Of course, if Trump was POTUS in WW II it seems a pretty safe bet America’s Mango Mussolin would have sided with the other fascists including Hitler just as he now sides with Putin so..
fishysays
I’m having such a hard time resolving this whole thing in my mind.
It’s so very serious and yet it is also absurd and comedic.
The hollywood writer’s strike must be tying some people in knots.
grandolddeitysays
fishy nailed it. The last six years worth of global and national events should be at the forefront of any personal preparations going forward. Our absurd reality is a real-life quandary.
stwrileysays
The whole story really ought to end in a bunker with a pistol
Except that, unlike Hitler, Trump would never do that. As a psychiatrist once said of my wife’s grandmother after she threatened (again) to kill herself: “don’t worry, she’s entirely too narcissistic to actually do that.” Pretty much explains Trump, too.
Also, if Trump had the Ark of the Covenant, there’s no way he’d be able to resist opening it up. He may never open up a box of papers that have to be READ, but the Ark is big and shiny and something he’d want to show off to everyone.
silvrhalidesays
@ I mentioned that same problem a few threads back. I support the writers’ guild and they aren’t asking for anything unreasonable but the timing is terrible.
If you like the “alternate ending” try these:
From Washington Post:
““For purposes of fighting the Greatest Witch Hunt of all time, now moving to the Florida Courts, I will be represented by Todd Blanche, Esq., and a firm to be named later,” Trump said on social media.”
Talk about a thankless (and probably unpaid) task…
Does Todd actually enjoy tilting at windmills or does he just think that things will end differently for him than it did for literally all of Dolt 45’s other lawyers?
“they were the best that he could find” indeed.
silvrhalidesays
edit: @2
fishysays
@7
edit: writers’
It was bothering me.
monadsays
Eh, I’m not convinced Trump would be opening up the ark. The lid is heavy, plus you have to know it opens.
ravensays
The attorneys, Jim Trusty and John Rowley, did not explain in detail why they had resigned, other than to say that “this is a logical moment” to do so given his indictment Thursday in U.S. District Court in Miami.
Trump’s lawyers quit again.
This happens a lot.
They didn’t say why but I’m guessing, they were going to lose and didn’t want to bother with the case.
I’m also wondering if Trump could just plead insanity and have that work.
Consider:
Trump always makes things worse. Worse for everyone but also worse for him. Data.
.1. Trump could have been a hero of our last pandemic, the Covid-19 virus one that killed 1.4 million US people.
It would have been so easy.
All he would have to do is stand back and let the medical experts do what they are trained to do. We’ve been dealing with pandemics for thousands of years now and know a lot.
Instead, he interfered, denied, and generally got in the way and that is a lot of why he wasn’t reelected.
.2. In the current case of the documents, all he would have had to do is go “oops”, sorry about that, here they are, take them away”.
The case against him would have largely evaporated at that point. He wouldn’t be facing Obstruction of Justice charges at the least.
As we know from Watergate, it isn’t the crime that gets them, it is the coverup.
He didn’t need them anyway and they are probably of no value. Secret documents often become worthless in a few months or years as things change and move on.
What is our secret strategy with regard to Iran, for example? Who knows or cares.
It is likely to change often, and with every new administration.
Trump’s talent for making things worse seems to be a core personality trait and nothing that he has any control over. He has a long history to show this.
moonslicersays
A man’s character is his fate. — Heraclitus
robrosays
raven @ #10 — You’re right on both points, but obviously that’s not the way Chump operates. He’s always…always…on the look out for his scams, and he’s not very smart. He makes bad decisions but because of his “positivist” attitude he can never admit his mistakes.
He resisted doing the right thing about COVID because he feared it would hurt his reelection chances. He was right, but because he handled it wrong not because the pandemic happened.
He held on to those documents for a couple of reasons, it seems to me. One was to use them to show off to random people. You get a sense that was a significant factor when he’s showing these documents to what seems to be random people at his clubs.
The other was to sell the information which he may well have done that. His buddy’s like Putin and bin Salman would have been interested in paying for that information…and perhaps bin Salman’s investment in Jared is pay back for it. And while the intel itself might get stale quickly the sources for that intel, methods for obtaining it, and analyzing it are more consistent over time. It has been noted that there has been an increase in mysterious deaths of intel sources in the last couple of years. There could be several reasons for that, of course, but it’s plausible that these files may have helped track down those sources.
Plus, just the fact that a rogue stupid con man with the access is able to walk out of office with classified intel will unsettle America’s allies and potential intel sources.
He’s always been a fuckup. Surprise! A lot of fuckups elected him to be fuckup in chief and then he fucked up some more. The really miraculous outcome would be if he didn’t fuck up.
There ought to be a staff of minders following him around, “no sir, forks do not go in electrical outlets” “no sir chainsaw does not work” “sir, Bob will drive the golf cart” I hear Jeffeey Epstien’s minders are available.
xohjoh2nsays
@13:
There ought to be a staff of minders following him around, “no sir, forks do not go in electrical outlets”
In the event that there actually is an afterlife, say hi to Pat. >snerk
wzrd1says
@14, look at the toilet repair bills from Trump’s time in the White House. He literally flushed some classified documents down the toilet.
Probably the only reason he didn’t stick forks into the electrical outlets is because one doesn’t eat hamburgers and fries with a fork.
silvrhalide, the only improvement in the news thus far would be an announcement of Putin shuffling off this mortal coil.
Alas, wish in one hand, shit in the other, we all know which hand will get filled first.
