Harris-Walz media strategy


If you follow political news, there have been some criticisms from some of those in the pundit class (even those considered to be Democratic supporters) about the paucity of media interviews given by the Harris-Walz team. Some of this is self-interested. They like to portray themselves as at least partly above the partisan fray and in trying to appear even-handed, they look for things to criticize and this is one of them. Other popular topics are her alleged lack of specifics about her proposals and how she will pay for them.

Noteworthy is the fact that creepy Donald Trump seems to get a pass on all these things. It is as if he is so out there, that there is no point in even trying to find fault with him or, if they do, it is to indulge in ‘both siderism’. A good example is this exchange between a so-called conservative Bret Stephens and a so-called liberal Gail Collins, two columnists for the New York Times.

Gail: Bret, this is about the time that I should be asking you to admit you’ll vote for Harris in November.

Bret: I’m still where I was last week: waiting for Harris to persuade me to vote for her. What’s wrong with asking her to sit down for a one-on-one interview with a serious journalist who will ask some tough but reasonable questions about urgent public policy matters? The same, of course, should be done with Trump.

Gail: You know I’m not gonna tell you that Harris is doing enough serious interviews with national reporters. She’s not. Neither, obviously, is Trump, but we have a right to hold her to a higher standard.

So there we have the familiar complaint that Harris needs to do more ‘serious’ interviews’ and astonishingly, that they “have a right to hold her to a higher standard” than creepy Trump. Really? Why?

This explanation of this attitude makes sense to me.

That brings us to what we really want to talk about, which is Harris' media strategy. We had an item yesterday covering all the carping from Democrats that Harris isn't doing enough press. For example, Obama-era operative David Axelrod has felt free to share his many criticisms of her approach. We must admit, whenever Axelrod opens his mouth, we are reminded of the line from the movie The American President: “It occurs to me that in 25 years I’ve never seen your name on a ballot.”

In any case, we have a couple of thoughts about Harris’ approach. The first is that we actually see some merit in the course that Harris is pursuing. That is to say, if you do a bunch of media in August or September, you’re probably not going to accomplish much, since the low-information/persuadable voters probably aren’t paying attention yet. Meanwhile, you run the risk of overexposing yourself or, more significantly, saying something damaging that lingers. Think “childless cat ladies,” for example. It may very well be best to save your bullets for the home stretch.

On top of that, when people like Axelrod say that Harris isn’t doing enough media, they really mean she isn’t doing enough traditional media. The seasoned vets tend to turn their noses up at anything that isn’t one of the big three broadcast networks, the big three cable news networks, the Sunday morning shows, The New York Times, The Washington Post or The Well Street Journal.

The truth is, Harris actually has done a fair bit of traditional media. She was on CBS yesterday, and has also had hits on two of the big three cable news networks (all but Fox), and has already sat down with both the Times and the Post.

Meanwhile, the candidate is giving a fair bit of time to podcasts and other “off the wall” options. She did the baseball podcast All the Smoke last week. As we noted in yesterday’s item, she did the Call Her Daddy podcast over the weekend. For those who are unfamiliar, that is the second most downloaded podcast in America. Host Alex Cooper, who is basically a female version of Howard Stern, has 5 million listeners, nearly all of them women. Speaking of Stern, who has 10 million listeners, three-quarters of them between 25 and 54 years of age, Harris will be sitting down with him this morning. She’s also got a town hall with Univision later this week, along with appearances on The View and Late Night with Stephen Colbert.

It seems pretty obvious to us what’s going on here. The people who follow the traditional media? They are largely high-information voters, and most of them have presumably made up their minds as to how they are voting. So, Harris is going to where the low-information voters are. She connects with 5 million of them here, 10 milion of them there, then adds another 3 million (Colbert), and another 2.5 million (The View). The David Axelrods of the world might not like it, but it sure looks pretty shrewd to us.

