ICE is spending hundreds of millions of dollars to buy up industrial warehouses all around the country. These are planned concentration camps.
Among the proposals for these camps is the construction of biohazard incinerators.
The one in Minnesota, in Shakopee, has been blocked so far by community activism. That one was a bit surprising: Shakopee is mainly known for Valleyfair, a seasonal amusement park, and the Minnesota Renaissance Fair. It would have kind of wrecked the family weekend if the kids had to deal with smoke from the crematorium drifting over the celebration.
We’re one short step away from building ICE death camps.
This is one bad “Oh Shit!” moment.
I assume most here are familiar with the story of the Irish citizen that is in the US legally and is being held in a private prison despite the courts ordering his release.
They are not even pretending anymore.
Birger, the claim about “the courts ordering his release” was superseded.
cf. https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2026/02/11/irishman-detained-in-texas-overstayed-90-day-visitors-visa-issued-in-2009/
“They are not even pretending anymore.”
You are not keeping up.
There is a lot of things wrong with this ICE plan.
Two of many.
.1. Warehouses are not designed to house hundreds or thousands of people.
They are designed to house inanimate objects that don’t require food, shelter, waste disposal facilities, shower facilities, internet and TV connections, medical care, and educational opportunities.
This is a medical and humanitarian disaster waiting to happen.
All reports are that conditions in ICE facilities don’t meet any sort of standards for prisoners in the civilized world.
.2. This is part of a much wider plan.
It is ethnic cleansing followed by movement of the captured victims to…substandard concentration camps. What they plan after that isn’t clear but it easily could be mass killing chambers, very large crematoriums, and mass graves.
The white racists that make up the current regime, really want to turn the USA back into a white country. One that never actually even existed. They say so often and are currently spending tens of billions of dollars to get there.
Just say no.
I mean honestly I think concentration camp + ovens = death camp already
@#3 oh, well, then it’s completely acceptable he’s been held for approaching half a year in squalid conditions.
This is an example of what passes for thought among our current white racist rulers.
Elon Musk has been posting white racist messages almost every day lately.
Even for Musk, what is noteworthy is that every sentence is totally wrong.
.1. Countries don’t need a common culture to survive.
The US and many countries have large numbers of cultures and survive just fine. My Northern California culture has nothing in common with Elon Musk’s South African white racist culture. It doesn’t even have much in common with the blue collar northern Washington culture I was born into.
The USA was diverse from the very beginning, with Native Americans, Spanish, Black, and a variety of whites.
Cultures are ephemeral, changing rapidly in time and space.
.2. “Nobody dies for a multicultural economic zone.
Wrong. They do it all the time.
The Roman Republic and Empire, Holy Roman Empire, the British Empire, World War I, World War II, etc..
To take one familiar example, the USSR, made up of dozens of countries and nationalities, the British Empire faced off against the Germans, Hungarians, Austrians, Italians, and Japan in World War II.
Not exactly two common cultures killing each other here.
.3. American culture isn’t English, Scots, Irish.
The Irish were latecomers, not welcomed by many, and heavily discriminated against.
American culture is made up from many different sources and has evolved and changed rapidly through time and space ever since. These days our culture is influenced by most of the world, African, Asian, Middle Eastern, Latin American, etc..
.4. People don’t come here because we are white and have a common English, Scots, Irish culture. None of that is even true.
They come here for economic opportunities, as refugees fleeing various disasters such as war, and for a better life for them and their descendants.
Most of our current immigration isn’t even white, which is why the white racists are scared.
Musk is an idiot. He isn’t good at collecting facts and making arguments using reason.
sincarne @4, what? Pay attention!
I never ever made that claim. Tsk.
(Perhaps save your attempted sarcasm for when it’s actually appropriate)
Raven #7 – The transcription is misleading.
What they refer to here are “Scots-Irish”. These are protestant Scots (Presbyters), different from the Catholic highlanders who would come much later in the Clearances. They were generally from the lowlands, Edinburgh, Glasgow at first. But they didn’t come to America right away. They were shipped to British-controlled North Ireland first, in an attempt to get political clout against the Irish (Catholic) Natives.
Finding that not really working out too well, many then came to America to settle the south and the Appalachians, and these are the “Scots” (where they really came from) – “Irish” (where they briefly lived before giving up on that and coming here).
But they aren’t the later Catholic Scots of the Highlands (the clearances), nor the Catholic Irish (the famine).
But just like how they want ‘liberal’ Christians to vote for them to represent all ‘Christianity’, this relative minority of settlers from the Celtic Facade Atlantique have had their label used to represent later American immigrants who generally disagree with where politically those original settlers’ descendants have ended up.
It’s hard to get into the head of Special K Musk as to what he means by “English-Scotts-Irish”. White like him?
