What Is It About Wisconsin?


Rep. Glenn Grothman (YouTube).

Rep. Glenn Grothman (YouTube).

Scott Walker, Paul Ryan, Glenn Grothman…is there some pool deep in the wilds of Wisconsin that tosses out empathy-devoid politicians? Grothman has decided that it is very necessary to cut federal aid to students because … goodies. Yep, goodies.

Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI) complained Tuesday during a congressional hearing that low-income students are spending their Pell Grant funds on commercial goods that he deems unnecessary, reported Inside Higher Ed.

“I know in many ways in this country we hate the middle class,” Grothman said. “We love the rich, we love the poor and we hate the middle class.

Wait, wait, wait, wait. “We” love the poor? Since when has anyone or anything rethuglican demonstrated a love for poor people? The constant efforts to strip every teensy safety net is love? Yeah, definitely Nineteen Eighty-Four here.

People wonder why — sometimes they use the Pell Grants, too, for goodies and electronics, and they resent the fact that by doing it right, their kids are penalized.”

Uh, most middle class kids have all the goodies and electronics, y’know. I realize it’s probably been a hundred or so years since Mr. Grothman has seen the inside of a classroom, but these days, it’s rather important to have those goodies and electronics. Things do change over the years, sir. I’m still a bit at a loss over just what constitutes “goodies”. Computers and phones are pretty much standard equipment these days, and quite necessary in pursuit of your education.

Grothman complained that poor students were given grant aid that he believes is largely subsidized by the middle class, and he said those taxpayers are resentful that their own children must take out loans to pay for their education.

He “believes”? How about some evidence? That would be good. You aren’t supposed to govern based on your opinion.

“People get tired of the American government hating the middle class, and they have to kick in for their kids’ programs, so their (own) kids have to take out loans,” Grothman said. “Well, the kids from some other families seem to get things for free.”

Oh gods. Yet another fucking idiot who doesn’t have the slightest idea of how things work, or just how damn difficult it is for kids in poverty to attain college, or how hard you have to work to get a grant in the first bloody place. No recognition of all those kids who don’t make the cut for a grant, either. Of course, if America was the kind of country that actually gave a shit about its citizens, an education wouldn’t cost much, if anything, at all. Other countries have such a system, and they have smart, happy, productive people. Oh, but that would be socialist, oh no! And yes, to fund such a system, you have to pay taxes, but it is to the benefit of everyone. Here in Amerikka, if the bloated military budget was brought down to be in line with most other countries, you wouldn’t even have to raise taxes by much. You could educate a whole lot of peoples with that money. This would also mean completely overhauling the fucked up college system here, too. Much better to just make sure poor kids can’t ever get in.

He suggested first-year students should be ineligible for Pell Grants so the government was not “wasting money” on students who won’t graduate.

“At least have, for your freshman year, have the kids who aren’t in the middle class take out loans like the kids in the middle class already have to,” Grothman said. “That way you could make sure that everybody was going to college after are more serious about college. Do you think that would be a fair thing to do?”

No, I don’t think that’s fair at all. No one should have to go into debt to get a fucking education. That is something a government should provide. Insisting poverty ridden students get into equal debt of their middle class peers is not fair. And why do I have this feeling that what you really mean by “students who won’t graduate” are women, who are only in college to husband hunt, because of course they don’t want an education, no.

Grothman also claimed he had “anecdotal evidence” that Pell Grants, which are allocated based on financial need, discourage students from getting married so their income remained low enough to qualify for aid.

“If you don’t get married, of course, it’s easier to remain in poverty and not get Pell Grants,” he said. “I’ve heard it from several people.”

AAUUUUGGH NO NO NO. That’s it – it’s more than obvious Grothman had no fucking education whatsoever, and any fucking idiot who uses anecdotal evidence as if it means something – that should immediately disqualify you from the job. What. A. Fucking. Idiot.

Via Raw Story.

Comments

  1. says

    Grothman appears to be unnecessary, too.

    I’m endlessly amazed by how selflessly some people concern themselves with the interests of complete strangers. It’s not enough for an ageing, rich, well-fed white guy to sit back and pop the cork on a good bottle of wine and enjoy his sunset years -- he’s got to worry that some other poor slob might also want to do the exact same thing. Or maybe the other poor slob is just trying to enjoy a decent life. Can’t have that.

  2. says

    Pell Grants, which are allocated based on financial need, discourage students from getting married so their income remained low enough to qualify for aid.

    Apparently he hasn’t been able to think this through. It’s what’s called a “perverse incentive.” By creating a maze of benefits and punishments around the state of marriage, he encourages some people not to get married, and others to want to get married. If he’s complaining about students not wanting to get married so as to keep their incomes low, he’s complaining that (if that disincentive is removed) he’d be encouraging gay marriage. (Cue: thunder crashes and distant lightning)

  3. says

    “is there some pool deep in the wilds of Wisconsin that tosses out empathy-devoid politicians?”

    That’s as good a theory as any. It wasn’t always like this, but it’s hard to remember when it wasn’t.

  4. says

    I Have Forgiven Jesus:

    That’s as good a theory as any. It wasn’t always like this, but it’s hard to remember when it wasn’t.

    Well, you’re not alone. I am pretty sure it’s always been that bad here in nDakota, but it’s gotten worse.

  5. Pierce R. Butler says

    …is there some pool deep in the wilds of Wisconsin that tosses out empathy-devoid politicians?

    It seems Tailgunner Joe McCarthy spread his genes more widely than we knew.

  6. Knabb says

    The fucking chutzpah involved in operating for a party that has repeatedly cut funding to universities then complaining about how the middle class is upset about having to take out loans is ridiculous. Maybe if tuition prices weren’t skyrocketing, said loans wouldn’t be necessary, but no, that part of the analysis is just entirely removed.

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