Kevin O’Leary is a Canadian. Can we put him in a concentration camp?
O’Leary: You want China instead? You want concentration camps? Let me take you over there.
McGowan: Let me take you to West Virginia where we’re building them now.
(Also, that chyron gives me the heebie-jeebies.)
What ICE is doing is not comparable to the Holocaust. The Holocaust is not just a cudgel for you to use against your political opponents.
Oh look a Coyne bot in aisle 1
Looks like Obama is sipping the anti-woke Kool-Aid.
O’Leary probably has dealings with Chinese/Chinese owned factories, because it’s hard not to in the 21st Century if you have a lot of different products.
We\re lucky up here that O’Leary dropped out of the Conservative leadership race a few years back because it was effectively too much work for him.
No one mentioned the Holocaust until you did. The US had concentration camps in the 19th century.
In 2019 O’Leary ran down and killed two people with his yacht, but he claimed his wife was driving and she and him got off.
The British invented concentration camps (including the term) in the Anglo-Boer war in South Africa (1899-1902).
The large centres ICE is building are literally that: camps in which to concentrate the population of people considered undesirable.
The USA had concentration camps in the 1940s for US born Japanese citizens.
One of my friend’s parents met there and eventually got married.
George Takei, Mr. Sulu of Star Trek spent his childhood there.
It was not one of the USA’s best moves.
Whenever you are ethnic cleansing, genociding, or persecuting a large group of people, you end up with concentration camps.
O’Leary isn’t the only Canadian fascist in the USA.
The Proud Boys started in Canada and the former head of them is a Canadian.
The most notorious is the crackpot and malevolent all around hater, Jordan Peterson.
Jordan Peterson and his daughter both now live in Arizona.
He has money from somewhere even after spending a lot on his health problems.
Peterson is still an active hater, running a fake online school teaching mindless right wingnut lies and propaganda.
If anyone should be deported as an undesirable alien, it should be Peterson and his daughter.
We don’t need Canadian fascists. We already have too many of our own.
The driveby troll and coward is back to repeat his lies.
ICE is doing exactly what the Nazis were doing.
The Holocaust didn’t just happen. It progressed over many years. First were propaganda and lies designed to raise awareness and direct hate towards minorities. Then vandalism against property. Passing laws against groups of people. Rounding them up. The end result after 9 years was the start of the Holocaust.
The Nazis took power in 1933. The Wannsee conference, where it was implemented was in 1942.
ICE just started their terrorism campaign a year ago when Trump was elected.
Genocides take time.
If you could think, you would realize that rounding up and murdering millions of people takes a lot of time. Especially in what was once a democracy. Go too fast and the majority of the people wake up and say, “no”.
We are waking up and saying “no”.
You and your fascist buddies are cheering them on.
He is just a driveby troll. And a coward. You notice he didn’t stay very long.
Not worth spending a lot of time on.
“What would you have done in Nazi Germany in the 1930s”
The answer is simple. Look in the mirror.
What you are doing today is what you would have been doing in 1930s Germany.
Which means rills the troll would be posting simple minded one line lies on Resistance websites.
Or, since they didn’t have the internet, telling everyone that murdering millions of Jews, Roms, leftists, gays, and the disabled isn’t a big deal worth worrying about.
bravus @ # 7: The British invented concentration camps (including the term) …
The Spanish had a version before then, set up to control Cuban insurrectionists, but they didn’t come up with a memorable alliterative name. Branding is everything!
Hemidactylus @3, re the chyron ‘Obama: Dems needs to avoid scolding and “virtue signalling”’, here is the source without the misleading paraphrasing. Primary sources matter.
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raven makes a good point.
The Nazi Party was founded on 24 February 1920.
Let’s see how it was going exactly 100 years ago:
https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/the-nazi-rise-to-power/the-nazi-rise-to-power/reorganisation-and-the-bamberg-conference/
Hmm. I am certainly seeing a degree of comparability.
Thanks John @13. Here’s a transcript:
https://barackobama.medium.com/my-conversation-with-brian-tyler-cohen-e25cac125f44
He also went on to talk up that wonderful Bad Bunny halftime show.
There does seem to be an aspect of Obama signaling here to the centrists who complain about green hair, septum rings, and cancel culture. He could be taken in the wrong way, as was Hillary Clinton when she said there was a basket of Trump supporters who warrant our empathy.
It probably should be noted that Obama was talking with Brian Tyler Cohen who had that whole Chorus controversy a while back which ruffled some feathers.
In the biographical movie about blacklisted author Dalton Trumbo, author of the antiwar novel Johnnie Got His Gun, they discuss how during the McCarthyite 1950s many leftists feared being put into concentration camps and had made plans to flee to Mexico or Canada.
Googling this I just learned that JGHG was published in 1939! Amazing. I always thought it was a 60s, anti-Vietnam War novel.
also, Obama is a huge con artist in his own right: sold us hope, and instead gave us the opposite (greatly increased inequality) and he laid the groundwork for much of what Trump is doing, including jumped-up immigration enforcement (“Deporter in Chief” who also separated families.) Also, he’s responsible for numerous civil liberties infringements, including prosecution of whistleblowers and extrajudicial killings. Also, at least 2 Epstein pals (Summers and Ruemmler) in his admin.
Now he’s sitting on a $200 MM personal fortune, pretending like none of that happened, and he has a right to lecture us all. I couldn’t despise him more.
Talking about fascists, camps as suchlike, what about Skynet?
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“Trump’s Pentagon Furious At Anthropic’s Ethical Objections”
.https://youtube.com/watch?v=hN_lEI_gA-w
hillaryrettig1@16
I have the book, but haven’t yet read it. I have seen the movie, which takes place in WWI. Donald Sutherland plays Jesus in several disturbing scenes. The whole movie is disturbing and might give one PTSD. The only reason I was ever interested in watching the movie was because Metallica interpolated parts into the music video “One”, which may have given a good number of GenX’ers profound psychological scars to go along with our lead exposure.
The movie came out in 1971 so may have been aimed at the war in Vietnam, just as MASH was set in Korea but was also a Vietnam era movie/TV show.
@19 Hemidactylus. Interesting. We were assigned the novel in high school (1970s). I would think a movie would be really disturbing.
Same.
Late 1960s.
I seriously doubt if any public school could or would assign that book today.
I guess I’d have to commend Metallica for making me more cultural literate while scarring me in the process. I was never assigned the book. I think they wound up purchasing rights to the movie.
Ranks up there with any intense horror movie.
hillaryrettig1 @17,
I’m not gonna dispute your perception, but for mine, a message of hope is much better than a message of hate, just as a message about unity is better then a message of division.
@23 John
Yeah I have mixed feelings on Obama. He seems the best POTUS in my lifetime. Carter might be up there though he did have Zbig, who people despise almost as much as Kissinger.
Clinton was mixed as he was dog whistling to racists during his campaign and signed the 1994 crime bill, the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act, the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act, and was probably nicer to Israel than Bush Sr.
Clinton tried for healthcare reform in the early 90s but was bulldozed by the right. Obama succeeded but lacked a public option. Health care insurance is a scam.
The first American concentration camp was arguably the Indian Mills reservation in 1757…before independence. It would appear America has hosted concentration camps in the 18th, 19th, 20th, and now 21st centuries.
That would help renew our historic friendship, please do!