Not to get all etymologically fallacious, but I don’t see why any non-atheist could object to calling the days ‘holy’!
And as Protestants (as I think most of the objectors are) shouldn’t they be avoiding reminders that its a papist mass?
Oh! And reflecting Owlmirror: where did you get the cartoon and where can we find more by the artist?
I wish I knew where the cartoon came from. I’ve been digging with Google image search, and it only leads me into the bowels of Reddit.
I was hoping someone here would recognize it and tell me, and then I’ll add the attribution.
What a Maroon, living up to the 'nymsays
@richrdelguru,
Yeah, but included in “Happy Holidays” are such heathen, godless days as Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, New Year’s Day, Saturnalia, and Boxing Day. Can’t go around promoting those days, can we?
Perhaps a better response (if Google isn’t letting me down) would be “Io Saturnalia!”
I was thinking “Black lives matter” as a response to the recent “It’s OK to be white” campaign.
In case you didn’t hear about that, some people who totally weren’t racist wanted to show that white people are systematically shamed somehow for being white, as evidenced by the fact that anti-racists get outraged when you say something innocuously supportive of white people.
It’s sad that I find MAGA woman attractive, despite the whole she supports Trump problem.
antigone10says
@timgueguen
It’s sad that you find your physiological responses relevant to this conversation at all.
@lumipuna
The “It’s OK to be white” campaign drives me up the wall. Of course it is. What’s not okay is the fact that being white gives you a whole host of privileges that non-white people don’t get. Anti-racism movements are not about you, white people.
busterggisays
I’ll stick with “Chappy Channukah” – it upsets ALL the Abrahamists.
abusedbypenguinssays
In response to “Merry Christmas” is to raise my hand with a Vulcan Salute and say “Live long and prosper”, they usually stand there thinking about it as I walk away.
Vreejacksays
MAGA. Men Are Getting Arrested?
wubbessays
I would l like to point out that here in the US we make a big deal out of Hanukkah because it occurs at around the same time as Christmas and maybe we want to show that we recognize that there are religions other than Christianity. In Israel Hanukkah is a minor holiday, sort of like Valentine’s Day in the US; they might wish someone “Hanukkah Sameach” or “Chag Sameach” (literally “Happy Holiday”) but they don’t even get the day off from work. Rosh HaShana, the new year, is the festive holiday with gift-giving and long vacations. In ancient times they would have gone to the Temple in Jerusalem, now they go to the beach in Eilat.
Owlmirror says
Source? Artist?
I’d probably boggle at the idea of a holiday being “systemically oppressed”.
“Isn’t that a category mistake?”
“You’re being a horrible scientistist who overanalyzes everything!”
monad says
Fine, since apparently you can’t enjoy both, have a merry Christmas and an awful, bitter, confused New Year’s.
a_ray_in_dilbert_space says
My favorite response to the “All Lives Matter” crowd:
All lives can’t matter until black lives matter.
richardelguru says
Not to get all etymologically fallacious, but I don’t see why any non-atheist could object to calling the days ‘holy’!
And as Protestants (as I think most of the objectors are) shouldn’t they be avoiding reminders that its a papist mass?
Oh! And reflecting Owlmirror: where did you get the cartoon and where can we find more by the artist?
PZ Myers says
I wish I knew where the cartoon came from. I’ve been digging with Google image search, and it only leads me into the bowels of Reddit.
I was hoping someone here would recognize it and tell me, and then I’ll add the attribution.
What a Maroon, living up to the 'nym says
@richrdelguru,
Yeah, but included in “Happy Holidays” are such heathen, godless days as Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, New Year’s Day, Saturnalia, and Boxing Day. Can’t go around promoting those days, can we?
Perhaps a better response (if Google isn’t letting me down) would be “Io Saturnalia!”
jwer says
https://www.instagram.com/ilex_opaca/
Tineye.com is better than Google reverse image search.
ahcuah says
@jwer.
Wow, what good stuff. Everybody really does need to go there to look it over.
Many thanks for finding that!
Let me repeat the link: https://www.instagram.com/ilex_opaca/
cherbear says
Also don’t forget the ever-popular “Dies Natalis Solis Invicti”. The only problem with that is getting a nice gold bull sculpture somewhere.
efogoto says
@9 cherbear
There’s a pretty good bronze one near Wall Street.
Stardrake says
Or just hit ’em with “ALL HOLIDAYS MATTER!!!”
Topher Kersting says
Here in Chattanooga, where most people strongly believe in the War on Christmas, I have switched from my standard “Bah, humbug!” to:
Me: “Happy Holidays!”
Them: (passive-agressively) “Merry Christmas!’
Me: “All holidays matter.”
Topher
lumipuna says
I was thinking “Black lives matter” as a response to the recent “It’s OK to be white” campaign.
In case you didn’t hear about that, some people who totally weren’t racist wanted to show that white people are systematically shamed somehow for being white, as evidenced by the fact that anti-racists get outraged when you say something innocuously supportive of white people.
timgueguen says
It’s sad that I find MAGA woman attractive, despite the whole she supports Trump problem.
antigone10 says
@timgueguen
It’s sad that you find your physiological responses relevant to this conversation at all.
@lumipuna
The “It’s OK to be white” campaign drives me up the wall. Of course it is. What’s not okay is the fact that being white gives you a whole host of privileges that non-white people don’t get. Anti-racism movements are not about you, white people.
busterggi says
I’ll stick with “Chappy Channukah” – it upsets ALL the Abrahamists.
abusedbypenguins says
In response to “Merry Christmas” is to raise my hand with a Vulcan Salute and say “Live long and prosper”, they usually stand there thinking about it as I walk away.
Vreejack says
MAGA. Men Are Getting Arrested?
wubbes says
I would l like to point out that here in the US we make a big deal out of Hanukkah because it occurs at around the same time as Christmas and maybe we want to show that we recognize that there are religions other than Christianity. In Israel Hanukkah is a minor holiday, sort of like Valentine’s Day in the US; they might wish someone “Hanukkah Sameach” or “Chag Sameach” (literally “Happy Holiday”) but they don’t even get the day off from work. Rosh HaShana, the new year, is the festive holiday with gift-giving and long vacations. In ancient times they would have gone to the Temple in Jerusalem, now they go to the beach in Eilat.