You have to listen to Rick Wiles pontificating on the death of Scalia. It’s free-form stream of consciousness in which he connects the dots on his own delusions to conclude that Obama sacrificed Scalia in a Luciferian
ritual.
It starts with two guys talking to each other. One mentions the coincidence that Scalia died on 13 February, which is the beginning date of the ancient Roman festival of Lupercalia; Wiles acts as if he’s never heard of this before, but the details he spins out tell me he was preparing this argument before hand.
So what is Lupercalia? According to the one guy, they do a “bunch of crazy stuff with women, it’s a fertility festival” and it celebrates the birth of the Roman empire. To which Wiles replies that 13 February is the 44th day of 2016, and Obama is the 44th president
. It’s a numerology argument. That’s bizarre enough, but the next thing he says dislocates my irony bone.
These people are truly into numerology. It’s their religion.
Owww.
Then it’s just a solid stream of nonsense. There’s always human sacrifice involved.
Where’s “there”? What other human sacrifices do you know about? Washington DC is full of pagan Roman sculptures.
No, not really, but it does exhibit a lot of neoclassical architecture, for historical reasons. The birth of the Roman system, the birth of fascism, was on the 13th. So they killed a justice.
No, the traditional date for the founding of Rome was 21 April 753BCE. It was not associated with fascism. The symbol of the fasces was used by Romans for the authority of the magistrates who represented the people. It’s an error to equate an ancient Roman symbol for a more modern form of dictatorship. Murdering judges was also not part of the Roman festival — and in fact, judges were represented by the fasces — so that “so” that implies this death was a natural conclusion of his garbled historical lesson was BS.
He then concludes that the assassins were sending a message, Don’t mess with us. We can murder a justice and get away with it.…The regime murdered a justice.
Except he has no evidence to think that, Scalia was being coddled in a luxurious resort that caters to the wealthy elite, and if murdering obstacles to Obama was an easy thing, shouldn’t there have been more of a bloodbath in Congress?
Also, please note, we godless secular humanists and other such atheist scum don’t believe in Lucifer, numerology, or human sacrifice. If you really want to pin a crime on us, you’re going to have to invent plausible secular motives.
Really? I have to?
Yes. I did, so you must suffer too.
I guess they were only trying to send a message to comically paranoid numerology enthusiasts? Because otherwise they sure wasted a lot of effort making the death look natural enough that no-one else suspects foul play.
The scary thing, to me, is that these conspiracy theorists (and I include Trump here) are looking at the situation and saying “well, if I were in Obama’s shoes, I would have murdered Scalia.”
You know, after carpet-bombing some place.
ah yes, being of Roman theology is why the feds forced the NFL to abandon the Roman numbering of SuperBowls for SB50… (oh, wait…)
For dog’s sake – surely if they had wanted to whack the pustule that was Scalia, that would have been about seven years ago, no?
Speaking of numerology: count the letters in the name Ronald Wilson Reagan.
666.
Q. E. D.
If I was part of a secret cabal that was involved in assassinating public figures, one of the folks I’d want on my payroll would be someone to play the part of an unhinged loon spinning up crazy-sounding conspiracy theories like Rick Wiles, so that anyone raising legitimate questions would also look like a loony.
Seriously, though, there should be a general policy of autopsies being SOP for any high-profile death, just to reduce this sort of thing. Before you lump me in with Wiles, ask yourself — if it had been Bernie Sanders who was found dead in bed, and it was his followers spinning the theories, wouldn’t you be at least a little bit suspicious when you started thinking about how many rich and powerful folks would like to see him out of the way? Much as we would prefer it not to be the case, the fact is that there are amoral people on our side of the fence.
Leaving out the silliness of the pillow, anyway, you don’t need a yuuuge conspiracy going up to Obama to want to remove all questions from a high-profile death like this. Considering the remoteness of the location and lack of security, just about anyone could have had access — a crazy local who heard a rumor at the bar about who was staying up the road, an obsessed stalker keeping track of Scalia’s movements, or even a reasonably competent hit man. So again, I think autopsies should be SOP every time — otherwise there are going to be questions.
Cross posted from the Moments of Political Madness thread.
It’s silly to have to do this, but it looks like we need to debunk the conspiracy theory that Justice Scalia was suffocated with a pillow. Donald Trump repeated the “pillow over his face” lie.
Mother Jones link.
“Above his head” might have been better than the “over his head.”
Conspiracy theories have now expanded: not only did President Obama kill Scalia, so did Hillary Clinton. Glenn Beck blamed God. Clinton killed Scalia so that, after she wins the presidency, she can appoint Barack Obama to the Supreme Court. Since other conspiracy theories have Obama running the UN, he is going to be a busy guy.
Pretty sure secular is a dirty word to that crowd.
PZ #2:
Can’t make me. Neener neener ;-)
This is bush-league conspiracy theorizing. It’s much more plausible to believe that Leonard Nimoy faked his own death in order to secretly take over the Illuminati and then had Scalia killed to usher in Emperor Hussain Obama’s One World Government and take away our guns and shit.
And why isn’t anybody mentioning the Marfa Lights?
Republican senators are getting more pressure from rightwing organizations to toe the line when it comes to obstructing an Obama nominee to replace Scalia.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/outside-groups-scotus-nom-fight
After the show they thought of their loyal fans who pay good money to hear such nonsense – and they laughed and laughed and laughed.