English and Scots haven’t always been on good terms. Braveheart may have taken liberties, but Scots can be a bit salty still. The green Irish are not quite miscible with English, but the orange Irish are different, being more British than Brits and loving to antagonize Catholics and form their own terror networks.
Scots-Irish as Protestant immigrants to the US should be held as distinct from Catholic Irish.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_Americans
Jackasses will wear orange on St Patrick’s Day. Try that crap in a green Irish bar in Boston.
The Troubles may have waned a bit since the 60s but Scots-Irish and Emerald Isle Irish should NOT be conflated. Try confusing an Indian and Pakistani in Britain or Korean for Japanese. Animosities still remain.
raven @4: More on that on the Infinite Thread. They don’t need a plan after that. Detention facilitates deportations by denying access to lawyers, and miserable conditions pressure people to give up. They’re rushing, cutting corners, nixing oversight, and the inhumanity that results is welcomed.
raven @7: More commentary on Musk’s wrongness here.
acroyear @9 nailed it better than I could.
My paternal grandparents were from Nova Scotia and New Brunswick. I don’t know if this means I have orange heritage. If I do I disown and repudiate it.
Also there were some French Catholics booted out of Nova Scotia (Arcadia).They are known now as Cajuns. Some Arcadians live in Maine too. This came up in an episode of Tales of the Walking Dead oddly enough.
Uggg! I meant Acadians not Arcadians, whatever that is.
Scots-Irish was also James Watson’s big mantra. There’s something deep in the racist community that idolizes that ethnic group.
But what about the Scandinavian-Americans, I have to say?
They are going to have look elsewhere in Dallas:
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immigration/2026/02/16/warehouse-owner-wont-sell-dallas-county-property-to-ice-for-migrant-detention-center/
Hemidactylus:
Acadian is the name of the French settlers in what’s now the Canadian maritimes. Say the “a” really softly and turn the “di” into a “dj” sound as is common in some acadian accents and you get something you can transliterate to cajun.
Arcadian is name of some ancient Greek group. Verrazzano used it to name what’s now the mid-Atlantic US. Champlain dropped the ‘r’ for some reason when he founded his colony in what’s now Nova Scotia.
@ Hemidactylus : Arcadians are fictional people in the centre of the Earth in this old, strange and quite good 1980’s cartoon (31 seconds) which oddly include Chinese Emperors, Democrites and, well, the title character.
Although they spell Arkadfains witha ‘k’ :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartakus_and_the_Sun_Beneath_the_Sea
Funny that no one mentions that the largest ethnic heritage in the US is German (raising my own hand). Before the two world wars, German immigrants celebrated their culture just as the Irish etc do.
Seem to remember Germany in the 1930s built a network of camps like this – the name of them is on the tip of my tongue… starts with a C…
America will have an abundant supply of camp commandants and guards, currently training as ICE agents…
Depressing that the Holocaust has been reduced to a tool used by activists to dramatize their struggles.
Oh and Arcadia is a region in Greece :
Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadia_(region)
Plus an idealised rural Utopia :
Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadia_(utopia)
As well as a plain on Mars (Arcadia planitia), several Aussie towns, quite a lot of towns in the USoA, a quarter in Odesa, a setttlement in northern Argentina, a suburb of Zimbabwe’s capital Harare, a Brewery company, a local history community publisher, a card game , a video game, a band name, the name of quite a lot of ships, the name of an extinct genus of temnospondyl amphibians, the title of a play by Tom Stoppard and more. See its wikipedia disambiguation page here :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadia
rwiess @19,
Not according to https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2023/10/2020-census-dhc-a-white-population.html
(English is the largest, German is the next largest)
While people are rightly noting the ovens with concern, the rest is far from innocuous. It’s worth remembering with the items “Certified Inventory of Evidence” and “Full-Service Laundry” that the Nazis stole the clothing and other valuables of the people they interned at their camps. All that’s missing from the list is a “Barber” to steal their hair, too, and a Tattooist. But, then, today I suppose they’d use something more high tech than ink.
ICE is already stealing from the people they pick up, but I suppose they’ll want to turn them upside-down and shake them once they get them to the camps, just to make sure they haven’t missed anything.
@21. sinuousrills : “Depressing that the Holocaust has been reduced to a tool used by activists to dramatize their struggles.”
THAT’s what you are getting out this post? You think that’s what this is? Seriously dafuck?!
It doesn’t bother you that other human beings are being warehoused in concentration camps and treated the way Trump and his kultists and ICE, etc .. are doing?
You think the comparisons to the Shoah here are overly dramatic and not deeply relevant and disturbing?
What is wrong with you?
As for ancestry…Half Danish, German, French (at least some of whom were Hugeunots), English (possibly Anglo-Irish) and that’s just the bits I know about.
As regards Arcadia… W. S. Gilbert (with music by Arthur Sullivan), in Iolanthe:
A shepherd he
From Arkady
Strephon has other…interesting…characteristics.