Although, I’ve got to say, the message is somewhat attenuated by the fact that this is a comic strip about a talking cat having an argument with a troll.
Aren’t we all just testicle-smashing cats having arguments with trolls, PZ?
BMurraysays
Typical Kurtz, re-hashing someone elses gag. “Vanished in a puff of logic” belongs to a better man.
temminickisays
“ow, my balls”
Junesays
Is a cat always right because it says ‘science’? Is a magic square dumb because of the word ‘magic’? Why does rationality want to kick testicles? It’s sometimes hard to tell the cats from the trolls.
Kylgarsays
I like the subtle little nod that is the title of that particular strip: “candles in the dark.”
tsgsays
Is a cat always right because it says ‘science’?
No. It’s just right more often.
Is a magic square dumb because of the word ‘magic’?
Equivocation.
Why does rationality want to kick testicles?
Loaded question.
It’s sometimes hard to tell the cats from the trolls.
I generally like Kurtz’s style. He like science and pop culture, he doesn’t hold with a lot of the silliness of religion, though he stops short of declaring himself completely irreligious. For someone running a daily strip, the humor is decent, and he’s not afraid of taking risks to expand the media he works in.
Of course, the bone I have to pick with him is that he’s cancelled on Heroes Convention for the last three frickin’ years, so I have not been able to get his signatures on my copies of his “Striptease” collection, “Truth, Justin, and the American Way”, or buy a Skull plushie in person.
I had forgotten about PVP… I used to read that, well, uhm… religiously. I should go back through the ones I’ve been missing.
rrtsays
I’ve always felt Kurtz and I wouldn’t see quite eye-to-eye, but I definitely like this one.
Silisays
Never really got into PvP. Kurtz reputation preceeded him.
Not his best work, but Ryan Smith has long been one of my favourites. L&F is only a stop-gap measure, though, now that he’s wrapped up the strip he’s been working on the last nine years. The second strip may be a help to understanding …
GunOfSodsays
Off Topic, but anyone who is interested in Abiogenesis, may be interested in looking at this:
#4: It’s sometimes hard to tell the cats from the trolls.
#7: Not from where I’m sitting.
Truth is where you are sitting???
Jodysays
In Mr. Kurtz’ defense, the cat was made super-intelligent by science.
tsgsays
#4: It’s sometimes hard to tell the cats from the trolls.
#7: Not from where I’m sitting.
Truth is where you are sitting???
Er, what?
Benjamin Geigersays
Kurtz wrote an essay—he referred to it as a rant, but—a while ago. It was destroyed in one of his site redesigns, but the Wayback Machine pulled through.
Anyway, one paragraph he wrote can be credited with much my current view on life (and afterlife):
When I sit and think about what will happen to me when I die, I try to become comfortable with the only form of immortality we can prove exists. We leave an impression on the world the moment we enter it. We touch people’s lives, we effect the course of history both broad and personal. We can become a thread in the larger tapestry. Possibly, that’s all we get. If I can become content with that possible outcome, why would I fear death? Certainly that’s as noble a legacy as basking in Jesus for eternity.
Isn’t there female magic to kick? Where does science kick it?
Trust me, getting whacked in the crotch hurts really quite a bit even if you don’t have testicles. It’s something about the uncontrolled transfer of kinetic energy to the albeit small external portion of an organ crammed with nerve endings…
(Disclosure: I’ve never actually been kicked there, but I did have this rather unfortunate incident with landing hard on the leather-covered metal pommel of an English saddle once. That was years ago, and I think I’m still vaguely queasy.)
False Prophetsays
All long time readers of PvP know the real hero of the strip is Kurtz’s dad.
Reminds me of a quote from the show Metalocalypse:
Senator Stampingston: Gentlemen, it’s clear that we’re in a universally precarious situation. Dethklok has summoned a troll.
General Crozier: That’s impossible, there’s no such thing as trolls.
Senator Stampingston: Then how do you explain the dead unicorns?
revertedsays
If magic isn’t real then explain TROLLS & GIANTS!!!one!
Schmeer says
If magic isn’t real then explain TROLLS & GIANTS!!!one!
What a great quote. Heh, “…kick in the nuts.”
Capital Dan says
Aren’t we all just testicle-smashing cats having arguments with trolls, PZ?
BMurray says
Typical Kurtz, re-hashing someone elses gag. “Vanished in a puff of logic” belongs to a better man.
temminicki says
“ow, my balls”
June says
Is a cat always right because it says ‘science’? Is a magic square dumb because of the word ‘magic’? Why does rationality want to kick testicles? It’s sometimes hard to tell the cats from the trolls.
