Here’s a Safe Assumption


[WARNING: sexual abuse]

Any group which is generally male-led, maintains strong insider-versus-outsider privacy, and has its own process for adjudicating misbehavior – is going to be a haven of sexual abuse. Period. This applies in retrospect to the US congress, the roman catholic church, police departments, certain buddhist ashrams, some yoga schools, the boy scouts, etc.

It’s quite possible that there are organizations that are male-led and don’t exhibit this problem, but if they exist it’s probably because they were careful about it. I’m not saying “they are all guilty!” I’m saying “we should suspect them all.” In fact, it’s the very definition of “suspicious behavior” when dissent and complaint are treated as an internal matter. Why? That sure is convenient. Convenient why and for whom?

I had to do some serious thinking before I wrote “male-led” instead of “authoritarian” because sometimes authoritarians are subtle. They know that authoritarianism has a certain creepiness to it, because of exactly this reason: why else would you need to be authoritarian, unless it be to fill people’s heads with bullshit, separate them from their money, or take advantage of them sexually? Authoritarianism is used as a justification for “what I say is right” (without further explanation) and “do as you are told” – which are two of the favorite levers of the abuser.

breaking down a horse’s knees and hooves by trotting it on pavement

Out here in Pennsylvania, we’re in “Amish country” – there are small enclaves of them all over the place, but in some areas you have to be careful because they’re out in the roads in their stupid little horse-drawn carriages. [Why that’s not animal abuse, I don’t know; trotting a horse on pavement for hours is not good for the horse, at all. Never mind taking it out in traffic where it can get plowed into by a car.] No doubt some of the amish are true believers and great people, but there are also a fringe of libertarian-like scammers, who use their amishness to avoid paying taxes. My big eye-opening moment about the amish was when exwife dragged me to a horse auction, and most of the concessions were run by amish. There was a girl with a severe limp, about 12 years old; at some point her leg had been broken and badly set. She was going to go through her whole life limping because her parents’ beliefs entailed eschewing modern medicine. That immediately struck me as some of the worst religious bullshit I had ever encountered, so I went home and did a bit more research into the amish. Basically, if you’re a child of the amish you can expect to grow up blinkered and ignorant. If you’re an animal the amish own, you get worked to death. If you’re a girl child, your uterus is trading-coin for your father to make partnerships with. You’ll never get an education because you don’t need one. And don’t you dare complain – about anything – because nobody’ll hear you and males run the show. Does that sound like a situation that’s ripe for sexual abuse, too? Of course it is.

Cosmpolitan reports [cosmo] a litany of sexual abuse, rape, and incest in the long-established christian cult fringe:

As a child, Sadie* was carefully shielded from outside influences, never allowed to watch TV or listen to pop music or get her learner’s permit. Instead, she attended a one-room Amish schoolhouse and rode a horse and buggy to church – a life designed to be humble and disciplined and godly.

OK, here I have to wave a red flag, aside from the sexual abuse issue: their life is not “designed to be humble and disciplined and godly” it is designed to fit into a structure of political control from childhood. Political systems arise for the benefit of someone – usually the establishment at the top. Sometimes, authoritarian political systems use religion as the justification for their power, i.e.: “it is god’s will.” In order to maintain that sort of authoritarian structure, as George Orwell points out in 1984 you want to isolate people and keep them ignorant. If that’s not a nutshell description of the amish, I don’t know what is.

By age 9, she says, she’d been raped by one of her older brothers. By 12, she’d been abused by her father, Abner, a chiropractor who penetrated her with his fingers on the same table where he saw patients, telling her he was “flipping her uterus” to ensure her fertility. By 14, she says, three more brothers had raped her and she was being attacked in the hayloft or in her own bed multiple times a week. She would roll over afterward, ashamed and confused. The sisters who shared Sadie’s room (and even her bed) never woke up – or if they did, never said anything, although some later confided that they were being raped too.

Sadie’s small world was built around adherence to rules – and keeping quiet was one of them. “There was no love or support,” she says. “We didn’t feel that we had anywhere to go to say anything.”

… and her dad was a fake doctor, too. There’s a double-load of authoritarian power for you. And you know that “Abner” was doing that to other girls as well; they always do once they discover they can get away with it.

Over the past year, I’ve interviewed nearly three dozen Amish people, in addition to law enforcement, judges, attorneys, outreach workers, and scholars. I’ve learned that sexual abuse in their communities is an open secret spanning generations. Victims told me stories of inappropriate touching, groping, fondling, exposure to genitals, digital penetration, coerced oral sex, anal sex, and rape, all at the hands of their own family members, neighbors, and church leaders.

