Incels and misogynists seem to have missed out on a lot of genetics, so they freely make it up as they go along.
[Theory] if you have a daughter, you areren’t a real man (100% male). you’re 1% female.
the fact that your daughter was a fetus inside your mother, which is because she was originally a sperm in your testicles, means there was a foid in your testicles,therefore not all of your body was male because there was a part of your body that was female. now before you think this means mothers with sons aren’t 100% male, that argument doesnt work and its different because the male fetus was originally a sperm in the dad’s balls and therefore came from the dad’s balls originally NOT the mom’s womb, thus it was part of the dad’s body NOT the mom’s body. therefore,if you have a daughter, you aren’t 100% male. you’re 99.9% male and 1% female, Real men can only have sons. and it’s also cucked to have a daughter because you raise her for 18 years to become a slut who has sex with dozens of chads but that’s just water is wet the sky’s biue grass is green.
“BRB forcibly removing my X chromosomes from my body:”
The other prevailing theory is that the foid’s egg selecively bars X or Y from entering in through the walls, depending on her own femininity/masculinity. But since slightly more males are born than females, even Y chromosome sperm seem to be physically faster and more powerful than X chromosome sperm, mirroring ‘what we see IRL in terms of physiality. Given that, it seems that a more testosteroned or hypermasculine male will produce, if not more Y chromosome sperm, a least Y chromosome sperm with greater mobilty and physical strength
this doesn’t surprise me. why would hypermasculine men have daughters?
Your daughter (or your son) was not a fetus inside your mother. I think this is this guy’s foundational error: he thinks women are like matryoshka dolls, carrying a nested series of their descendants in their ovaries. That’s not true, as I don’t need to tell you. It’s fascinating to see that this antiquated notion is still festering in the brains of certain benighted individuals.
If that’s your model, though, it doesn’t make sense to claim that a male fetus was originally a sperm in the dad’s balls
, because he would also have been an ovum in your grandmothers ovary.
He’s also deeply misogynistic, as you can tell by the fact he is calling women foids
, and also thinks that having a whiff of feminine biology is a terrible condition. He doesn’t seem to be aware that 51% of all babies born are male, which would imply that most people would be half and half.
There’s a grain of truth in the Y chromosome sperm seem to be physically faster and more powerful than X chromosome sperm
. Statistically, Y-bearing sperm are faster, but they’re also weaker — X-bearing sperm last longer.
But really these are all bad claims badly justified. I will assure you that no student of my university who has taken genetics would ever say something so stupid.
“Foids.” The internet has truly given a voice to the little guy, which in hindsight is not such a good thing.
For a community that loves to pat itself on the back for being so observant, and truly understanding how society works (unlike us normies), the incel community sure are a bunch of lackwits.
Bloody hell, I can’t even make sense of half of that. Yeah, somewhere in there seems to be a vestige of the old theory that the sperm contains a tiny fetus, but he’s somehow mashed it together with X and Y chromosomes and the result is an incomprehensible mess. I get flerfer posts on FB that make more sense. He flunks basic writing skills, along with middle school biology.
WTF has gone wrong with these people?
It’s worth pointing out (or is it?) that while women have all their eggs at birth, men don’t produce sperm until puberty, and they’re continually being formed anew in the testes throughout life. And there are exactly as many X-containing sperm formed as Y-containing sperm. Gametogenesis produces pairs of haploid cells.
Over the rainbow, he is CRAZY!
I wonder if they think that is true for all species?
Oh look, yet another example of a child that got left behind by Bush’s education policies.
The real problem is the hypermasculine foids have zero understanding of chromosomes.
Whatever you do don’t tell him where his mitochondria came from.
Interesting; I had to look that up, and found that “foid” is a dehumanising slang term used in misogynistic online subcultures to refer to women as “femaloids”, implying contempt and objectification.
It’s also rather stupid jargon: calling women “foids” is semantically incoherent because it implies they aren’t actually female.
Sadly, the internet, which has enabled the creation of infinite echochambers to concentrate crazy.
