You know what’s fun? Put JD Vance in front of a friendly interviewer and let him talk. In this case, He sat down with a Breitbart drone and felt confident to just unfurl his freak flag and sing.
I actually think we have to destroy the universities in this country. They get too much money, they have too much power, I don’t think they do anything good.
He also claims that universities teach students to hate your country and hate your family
. I had to quickly review my syllabi to see if I included those points…oops, no, I guess I’m going to have to spend my weekend doing revisions.
There’s so much hatred of education and learning in that interview…I’d go on, but he’s such a prolific source of insanity that The Cut listed a guide to his most unhinged public statements. It doesn’t even include his DESTROY ALL UNIVERSITIES
talk.
And he’s just the vice president candidate. CNN compiled a list of 12 blatant lies Trump said in the last month.
And folks thought Trump loved the poorly educated..
I mean he does but Vance loves them so, soo much more! Becoz you would have to be even more willfully ignorant and deliberately close-minded and incurious to support Vance – which says a lot.
Every sentence is wrong and a lie.
.1. The universities don’t get enough money.
Back in the Dark Ages of the 1970s, the good public university I went to was heavily subsidized by the state. My tuition the first year was something like $600. Tuition this year is in-state $12,500. That state subsidy has all but disappeared.
.2. The universities don’t have too much power. They have in fact, very little power.
This is partly because their reason for existence isn’t to accumulate and exercise power.
Universities educate people and do research.
.3. Vance: I don’t think they do anything good.
JD Vance is dumb.
Thirty of the world’s top 40 research universities are in the USA. This explains a lot about why the US is the leading economy in the world and leads in scientific research and development.
Our military depends heavily on the universities for research and development and also for educating the soldiers.
And, an educated population is needed to run a Hi-Tech advanced society.
It used to be said that those (former) heavily subsidized college degrees paid for themselves. Educated people get better jobs and make more money, and so pay more taxes.
JD Vance is just outright dumb.
He is also seriously weird.
Is this really much different from Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge?
Who is this “we” here?
All of our powerful elected officials are also highly educated in mostly our elite universities.
Vance himself is a self described hillbilly from Appalachia who climbed out of poverty by going to Ohio State University and then getting a law degree from Yale.
The hypocrisy of this guy is immense.
I can’t think of too many societies that destroyed their universities.
Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge.
Maybe China under Mao with his cultural revolution.
Both of these cases ended up being major failures.
Vance seems to think these are good paths to follow.
Right, what the USA needs is a Mao style Cultural Revolution where we shut down the universities and send all the professors to the countryside to do agricultural work.
I’m sure our society will benefit when people like Dr. PZ Myers are forced to weed corn crops with hoes and harvest the corn crop by hand.
Maybe just Yale?
This is particularly rich coming from the part of the Republican ticket that (a) got an undergraduate degree from the single Big Ten university most distorted by the dominance of its athletic department and (b) got a doctoral degree from Yale. Especially as to the latter, one wonders what his student-loan history looks like. (And anyone who says “GI Bill” has no idea whatsoever how the “modern” — that is, post-First Gulf War — system works… or what the actual “dealer-sticker-price” tuition at Yale Law School was when Vance attended.)
Keep people uneducated and they’ll believe anything you tell them.
These guys really belong to the same groupmind don’t they.
Extreme cons/fascists/authoritarians of all stripes share the same fear of higher learning, probably conscious of the fact that their bullshit is easily parsed (and ridiculed) by those ‘orrible professors.
And let’s ignore the fact that, while deriding “learned people” as unmanly and weak they appear to be mightily terrified by them, in fact one of the first things on any tyrant’s playbook is bringing the unis to heel.
In short, classic ur-fascist playbook, nothing new:
https://archive.org/details/umberto-eco-ur-fascism/umberto-eco-ur-fascism.lt/
EXCEPT it might happen for real, in some form, in a couple of months.
Why aren’t the Dems collecting these fascist quotes and soundbites from these right wing clowns and blaring them on every media outlet with color commentary?
He’s running for the second highest office in a party that receives most of its votes from those without a college education. From his perspective, getting rid of the universities and destroying the education system is investing in the future.
@ Akira MacKenzie : Hopefully they are..
Or will. Guess it takes time.
“I actually think we have to destroy the universities in this country. They get too much money, they have too much power, I don’t think they do anything good.”
Desantis has already done this in Florida. The far right’s attack on education at all levels needs to become toast.
@#10WalterSolomon
Yup, they want to create more Republican voters because they can’t do it through intelligent conversation. Or is it just easier for them?
Quit using The Cut because of that godawful cat article. It’s owned by Vox, which owns New York Magazine, which employs Olivia Nuzzi, who had an emotional affair with RFK Jr.
This supposed man of the people from somewhere in Appalachia (well, at least he spent a few weeks there when he was a kid) is really just an elite snob. He thinks Yale is your average US university. Of course, guess where he’ll send his kids in a few years?
raven @ # 2: Every sentence is wrong and a lie.
Unfortunately, I must disagree. When Vance says
he may well mean it. (Okay, with a possible exception for football programs. And Liberty U.)
@4 Raven
“All of our powerful elected officials are also highly educated in mostly our elite universities.”
Attended maybe, educated no. The goal of an undergraduate education is not to accumulate facts, It’s to learn how to think –problem solving in the very general sense of the term. How many of our “powerful elected officials” could think their way out of a wet paper bag?
@5 Nemo
I think the poison from the Harvard Business and Law Schools dwarfs the other Ivy League schools (poison ivy?).
I think JD Vance has a layer of synthetic tissue, like the terminator. Inside is some reptilian alien that wants to destroy the Earthlings from inside. His social ineptitude is a big giveaway.
I guess the vancehole is the founder of the National Anti-intellectuals for tRUMP coalition. I wish people would/could just see that his hateful, idiotic (often self-contradictory) spiel is just as insane as tRUMP’s. But they won’t. That would require analytical thinking that they know is against jebus’ teachings. They’ll just continue to chug down the mind numbing tRUMP koolaid and drool.
‘CNN compiled a list of 12 blatant lies Trump said in the last month.’ I guess they don’t research anything completely anymore. I can’t believe it was just 12! After all, he is ‘credited’ with over 30,000 lies in the 4 years he spent destroying things in the white house!