Most people are aware of the Sutherland Springs, Texas shooting. The man who did the shooting, Devin Kelley, had been discharged from the USAF for domestic violence against his wife and child. After the court martial and a brief amount of prison time (1 year), Kelley was given a bad conduct discharge, which allowed for him to still own and purchase guns. A dishonorable discharge would have barred him from owning or purchasing guns.
Domestic violence and guns are deeply intertwined in America. The reason that at least one sensible restriction against gun ownership cannot be enacted, domestic violence conviction – no guns, is because it would strip too many cops of the right to carry a gun. The gun madness in this country is deep, and I don’t know how in the hell we can stop it, let alone change it. Especially when we have the Idiot King saying that more guns are needed, yes, more, more! The fucking idiot also went on to tar all people with mental illness, saying the shooter was deeply mentally ill. He wasn’t, he was angry. The Tiny Tyrant is tweeting this utter crap from Japan, a country with very strict gun control, and guess what? Hardly any gun deaths at all:
In 2014 there were just six gun deaths in Japan, while there were 33,599 in the United States.
I’ll just let that sit there.
In the meantime, a Fox Idiot said church is the ideal place to be shot dead:
Fox News host Ainsley Earhardt asserted on Monday that the dozens of people killed at a church in Sutherland Springs, Texas had gone to the right place to be shot because they were close to Jesus at the time of their death.
Constance Reader says
“…which allowed for him to still own and purchase guns.”
This is incorrect, he applied for a carry permit in Texas and was denied (you *really* have to be a fuckup to get denied a gun license in Texas). Authorities are still trying to figure out how he obtained the gun.
chigau (違う) says
Mother Teresa would be proud.
Caine says
@1: The condition is about the specific discharge from the AF. Bad conduct allows for guns; a dishonorable does not. The Daily Beast article also includes Kelley’s tweet about his ‘bad bitch’, which was the gun he used.
lumipuna says
Just don’t ask what he called his ex-wife.
timgueguen says
If a cop has been convicted of domestic violence maybe he shouldn’t be a cop. After all one of the things cops get regularly called for is incidents of domestic violence. I’m pretty sure they won’t let you be a cop if you’ve done something like rob banks, so why should domestic violence be any different?
busterggi says
He may have been dishonorably discharged but you can’t say the military didn’t teach him to kill well.
Curious Digressions says
You can’t *ban* guns just because a guy beats his wife. That’s taking away both is god-given right to both guns and chicks he already owns.
This is sarcasm. Unfortunately, it’s also the way too many people, including cops, think. If a person firmly believes that a guy has property rights to his wife and kids, he’ll feel free to shoot or beat them. If they’re not available… well, I guess he’ll just have to extend his rights a little bit more.
Marcus Ranum says
Whenever I comment on FB or Twitter regarding guns someone inevitably asks “what do you suggest, smarty pants?”
Having actually made a suggestion (which I think was pretty good) it didn’t take me long to realize that it’s just deflection. They won’t accept any suggestion that means any change from the status quo. It’s a really transparent rhetorical trick.