The media world is much broader than it was a decade ago. Much of it is invisible to people like me who tend to follow legacy media. If the Harris-Walz campaign is going after those new niches, then that is a good thing.

Comments

  1. seachange says

    It isn’t just an evil moral standard that isn’t applied to the creepy sex abuser felon weasel. The traditional media is who is sanewashing Trump. The traditional media is who is owned by fabulously wealthy people who donate money to Trump and alter the editorial content of their organizations to suck his tiny malformed dick.

    Why should she even try to (metaphorically) be all sweet on them, however desperate they want her to be, just so that they can dis her about it later?

    Being a President means knowing what matters so you can make the right decisions. She knows what matters.

  2. outis says

    “… we have a right to hold her to a higher standard”, I would have flipped the table right there and then.
    Basically, this is a whole society giving a comfortable pass to a demented pervert and insurrectionist, while trying to trip up the only credible candidate.
    “Suicidal” does not come close to describing it.

  3. moarscienceplz says

    “. . . we have a right to hold her to a higher standard.”
    In other words, Harris is the only sane option, so what are you all bellyaching about?
    * * *
    I am old enough to remember when some pundits gave credit to Nixon’s “Sock it to me?!?!” appearance on NBC’s ‘Laugh In’ TV show to humanize him, and the consensus today is that Harris’s strength lies in younger people who tend to not turn out to vote as much as their parents and grandparents, so this is probably a wise course. I am a bit amazed that she chose to appear on Howard Stern’s show, but maybe he is today’s equivalent to getting interviewed by Playboy magazine back in the ’70s and ’80s.

  4. John Morales says

    Related story at Slate: https://slate.com/life/2024/10/kamala-harris-interview-call-her-daddy-podcast-alex-cooper.html

    It begins thus (hyperlinks elided):

    In a perfect world, Kamala Harris would never have to encounter the phrase “Daddy Gang.” Sadly, that is not the world we live in, because the woman running to be the first female president of the United States has now appeared on an episode of the podcast Call Her Daddy, which was released Sunday. Fans of the podcast, hosted by Alex Cooper, are known as the Daddy Gang, and Harris wants their votes. “I urge all the Daddy Gang, don’t hear ‘no,’ just don’t hear it,” Harris said at one point during the episode, as I felt a little life leave my body.

    How did we slip into a timeline where a presidential candidate is speaking directly to the Daddy Gang? When the news broke last week that Harris would appear on the podcast, it raised eyebrows, especially because she has faced criticism for not doing more interviews this election cycle. (The vice president is planning a media blitz this week, with appearances on 60 Minutes, The Howard Stern Show, and others.) But it also made a certain amount of sense: Call Her Daddy is one of the most popular podcasts around, second only to Joe Rogan on Spotify, with a high listenership among young women especially. If Harris wants to reach young female voters, this is a way to do it.

  5. Tethys says

    Oddly enough, I don’t care what anyone at the NYT thinks since they are terrible at journalism and their newspaper is trash for old people like…David Axelrod. (Someone who really should keep his old white man opinions to himself since he isn’t relevant)
    Maybe they should get some new standards that are less sexist and racist?

    I wonder if those so called journalists noticed that their reporting is so biased that they are literally boasting of double standards?

  6. EigenSprocketUK says

    Serious journalists prefer to write about the sane points of intellectual debate.
    It’s that or write about wrestling with a pig.
    But there’s none left of those rational points of debate, so they prefer to write about intra-party machinations and scuttlebutt than to write about wrestling with a pig.
    But there’s none of those left. So serious writers prefer to analyse strategic approaches with reference to comparable historic campaigns than to write about wrestling with a pig.
    But there’s nothing comparable remaining. So it’s doing her fashion choices as a distraction from having to admit that they are hiding from the ignominy of writing about wrestling with a pig.
    Oh look, someone important broke wind on Air Force Two: Good! Spike that story about wrestling with a pig!

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