You may remember the case of a driver who used a van to plow into pedestrians on a busy street in Toronto on April 2018 and killed 10 and injured 16. A judge has lifted a publication ban on a four-hour interview that he gave after being arrested, where he says that he was inspired to start a revolution by online videos made by so-called ‘incels’, the term that involuntary celibates give themselves.
The attack traumatized Canada’s largest city, and cast a spotlight on the so-called “incel” online subculture of men united by sexual frustration and a hatred of women.
…In a nearly four-hour interview after his arrest, Minassian told police officers that he was virgin who had never had a girlfriend, admitted to using the van as a weapon and said he wanted to inspire more attacks.
Asked how he felt about the death of 10 people, he replied: “I feel like I accomplished my mission.”
…During the meandering discussion with Detective Rob Thomas, Minassian said he belonged to an online subculture of sexually frustated men, and described his path towards radicalization, saying he drew inspiration from other men who used violence as a form of retribution for “being unable to get laid”.
“I know of several other guys over the internet who feel the same way,” he said, adding they are “too cowardly to act on their anger”.
Clad in a white prison jumpsuit, Minassian told police that his interactions with women left him embarrassed and angry. He described a Halloween party in 2013, where he tried to speak with young women, but was often ignored or laughed at.
“I consider myself a supreme gentleman,” he said, adding: “I was angry that they would give their love and affection to obnoxious brutes.”
…The group views their inability to meet women as punishment for their status as “beta-males” and direct their anger at the people with active sex lives who they derisively call “Chad” and “Stacey”.
Minassian claimed to have been in contact with Elliot Rodger, who killed six people and himself in a 2014 the campus at the University of California, Santa Barbara, in 2014. Rodger was a self-described incel who posted deeply misogynist videos and a sprawling online manifesto calling for an “overthrow” of what he said was feminist domination.
Minassian told police he was “radicalized” at around the time of Rodger’s attack – and began to fantasize about starting his own “rebellion”.
“I was thinking that I would inspire future masses to join me in my uprising as well,” he said.
That incident was also noted for the way that Ken Lam, the lone police officer on the scene, deescalated the conflict and refused to be drawn into shooting him even though Minassian wanted to die in a ‘suicide by cop’ and pretended to draw a gun on Lam several times, hoping to get killed. Lam gave a textbook example of how to de-escalate a situation. Watch.
Of course, “being unable to get laid” is total justification for killing people. What a fucking douche. Watch some god-damned porn and masturbate if you need to get some release. No man is guaranteed to be provided with pussy.
Then you have a problem with reality. A “supreme gentleman” would not kill people just because he did not “get laid”.
YOU were angry that THEY would give their love to whomever THEY CHOOSE to do so. Sounds like YOU are the one with the problem.
“The Supreme Gentleman” is the incel appellation for Elliot Rodger, coined by himself in his pre-attack manifesto.
I wish US cops had the training Ken Lam had and put to use. If Minassian had done what he did here, he’d have been shot dead before he could draw his fake gun.
These men need to be watched.
The so-called incels cannot possibly be involuntarily celibate.
Are they not aware that there are women who offer sexual gratification in exchange for money?
mailliw
Of course they are. But it’s not so much the sexual gratification they crave as the desire to be the object of a female’s total subservience. These men are incredibly angry that they aren’t getting what they desire most, all for free.
@Lofty 5
They are, in every sense of the words, “tight fisted”.
re mailliw @4 and Lofty @5: The incels not only don’t think they should pay for sex, they would only be satisfied if the female of their choice is a “10” in their eyes. If they acted even halfway decently, they could probably find women who would date them and give them attention and affection, but these women don’t meet their impossibly high “standards” for who they think they deserve.
> “I consider myself a supreme gentleman,” he said,
Thus proving beyond any reasonable doubt that he’s completely fucking deranged.
I feel like every piece of the sexual part of their spiel is just a bunch of bullshit. It doesn’t mean anything. It’s there to mean whatever they want it to mean, justify whatever they want it to justify. Because it’s outlandish gibberish.
This guy wanted to kill people and he eventually found a way to talk himself into doing it. Why he wanted to kill people might be worth looking into but it’s got nothing to do with anyone’s sex life. He’s just another privileged asshole upset that his privilege doesn’t extend farther than it already does. He wants the privilege of being able to dump all his problems on wide swathes of other people and force them all to make it up to him somehow. But his grievances amount to peevishness that he doesn’t control everyone else’s personal lives.