The first thing I thought of when I saw that was Cassandra from Doctor Who, then I clicked on the link, and lo and behold, they made the same connection.
It lives in water, but does it need to be moisturized?
Mattsays
There’s a lot of cuteness in nature… just another reminder of how wonderful it all is.
A good read: Keep this in mind on your dive. Sunscreen wipes out corals Published online 29 January 2008 | Nature | doi:10.1038/news.2008.537 Study shows how chemicals can kill symbiotic algae. Susan Brown Keep the waters clean: divers are recommended not to use sunscreen. Sunscreen can bleach coral reefs, researchers have confirmed. The chemicals that filter ultraviolet (UV) light can activate latent viral infections in the symbiotic microalgae that the corals rely on for nutrition. Many divers are already warned not to wear sunscreen near corals, but usually for the general reason that introducing foreign chemicals into the water is a bad idea. The new study puts some scientific evidence behind this precautionary approach.
BTW just for the record I never wear sunscreen on the water, that’s what a full wetsuit is for. Oh, and even 85 degree water will give you hypothermia if you stay in it long enough.
Holbachsays
Really, do I look intelligent designed? Come on, you can
be honest with me! Do you want to see a trick? I’ll
contort my features a little and appear as the wackos god
and just send them yelling that the rapture has come!
What a bunch of freaking morons you humans are, when you
consider that I lived before you!
I don’t know PZ. Normally, I’m with you, but I vaguely recall some singing CGI version of that critter that gave me the jibblies.
Ichthyicsays
Ooh, that’s too much cute for me. Why can’t creos be this cute? Or at the very least submerged in brine?
it wouldn’t help.
zombies don’t need to breathe, remember?
Bride of Shreksays
Oh yeah, its really cute and all but…is it edible? I’ve always wanted to be the first to ask that.
foxfiresays
Oh so cute! I can see where neoteny might be advantageous, from an evolutionary perspective.
Ichthyicsays
is it edible
probably.
many ray species are used as “fake crab” or “fake scallops”. a hole punch is used to remove bite-sized circular sections of the wings (pectoral fins) which can then be prepared in recipes that normally would use scallops or crab.
not knowing the exact species, can’t say for sure, but CA thornback rays are most certainly edible.
Okay, PZ. Admit it. You totally got this off of cuteoverload.com.
October Mermaidsays
Can we keep it? I wanna name it Jenny Haniver!
Carliesays
It is a well-known fact that the cuteness is there as a decoy to bait the unsuspecting. In much the same way an anglerfish lures its prey towards its mouth, the first person who says “Oooohhhcutewiddlerayfish” and reaches out to pinch its cute little cheeks is going to have a hand bitten off.
Don’t ever trust the cute ones.
woowoozysays
Carlie’s right. Just ask Roland Deschain about how cute the little lobster things were. (Reference: Dark Tower, Stephen King)
KiwiInOzsays
Posted by: Ichthyic | February 21, 2008 9:32 PM
Yeah, I get annoyed when I order scallops in a restaurant, expecting a nice orange roe, etc, and I get cookie cutter ray flaps!
Ichthyicsays
yeah, I see that a lot.
still, when done right, they aren’t half bad.
of course, the problem is that all elasmos have such long breeding schedules that they are horrible choices for commercial fisheries, and most fished species are in trouble at this point, sharks and rays included.
Ichthyicsays
…how’s deadman, btw?
I gotta send out some emails to catch up.
cheers
Kseniyasays
Yup. Carlie is right. This phenomenon radiates in many directions. In the world of animé and manga, the cutest creatures are often the most evil and deadly.
Morgansays
Oh yeah, its really cute and all but…is it edible?
I feel obliged to use this line the next time I’m shown, eg, a newborn baby.
Erm… I don’t know, Kseniya. :) As a voice actress for ADV films who has had an awful lot of animé shoved down her throat, I would say the cuteness:evil ratio is pretty low. Almost every show has a superadorablecuddly mascot. And every single one I can think of, while some are very powerful (Ryo-Ohki’s spaceship metamorphosis, to name one example), few I can think of were ever “evil”, or even bad.
Even Pokémon are never evil — just fighting for the bad guys. ;3
Can you give me an example of a “surprise evil” cute creature from animé? All I can think of is the freaky giant baby from Spirited Away. And he wasn’t really cute. Compare him to the little fuzzballs from earlier in the film — no contest.