Kylgar says
I like the subtle little nod that is the title of that particular strip: “candles in the dark.”
tsg says
No. It’s just right more often.
Equivocation.
Loaded question.
Not from where I’m sitting.
Deepsix says
That’s a cat and a troll??
Ranson says
I generally like Kurtz’s style. He like science and pop culture, he doesn’t hold with a lot of the silliness of religion, though he stops short of declaring himself completely irreligious. For someone running a daily strip, the humor is decent, and he’s not afraid of taking risks to expand the media he works in.
Of course, the bone I have to pick with him is that he’s cancelled on Heroes Convention for the last three frickin’ years, so I have not been able to get his signatures on my copies of his “Striptease” collection, “Truth, Justin, and the American Way”, or buy a Skull plushie in person.
But that’s just me.
Philip Downey says
http://www.videosift.com/video/Robot-Chicken-Ode-to-the-Nut-Shot
Still makes me laugh.
Eric says
I had forgotten about PVP… I used to read that, well, uhm… religiously. I should go back through the ones I’ve been missing.
rrt says
I’ve always felt Kurtz and I wouldn’t see quite eye-to-eye, but I definitely like this one.
Sili says
Never really got into PvP. Kurtz reputation preceeded him.
Not his best work, but Ryan Smith has long been one of my favourites. L&F is only a stop-gap measure, though, now that he’s wrapped up the strip he’s been working on the last nine years. The second strip may be a help to understanding …
GunOfSod says
Off Topic, but anyone who is interested in Abiogenesis, may be interested in looking at this:
blog.wired.com
GunOfSod says
Grr. Soz.
blog.wired.com
King Aardvark says
Kick in the nuts? That’s my thing!
King Aardvark’s Kick in the Nuts
June says
#4: It’s sometimes hard to tell the cats from the trolls.
#7: Not from where I’m sitting.
Truth is where you are sitting???
Jody says
In Mr. Kurtz’ defense, the cat was made super-intelligent by science.
tsg says
Er, what?
Benjamin Geiger says
Kurtz wrote an essay—he referred to it as a rant, but—a while ago. It was destroyed in one of his site redesigns, but the Wayback Machine pulled through.
Anyway, one paragraph he wrote can be credited with much my current view on life (and afterlife):
cervantes says
a comic strip about a talking cat having an argument with a troll.
You mean, kind of like Pharyngula?
Rey Fox says
“No. It’s just right more often.”
And it knows when it’s wrong.
Sven DiMilo says
Magic’s got nuts?
Isn’t there female magic to kick? Where does science kick it?
Kicking ovaries causes collateral damage.
Ron Sullivan says
#17: Truth is where you are sitting???
Eliza(tm), is that you?
Interrobang says
Isn’t there female magic to kick? Where does science kick it?
Trust me, getting whacked in the crotch hurts really quite a bit even if you don’t have testicles. It’s something about the uncontrolled transfer of kinetic energy to the albeit small external portion of an organ crammed with nerve endings…
(Disclosure: I’ve never actually been kicked there, but I did have this rather unfortunate incident with landing hard on the leather-covered metal pommel of an English saddle once. That was years ago, and I think I’m still vaguely queasy.)
False Prophet says
All long time readers of PvP know the real hero of the strip is Kurtz’s dad.
Brian's A Wild Downer says
Reminds me of a quote from the show Metalocalypse:
Senator Stampingston: Gentlemen, it’s clear that we’re in a universally precarious situation. Dethklok has summoned a troll.
General Crozier: That’s impossible, there’s no such thing as trolls.
Senator Stampingston: Then how do you explain the dead unicorns?
reverted says
Reminds me of this: “GOD gave us [trolls and giants]!” ;)
The Science Pundit says
Never mind the trolls & giants, how do you explain PYGMIES & DWARFS perfessor Meyers?
Sven DIMilo says
PZ said “crotch,” the cartoon itself specified “nuts.”
Me, I don’t like getting kicked anywhere.
Davidlpf says
I think I kicked a troll in the vitual balls over at Bad Astronomy but he has been quiet for hours, oh it felt good.
Nick Gotts says
An alternative formulation is that of “Papa” Monzano, President-for-Life of San Lorenzo in Vonnegut’s Cat’s Cradle:
“Science is magic that works.”
Cat’s Cradle can be interpreted as showing the danger of treating science that way – as esoteric knowledge that belongs to a circle of adepts.