I want you to know it’s going to be okay. You aren’t dumb. You have a problem. And there is nothing tough about suffering in silence.
QFMFT.
Doug Littlesays
Why is he a weirdo?
gregpetersonsays
When I saw that Jamie was going to perform at the Reason Rally and didn’t know who he was, I downloaded a live show and thought it needed a couple of coats of polish before it was good enough for me to pay for. And then actually AT the Reason Rally, he was awesome. A unique voice, and some seriously informed bravado.
Which leads me to think that now that he’s gotten his finger on the issues, he’ll kick their asses.
I’ve seen Jamie perform here in Sydney a couple of times, and very much enjoyed his deeply layered comedy. I wish him well, and I’m glad he’s written this on such a high-traffic site so that other men can hear his message.
On a tangential note, for once (at least so far) it’s not a horrorshow in comments on a confessional piece at Jezebel. I think back to the avalanche of finger-wagging that usually ensues, but then the confessional pieces are normally written by women. Either the finger-waggers are stepping back voluntarity or Jez’s moderators are being way more effective than usual.
Wonder how long it’ll be before, “He’s doin’ it for the blog hits,” and, “Why didn’t you get help sooner if you’re a REAL ____”. Sigh.
morgansays
“I think we’re all Bozos on this bus.”
Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaidensays
OT: Josh, you got my e-mail?
Josh, Official SpokesGaysays
Crip Dyke: I did! Thank you. Did you not get my response?
morgansays
lol
I’m bummed. I haz a pout.
Nobody got my Firesign Theatre reference.
Good old hippie stuff. Guess you have to be an old hippie to appreciate it.
Be well, everyone.
anchorsays
Muzzles aimed against muzzles. Truly. It is an accurate illustration.
B-Larsays
You will stop when you’re full. You will see your old self in the shadow of the drunk guy puking his guts out. You will walk away. You are a goddamn superhero. You will help others. You will never be sick again. You will stop hating yourself, and you will be proud.
Holy Living Fuck. I just… fuck.
marcolisays
@ #10, Morgan: I got it! ‘If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.’
Memories… faded smokey hazy memories….
B-Larsays
I read it again.
Its the routine that gets you. We love habit. Especially when it tastes nice.
I have never been slapped so hard by words on the internet.
Fuck.
carliesays
Virtual hugs to you, B-Lar.
B-Larsays
Carlie, much appreciated.
The cursor icon is blinking at me and theres so much but so little and its harder than I thought it would be to type the word “problem” without punctuation.
But thats OK. Nothing is completely fucked. I am not fucked. I just need tommorrow to be the thing I promised to myself yesterday, and Jamie made today different.
I am fucking on it.
Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaidensays
OT: Josh, yes, once we established you wanted the info, I sent 2 more e-mails with that info. Did you get these? Should I resend?
rodriguezsays
Jamie if you are reading this, you are awesome.
Doug Littlesays
We’re all weirdos and in this together?
Well I guess if you put it that way, I have no problem referring to myself as a weirdo as well.
But thats OK. Nothing is completely fucked. I am not fucked. I just need tommorrow to be the thing I promised to myself yesterday, and Jamie made today different.
I am fucking on it.
All my best hopes for you, B-Lar, and you have all my support. And hugs if you want ’em.
Well I guess if you put it that way, I have no problem referring to myself as a weirdo as well.
I’m definitely a weirdo, and I’m just fine with that.
Jackie Papercutssays
Maniac threadrupt!
Some much love for Jamie, Allison and the kitties!
If you have time to listen to a podcast, I highly recommend theirs.
anchorsays
“We all have addictions. We all have obsessions. We all have things that get in the way of us living our lives. But the point of life is to fix these things. To be great. To improve every day. “
Fascinating, how somebody like that can arrive at such a beautiful and crisp thought.
One must wonder why such thinking eludes most ‘straight’ people.
dysomniak, darwinian socialistsays
Fascinating, how somebody like that can arrive at such a beautiful and crisp thought.
Somebody like “that”? Pray tell what is “that”?
carliesays
One must wonder why such thinking eludes most ‘straight’ people.
What? What does addiction have to do with being straight or not? Or do you mean straight as in “strait and narrow?”
Thumper; Immorally Inferior Sergeant Major in the Grand Gynarchy Mangina Corps (GGMC)says
You may slip up. We all slip up, but once you admit you have a problem, you have a new agenda: to get healthy. To be better. You will find other loves… You are a goddamn superhero. You will help others. You will never be sick again. You will stop hating yourself, and you will be proud.
Now that is some inspiring shit; and relevant to so much more than the subject at hand. Well done, Jamie. Well fucking done.
