Worst president ever.
Mr. President, thank you. Um, the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frey, is saying that he’s actually proud to have the largest Somali community in the country. And his police chief,
he’s a fool.
Well, his police chief is also saying,
I wouldn’t be proud to have the largest Somalian. Look at their nation. Look how bad their nation is. It’s not even a nation. It’s just a people walking around killing each other. Look, uh, these Somalians have taken billions of dollars out of our country. They’ve taken billions and billions of dollars. They have a representative, Ilhan Omar, who they say married her brother. [Not true]It’s a fraud. She tries to deny it now, but you can’t really deny it because, you know, just happened. She shouldn’t be allowed to be a congresswoman.[Why? Because she’s black and a member of the opposition party?] And I’m sure people are looking at that. And she should be thrown the hell out of our country. And most of those people, man, they have destroyed Minnesota.[Cool. I’m looking out my window at the snow coming down. Doesn’t seem to be destroyed] Okay, Minnesota, you have an incompetent governor. You have a crooked governor. He’s crooked as hell, but he’s incompetent. [no evidence given]
Uh Waltz is he’s should be ashamed. That beautiful land, that beautiful state, it’s a hell hole right now. [I don’t know about that. I kind of like it here] And the Somalians should be out of here. They’ve destroyed our country. And all they do is complain, complain, complain. [Isn’t that what Donald is doing here?] You have her. She’s always talking about the Constitution provides me with uh go back to your own country and figure out your constitution. [She’s an American citizen, she is talking about her constitution. Donald just doesn’t like the American constitution] All she does is complain about this country and without this country she would not be in very good shape. She probably wouldn’t be alive right now. So Somalia is considered by many [When a student hands in an essay with this kind of vague handwaving and evidence free claim, I fail them] to be the worst country on earth. I don’t know. I’ve I haven’t been there. I won’t be there anytime soon. I hope. But uh what Somalia what the Somalian people have done to Minnesota is is not even believable. It’s not even believable. [Correct. What the president says about Minnesota is not believable] And a lot of it starts with the governor. A lot of it starts with Barack Hussein and Obama because that’s when people started coming in. And you have to have people come in that are going to love our country, cherish our country. They want to kiss our country good night. They talk about our country. We want them to pray for our country. This is not the people living in Minnesota. And she’s a disaster. She should not be and her friends shouldn’t be allowed. Frankly, they shouldn’t even be allowed to be Congress people. Okay? They shouldn’t even be allowed to be Congress people because they don’t represent the interests of our country. [She represents my interests well. Trump? Not so much] Anybody else? There you are.
That’s just appalling. He just rambles on lying, and dumbass people accept it.
Are the Washington press corps going to just stand there and take it? Trump needs to be deposed and leave office immediately.
When I hear streams of shit dribbling out of his mouth like that, when he attacks people like Ilhan Omar (or Sadiq Khan, his other brown-person target this week) with flat-out lies just because he’s a pig-ignorant, racist, Islamophobic bucket-o’-hate, I wonder why the US doesn’t have any effective libel laws. Or, if you do prefer to have totally free speech, then at least make duelling legal once more. A cowardly bully like Trump would never dare open his mouth if he knew someone would challenge him and slam a sabre point down his lying throat.
Strong words for someone who (allegedly) gave Bill Clinton a BJ.
Don’t you just feel the love oozing from his words? Or maybe it’s syphilis, it’s hard to tell.
i’m sure everyone is just taking his words out of context…
Dontcha see? “People” started coming in thanks to those plucky dudes, Barack Hussein and Obama.
PZ said – That’s just appalling. He just rambles on lying, and dumbass people accept it.
That is what burns my ass. His racist followers love his spiel, none of them own enough gray matter to make humane decisions. They focus on his racist misogynist schoolyard rants and ignore all the important stuff he is fucking up. I have to wonder how much pain they need to endure before they realize their rights and freedoms are being gradually taken away and given to the top 1%.
Always appalled to never NEVER here a chorus of “that’s a lie” from the press corps.
nomdeplume, ahem.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/29/politics/fact-check-trump-ukraine-inflation
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Fact check: 10 debunked lies Donald Trump has repeated in the last week alone
By Daniel Dale
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Obs, it’s purely performative. He said much the same about Mamdani, then gushed over him later.