Torbjörn Larsson, OMsays
Why can’t creos be this cute? Or at the very least submerged in brine?
AWWWWWWW! And they say dolphins are sweet (although personally I never trust any animal that smiles all the time)
Kseniya said:
This phenomenon radiates in many directions. In the world of animé and manga, the cutest creatures are often the most evil and deadly.
Excellent, so when it grows up we can feed it on the creationist zombies that drowning in brine failed to destroy (I know the undead can rise from the grave, but have they ever managed it from the ray?).
I have seen the Splendid Cozumel Toadfish and even the Ruby Lipped Batfish, but this critter takes the cake in odd. Amazing!!! I have never seen bio diversity like what can be found in the marine environments.
OK PZ, I give, what the hell is it?
I should send you some of my underwater photographs, I do have few prize win shots that are worthy (at least in my opinion).
Unfortunately, I live on the Great Lakes and the marine life is no where as interesting as what is found in the Oceans of the world, that is if you can find it. The most interesting thing we have are shipwrecks, which I happen to love as well.
Totally cute, even thought it’s a neoteny effect (thanks, Foxfire).
BTW, rays are totally awesome in motion. Two years back I encountered a squadron of them off Hatteras island (NC). Zoom!
Ichthyic: How can one tell whether the “scallops” are actually scallops? Any idea about the label “sea scallops” I see on some menus?
JimboBsays
Aww it’s so cute! I must capture it.
*Throws Pokéball*
Ranger Jaysays
I’ll bet it’s one of those things that’ll bite your face off when you lean in to pet it…
Kathrynsays
@Bureaucratus Minimis
You can tell a scallop from a cookie cutter piece of ray by looking at the direction the muscle fibers run. A scallop is the adductor muscle of a clam so it has to pull/hold the shell closed. So the muscle fibers run top to bottom in your piece of food. If it is ray the fibers will run side to side. So in fake scallops the layers will peel apart like a flaky biscuit.
Mike from Ottawasays
I’m using a cropped version of that as my avatar on another forum. I figure the cuteness will be a nice contrast with my snarkiness.
Ichthyicsays
Ichthyic: How can one tell whether the “scallops” are actually scallops? Any idea about the label “sea scallops” I see on some menus?
by and large, there is no way (especially if they are mixed in with a heavy sauce).
Typically a good restaurant will tell you if you ask.
However, typically if it’s a good restaurant, they would be using real scallops anyway.
not saying that ray is bad, it isn’t, but it isn’t scallops or crab, either.
I’ve seen many examples of various species of elasmobranchs being marketed as something else, for example “whitefish” can be various species of shark meat.
also, dogfish and other small species of sharks are often used as meat in “fish and chips”.
there has been a movement in the US for more honesty in labeling, but there appears to be little effort to try and straighten out the mess in the seafood markets.
Jamessays
As you can see, it has been intelligently designed by the Flying Spaghetti Monster for humans to marvel at its cuteness.
David Marjanović, OMsays
not saying that ray is bad
Sure it’s bad. I’ve eaten ray wing — fibrous and slimy at the same time. Demonstrates the fact that teleosts (ordinary fish) are closer to chicken and beef than to ray.
David Marjanović, OMsays
not saying that ray is bad
Sure it’s bad. I’ve eaten ray wing — fibrous and slimy at the same time. Demonstrates the fact that teleosts (ordinary fish) are closer to chicken and beef than to ray.
It is, however, not a ray. It’s a skate, which is a close relative, but it’s not the same thing. A key distinction is that skates lay eggs (“mermaid’s purses”), while rays give live birth. They are ovoviviparous – the eggs hatch while they are still inside the mother.
Their behavior is also extremely cute. At the aquarium where I used to work, the rays and skates would both regularly spy-hop to check out their surroundings. Sometimes the rays would get so enthusiastic about it that they’d flap and flap and flap, and then fall over backwards.
Is that the Virgin Mary I see on his tummy?
The first thing I thought of when I saw that was Cassandra from Doctor Who, then I clicked on the link, and lo and behold, they made the same connection.
It lives in water, but does it need to be moisturized?