Thumper; Immorally Inferior Sergeant Major in the Grand Gynarchy Mangina Corps (GGMC)says
@anchor #23
Your post brought up all sorts of red flags for me :-/ I assume it’s just the phrasing, so care to elaborate?
carliesays
Thumper – yeah, anchor seems to be itching for a fight. Just not clear which one.
tcccsays
Speaking about people in the 3rd person is discouraged. It is one of new guidelines and I think a potentially really helpful one.
lumisays
I know where he’s coming from, with addiction and food issues, which are just another kind of addiction. It’s hard, especially when you’ve trained your body to purge easily – I can vomit at will, which is not a skill anyone should be proud of.
F [is for failure to emerge]says
Wow.
–
B-Lar, what ever you’re up to, more power to you.
–
carlie, Thumper: It sort of rubbed me the wrong way too, but I was taking it as “straight” as in “not doing x“, where the variable is something like drugs, and various other things to greater or lesser extents of usage. Like straight people = teetotalers frequently don’t seem to understand addictions. Also maybe straight meaning mentally OK, e.g., not negatively inebriated, calmed down or not in shock after a traumatic experience, recovered from a fit of anger, etc. (Are you straight?)
There are so many bad options for what could have been the meaning, I can’t even begin to work them out. I just sort of defaulted to my operating definitions, yet something about it still felt odd.
Cunning Pamsays
Jamie’s article brought out such contradictory feelings in me. Yes, I’m glad he’s taken the courageous stand of writing about his issues with food, and hope that it helps other people with disordered eating. But it’s still a too-common belief (which shows up in some of the comments to the piece): As long as you’re “just” eating too little, or eating too much but puking it up afterward, or eating too much but only once in a while, it’s cool. You’re thin, so you’re still worth society’s attention. There are programs out there, there’s growing recognition of the very real psychological issues people face, there’s sympathy.
But if you’re a fatty fat fatso, well, that’s just a character flaw. You’re weak. Just eat less, exercise more. It’s not hard to lose weight, you just don’t want to. You’re lazy. Eat fewer carbs. Eat less fat. Stop letting yourself go. Control your portions. Never, ever is there any consideration of the idea that hey, repeated and continuous overeating is a FUCKING EATING DISORDER!
Sorry. I’m in the last phase of the process leading up to having my guts rearranged like a macrame planter, because after 40 years of being overweight and trying everything under the sun to help that, including psychotherapy, there doesn’t seem to be anything else out there that can reliably help me or people like me. I wish that there was something in between major surgery and affirmations (like “You will stop when you’re full.”). And I’m still smarting from the outing with my family a month ago, where two people openly stared and laughed at me and my husband through our whole meal at a local restaurant. Those of us who are overweight are mocked, laughed at, dismissed, bullied, discriminated against and hurt over and over and over on a daily basis…which just makes many of us eat more. And it seems that the only thing out there that consistently helps us out of this horrible spiral is having a surgeon play cat’s cradle with our digestive tract.
I’m frustrated, sad, and ragey, yes. Sorry, again.
Caine, Fleur du mal says
:crying:
QFMFT.
Doug Little says
Why is he a weirdo?
gregpeterson says
When I saw that Jamie was going to perform at the Reason Rally and didn’t know who he was, I downloaded a live show and thought it needed a couple of coats of polish before it was good enough for me to pay for. And then actually AT the Reason Rally, he was awesome. A unique voice, and some seriously informed bravado.
Which leads me to think that now that he’s gotten his finger on the issues, he’ll kick their asses.
tigtog says
I’ve seen Jamie perform here in Sydney a couple of times, and very much enjoyed his deeply layered comedy. I wish him well, and I’m glad he’s written this on such a high-traffic site so that other men can hear his message.
On a tangential note, for once (at least so far) it’s not a horrorshow in comments on a confessional piece at Jezebel. I think back to the avalanche of finger-wagging that usually ensues, but then the confessional pieces are normally written by women. Either the finger-waggers are stepping back voluntarity or Jez’s moderators are being way more effective than usual.
Caine, Fleur du mal says
We’re all weirdos and in this together?
Josh, Official SpokesGay says
Wonder how long it’ll be before, “He’s doin’ it for the blog hits,” and, “Why didn’t you get help sooner if you’re a REAL ____”. Sigh.
morgan says
“I think we’re all Bozos on this bus.”
Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaiden says
OT: Josh, you got my e-mail?
Josh, Official SpokesGay says
Crip Dyke: I did! Thank you. Did you not get my response?
morgan says
lol
I’m bummed. I haz a pout.
Nobody got my Firesign Theatre reference.
Good old hippie stuff. Guess you have to be an old hippie to appreciate it.
Be well, everyone.
anchor says
Muzzles aimed against muzzles. Truly. It is an accurate illustration.
B-Lar says
Holy Living Fuck. I just… fuck.
marcoli says
@ #10, Morgan: I got it! ‘If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.’
Memories… faded smokey hazy memories….
B-Lar says
I read it again.