His followers mostly know it’s basically bullshit, but they like the performance and they like needling the ‘libs’. Part of the strategy of flooding the zone.
@8 Yes John, I meant reacting to his face, not fact-checking later. I know any journalist that did it would be banned from the WH, but a chorus of journalists would be effective. And do his followers realise it is basically bullshit? I’ve seen no sign of that in the last 10 years.
“Look how bad their nation is. It’s not even a nation. It’s just a people walking around killing each other.”
Isn’t that what he is turning the US into?
nomdeplume, you gotta remember they make the rules, and norms and proprieties are deprecated.
The more that happens, the less access genuine journos get, and the more for MAGA news media.
Collective punishment is one of their techniques, both stick and carrot.
End of the day, the press media is basically profit-driven, not ethically-driven.
cf. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/26/white-house-huffpost-press-pool-00206260
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White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt previewed on Tuesday that the Trump administration would determine which outlets have access to the president as part of the pool allowed into the Oval Office, aboard Air Force One and into other meetings and events that cannot accommodate the full press corps.
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or https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-starting-media-policy-030857930.html?guccounter=1
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The Associated Press says that a new White House media policy violates a court order by giving the administration sole discretion over who gets to question President Donald Trump, and the news agency asked a federal judge on Wednesday to enforce that order.
The swift move was in response to a policy issued late Tuesday by the White House, which suffered a courtroom loss last week over The Associated Press’ ability to cover Trump. The plans, the latest attempt by the new administration to control coverage of its activities, sharply curtail the access of three news agencies that serve billions of readers around the world.
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Not literally extortion, but, well, see how Paramount paid him $16M to ‘settle’ a worthless lawsuit (and to get approval for a merger).
Or https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-vs-the-media-press-access-wild-accusations-and-big-money-lawsuits/ar-AA1AdlzC
etc.
No one spends a lot of time calling out Trump’s lies because it isn’t news any more. No one expects him to ever tell the truth.
It’s so well known, it isn’t worth noting.
Trump told 31,000 lies during his first term. I’m sure he is on track to surpass this, his second term.
Who can keep up with this and why would anyone want to?
We only pay attention to his lies when they are going to directly affect us.
PZ lives in Minnesota.
I’m sure the people in the hellscape that was once Portland Oregon are paying attention and wondering why the place still looks the same and how they survived the fires and bombings without even noticing them.
And, he has ordered the Department of Justice (laughably misnamed) to keep a list of enemies of MAGA and Antifas (which don’t exist). I’m sure I’m on it by now. I managed to get on the first enemies list during the Nixon regime. They won’t even have to start an FBI file. I already have one.
Somalia can’t be considered the worst country on earth, by anyone, because you’re not their president.
We went through this last time with some places that were “shithole” countries, didn’t we?
Let’s put this to rest conclusively: no country can be worse than a country that you’re the president of. Q.E.D.
He seems to be on a streak of criticism.
Trump criticises ‘decaying’ European countries and ‘weak’ leaders
As Dire Straits once sang, “When you point your finger ’cause your plan fell through,
you got three more fingers, pointing back at you.“
Whose’s plan has ‘fallen through’?
cf. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAh-xEteBz4
Globes, atlases, encyclopedias (remember them?) including wikipedia say otherwise. As does well, reality. Indeed even Trump continues to then repeatedly call Somalia a country in that excerpt contradicting himself yet again.
Maybe Ilhan Omar should note that a lot of people say he’s fucking his daughter?
Also can’t she sue him for defamation / libel / slander for that? Or at least sue the other people who made up that bullshit? given that this POTUS is apparently officially above the law.
The sort of hate directed at Omar has already led to violent physical attacks as well as death threats against her :
Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilhan_Omar#Death_threats_and_harassment
This sort of thing is serious and needs to be addressed but, well, modern USoA under the Trump tyranny..
Good name for a legal firm?
Isn’t it time – long overdue – that Trump was removed from office for his evident mental incompetence to serve?
Alien Super Show has some fun Trump commentary from two weeks back.
