I think the August topic might have to be “Spelling”.
Aaron or Tori?
larparsays
A show about nothing.
; )
azpaul3says
That was deliberate, right Doc? It was an easter egg to delight the masses while calling attention to the show … right?
birgerjohanssonsays
(yes, yes, Brits and Mericans spell it differently. But the European side has Mike Marshall, the Ace of Sceptics) https://youtu.be/3mbvWn1EY6g
Alan G. Humphreysays
Mom always said, “Don’t run with that keyboard, you’ll put out an i.”
hemidactylussays
At some point the skeptical movement dropped a critical letter and became septic.
Die Anywaysays
No big deal, it was a silent i anyway.
Hj Hornbecksays
Ah geez, I must have spent too much time figuring out how to make the background show up through the magnifying glass, and not enough on checking my spelling. The Queen’s English has been rightfully restored.
Rob Grigjanissays
The French had the good sense to ditch the New Latin spelling sceleton and adopt the English ‘skeleton’. We should have had the good sense to change ‘c’ to ‘k’ when we adopted the French sceptique (a homophone for septique). Is there any other English word starting with ‘sce’ in which the ‘c’ is pronounced ‘k’?
severskysays
Scatalogical?
severskysays
Scant?
severskysays
Scuttle?
John Moralessays
seversky, the conditional was “any other English word starting with ‘sce’ in which the ‘c’ is pronounced ‘k’”, from which follows none of your adduced candidate words (ps. it’s ‘scatological’) qualify on that basis.
(I note I can’t think of any others, offhand)
—
I will check the podcast out, surely the ‘dictionary atheist’ trope will feature.
(Surely there is but one way to be a proper atheist, for some)
Tethyssays
Rob @ 9
. Is there any other English word starting with ‘sce’ in which the ‘c’ is pronounced ‘k’?
Not many that use e, but most sc words are pronounced as K, unless as you noted, they originate in French.
Scald, scaffold, scalp, scant
C comes from Latin. It doesn’t exist in Futhark.
Thus Charlemagne is spelled Karoli (magne -the mighty) in German.
School is pronounced as sk, but since English only has five vowels it uses i for the words that had ei as the vowel. Like Einstein.
chigau (違う)says
I think “scepticism” is a perfectly cromulent word.
@14 tethys is right. Karoli der Grosse. (where is that darned essszet key on my ‘american english’ keyboard anyway?)
I look forward to the podcast.
Tethyssays
Schedule has an e. I don’t think Old English adopted the letter chay (ch), but Frankish has a lot of Vulgar Latin influence.
John Moralessays
Tethys, schedule has an e, but it also has h. It’s not scedule.
Again: the conditional was “any other English word starting with ‘sce’ in which the ‘c’ is pronounced ‘k’”
When you wrote “Not many that use e”, be aware I reflected for a bit before writing “I can’t think of any others, offhand”. Can you think of any at all?
The younger futhark substituted the diphthong ch for k, which is why English has school, but German spells it shule.
I’m sure the ch comes from Latin speaking priests. There was no such thing as standardized west Germanic spelling in the Carolingian era.
John Moralessays
Ah well. I myself use either ‘skepticism’ or ‘ scepticism’ as seems fit.
Often the former in this place, since I like assonance (not just the literal kind) when quoting and responding.
Anyway.
Topic: Atheists talking about atheism
(Question mark)
I think such a discussion would be lacking were it not to address, howevermuch in passing, the nascence, relevance, etiolation, and decline of “New Atheism”.
(Not like PZ did not have a salient role there — and yes, I remember his self-deprecating 4th horseman joke from back when, before his divorce)
John Moralessays
[um, 5th. Ahem.]
Tethyssays
John
“I can’t think of any others, offhand”. Can you think of any at all?
Words that are Germanic in origin aren’t going to use c because it doesn’t exist in their letter set. Elder Futhark doesn’t have a Q either, but it does have a K. Kaiser is cognate with Caesar. English spelling generally retains a k for words that are native to Germanic. Skein, skerry. Schooner and scheme are akin to schedule.