Its the routine that gets you. We love habit. Especially when it tastes nice.
I have never been slapped so hard by words on the internet.
Fuck.
carlie says
Virtual hugs to you, B-Lar.
B-Lar says
Carlie, much appreciated.
The cursor icon is blinking at me and theres so much but so little and its harder than I thought it would be to type the word “problem” without punctuation.
But thats OK. Nothing is completely fucked. I am not fucked. I just need tommorrow to be the thing I promised to myself yesterday, and Jamie made today different.
I am fucking on it.
Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaiden says
OT: Josh, yes, once we established you wanted the info, I sent 2 more e-mails with that info. Did you get these? Should I resend?
rodriguez says
Jamie if you are reading this, you are awesome.
Doug Little says
Well I guess if you put it that way, I have no problem referring to myself as a weirdo as well.
Caine, Fleur du mal says
B-Lar:
All my best hopes for you, B-Lar, and you have all my support. And hugs if you want ’em.
Caine, Fleur du mal says
Doug:
I’m definitely a weirdo, and I’m just fine with that.
Jackie Papercuts says
Maniac threadrupt!
Some much love for Jamie, Allison and the kitties!
If you have time to listen to a podcast, I highly recommend theirs.
anchor says
Fascinating, how somebody like that can arrive at such a beautiful and crisp thought.
One must wonder why such thinking eludes most ‘straight’ people.
dysomniak, darwinian socialist says
Somebody like “that”? Pray tell what is “that”?
carlie says
What? What does addiction have to do with being straight or not? Or do you mean straight as in “strait and narrow?”
Thumper; Immorally Inferior Sergeant Major in the Grand Gynarchy Mangina Corps (GGMC) says
Now that is some inspiring shit; and relevant to so much more than the subject at hand. Well done, Jamie. Well fucking done.
Thumper; Immorally Inferior Sergeant Major in the Grand Gynarchy Mangina Corps (GGMC) says
@anchor #23
Your post brought up all sorts of red flags for me :-/ I assume it’s just the phrasing, so care to elaborate?
carlie says
Thumper – yeah, anchor seems to be itching for a fight. Just not clear which one.
tccc says
Speaking about people in the 3rd person is discouraged. It is one of new guidelines and I think a potentially really helpful one.
lumi says
I know where he’s coming from, with addiction and food issues, which are just another kind of addiction. It’s hard, especially when you’ve trained your body to purge easily – I can vomit at will, which is not a skill anyone should be proud of.
F [is for failure to emerge] says
Wow.
–
B-Lar, what ever you’re up to, more power to you.
–
carlie, Thumper: It sort of rubbed me the wrong way too, but I was taking it as “straight” as in “not doing x“, where the variable is something like drugs, and various other things to greater or lesser extents of usage. Like straight people = teetotalers frequently don’t seem to understand addictions. Also maybe straight meaning mentally OK, e.g., not negatively inebriated, calmed down or not in shock after a traumatic experience, recovered from a fit of anger, etc. (Are you straight?)
There are so many bad options for what could have been the meaning, I can’t even begin to work them out. I just sort of defaulted to my operating definitions, yet something about it still felt odd.
Cunning Pam says
Jamie’s article brought out such contradictory feelings in me. Yes, I’m glad he’s taken the courageous stand of writing about his issues with food, and hope that it helps other people with disordered eating. But it’s still a too-common belief (which shows up in some of the comments to the piece): As long as you’re “just” eating too little, or eating too much but puking it up afterward, or eating too much but only once in a while, it’s cool. You’re thin, so you’re still worth society’s attention. There are programs out there, there’s growing recognition of the very real psychological issues people face, there’s sympathy.
But if you’re a fatty fat fatso, well, that’s just a character flaw. You’re weak. Just eat less, exercise more. It’s not hard to lose weight, you just don’t want to. You’re lazy. Eat fewer carbs. Eat less fat. Stop letting yourself go. Control your portions. Never, ever is there any consideration of the idea that hey, repeated and continuous overeating is a FUCKING EATING DISORDER!
Sorry. I’m in the last phase of the process leading up to having my guts rearranged like a macrame planter, because after 40 years of being overweight and trying everything under the sun to help that, including psychotherapy, there doesn’t seem to be anything else out there that can reliably help me or people like me. I wish that there was something in between major surgery and affirmations (like “You will stop when you’re full.”). And I’m still smarting from the outing with my family a month ago, where two people openly stared and laughed at me and my husband through our whole meal at a local restaurant. Those of us who are overweight are mocked, laughed at, dismissed, bullied, discriminated against and hurt over and over and over on a daily basis…which just makes many of us eat more. And it seems that the only thing out there that consistently helps us out of this horrible spiral is having a surgeon play cat’s cradle with our digestive tract.
I’m frustrated, sad, and ragey, yes. Sorry, again.