You are right of course, but most of America (even the right wingers) don’t bother about NASCAR at all.
mambasays
Ever watch the movie “Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby”?
Practically a documentary on their mentality. It’s SUPPOSED to be satire, but watching it I found it to be surprisingly on the nose. So yeah, seeing a sea of racist flags is not a surprise at all.
hemidactylussays
Formula One has a greater diversity of flags and a North American driver named Sergio Perez. There’s a delicious irony in that given the current xenophobic climate on our side of the border.
microraptorsays
It takes a special kind of person to be entertained by cars driving in circles for two hours.
unclefrogysays
it is also true that most of those who display that flag would also declare that they are true american patriots and loyal as in american love it or leave it.
uncle frogy
stephensherriersays
What is helpful to remember is that each element of disloyalty and betrayal in such a display is not created equal. Persons who set up such a display might claim loyalty to America, but they can scarcely claim that displays like this one constitute respectful acknowledgement of the Confederate dead. That the flag in question constitutes the Confederate Battle Flag is the last bastion of the defenders of that flag’s display, yet history has surely never known an ostensible symbol of gallantry so routinely disrespected by its advocates.
lumipunasays
Confederate secession was the original false flag operation.
jack16says
I wonder if they really understand that they announce “I’m a proud racist!”?
jack16
gijoelsays
@4 Ban alcohol at those events and watch the numbers plummet.
hemidactylussays
I know someone who did his PhD thesis on NASCAR culture. He got to tag along during at least one season amongst the natives and do field work in the pits. I never read his thesis, but he did tell me a bit about the bootlegging background of the sport. Actually interesting stuff, but given its roots in the Deep South there’s always been a heavy redneck element. There are tracks outside the south. And I recall NASCAR trying to globalize doing a race in Japan when Dale Sr was still alive. His death paralleled that of Ayrton Senna for impact on motorsports. Most NASCAR tracks are oval and boring. I used to prefer Superbike races back when Duhamel was active. Now that’s poetry in motion right there.
I don’t know how many black drivers have made it anywhere in stock car racing. That’s an issue. Oh there’s this guy:
Danica Patrick had a decent run that brought women into the scene. Colombian Juan Pablo Montoya came from F1 and raced the redneck ovals for a bit. I don’t watch anymore after I got into F1, but thems foreigners race at funny hours which means like middle of the night here.
microraptorsays
gijoel @9: Indeed.
mountainbobsays
Recists? Yup! For sure. And, the drivers are athletes as well. Football players work hard for 15 seconds or less and then rest for a minute. Race drivers fight the wheel continuously for 2+ hours, and dare not often blink (they can travel 50 yards with their eyes closed during a blink, and forget about a sneeze). Drivers must have 360 degree situational awareness and lightning fast reflexes. And, they still crash and burn. Ain’t nuthin’ says you cannot be a racist and still appreciate the physical abilities of the driers, even if you’ve got too much beer or rot-gut under your belt.
Kanooni says
You are right of course, but most of America (even the right wingers) don’t bother about NASCAR at all.
mamba says
Ever watch the movie “Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby”?
Practically a documentary on their mentality. It’s SUPPOSED to be satire, but watching it I found it to be surprisingly on the nose. So yeah, seeing a sea of racist flags is not a surprise at all.
hemidactylus says
Formula One has a greater diversity of flags and a North American driver named Sergio Perez. There’s a delicious irony in that given the current xenophobic climate on our side of the border.
microraptor says
It takes a special kind of person to be entertained by cars driving in circles for two hours.
unclefrogy says
it is also true that most of those who display that flag would also declare that they are true american patriots and loyal as in american love it or leave it.
uncle frogy
stephensherrier says
What is helpful to remember is that each element of disloyalty and betrayal in such a display is not created equal. Persons who set up such a display might claim loyalty to America, but they can scarcely claim that displays like this one constitute respectful acknowledgement of the Confederate dead. That the flag in question constitutes the Confederate Battle Flag is the last bastion of the defenders of that flag’s display, yet history has surely never known an ostensible symbol of gallantry so routinely disrespected by its advocates.
lumipuna says
Confederate secession was the original false flag operation.
jack16 says
I wonder if they really understand that they announce “I’m a proud racist!”?
jack16
gijoel says
@4 Ban alcohol at those events and watch the numbers plummet.
hemidactylus says
I know someone who did his PhD thesis on NASCAR culture. He got to tag along during at least one season amongst the natives and do field work in the pits. I never read his thesis, but he did tell me a bit about the bootlegging background of the sport. Actually interesting stuff, but given its roots in the Deep South there’s always been a heavy redneck element. There are tracks outside the south. And I recall NASCAR trying to globalize doing a race in Japan when Dale Sr was still alive. His death paralleled that of Ayrton Senna for impact on motorsports. Most NASCAR tracks are oval and boring. I used to prefer Superbike races back when Duhamel was active. Now that’s poetry in motion right there.
I don’t know how many black drivers have made it anywhere in stock car racing. That’s an issue. Oh there’s this guy:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Wallace_Jr.
Danica Patrick had a decent run that brought women into the scene. Colombian Juan Pablo Montoya came from F1 and raced the redneck ovals for a bit. I don’t watch anymore after I got into F1, but thems foreigners race at funny hours which means like middle of the night here.
microraptor says
gijoel @9: Indeed.
mountainbob says
Recists? Yup! For sure. And, the drivers are athletes as well. Football players work hard for 15 seconds or less and then rest for a minute. Race drivers fight the wheel continuously for 2+ hours, and dare not often blink (they can travel 50 yards with their eyes closed during a blink, and forget about a sneeze). Drivers must have 360 degree situational awareness and lightning fast reflexes. And, they still crash and burn. Ain’t nuthin’ says you cannot be a racist and still appreciate the physical abilities of the driers, even if you’ve got too much beer or rot-gut under your belt.
ThorGoLucky says
Confederate flag wavers should ASSIMILATE or face deportation.