It was Colonel Mustard with a candlestick in the conservatory.
“Pretty sure secular is a dirty word to that crowd.”
Only “pretty” sure? Actually, *REALITY* is a dirty word in that crowd.
ugh,
I still waiting for a conspiracy theory to account for the prediliction (err predominance) of conspiracy theories over every little occurrence that baffles people. Even the psychological explanation that the brain just naturally tries to make things fit, to the point of pulling together random pieces to make them fit into particular story’ makes sense, but incomplete.
So lets pull in some random “ideas” to complete the “theory” about why the intertubez is clogged with conspiracy theories.
The aliens are using their psychic fields to cloud our minds as a distraction from their plans to take our guns and setup some faux world government to make it easier to come harvest our organs that we donate as toxic waste, aaargh I can see them watching me… they don’t want their plans revealed, that’s why they have us looking at everything else and fabricating all kinds of theories to keep us distracted…..
ugh
off the rails
brb
Ted Nugent and other conservatives have posted their theories about how and why President Obama murdered Justice Scalia:
Link.
re 17:
welllll
Scalia (errr SCOTUS) is blocking our participation in the recently enacted “Paris Accords”(tm). So it makes a twisted sense that Scalia’s demise could be out of revenge, or influence to get the rainders to rethink their blockage.
yet even I’m not paranoid enough (not quite yet) to give that any credense.[sic]
typo @18:
rainders –> remainders
There is also the fact that the last earthly deed of Scalia was to go out and kill beautiful little birds purely for the sake of his own entertainment.
Instant karma?
Cross-posted at Dispatches from the Culture Wars:
Maybe it’s just because I watch too many movies, but if I were Totalitarian-in-Chief, and I wanted an enemy to die and to send a message while I’m at it, I wouldn’t bother with trying to make it look natural or accidental. I’d make it freakin’ obvious that I was behind it, to show I can reach out and get to anyone.
Then again, that’s how they think their god works, so maybe I shouldn’t be surprised.
@21: Such actions require a precisely calibrated level of implausible deniability. Putin’s good at that.
My first big complaint about Scalia had to do with the Second Amendment, so I’d have sent in my assassins on the 2nd of February. Oh wait, February is the second month. Hmmm.
Scalia’s body wasn’t even cold before the conspiracy theories started flying.
Or what is more likely, if one were speculating, that he died under embarassing circumstances that his admirers do not want publicised, such as in the company of a young man/woman or even auto-erotic asphyxiation.
what.
Michael Savage had a meltdown while expanding on his previous discussion of Scalia’s death.
Link.
@20 places like that most often use purpose raised birds for those more accurately call shoots and not hunts
so it is even stupider
uncle frogy
@16 – The crazy part about this conspiracy theory is that there isn’t even the slightest reason for bafflement. Scalia was an overweight male who smoked and was 79. The real question is how he stayed alive this long.
VP @ 29
As George Clemenceau said of Marshal Philippe Pétain “he has no heart, no guts and no brains. How can a man like that die?”
I wonder how they feel about the moon landings…..
Savage and the rest are so unimaginative. If Obama wanted rid of Scalia why kill him? Just have his evil minions cook up a scandal to discredit him, like framing him for sex crimes or massive bribe taking. That also applies to Savage, Jones, and the rest. How much credibility would they have left with their fans if it came out that they were taking massive payments from the Russians or the Saudis to push conspiracy crap?
Lynna, OM #27
That “Hussein” trope – people either calling him by his full name, or, as in this case, simply reducing it to “Hussein” thing grates on me so much. This fucking blatant whistle meaning “brown”, “other”, “foreigner”, “Muslim”, “enemy”, “sub-human” is so odious it makes me sick.
I thought Nugent was dead or in jail. Isn’t that what his prediction was if Obama was re-elected?
Oh, it’s in the the official rules of the Global League of Evil Conspiracies – every member conspiracy must use arcane symbols and numerological formulae to “sign” their handiwork. Failure to do so will result in the loss of League points, and in the case of repeated offenses, expulsion from the League!
Are you trying to tell us something? ;-)
Yes, now you mention it, that’s very suspicous! Probably Obama murdered the real Scalia some while ago, substituting a robot that could simply be switched off at a time of his choosing. The cunning, cunning fiend!!!!
The mildly deranged penguin has cracked what really happened: It wasn’t Scalia who died, it was Obama. Scalia is now residing in the White House wearing an Obama mask. Proof of this is a secret order to FEMA to close the camps, and to make the trains available to to the Army so they can begin to deport non-thugs (including the imported moolsin forces Obama stashed in the national parks) and pretend-thugs (that is, anyone committing any of the crimes of not having “white” skin, or not being a tithe-paying xian republican, or having a vagina and either a job or shoes, or anything else President Scailia deems to be contrary to the of the Constitution’s writers).
Using their usual reliable unskewed polls, plus NSA/FBI/CIA/et al. databases, They estimate this will take about a week — maybe a month if some are (temporarily) used to laborers to build the Great Southern Wall — and then the finally, the truely-“United” States can settle down to an infinite period of prosperity, peace, and raping the rest of the world (using a few nukes every now and then if some furrin
countrycolony refuses to comply with a “request”).