.https://youtube.com/watch?v=hnjNZHJ0HDA
Sorry, StevoR, but truth matters.
As for opinions, I reckon your puling evinces naivete.
He is not serving; he is being served. Obviously!
And your vision of the rule of law is kinda inverted by rule of Lawful Evil.
Still perfectly lawful.
And no. The competence is in getting away with it so far. Genius, really.
Given that SCOTUS and Congress and the Executive all prostrate themselves and enable him, what’s due is even more of that. More more more. And the Evangelicals just LOOOOVE him. Agent of Dog, you know?
You know the concept of Karma? Well, USAnians sure are about to get a shitload more of that.
They elected him, you know. Perfectly legally.
And now the legal system enables him.
Sure, he loses a lot. But so what? Appeal, appeal, appeal, refile.
Now he’s got the DOJ as his attack dog.
So. Mental incompetence? Maybe.
Visible success? Definitely.
A lot of it starts with Barack Hussein and Obama
Both of them?
Back in the days I was told repeatedly by the Randroid infestation of the atheist movement how Somalia is the model of pure freedom we should all aspire for.
@ ^ yoav : Libertatrians may not often use Smoalia as an example of their ideal paradise but Jim Wright of the Stonekettle Station blog certainly did!
.. Except despite literally an hour of searching for it; my google -fu has failed to find it. I know I read it years ago and was memorably impressed by it. Even think linked / shared it here (FTB? Pharyngula?) once before? FFS. Sigh.
That Somalia was the Libertarian Paradise was the punchline of the essay, No idea why its proven so hard to find online again -but I can’t find it. Anyone else recall that one?
In June, Trump turns 80. Normally, I’m full of understanding for people of advanced years. Eight decades on planet Earth take their toll on body and mind. Keep on trucking, I say. But, in Trump’s case (I almost feel guilty saying this), kick the bucket already. Or, at least retire from public life. Ride into the sunset on a gold-plated golf cart. And take all your tacky, spray-painted gold baubles with you, you frigging freak.
@18. John Morales :
Except therein is the exact problem. Trump’s intended role is to serve as POTUS not to be served. That’s the presidential oath of office & how it is intended to work.
Just because he got where he is doesn’t make him a genius or competent. Lucky and only because he was aided by the propaganda and work of others eg. Murdoch, Thiel, Musk more like. Oh and because the USA fails so badly in the general populace’s poor critical thinking and education.
I’m aware of the concept, natch. Does it actually work and is it actually a real thing? Doubt it, if only it did. Also if only if the “karma” of what’s happening under Trump was limited to just the USoA rather the entire planet and our entire species. Climate consequences for starters – and perhaps most importantly of all too.
I have my doubts over that as you know – because I’ve noted them before with evidence. For starters, there’s voter suppression which absolutely robbed Kamala along with the 3rd Party spoilers, non-voters and quite possibly shenanigans by Musk. Again, decades of Murdoch and other reichwing propaganda corrupting and ruining too many minds really hurt the democratic, non-fascist, progressive side of politics too.
A now rigged SCOTUS means that the USoA legal system has been absolutely broken, corrupted and rendered impotent. Just as Congress has been rendered useless by the Trump cultists and their purging of the anti-Trump Repugs like Liz Cheney & Adam Kinzinger.
In the case of SCOTUS, the key moment was Obama being stopped from appointing Garland to the Court and then Trump replacing RBG with Kavanaugh and the Handmaiden Comey-Of-Barrett. Which, of c, was only possible because HRC was defeated in 2016 due to third party spoilers incl Stein and the EC and the Berniebros and Comey.
Mental incompetence definitely & visibly now.
Success? Well, not really, no. Depending on what constitutes “success” e.g. whether – in terms of the stated vs the real goals e.g. making the USA “great” again (?) vs making the USA fascist, divided, internationally loathed and collapsing.
#21, StevoR
I did a search on the Internet Archive and had a few hits for ‘Somalia Libertarian Paradise’. This one seems close to what you’re saying.
https://archive.org/details/di-final/mode/2up?q=Somalia+
Crossposted w. Infinite thread
HuffPost: “Trump Now Happy To Openly Disparage ‘S**thole Countries'”
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BTW 150 years ago Sweden was a shithole country, but we got better.