StevoR says
If Trump really had the real Ark of the Covenant from Indy Jones there you know he couldn’t resist taking a peek – and then, well, this scene except with Trump rather than older version nazis..
Of course, if Trump was POTUS in WW II it seems a pretty safe bet America’s Mango Mussolin would have sided with the other fascists including Hitler just as he now sides with Putin so..
fishy says
I’m having such a hard time resolving this whole thing in my mind.
It’s so very serious and yet it is also absurd and comedic.
The hollywood writer’s strike must be tying some people in knots.
grandolddeity says
fishy nailed it. The last six years worth of global and national events should be at the forefront of any personal preparations going forward. Our absurd reality is a real-life quandary.
stwriley says
Except that, unlike Hitler, Trump would never do that. As a psychiatrist once said of my wife’s grandmother after she threatened (again) to kill herself: “don’t worry, she’s entirely too narcissistic to actually do that.” Pretty much explains Trump, too.
Raging Bee says
Also, if Trump had the Ark of the Covenant, there’s no way he’d be able to resist opening it up. He may never open up a box of papers that have to be READ, but the Ark is big and shiny and something he’d want to show off to everyone.
silvrhalide says
@ I mentioned that same problem a few threads back. I support the writers’ guild and they aren’t asking for anything unreasonable but the timing is terrible.
If you like the “alternate ending” try these:
From Washington Post:
““For purposes of fighting the Greatest Witch Hunt of all time, now moving to the Florida Courts, I will be represented by Todd Blanche, Esq., and a firm to be named later,” Trump said on social media.”
Talk about a thankless (and probably unpaid) task…
Does Todd actually enjoy tilting at windmills or does he just think that things will end differently for him than it did for literally all of Dolt 45’s other lawyers?
“they were the best that he could find” indeed.
silvrhalide says
edit: @2
fishy says
@7
edit: writers’
It was bothering me.
monad says
Eh, I’m not convinced Trump would be opening up the ark. The lid is heavy, plus you have to know it opens.
raven says
Trump’s lawyers quit again.
This happens a lot.
They didn’t say why but I’m guessing, they were going to lose and didn’t want to bother with the case.
I’m also wondering if Trump could just plead insanity and have that work.
Consider:
Trump always makes things worse. Worse for everyone but also worse for him. Data.
.1. Trump could have been a hero of our last pandemic, the Covid-19 virus one that killed 1.4 million US people.
It would have been so easy.
All he would have to do is stand back and let the medical experts do what they are trained to do. We’ve been dealing with pandemics for thousands of years now and know a lot.
Instead, he interfered, denied, and generally got in the way and that is a lot of why he wasn’t reelected.
.2. In the current case of the documents, all he would have had to do is go “oops”, sorry about that, here they are, take them away”.
The case against him would have largely evaporated at that point. He wouldn’t be facing Obstruction of Justice charges at the least.
As we know from Watergate, it isn’t the crime that gets them, it is the coverup.
He didn’t need them anyway and they are probably of no value. Secret documents often become worthless in a few months or years as things change and move on.
What is our secret strategy with regard to Iran, for example? Who knows or cares.
It is likely to change often, and with every new administration.
Trump’s talent for making things worse seems to be a core personality trait and nothing that he has any control over. He has a long history to show this.
moonslicer says
A man’s character is his fate. — Heraclitus
robro says
raven @ #10 — You’re right on both points, but obviously that’s not the way Chump operates. He’s always…always…on the look out for his scams, and he’s not very smart. He makes bad decisions but because of his “positivist” attitude he can never admit his mistakes.
He resisted doing the right thing about COVID because he feared it would hurt his reelection chances. He was right, but because he handled it wrong not because the pandemic happened.
He held on to those documents for a couple of reasons, it seems to me. One was to use them to show off to random people. You get a sense that was a significant factor when he’s showing these documents to what seems to be random people at his clubs.
The other was to sell the information which he may well have done that. His buddy’s like Putin and bin Salman would have been interested in paying for that information…and perhaps bin Salman’s investment in Jared is pay back for it. And while the intel itself might get stale quickly the sources for that intel, methods for obtaining it, and analyzing it are more consistent over time. It has been noted that there has been an increase in mysterious deaths of intel sources in the last couple of years. There could be several reasons for that, of course, but it’s plausible that these files may have helped track down those sources.
Plus, just the fact that a rogue stupid con man with the access is able to walk out of office with classified intel will unsettle America’s allies and potential intel sources.
Marcus Ranum says
He’s always been a fuckup. Surprise! A lot of fuckups elected him to be fuckup in chief and then he fucked up some more. The really miraculous outcome would be if he didn’t fuck up.
There ought to be a staff of minders following him around, “no sir, forks do not go in electrical outlets” “no sir chainsaw does not work” “sir, Bob will drive the golf cart” I hear Jeffeey Epstien’s minders are available.
xohjoh2n says
@13:
Why?
silvrhalide says
Wow, the hits just keep on coming. Is this good news week or what?
https://abcnews.go.com/US/unabomber-ted-kaczynski-found-dead-jail-cell/story?id=99984583
In the event that there actually is an afterlife, say hi to Pat. >snerk
wzrd1 says
@14, look at the toilet repair bills from Trump’s time in the White House. He literally flushed some classified documents down the toilet.
Probably the only reason he didn’t stick forks into the electrical outlets is because one doesn’t eat hamburgers and fries with a fork.
silvrhalide, the only improvement in the news thus far would be an announcement of Putin shuffling off this mortal coil.
Alas, wish in one hand, shit in the other, we all know which hand will get filled first.
prairieslug says
Top. Men.
wzrd1 says
More like rock solid Bottoms.