There’s a lot of cuteness in nature… just another reminder of how wonderful it all is.
Those are nostrils.
Which kind of kills some of the cute buzz.
Ooh, that’s too much cute for me. Why can’t creos be this cute? Or at the very least submerged in brine?
Here’s another excuse: I no longer have to read “Ken Ham’s New Book” when I open your blog.
Now that is what life ia all about.
But it’s sooo cartilaginous!
On a more serious note a small victory for Florida’s threatened coral reefs. See some good things do happen here.
http://www.keynoter.com/articles/2008/02/09/news/news16.txt
It’s frickin gross is what it is.
Ironically I just got this email from my dive club, http://www.kayuba.org
BTW just for the record I never wear sunscreen on the water, that’s what a full wetsuit is for. Oh, and even 85 degree water will give you hypothermia if you stay in it long enough.
Really, do I look intelligent designed? Come on, you can
be honest with me! Do you want to see a trick? I’ll
contort my features a little and appear as the wackos god
and just send them yelling that the rapture has come!
What a bunch of freaking morons you humans are, when you
consider that I lived before you!
aaawwwww… it’s a precious baby… thing!
Come on, all together now…
AWWWWWWWWWW!
I herd u liek mudkips?
Just kidding, but that is the cutest thing under the sea that ever came from the Chondrichthyes line!
Those may be nostrils–but I still totally want one. It’ll go with the Flamboyant Cuttlefish my roommate and I want!
I don’t know PZ. Normally, I’m with you, but I vaguely recall some singing CGI version of that critter that gave me the jibblies.
Ooh, that’s too much cute for me. Why can’t creos be this cute? Or at the very least submerged in brine?
it wouldn’t help.
zombies don’t need to breathe, remember?
Oh yeah, its really cute and all but…is it edible? I’ve always wanted to be the first to ask that.
Oh so cute! I can see where neoteny might be advantageous, from an evolutionary perspective.
is it edible
probably.
many ray species are used as “fake crab” or “fake scallops”. a hole punch is used to remove bite-sized circular sections of the wings (pectoral fins) which can then be prepared in recipes that normally would use scallops or crab.
not knowing the exact species, can’t say for sure, but CA thornback rays are most certainly edible.
PZ, I ran across a wee story that I think you’ll like: http://www.birdandmoon.com/55words/story11.html
“Sure, they’re cute now, but in a second they’re gonna get mean, and they’re gonna get ugly somehow, and there’s gonna be a million more of them.”
Okay, PZ. Admit it. You totally got this off of cuteoverload.com.
Can we keep it? I wanna name it Jenny Haniver!
It is a well-known fact that the cuteness is there as a decoy to bait the unsuspecting. In much the same way an anglerfish lures its prey towards its mouth, the first person who says “Oooohhhcutewiddlerayfish” and reaches out to pinch its cute little cheeks is going to have a hand bitten off.
Don’t ever trust the cute ones.
Carlie’s right. Just ask Roland Deschain about how cute the little lobster things were. (Reference: Dark Tower, Stephen King)
Posted by: Ichthyic | February 21, 2008 9:32 PM
Yeah, I get annoyed when I order scallops in a restaurant, expecting a nice orange roe, etc, and I get cookie cutter ray flaps!
yeah, I see that a lot.
still, when done right, they aren’t half bad.
of course, the problem is that all elasmos have such long breeding schedules that they are horrible choices for commercial fisheries, and most fished species are in trouble at this point, sharks and rays included.
…how’s deadman, btw?
I gotta send out some emails to catch up.
cheers
Yup. Carlie is right. This phenomenon radiates in many directions. In the world of animé and manga, the cutest creatures are often the most evil and deadly.
I feel obliged to use this line the next time I’m shown, eg, a newborn baby.
#26, the proper term is lobstrosities.
Erm… I don’t know, Kseniya. :) As a voice actress for ADV films who has had an awful lot of animé shoved down her throat, I would say the cuteness:evil ratio is pretty low. Almost every show has a superadorablecuddly mascot. And every single one I can think of, while some are very powerful (Ryo-Ohki’s spaceship metamorphosis, to name one example), few I can think of were ever “evil”, or even bad.