K words also evolved into English spellings like Quote, which was originally spelled Kvad. Squeak, squeal,
squill,
John Moralessays
That’s a “no”, Tethys. No need to be coy.
John Moralessays
What’s that wriggly thing that foams with noxious secretions?
(Ah, nevermind)
John Moralessays
I suppose another topic worth mentioning is the case of the sad specimens such as nevermind, who obviously are fundamentally hurt by actual atheistic atheism.
Rob Grigjanissays
Tethys @22:
Words that are Germanic in origin aren’t going to use c because it doesn’t exist in their letter set.
Old English adopted c. scyld (shield), scyrte (shirt), cyning (king), etc.
John Moralessays
Nevermind, topic!
You are supposed to be dribbling your spurts of ejaculate about PZ.
Of course when it comes Elon Musk
Ah yes, that musky scent that so excites you. That musky musk!
(Wankity-wank wank, nevermind)
John Moralessays
<snicker>
But that musky Musk, O dribbly one!
You are a regular at Pharyngula
I know. You kinda sorta try to be, but the big boys never want to play with you.
(aww)
John Moralessays
Hey, castrated slut, go play with someone’s dick.
I am playing with a dick. ;)
(A bit shabby, a bit manky, but hey. Best dick you can be, I’m sure)
No real men are allowed here, of course
Yet here I am.
(Slam dunk!)
John Moralessays
So, nevermind, you think I’m either an unreal man or an unreal woman, right?
(I mean, what else is there?)
Never mind. You are definitely a sad sack. So there’s that.
—
Hey, how many times is it now you’ve tried to play with the big kids?
(Hope springs eternal, I suppose)
John Moralessays
nevermind, you are not just a face, though you are surely getting reamed.
(I know you enjoy it, so there’s that. Virtuous, am I!)
John Moralessays
(Done like a dinner, down to the incoherent sputterings)
Make sure you dont chocke on jizz
Such fantasies!
(Just because you’ve had a bad experience doens’t mean others also have)
—
Ah well, enough fun for now.
See ya next time, specimen.
John Moralessays
Aww. How can I resist?
But by all means, go suck cocks. That’s a pharyngulate favorite hobby, aint it?
Well, you obviously think so, and thus you are so very desperate to comment here.
Pretty obvious what you want.
(As I noted, hope springs eternal)
—
Hey, did you know there’s gonna be a podcast talking about atheism?
Tethyssays
Rob @32
Old English adopted c. scyld (shield), scyrte (shirt), cyning (king), etc.
Sc is pronounced sh in OE. There are coins called sceats from the Anglo Saxon period, pronounced shat. O.N uses serk for shirt, but skip for ship. Keep in mind that ch in German Ich is pronounced similar to K but also like a cat throwing up a furball.
John Moralessays
:)
Weeping pustule weeps pus.
—
Meanwhile, atheism.
Something that is now mainstream, in no small part due to New Atheism.
StevoRsays
@ nevermind : Wow, still trolling, still obsessed with gay & trans sex I see.
How sad. Not the gay sex thing although you’re obvs not getting any, your pitiful trolling and foaming at the mouth about it here.
Oh well, you’ll be gone soon and all your hateful lustings at least from this blog and banned again. & nothing will be lost and no one upset but you..
I would recommend you go and rethink your life. If you can actually think ..can you?
StevoRsays
Oh & aptly named nevermind FYI. most people generally keep their sexual fantasies to themselves.
There are fanfic venues and letters columns to prono mags that might be interested in your fetishistic onanistic scribblings if you really need to put them out there but even there I sugegts you need toflesh them out and work on making them better writing~wise.