The Amish, who number roughly 342,000 in North America, are dispersed across rural areas of states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky, New York, Michigan, and Wisconsin, according to the Young Center for Anabaptist and Pietist Studies at Elizabethtown College, a leading authority on Amish life. Because of their high birth rate – and because few members ever leave – they’re one of the fastest-growing religious groups in America. Lacking one centralized leader, they live in local congregations or “church districts,” each made up of 20 to 40 families. But the stories I heard were not confined to any one place.

creepy amish wax schoolkids [article]

I once described the amish as “America’s own little taliban” and I was wrong; they are not little.

Virtually every Amish victim I spoke to – mostly women but also several men – told me they were dissuaded by their family or church leaders from reporting their abuse to police or had been conditioned not to seek outside help (as Sadie put it, she knew she’d just be “mocked or blamed”). Some victims said they were intimidated and threatened with excommunication. Their stories describe a widespread, decentralized cover-up of child sexual abuse by Amish clergy.

“We’re told that it’s not Christlike to report,” explains Esther, an Amish woman who says she was abused by her brother and a neighbor boy at age 9. “It’s so ingrained. There are so many people who go to church and just endure.”

“It’s not christlike” – a perfect example of authoritarian justification: behave in accordance with the interpreted dictates of an imaginary being, instead of having the ghost of a chance of justice.

“Amish victims don’t even know the names of body parts,” confirms Stedman. “To describe a sexual assault without having any fundamental sex education, it presents even more challenges.”

Keep them ignorant, tell them it’s god’s will.

The amish belief system is not cute; they are a fucking cult – another one of those weird-ass christian denominations that has fundamentally ridiculous beliefs. They experienced oppression and abuse from the established catholic church and other new christian sects such as the lutherans, and came over to North America to do a little preachin’ and genocidal land grabbin’. Because the amish keep to themselves, and claim a strong ideology of pacifism, they’ve got some of the positive brand marketing of the quakers, except it’s completely undeserved. Think of the amish more as christian libertarians and you’ve got the basic idea. They don’t even make beautiful furniture like the shakers did.

If we lived in a rational civilization, there would be a department of child protective services, which would look for and check up on organizations where the organization’s structure and practices were likely to become shelters for sexual abusers. Unfortunately, they’d be really busy, since that is: every authoritarian organization run by men.

A former co-worker lives in “amish country” and used to tell some pretty whacky stories about her amish neighbors. One consistent thread was hypocrisy. A neighbor down the road is amish and owns the “amish scratch and dent” stores, which are a popular and successful low-cost jobber that buys discards that are not supposed to be sold on the public market (think: dented canned food) and sells them to the other amish. Naturally they pay no taxes. The neighbor owns what she calls “the amish mercedes” which is a beautiful (but very humble) horse cart with a matched pair of friesian horses. (Friesians can run $50,000 and up and are emphatically not cart horses). Another neighbor moves houses every 3 years, because his particular amish sect’s rules are that if you buy a house with modern conveniences, you have 3 years to remove them and replace them with 18th century technology. Amish cultists engage in some backward leaps of logic in order to live comfortably in the modern world; many families have a shabbos goy [wik] who owns a truck that can tow horses, so they can get to/from market, etc. In other words: its religion as usual.

The amish reliance on 18th century technology is not inspired by some goofy interpretation of some god’s word; it’s based on self-reliance and fundamentally libertarian politics: it is harder for outsiders to control you if you are self-reliant.

If you try to dig into what “anabaptists” are and where they come from, it’s obscured by suppression by catholics and protestants in the old world. [wik] It’s a variation of baptist cults: the idea that pretending to be john the baptist and dunking eachother in water to wash away sins would somehow clear them of worldly pain. It’s complete bullshit, in other words. There’s not enough water you can dunk yourself in to wash away child abuse.

Re: animal abuse. I once had someone argue with me that “the amish care for their animals and give them work and purpose” which is a flat-out silly argument if you’ve ever known a horse. They are perfectly comfortable to live without pulling a plow; just ask one. The amish feel that god put horses on earth to pull plows and carts, see? Well, I have a belief, which is that god invented fucking diesel engines so that people could make tractors.

Comments

  1. Dunc says

    The amish reliance on 18th century technology is not inspired by some goofy interpretation of some god’s word; it’s based on self-reliance and fundamentally libertarian politics: it is harder for outsiders to control you if you are self-reliant.