Even Pokémon are never evil — just fighting for the bad guys. ;3
Can you give me an example of a “surprise evil” cute creature from animé? All I can think of is the freaky giant baby from Spirited Away. And he wasn’t really cute. Compare him to the little fuzzballs from earlier in the film — no contest.
Why, isn’t pickled creo tasty enough for you?
Then you need to make a few visits elsewhere, because that seems to be what Pharyngula usually serves out.
Why, isn’t pickled creo tasty enough for you?
Then you need to make a few visits elsewhere, because that seems to be what Pharyngula usually serves out.
AWWWWWWW! And they say dolphins are sweet (although personally I never trust any animal that smiles all the time)
Kseniya said:
Excellent, so when it grows up we can feed it on the creationist zombies that drowning in brine failed to destroy (I know the undead can rise from the grave, but have they ever managed it from the ray?).
You don’t even need “cute” or “marine”!
I have seen the Splendid Cozumel Toadfish and even the Ruby Lipped Batfish, but this critter takes the cake in odd. Amazing!!! I have never seen bio diversity like what can be found in the marine environments.
OK PZ, I give, what the hell is it?
I should send you some of my underwater photographs, I do have few prize win shots that are worthy (at least in my opinion).
Unfortunately, I live on the Great Lakes and the marine life is no where as interesting as what is found in the Oceans of the world, that is if you can find it. The most interesting thing we have are shipwrecks, which I happen to love as well.
It looks like a Ray or Skate of some variety, but I rarely get to see them from this vantage point. Opps I see there is an article link, DOH!
Aaahhh, Thornback Ray. Neat. Very different from the ones we see in the Caribbean Seas
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/aquarium/pages/thornbackray.html
Totally cute, even thought it’s a neoteny effect (thanks, Foxfire).
BTW, rays are totally awesome in motion. Two years back I encountered a squadron of them off Hatteras island (NC). Zoom!
Ichthyic: How can one tell whether the “scallops” are actually scallops? Any idea about the label “sea scallops” I see on some menus?
Aww it’s so cute! I must capture it.
*Throws Pokéball*
I’ll bet it’s one of those things that’ll bite your face off when you lean in to pet it…
@Bureaucratus Minimis
You can tell a scallop from a cookie cutter piece of ray by looking at the direction the muscle fibers run. A scallop is the adductor muscle of a clam so it has to pull/hold the shell closed. So the muscle fibers run top to bottom in your piece of food. If it is ray the fibers will run side to side. So in fake scallops the layers will peel apart like a flaky biscuit.
I’m using a cropped version of that as my avatar on another forum. I figure the cuteness will be a nice contrast with my snarkiness.
Ichthyic: How can one tell whether the “scallops” are actually scallops? Any idea about the label “sea scallops” I see on some menus?
by and large, there is no way (especially if they are mixed in with a heavy sauce).
Typically a good restaurant will tell you if you ask.
However, typically if it’s a good restaurant, they would be using real scallops anyway.
not saying that ray is bad, it isn’t, but it isn’t scallops or crab, either.
I’ve seen many examples of various species of elasmobranchs being marketed as something else, for example “whitefish” can be various species of shark meat.
also, dogfish and other small species of sharks are often used as meat in “fish and chips”.
there has been a movement in the US for more honesty in labeling, but there appears to be little effort to try and straighten out the mess in the seafood markets.
As you can see, it has been intelligently designed by the Flying Spaghetti Monster for humans to marvel at its cuteness.
Sure it’s bad. I’ve eaten ray wing — fibrous and slimy at the same time. Demonstrates the fact that teleosts (ordinary fish) are closer to chicken and beef than to ray.
Sure it’s bad. I’ve eaten ray wing — fibrous and slimy at the same time. Demonstrates the fact that teleosts (ordinary fish) are closer to chicken and beef than to ray.
Reminds me of the aliens at the end of Abyss.
It is totally cute!
It is, however, not a ray. It’s a skate, which is a close relative, but it’s not the same thing. A key distinction is that skates lay eggs (“mermaid’s purses”), while rays give live birth. They are ovoviviparous – the eggs hatch while they are still inside the mother.
Their behavior is also extremely cute. At the aquarium where I used to work, the rays and skates would both regularly spy-hop to check out their surroundings. Sometimes the rays would get so enthusiastic about it that they’d flap and flap and flap, and then fall over backwards.