That is an AWESOME Cthulhumas card. Someone send one to slc1/colnago, huh?
fulcrumxsays
“The end is sort of in sight” kind of reminds me of what the Rev. Harold Camping used to say a lot.
Thumper: Token Breedersays
Saw the Banksy Xmas card earlier on FB :) love it.
Seconding CaitieCat! And send it to SteveoR as well :)
robrosays
fulcrumx @#3
“The end is sort of in sight” kind of reminds me of what the Rev. Harold Camping used to say a lot.
Well, he was sort of right. The end finally came for Rev. Camping just four days ago.
David Marjanovićsays
The cross looks remarkably Scientological.
robrosays
The irony of that card is so deep, given that the current state of Israel is based on the myth of ancient Israel. Particularly interesting at this time of year, however, is the image of Mary riding the ass.
A friend (who is Christian) recently told me about the myth of the ass. Apparently asses are noted for having a cross figure on their backs. The myth is that this cross is the result of Jesus riding into Jerusalem on the back of one.
Then, I learned last night about onolatry, worshiping the ass. Apparently some Romans believed that Jews, and later Christians, worshipped an ass-headed god. Jewish and Christian apologists went to some lengths to discount the claim as a lie…of course they did…and since Christians won the cult wars, we hear virtually nothing about this.
Several people (such as Plutarch) wrote about it and there is even some physical evidence (interpreted as slander naturally). Here’s a run down from the Jewish Encyclopedia.
stevemsays
Mea Culpa! All I could think of was, that was a card for Texas, their fantasy of a great wall along the Rio Grande to keep out all those mexicans (“wetbacks”). <sigh> I need that picture explained to me; what the heck is it supposed to represent? Clueless; my bad.
You’re not far wrong, stevem. It’s the Israeli wall to keep out Palestinians. Similar concept.
Francisco Bacopasays
And if they even get to a checkpoint they will have a hell of a time with immigration. Tradition says they are Magi from the east. I think that would make them likely from Iran or Iraq.
Any of y’all see that “Christmas Star” planetarium show? They’ve been showing it in Houston year since at least the early 70’s. They show it a lot of other places too. It’s actually pretty cool. Gives the faithful something to cling to while completely demolishing the traditional Nativity scene concept of the Christmas star.
chigau (違う)says
I’d like a wall like that along the 49th parallel.
microraptorsays
@chigau- I imagine that many Canadians would.
randaysays
Not only is this Israeli Wall built to keep Palestinians out, it is built on Palestinian West Bank land, sometimes deep into their land, beyond the Green Line. Palestinian privately owned property has been expropriated by Israel for it. So it is a de facto illegal annexation of that land, just as are the Israeli colonies, which are called “settlements” for propaganda reasons. A few years ago CNN reporters were told to refer to illegal Israeli colonies in East Jerusalem as “neighborhoods”.
nrdosays
I think the image is naive. The wall built on the West Bank has both negatives and positives. Clearly, the sections of the wall that were built on Palestinian land are harmful, illegal and should be removed (hopefully soon) so that the Palestinians can have a contiguous state. However, peace negotiations were continually sabotaged by suicide terrorism before the barrier was built, so in a way, it may end up having an indirect positive effect in the long run. (Unless, one takes the extremists’ position that continued bloodshed over perceived injustice is preferable to peace)
randaysays
nrdo, you are naive. The Israeli terrorists have killed ten or a hundred times more Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, and Egyptians that the so-called Palestinian terrorists. How is a suicide bombing worse than bombing and shelling with millions of sub-munitions? If you use high tech, apparently it’s ok, but if you use primitive means it’s not.
nrdosays
@ randay
That’s quite a straw man argument. I think every innocent noncombatant killed over a piece of land is an immeasurable tragedy. That doesn’t change the fact that there are regressive factions in both the Israeli and Palestinian communities that want to fight and they will both have to be overcome in order to see peace.
randaysays
nrdo, yours is a point that was often made by the late Christopher Hitchens.
David Marjanovićsays
However, peace negotiations were continually sabotaged by suicide terrorism before the barrier was built
…and they’ve been being sabotaged by continuous building of “settlements” before, during and after the barrier was built. It continues today.