Obviously, the pathetic troll has been purged. I was amused that he was quoting Jerry Coyne in between the raging obscenities.
hemidactylussays
@17- Tethys
In Merka we use a hard “k” for schedule. When Brits say it the “c” doesn’t seem to be anywhere to be found. That is one word that sounds odd to me with a British accent. Almost a dog full head tilt.
Callinectessays
I miss the days when atheists talked about politics and social justice. What happened to us?
Reginald Selkirk says
Aaron or Tori?
larpar says
A show about nothing.
; )
azpaul3 says
That was deliberate, right Doc? It was an easter egg to delight the masses while calling attention to the show … right?
birgerjohansson says
(yes, yes, Brits and Mericans spell it differently. But the European side has Mike Marshall, the Ace of Sceptics)
https://youtu.be/3mbvWn1EY6g
Alan G. Humphrey says
Mom always said, “Don’t run with that keyboard, you’ll put out an i.”
hemidactylus says
At some point the skeptical movement dropped a critical letter and became septic.
Die Anyway says
No big deal, it was a silent i anyway.
Hj Hornbeck says
Ah geez, I must have spent too much time figuring out how to make the background show up through the magnifying glass, and not enough on checking my spelling. The Queen’s English has been rightfully restored.
Rob Grigjanis says
The French had the good sense to ditch the New Latin spelling sceleton and adopt the English ‘skeleton’. We should have had the good sense to change ‘c’ to ‘k’ when we adopted the French sceptique (a homophone for septique). Is there any other English word starting with ‘sce’ in which the ‘c’ is pronounced ‘k’?
seversky says
Scatalogical?
seversky says
Scant?
seversky says
Scuttle?
John Morales says
seversky, the conditional was “any other English word starting with ‘sce’ in which the ‘c’ is pronounced ‘k’”, from which follows none of your adduced candidate words (ps. it’s ‘scatological’) qualify on that basis.
(I note I can’t think of any others, offhand)
—
I will check the podcast out, surely the ‘dictionary atheist’ trope will feature.
(Surely there is but one way to be a proper atheist, for some)
Tethys says
Rob @ 9
Not many that use e, but most sc words are pronounced as K, unless as you noted, they originate in French.
Scald, scaffold, scalp, scant
C comes from Latin. It doesn’t exist in Futhark.
Thus Charlemagne is spelled Karoli (magne -the mighty) in German.
School is pronounced as sk, but since English only has five vowels it uses i for the words that had ei as the vowel. Like Einstein.
chigau (違う) says
I think “scepticism” is a perfectly cromulent word.
shermanj says
@14 tethys is right. Karoli der Grosse. (where is that darned essszet key on my ‘american english’ keyboard anyway?)
I look forward to the podcast.
Tethys says
Schedule has an e. I don’t think Old English adopted the letter chay (ch), but Frankish has a lot of Vulgar Latin influence.
John Morales says
Tethys, schedule has an e, but it also has h. It’s not scedule.
Again: the conditional was “any other English word starting with ‘sce’ in which the ‘c’ is pronounced ‘k’”
When you wrote “Not many that use e”, be aware I reflected for a bit before writing “I can’t think of any others, offhand”. Can you think of any at all?
—
[OT, but have you ever read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feersum_Endjinn ?0
Tethys says
The younger futhark substituted the diphthong ch for k, which is why English has school, but German spells it shule.
I’m sure the ch comes from Latin speaking priests. There was no such thing as standardized west Germanic spelling in the Carolingian era.
John Morales says
Ah well. I myself use either ‘skepticism’ or ‘ scepticism’ as seems fit.
Often the former in this place, since I like assonance (not just the literal kind) when quoting and responding.
Anyway.
Topic: Atheists talking about atheism
(Question mark)
I think such a discussion would be lacking were it not to address, howevermuch in passing, the nascence, relevance, etiolation, and decline of “New Atheism”.
(Not like PZ did not have a salient role there — and yes, I remember his self-deprecating 4th horseman joke from back when, before his divorce)
John Morales says
[um, 5th. Ahem.]