1953, South Korea was a shithole country, but now it is competing the hell out of American businesses.
DJT is by contrast lower than whale shit, and determined to never ascend from where he is.
The racism is bleeding through into Wyoming politics. I don’t know how Anthony Bouchard (disgraced local congressional jerk) somehow managed to get his rantings about Somali immigrants onto the Facebook feeds of every Wyomingite who has a page. The articles he cites are from over a decade ago and don’t portray the Somalis as doing anything but existing. Meanwhile, he has been a defendant in at least one lawsuit for libel. He’s a California transplant who thought he had a better shot at politics here than he did in his state, but even though he was elected a few times, the responses from many here in town to him have been less than warm. I know who I’d rather interact with on a daily basis, and it sure ain’t him.Why is he ranting now? I’m betting he’s trying to get back into the state legislature. We’ll see how that goes. It’s an interesting fact of politics here that when we are asked to raise state taxes on ourselves to fund, say, the fire department, it nearly always passes.
To explain that last comment, I know a lot of Republican states are portrayed as never wanting to levy taxes on anyone. It’s weird here. Raise property taxes? No way! Institute a state tax? Perish the thought! The 6th-penny sales tac, though, is clearly seen as something else entirely.
StevoR, karma is not a ledger in the sky, rather more like the inertia of conduct.
A person acts; the act leaves a trace.
The trace becomes a tendency.
The tendency becomes a pattern.
The pattern becomes character.
And character, once formed, generates consequences with mechanical regularity.
So, a liar becomes someone whose words are discounted before they are spoken.
A cruel person becomes someone surrounded by people who flinch.
A generous person becomes someone others help without calculation.
None of this requires metaphysics.
(Why people tend to be prickly around me here, because of the rep)
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As for “Success? Well, not really, no. Depending on what constitutes “success” e.g. whether – in terms of the stated vs the real goals e.g. making the USA “great” again (?) vs making the USA fascist, divided, internationally loathed and collapsing.”
Not in your frame, but in his, he’s gotten away with everything so far. He runs the country like a boss and gets lauded and praised and feted wherever he goes. Leaders of other nations kowtow to him, because of the power of the USA. Dominates the news cycle continually. He has enriched himself and his family by billions of dollars.
(O happy days!)
The last few days or so Donny seems to be oranging-up rather heavily. I was thinking if only he would dye his hair green he could be the aged king of the Oompa Loompas.
Someone needs to suggest a movie deal and a starring role to keep him occupied.
@ ^ fishy : More like the joker – an old fat, disgusting joker that’s actually far more evil than the fictional one and less believable despite being real.
@28. John Morales :
Okay, that’s not thedefinition Iwas thinking of which is the Buddhist / Hindu reincarnation type one or / and the colloquial do good things good things happen to you and vice-versa type one.
I mean, yeah, but in other more reasonable frames defined as doing what is promise dand achieveing ideal outcomes? I did say it depends on how you define “success” I guess it working out for him is his definition but for everyone else, not-so-much.
@24. John Watts : “#21, StevoR – I did a search on the Internet Archive and had a few hits for ‘Somalia Libertarian Paradise’. This one seems close to what you’re saying.”
Thanks for that -its not the one iremeber but is intresting, cheers.
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“Okay, that’s not the definition I was thinking of which is the Buddhist / Hindu reincarnation type one or / and the colloquial do good things good things happen to you and vice-versa type one.”
Because the Buddhist one also includes samsara, and so is metaphysical.
I did ape the language, notice? But it’s my own abstraction.
Babblical analogues exist:
Job 4:8 “Those who plow iniquity and sow trouble reap the same.”
Proverbs 22:8 “Whoever sows injustice will reap calamity.”
Hosea 8:7 “They sow the wind and reap the whirlwind.”
Hosea 10:12 “Sow for yourselves righteousness; reap steadfast love.”
Just seen today’s PBS Newshour which had a good discussion linked here :
https://proxy.freethought.online/pharyngula/2025/10/01/infinite-thread-xxxvii/comment-page-6/#comment-2286618
Where Ameshia Cross sums it up very well :
^ Or if not Trump himself those puppet-mastering him and operaing their demented meat puppet certainly do e.g. Shadow POTUS Stephen Miller..