    That’s also a key tenet of Stoic philosophy, which I think (correct me if I’m wrong) you’ve spoken of approvingly in the past… I think there’s a lot to be said for being self-reliant and resistant to external control. The issue is what you do with it.

  2. says

    My big eye-opening moment about the amish was when exwife dragged me to a horse auction, and most of the concessions were run by amish. There was a girl with a severe limp, about 12 years old; at some point her leg had been broken and badly set. She was going to go through her whole life limping because her parents’ beliefs entailed eschewing modern medicine.

    I broke my leg back when I was six years old. Three months later it was perfectly healed.

    A state ought to enforce criminal penalties for parents who fail to take their sick children to a qualified doctor.

    “Amish victims don’t even know the names of body parts,” confirms Stedman. “To describe a sexual assault without having any fundamental sex education, it presents even more challenges.”

    Yeah, I have experienced that too – https://proxy.freethought.online/andreasavester/2020/01/07/can-we-talk-about-sex-part-1-sex-education-for-children/

    Totally lacking education meant that I couldn’t recognize sexual abuse when it happened, I had no clue that I was dealing with something dangerous, I didn’t know that I needed to report the incident to adults, I didn’t even know the vocabulary I would have needed in order to explain what exactly happened.

    If we lived in a rational civilization, there would be a department of child protective services, which would look for and check up on organizations where the organization’s structure and practices were likely to become shelters for sexual abusers.

    Also, ban social isolation of children. A child becomes much more vulnerable if they have never been to a normal school, have never spoken with people outside of their isolated community. A normal school could teach a child that they have rights and that there exist laws that forbid child abuse.

  3. says

    Andreas Avester@#2:
    Also, ban social isolation of children. A child becomes much more vulnerable if they have never been to a normal school, have never spoken with people outside of their isolated community. A normal school could teach a child that they have rights and that there exist laws that forbid child abuse.

    Yes. Why is it that schools don’t teach kids “here are warning signs” and “these behaviors are off limits even if your parents do them.” Kids rights are sacrificed all the time in favor of parents religious beliefs or authoritarianism. It’s barbaric. I don’t believe parents get any rights over their kids that other people don’t have (i.e.: none) – There is always the question of who approves medical procedures when a child cannot, but I believe that such situations should have an involvement from a representative for the child, as well as the medical professional. I.e.: parents can be overruled. Someone should have told those amish fucks to get their child to a hospital ASAP or they were going to lose custody of the child.

    Now, think about the nightmare scenario: the child has no avenue for complaint. There are no phones; they can’t call child protective services and they don’t even know child protective services exist. There is no internet, so they won’t post “my brother keeps poking me with his you-know – is that normal?” on instagram. They are raised like they are food animals.

  4. says

    Marcus @#4

    Yes. Why is it that schools don’t teach kids “here are warning signs” and “these behaviors are off limits even if your parents do them.” Kids rights are sacrificed all the time in favor of parents religious beliefs or authoritarianism. It’s barbaric.

    My school didn’t teach me this. I suspect that it wasn’t done so as to accommodate parent’s beliefs. Instead, the problem was much simpler. My teacher was prepared to teach math to a class of seven years old children. She wasn’t prepared to talk with these children about sex or sexual abuse. Many adults, including teachers, are very uncomfortable with talking to children about anything sex-related. All the sex education I ever had at school was provided by guest teachers. And whoever was in charge decided that seven years old children don’t need any sex education, instead the lesson about anatomy and where babies come from was scheduled for when we were about 12, the lesson about safe sex and STIs was for when we were 16.

  5. says

    On the one hand, I pretty much 100% agree with Marcus here, but for fairly bloody-minded reasons.

    On the other hand, this is pretty much exactly the line of thinking that rationalized colonialism. “Look at those awful people, doing things we find odious, someone ought to go jolly well sort them out.”

  6. John Morales says

    Dunc @1:

    [self-reliance] That’s also a key tenet of Stoic philosophy

    The Stoic version is personal; I think you’re confusing self-reliance with group-reliance.

  7. John Morales says

    Andrew, that was a putative rationale — the actual rationale was to conquer and to plunder.

  8. says

    The Cosmo article is great for highlighting the extent of the abuse. But as with other religions, groups or governments accused of abuse, this isn’t the first time people have been accused.

    Amish are the extremist wing of the “liberal” mennonite cult. The mennonites have their own long and sordid history of abuse.

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