social media. Because conservatives are spending infinitely more time bemoaning a rich man losing a private platform he doesn’t own for speech that could actually get him jailed than condemning terrorists.
Of course, some of them were calling for us on the Left to be empathetic today.
Kevin Logan’s stream on the wailing and gnashing of teeth was great.
chrispollard says
Amazon completely shut down hosting Parler and Apple took it off the app.
Ichthyic says
his tweets from @realDonaldTrump are archived in many places. here are a couple:
https://dataverse.scholarsportal.info/dataset.xhtml?persistentId=doi:10.5683/SP/8BAVQM
https://projects.propublica.org/politwoops/user/realDonaldTrump
@Potus is a government address and is ALWAYS archived by the government itself, as are all public government accounts.
WhiteHatLurker says
Interesting – I noted that this reminded me of a quote from Space Viking that I put in an old thread. Wednesday’s incident in your capitol building reminds even more of that book.
The quote I used earlier is from just after a scene where the antagonist’s mob has rushed the government centre, and overwhelmed the poorly armed and ill prepared police protecting it. The leader had come to power with elaborate suites of lies, and at the end is a delusional creature of his own lies.
Could be light reading for those you living through this time.
I wish your country and people all the best in exiting this darker period in your history.
John Morales says
https://deadline.com/2021/01/parler-ceo-says-service-dropped-by-every-vendor-and-could-end-the-company-1234670607/