It’s the damnedest thing. Yiannopoulos gets invited on to Michael Voris’s reactionary Catholic show, and he accepted. I guess that tells you how desperate for attention he has become.
I tangled with Voris a few times 8 or 9 years ago — he had a YouTube channel called The Vortex (it’s now been shuffled around to the “ChurchMilitant Archives”) in which he railed against atheists, Catholics who weren’t Catholic enough, and gays, and demanded that America become a Catholic monarchy…so kind of a squirrely Bill Donohue on meth. The pairing of Voris and Yiannopoulos was unexpected, but they really hit it off and had a little lovefest online. It’s a bit like those old commercials for Reese’s — “You got peanut butter on my chocolate! No, you got chocolate on my peanut butter! Yum, it’s delicious” — only substitute shit and snot for peanut butter and chocolate, and no, I’m not going to try it to see if the combination suddenly acquires a delightful flavor.
Here, you can suffer as I did.
It begins with Yiannopoulos whining about his ‘tragic’ fall from grace. His explanation is that he got too big and too powerful
, so a leftist conspiracy was mobilized to tear him down with lies.
But who cares about Milo Yiannopoulos, anyway? The bulk of the conversation — if we can call it that, Voris only gets an occasional word in edgewise — is Milo rambling on and on about how he despises Pope Francis, but reveres the institution of the papacy, which is where he and Voris are clearly copacetic. Both think the the church is full of deviants and perverts, and that the way to fix the Catholic church is to clear out all the gay priests, although, Milo is quick to add, Leftists make way too much noise about priestly rapists, it wasn’t that bad, he got over it, the real problem is social justice warriors getting all up in arms about it. Blah blah blah. Talking fast to bury all the lies and inconsistencies.
He also comes down strongly on the nature vs nurture debate (I say there is no debate, it’s both, and you can’t untangle all the influences.) Milo strangely argues that it’s all nurture, that you can shape a child any ol’ way you want, making him the only blank-slater I’ve ever heard from.
There’s also a prolonged eruption of misogyny. Did you know that lesbians ruined everything
, that they’re all bitter divorcees and spinsters
, and that If you take god away from a woman and she’s 35 and doesn’t have a man by her side, bad things happen
, and that he’s certain that Generation Z will change everything back. He wants to see women burning their briefcases and marching in defense of motherhood
, which roused Voris to interject that that is authentic feminism, as represented by the Blessed Mother
.
The last bit of the video is the two of them going back and forth, piously declaring that they’ll pray for each other, and Milo suggesting that he might come back to the way of purity and light and Catholicism, but he needs 5 or 10 years more to have fun indulging in his degeneracy. Voris is cool with that.
Only watch on an empty stomach. Anthony Barcellos, you are a wicked man for sending me that — I’m pretty sure it was a mortal sin.
Well the Jesuits are supposed to say “Give me the child for the first seven years and I will give you the man”, so I bet his nurturism went down well.
No, thanks. That’s what I pay you for.
Take two children at birth, selected at random. Place them in identical closed environments. Allow their only contact with humanity until adulthood to be a small number of highly disciplined experimenters who believe exactly as Milo does, who take great care to ensure that both children are exposed to exactly the same interactions and ideas for two decades. During this time allow observers to watch them and finally to interview them. Does he honestly believe that the two subjects will be determined to have identical tastes, preferences and opinions during all this time?
Maybe this is how he hopes to raise the next generation of alt-rights, a Volk holding true for life to all the correct beliefs and absolute values.
»Milo suggesting that he might come back to the way of purity and light and Catholicism, but he needs 5 or 10 years more to have fun indulging in his degeneracy. Voris is cool with that.«
“Lord make me chaste. But not yet.”
Is it just an illusion or is the number of extremely unpleasant individuals in the world increasing exponentially?
nomdeplume @ 5: Personally, I don’t think so. I just think a handful of relatively recent victories (the election of Trump, the Brexit referendum, etc.) have emboldened them to be more forthright.
cat mara @6 I hope you are right, and you probably are. The internet has brought to public attention (and fame and fortune quite often) scumbags who once upon a time would have been known only in their local bar or neonazi group. Not sure this is comforting though, it suggests there always were a mass of scumbags simmering below the surface in all western countries. Still, I guess the history of the last 100 years or so tells us that anyway.
haha. A definitely took him down. After years of failures by liberals to take him down, the radical leftists at… (checks notes) Conservative Political Action Conference finally ended his ascension.
Our Leftist conspiracy must be doing very well if we’re down to harassing fifth-rate internet rent-a-gobs like Yiannopoulos. All the grown-up threats to democracy and decency must be dead and buried by now.
Jeez, but is it possible to be any more self-absorbed than Milo ?
After Yiannopoulos’ statement condoning sex between adult men and 13 years old boys, I thought he was gone forever.
I apparently do not understand how these things works. I thought the stigma was such that he was done.
How come anyone, for instance Voris, would agree to be associated with him ? Especially a pro-catholicism person. I would think they would want to stay as much a possible away from any situation that could trigger and reinforce the mental association between their church and paedophilia.
It is possible however that people immersed in catholic culture don’t see paedophilia, don’t think about it, don’t think they are associated to that.
It reminds me of a debate with Hitchens and Fry against some Catholic people, and the Catholics said at some point that they expected condoms not to be brought up by the opposite part. Of course they will be, are you nuts ? While you are at it, do you also expect the other side not to argue at all and instead concede defeat from the get-go ?
PZ, if you’re not aware of it, something tells me you will enjoy Steve Shives’ new thing, “The Whirlpool with Michael Whirly”.
Hm, there I was thinking it was his endorsement of pederasty.