StevoR, save the propaganda for that thread.
Seriously? Nothing else?
Very simplistic.
What is true is that Trump rules the Department of Justice, the federal courts are shaped by his appointments, the GOP’s national and state machinery all work for him, the billionaire and corporate donor networks support him transactionally, the regulatory state is becoming dependent on his largesse, and he can issue executive orders for anything at all, he has foreign‑policy leverage, patronage and appointments, and entire media ecosystems that amplify him.
That culture‑war mobilisation is a strategy enabled for those things, not a substitute for them.
@ ^ John Morales : Not “propaganda” at all but political analysis by an expert in that field namely Ameshia Cross in her news interview. Specifically referring to Trump’s political strategy and all he can point to to get support and evade questiuons or focus on the Epstein files – for the epsteinth time! Also deflecting from Trump’s disastrous economic mismanagement, his international failures despite his ludicrous claims otherwise of being pro-peace, et cetera.. Which is seeing Trump becomiong less popular and more deservedly loathed allthe time whichinpolitical terms = opposite of success.
Not sure I follow your objection here or why you think Ameshia Crossés words are incorrect – if that is what you think?
StevoR, I was rather explicit and direct, so it’s unfortunate you remain unsure whether you follow that.
But sure, woe is the USA!
(Sad!)
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PS You made me look: Ameshia Cross (@ameshiacross)
Instagram · ameshiacross 11.3K+ followers
Political Commentator | Democratic Strategist| Activist | Former Miss Black Chicago USA| Future US Senator. Photo by Ameshia Cross in Caesars Palace.
She looks like she can afford to pay the rent and buy groceries. Phew!
Late to the conversation, just thinking about how much the wife and I have enjoyed Minnesota every time we’ve visited, and whether she’d considered the quantity and duration of the snow when she suggested moving there after first hearing yesterday about the new ICE prison permitting, and then learning that some of her students upon aceing their citizenship test were informed that they were not going to be granted the privilege of citizenship just yet for reasons, and I’m certain that those reasons are quite colorful, insofar as brown is a color, but what do I know? Maybe every individual of any vaguely off-white hue is trying to profit off every other one of us, and consequently none of us get to be citizens anymore. Nothing but a continental community of individuals; problem solved?
Ah well, thank you to all Minnesotans for taking on the unwanted task of being this week’s hate sink for the remedial mental acuity test student in the White House.
And having lived as far north as Des Moines, no, we’re not moving to Minnesota. You guys are made of sterner stuff, fortified by better hotdishes perhaps.
@36.John Morales : “She looks like she can afford to pay the rent and buy groceries. Phew!”
Yeah, becoz when journos say “people” they always just mean themselves personally and no one else!
Context. For pities sake!
You do know that she was referring to the majority of Americans who are strugglnig and finding things much harder & more painfully expensive due to Trump’s needless, counter-productive tariffs etc. .. policies ..yeah?
Not just herself..
But other people..
I need to spelt this out?!
“You do know that she was referring to the majority of Americans who are strugglnig and finding things much harder & more painfully expensive due to Trump’s needless, counter-productive tariffs etc. .. policies ..yeah?”
I quoted you quoting her in another thread (you linked to your earlier link; twice dereferenced means more work for me), so whatever she intended to refer, she wrote what she wrote.
“I need to spelt this out?!”
Look. You want to believe her claims, go for it.
But it is palpably stupid to claim cultural wars are all he has.
FYI: *USUAL WEEKLY EARNINGS OF WAGE AND SALARY WORKERS
THIRD QUARTER 2025′
Median weekly earnings of the nation’s 122.6 million full-time wage and salary workers were
$1,214 in the third quarter of 2025 (not seasonally adjusted), the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
reported today. This was 4.2 percent higher than a year earlier, compared with a gain of 2.9
percent in the Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers (CPI-U) over the same period.
(https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/wkyeng.pdf)
For you, StevoR, a much more balanced take:
https://youtu.be/Jh_Ix8u8tbs