Giliell, professional cynic -Ilk- says
I haven’t even written my finals, let alone anybody graded them.
But I’m grateful for a break
CaitieCat says
That is an AWESOME Cthulhumas card. Someone send one to slc1/colnago, huh?
fulcrumx says
“The end is sort of in sight” kind of reminds me of what the Rev. Harold Camping used to say a lot.
Thumper: Token Breeder says
Saw the Banksy Xmas card earlier on FB :) love it.
Seconding CaitieCat! And send it to SteveoR as well :)
robro says
fulcrumx @#3
Well, he was sort of right. The end finally came for Rev. Camping just four days ago.
David Marjanović says
The cross looks remarkably Scientological.
robro says
The irony of that card is so deep, given that the current state of Israel is based on the myth of ancient Israel. Particularly interesting at this time of year, however, is the image of Mary riding the ass.
A friend (who is Christian) recently told me about the myth of the ass. Apparently asses are noted for having a cross figure on their backs. The myth is that this cross is the result of Jesus riding into Jerusalem on the back of one.
Then, I learned last night about onolatry, worshiping the ass. Apparently some Romans believed that Jews, and later Christians, worshipped an ass-headed god. Jewish and Christian apologists went to some lengths to discount the claim as a lie…of course they did…and since Christians won the cult wars, we hear virtually nothing about this.
Several people (such as Plutarch) wrote about it and there is even some physical evidence (interpreted as slander naturally). Here’s a run down from the Jewish Encyclopedia.
stevem says
Mea Culpa! All I could think of was, that was a card for Texas, their fantasy of a great wall along the Rio Grande to keep out all those mexicans (“wetbacks”). <sigh> I need that picture explained to me; what the heck is it supposed to represent? Clueless; my bad.
Alethea H. "Crocoduck" Kuiper-Belt says
You’re not far wrong, stevem. It’s the Israeli wall to keep out Palestinians. Similar concept.
Francisco Bacopa says
And if they even get to a checkpoint they will have a hell of a time with immigration. Tradition says they are Magi from the east. I think that would make them likely from Iran or Iraq.
Any of y’all see that “Christmas Star” planetarium show? They’ve been showing it in Houston year since at least the early 70’s. They show it a lot of other places too. It’s actually pretty cool. Gives the faithful something to cling to while completely demolishing the traditional Nativity scene concept of the Christmas star.
chigau (違う) says
I’d like a wall like that along the 49th parallel.
microraptor says
@chigau- I imagine that many Canadians would.
randay says
Not only is this Israeli Wall built to keep Palestinians out, it is built on Palestinian West Bank land, sometimes deep into their land, beyond the Green Line. Palestinian privately owned property has been expropriated by Israel for it. So it is a de facto illegal annexation of that land, just as are the Israeli colonies, which are called “settlements” for propaganda reasons. A few years ago CNN reporters were told to refer to illegal Israeli colonies in East Jerusalem as “neighborhoods”.
nrdo says
I think the image is naive. The wall built on the West Bank has both negatives and positives. Clearly, the sections of the wall that were built on Palestinian land are harmful, illegal and should be removed (hopefully soon) so that the Palestinians can have a contiguous state. However, peace negotiations were continually sabotaged by suicide terrorism before the barrier was built, so in a way, it may end up having an indirect positive effect in the long run. (Unless, one takes the extremists’ position that continued bloodshed over perceived injustice is preferable to peace)
randay says
nrdo, you are naive. The Israeli terrorists have killed ten or a hundred times more Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, and Egyptians that the so-called Palestinian terrorists. How is a suicide bombing worse than bombing and shelling with millions of sub-munitions? If you use high tech, apparently it’s ok, but if you use primitive means it’s not.
nrdo says
@ randay
That’s quite a straw man argument. I think every innocent noncombatant killed over a piece of land is an immeasurable tragedy. That doesn’t change the fact that there are regressive factions in both the Israeli and Palestinian communities that want to fight and they will both have to be overcome in order to see peace.
randay says
nrdo, yours is a point that was often made by the late Christopher Hitchens.
David Marjanović says
…and they’ve been being sabotaged by continuous building of “settlements” before, during and after the barrier was built. It continues today.