Amusing. But I didn’t see much actual mansplaining in it, which is unfortunate since it’s a term that many people don’t seem to understand. It would’ve been great to have a short comedic vid to explain what it is.
I does seem to conflate mansplaining with a larger phenomenological category (immigrant: emegrisplain? poor people: impovrisplain?).
But it has a lot of potential if they sharpen things up a bit. It definitely requires fedoras somewhere.
knowknotsays
Agreement on lack of actual mansplaining in the vid, and lack of “sharpness.” Even though I’d hate to discourage anyone who’s actually trying to make a dent.
Also agree re potential for something similar… something that really shows the insidious / ubiquitous nature of the problem, the way it actually causes harm and supports other behaviors and beliefs, without being heavy handed (so someone might actually VIEW it), or hopefully funny (so more someones might actually view it).
(Really wish I had the time to step up… because this right here sounds like a massive “sumbuddy oughta,” which my knee jerk association correlates with the wrong beer in the wrong place in the wrong company…)
@Brony There wasn’t much ‘splaining of any kind going on. Just rudeness and derailing. More “what about the menz?” and a touch of “#notallmen”. Mansplaining would have had him informing them how to properly run a support group, telling the first woman that “girls” actually respond well to being complimented in public by strangers, and interrupting the second woman to define harassment from a dictionary just in case she wasn’t sure of the concept.
It’s all about patronising condescension, especially when the woman being mansplained to is actually an expert on the subject–often more of an expert than the man–either via academic proficiency or personal experience. It has to do with an assumption that whatever the topic, it’s more of a guy thing and the ladies need some helpful help, *manly* helpful help in figuring things out. This can be a deliberate, sexist conclusion on the man’s part, or subconscious sexism. (e.g. see Natalie Reed’s recently related experience of being talked down to in a record store.)
@5 Ed Isgod
Well, Ed, if we’d known there was something less substantial just sitting around here the whole time I’m sure the strawman would have had a day off.
That is clicking in my memory now, with the subject being what the woman actually has knowledge about. I should have remembered that because I did read a couple of articles about some examples from a professor. I need to go find that and bookmark it because some of these thing do slip out of my head a little too easy.
nancymartinsays
“Eyebeam: What do you mean, I have “male answer syndrome”?
Sally: It’s the compulsion to provide an answer to any question, even if it means resorting to pure speculation.
Eyebeam: I knew that…
Sally: It’s a very widespread phenomenon.
Beth: I wonder what causes it?
Eyebeam: Cause? Well, society has chosen male role models who always exhibit total control… If a male says “I don’t know”, he’s admitting to conversational helplessness and failing to live up to that societal standard…
Sally: Pretty pitiful, huh?
Eyebeam: Damn!
Beth: …And I always thought they learned it all in “shop”.”
The Adventures of Notall Man and his sidekick The Mansplainer!
Todays Episode: The Great Fedora Heist
*Cues the theme song*
Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na…
Amusing. But I didn’t see much actual mansplaining in it, which is unfortunate since it’s a term that many people don’t seem to understand. It would’ve been great to have a short comedic vid to explain what it is.
I does seem to conflate mansplaining with a larger phenomenological category (immigrant: emegrisplain? poor people: impovrisplain?).
But it has a lot of potential if they sharpen things up a bit. It definitely requires fedoras somewhere.
Agreement on lack of actual mansplaining in the vid, and lack of “sharpness.” Even though I’d hate to discourage anyone who’s actually trying to make a dent.
Also agree re potential for something similar… something that really shows the insidious / ubiquitous nature of the problem, the way it actually causes harm and supports other behaviors and beliefs, without being heavy handed (so someone might actually VIEW it), or hopefully funny (so more someones might actually view it).
(Really wish I had the time to step up… because this right here sounds like a massive “sumbuddy oughta,” which my knee jerk association correlates with the wrong beer in the wrong place in the wrong company…)
@Brony There wasn’t much ‘splaining of any kind going on. Just rudeness and derailing. More “what about the menz?” and a touch of “#notallmen”. Mansplaining would have had him informing them how to properly run a support group, telling the first woman that “girls” actually respond well to being complimented in public by strangers, and interrupting the second woman to define harassment from a dictionary just in case she wasn’t sure of the concept.
It’s all about patronising condescension, especially when the woman being mansplained to is actually an expert on the subject–often more of an expert than the man–either via academic proficiency or personal experience. It has to do with an assumption that whatever the topic, it’s more of a guy thing and the ladies need some helpful help, *manly* helpful help in figuring things out. This can be a deliberate, sexist conclusion on the man’s part, or subconscious sexism. (e.g. see Natalie Reed’s recently related experience of being talked down to in a record store.)
@3: to be nit-picky I think the terms would be whitesplaining and wealthsplaining, since those are the privileges they’re grounded in.
5
<snort> What strawman would that be?
Oh, to live and post context-free.
Dear Allison and Jamie,
I love you.
@5 Ed Isgod
Well, Ed, if we’d known there was something less substantial just sitting around here the whole time I’m sure the strawman would have had a day off.
@ Ibis3, Let’s burn some bridges 6
That is clicking in my memory now, with the subject being what the woman actually has knowledge about. I should have remembered that because I did read a couple of articles about some examples from a professor. I need to go find that and bookmark it because some of these thing do slip out of my head a little too easy.
“Eyebeam: What do you mean, I have “male answer syndrome”?
Sally: It’s the compulsion to provide an answer to any question, even if it means resorting to pure speculation.
Eyebeam: I knew that…
Sally: It’s a very widespread phenomenon.
Beth: I wonder what causes it?
Eyebeam: Cause? Well, society has chosen male role models who always exhibit total control… If a male says “I don’t know”, he’s admitting to conversational helplessness and failing to live up to that societal standard…
Sally: Pretty pitiful, huh?
Eyebeam: Damn!
Beth: …And I always thought they learned it all in “shop”.”
― Sam Hurt, The Mind’s Eyebeam