Caitlin Flanagan is one of those creepy conservatives who manages to get regularly published in so-called liberal magazines like The New Yorker and The Atlantic, and simultaneously is loved by right-wing free speech warriors. She gets away with saying things like this, somehow.
Dear NYPD: Please, please, please arrest these faculty members, says the free speech warrior.
What, exactly, are these faculty members supposed to be arrested for? Is it for peacefully protecting the rights of minority students to express their political opinions? I thought that’s what we are supposed to do!
I mean, for decades now I’ve let creationists and far-right students state their beliefs in my classroom (of course, I would then tell them they were wrong, and why, but they could speak their minds). It would have been so much simpler if I could have just called campus security on dissenters from my holy opinions and had them hauled away. Do I get to do that now?
It is so heartwarming that Vladimir Putin and an American conservative have the same attitudes to dissent.
I am sure there must be some brown people in the crowd you can arrest for walking outdoors.
Tom Tomorrow takes on the issue straight ahead here with a principled view from Mr. Pundit Guy (at Daily Kos): Freedom of Speech
Caitlin Pacific?? There’s nothing peaceful about her attitudes….
For existing and not agreeing with Caitlin Flanagan.
I’d never heard of Caitlin Flanagan.
For good reason.
She is a loon with nothing coherent to say.
I tried with Google to find out what she believes in and why and didn’t get very far.
She claims to hate feminism and feminists.
She claims to be a housewife.
Meanwhile she also has a job as a prominent writer for several magazines, notably the Atlantic, where she can write about how awful working women are while simultaneously being a working woman.
“It would have been so much simpler if I could have just called campus security on dissenters from my holy opinions and had them hauled away. Do I get to do that now?”
No! You’re a liberal, PZ. Only Real Americans™ get to use the power of the state to crush dissenters.
If we don’t stop these people with views different to my own, then the commies have won, wait a minute those ex-commies are now my paymaster and I need a new argument quick.
Caitlin Flanagan is a loon and an idiot.
I tried to find out what she believes and I’m still not sure. It’s all vapid and incoherent.
This example sums it up.
This is just pure trash. It’s also flat out wrong.
.1. The vast majority of working women don’t have nannies and servants!!!
They can’t afford them. In fact, some of those working women are nannies.
They are working because they have to. A significant percentage are single mothers.
.2. Creeps like Caitlin Flanagan aren’t real big on facts.
It’s 3.3% of high earning Americans. Not many.
.3. The lives Flanagan is writing about are a few upper middle class and upper class women living in rich neighborhoods.
And she is pretending they are representative of the lives of all American women in general, which is absolutely not true.
Do you want to learn of people dumber and crueller than ‘Flanaghan Who?’ Look no further than UK (crossposted from the infinite thread).
A Different Bias/Youtube shorts: “Reform UK Reveal Their Evil”
.https://youtube.com/shorts/jaZyfbfGCuo
Not “let them eat cake” but “let them drown”. A modest proposal…if they aren’t too rotten when they float ashore we can make Soylent Green.
Be sure to practice your right of free speech… NO, NOT LIKE THAT. — Caitlin Flanagan
There are exactly fifty-seven card-carrying members of the Communist Party in the United States Senate at this time!
Pro Palestinian protests are happening at several universities nationwide after what happened at Columbia U. Kinda gives me hope.
@ Jaws, # 12: You’re making a joke, aren’t you. : )
I need to call my daughter. Her husband is a faculty member at NYU, and I’m willing to bet that he was standing there!
@12 is a paraphrase of Joseph McCarthy’s 1950 speech.
Full text here
https://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtID=3&psid=3633
Rotten media owners at work.
.https://youtube.com/watch?v=TOmlYy1iN-U
On the one hand, my snark @12 was a quote from The Manchurian Candidate (substituting “United States Senate” for “Department of State”)… and the number “57” came from looking at a bottle of Heinz ketchup (in the film). I would have done the whole “Have you no decency, sir?” speech, but I think we already know the answer to that.
On the other hand, “better dead than Red State”. We won’t get into the whole “right-wing socialist revolutionaries versus left-wing socialist revolutionaries” bit from 1917 to 1923, nor the question of what the label “communist” hides regarding Stalin and Putin.
Somehow reminds me of the time students peacefully protested against Slobodan Milošević during the 90s, waving World War II slogans that said “Death to fascism, freedom for the people”. Slogan that communist party, of which Milošević’s socialist party of Serbia (SPS) was direct political inheritor, made famous and widespread, a rallying cry for freedom during the war. Dictator Milošević ordered them and then got them arrested. Kind of telling on yourself, mate?