Send this genius’s resumé to The White House [sic, now, again] as possible backup for RFK Jr.
Oglaf beat this guy to it (NSFW, if you’re not familiar with oglaf)
https://www.oglaf.com/son-of-kronar/
How about if a man has a son, then a daughter, then another son? Did he lose his man card there in the middle?
larpar, the man would need a womb to have a son in the firsst place. So not all men.
that guy can’t do math either.
99.9% + 1% is not 100%
Don’t be an ass.
I’m guessing they also think only “hypermasculine” men should be allowed to have sex with women and reproduce. In which case, if they are only producing male offspring, what happen when they run out of females?
Are ye drunk John?
[Heh, Tethys. A transgender man can gestate, but a cisgender man cannot. ‘Have’ is ambivalent and contextual.
I find word/concept/semantic play droll, but of course not everybody gets it. It obliquely alludes to their concept of sex as a fixed binary, so that a man cannot actually have a womb, and to have a child does not mean to be the impregnator of a womb-bearer.
To your actual query: no, I am not particularly under the influence of intoxicants]
Seems to me that you trolled yourself by making the braindead claim about men needing wombs to have sons, and are now trying to justify it with trans men.
Pretty lame joke.
I know, Tethys. I know. To you, it’s lame.
(Bot gets it, of course.
After all, it’s a language model)
I quite appreciate John’s acknowledgment of womb-bearing trans men, personally.
That said, I think larpar @14 was referring to the incel’s* original scenario, in which a cis man was “having” children in the sperm-donor sense. Incels generally refuse to admit trans people exist.
And larpar, I’m honestly not sure how the incel would interpret that situation. Maybe you were never a real man, and you were just lucky enough not to realize it until the daughter came along. Or maybe you were a real man, but you ate too much soy products and lost your physiological man card and so you started producing X-chromosome sperm for the first time. Only future pseudoscientific research can tell us!
*I don’t use the poster’s name out of disrespect, but simply because it doesn’t much matter. 99% of posts like that are copypasta anyway.
I was trying to riff, Prax. Not to dispute.
I see your riff and raise you a humorless clarification, sir.
[by mine own petard]
Well, aside from everything else wrong here, the notion that fathers of daughters are “cucked” whatever the hell that actually means, by their daughters’ promiscuity with multitudes of men seems to reveal ignorance or denial of the existence of both nuns and lesbians. Those of us whose daughters are “out in the mountains” can sigh a great sigh of relief to know that despite our dwindling masculinity at least we’re a little less cucked….whatever the hell that actually means.
Your daughter (or your son) was not a fetus inside your mother.
Well, that depends. Maybe if our esteemed host had spent more time in the South, he’d understand.
@Matthew Currie
The video “The Semiotics of Cuck” is a good discussion of that if you want. The summary is it’s racist, sexist toxic masculinity
We have GOT to stop asking “How stupid can you get?” Because these dipshidiots are taking that as a challenge.
A man might go the way of Schwarzenegger in that bad comedy and carry an inplanted egg. How would they be able to shoehorn that into this ‘explanation’?
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Is there a word for ‘the opposite of explanation” BTW? I am sure the Germans have one.
The sperm have mitochondria, but they aren’t passed on to the growing embryo. So he is carrying around icky lady parts in every cell.
@ 31 birgerjohansson
How about “nonxplanation”, pronounced nonce-planation, which especially applies if this father considers himself cucked when his daughter has sex with other men.
@dangerousbeans, thanks for the link. I do actually sort of know what “cuck” means, or what it started out meaning, or at least thinks it means to signify, but in the more philosophical sense consider it a term without meaning, if you know what I mean, because its use has come so unmoored from both its etymology and any semblance of consistency with it. I mean, in the end, “cuck” is sort of like “woke,” a catchall denigration that ends up a fancy way of letting the world know you’re a brainless schoolyard bully without actually saying it.
nomdeplume@6: “WTF has gone wrong with these people?”
Wrong question, “What isn’t wrong with them?” is a MUCH shorter list, and with potentially with zero entries.