Tethys says
John
Words that are Germanic in origin aren’t going to use c because it doesn’t exist in their letter set. Elder Futhark doesn’t have a Q either, but it does have a K. Kaiser is cognate with Caesar. English spelling generally retains a k for words that are native to Germanic. Skein, skerry. Schooner and scheme are akin to schedule.
K words also evolved into English spellings like Quote, which was originally spelled Kvad. Squeak, squeal,
squill,
John Morales says
That’s a “no”, Tethys. No need to be coy.
John Morales says
What’s that wriggly thing that foams with noxious secretions?
(Ah, nevermind)
John Morales says
I suppose another topic worth mentioning is the case of the sad specimens such as nevermind, who obviously are fundamentally hurt by actual atheistic atheism.
Rob Grigjanis says
Tethys @22:
Old English adopted c. scyld (shield), scyrte (shirt), cyning (king), etc.
John Morales says
Nevermind, topic!
You are supposed to be dribbling your spurts of ejaculate about PZ.
Ah yes, that musky scent that so excites you. That musky musk!
(Wankity-wank wank, nevermind)
John Morales says
<snicker>
But that musky Musk, O dribbly one!
I know. You kinda sorta try to be, but the big boys never want to play with you.
(aww)
John Morales says
I am playing with a dick. ;)
(A bit shabby, a bit manky, but hey. Best dick you can be, I’m sure)
Yet here I am.
(Slam dunk!)
John Morales says
So, nevermind, you think I’m either an unreal man or an unreal woman, right?
(I mean, what else is there?)
Never mind. You are definitely a sad sack. So there’s that.
—
Hey, how many times is it now you’ve tried to play with the big kids?
(Hope springs eternal, I suppose)
John Morales says
nevermind, you are not just a face, though you are surely getting reamed.
(I know you enjoy it, so there’s that. Virtuous, am I!)
John Morales says
(Done like a dinner, down to the incoherent sputterings)
Such fantasies!
(Just because you’ve had a bad experience doens’t mean others also have)
—
Ah well, enough fun for now.
See ya next time, specimen.
John Morales says
Aww. How can I resist?
Well, you obviously think so, and thus you are so very desperate to comment here.
Pretty obvious what you want.
(As I noted, hope springs eternal)
—
Hey, did you know there’s gonna be a podcast talking about atheism?
Tethys says
Rob @32
Sc is pronounced sh in OE. There are coins called sceats from the Anglo Saxon period, pronounced shat. O.N uses serk for shirt, but skip for ship. Keep in mind that ch in German Ich is pronounced similar to K but also like a cat throwing up a furball.
John Morales says
:)
Weeping pustule weeps pus.
—
Meanwhile, atheism.
Something that is now mainstream, in no small part due to New Atheism.
StevoR says
@ nevermind : Wow, still trolling, still obsessed with gay & trans sex I see.
How sad. Not the gay sex thing although you’re obvs not getting any, your pitiful trolling and foaming at the mouth about it here.
Oh well, you’ll be gone soon and all your hateful lustings at least from this blog and banned again. & nothing will be lost and no one upset but you..
I would recommend you go and rethink your life. If you can actually think ..can you?
StevoR says
Oh & aptly named nevermind FYI. most people generally keep their sexual fantasies to themselves.
There are fanfic venues and letters columns to prono mags that might be interested in your fetishistic onanistic scribblings if you really need to put them out there but even there I sugegts you need toflesh them out and work on making them better writing~wise.
chigau (違う) says
That was weird.
PZ Myers says
Obviously, the pathetic troll has been purged. I was amused that he was quoting Jerry Coyne in between the raging obscenities.
hemidactylus says
@17- Tethys
In Merka we use a hard “k” for schedule. When Brits say it the “c” doesn’t seem to be anywhere to be found. That is one word that sounds odd to me with a British accent. Almost a dog full head tilt.
Callinectes says
I miss the days when atheists talked about politics and social justice. What happened to us?