Next week, our monthly Podish Sortacast will tackle a hot-button issue: abortion. We’ve got a doctor, a biologist, and a whole swarm of people here who will happily defend the medical procedure and castigate the people who oppose it. Should be fun. I’ll be sure to take my blood pressure medicine beforehand.
raven says
Biden predicts states will try to arrest women who travel for abortions
Women’s right to mobility is the next battleground between Red and Blue states.
If women can’t move about where they will, they are prisoners and slaves.
What the Red states want to set up is something we’ve seen often over the centuries.
A Police state.
With the target population being women, especially pregnant women.
It’s all there, repressive laws, lack of freedom, lots of police to enforce those laws, and lots of prisons and concentration camps for those who get caught.
Biden is right that the Red states will try to extend their laws to the Blue states.
He is wrong that anyone is going to be surprised.
Those laws have already been passed.
Marcus Ranum says
Paul,
That stuff looks like it was written by an intern with a few course hours in marketing. What do you think, Paul?
raven says
To state the obvious, what the Supreme Court has done is set up a perpetual battle between the Red and Blue states. Repealing Roe versus Wade is just the start of what will be a battle for the foreseeable future.
The first two issues will be:
.1. Women traveling from slave states for abortions.
It is already happening and will be a common way to obtain an abortion.
State laws end at state borders.
The Red states want to change this to, “our laws apply in your state.”
These Red state laws will make abortion into a felony with life in prison or death as the penalty.
.2. Outlawing DIY abortion drugs.
They are getting ready to try to do this.
RU-486 (mifepristone) and misoprostol are common drugs that also have other uses.
There is already a black market for them and that black market will grow to supply the demand.
We already know that outlawing abortion doesn’t stop abortions. It just makes them illegal and much more hazardous for women.
There are 800,000 abortions in the USA per year.
It is estimated that after the Red states set up their Zygote Police (ZyPos) and Police state, that the number of abortions in the USA will still be ca. 700,000.
The reduction will be 100,000 or so.
That is IMO, possibly an overestimate. It may be closer to zero. That is what happened when Romania outlawed abortion and set up their Zygote Police state. The birth rate ended up at where it was before.
And then they revolted and shot Ceausescu and his wife.
Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaiden says
Of course!
They’ve always hated states’ rights just like they’ve always hated everyone’s rights. They want to tell you what to do, order you around, control you as they would their slaves. When states’ rights was a useful ruse to get them on talk shows and expand the number of people that they could control, they were happy to use it, but the goal was never to end their control at the border of a particular state. They are megalomaniacal tyrants, and borders won’t stop them (much less logic or consistency or shame).
Great American Satan says
I won’t be there bc I can’t even, but I’ll be interested to see my peoples reprezent. Long live the fighters!
birgerjohansson says
Laws applying beyond the borders…that is exactly the way the Sharia laws are supposed to work. And the Sharia laws will also apply to unbelievers.
It is scary how much the medieval mindset of islamists overlaps with that of the Republicans.
silvrhalide says
Why wait for next week? You will probably need those blood pressure meds now.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/07/02/10-year-old-ohio-indiana-abortion-roe/7795409001/
raven says
Here is the next abortion war.
The Red states want to make pregnant women into prisoners and slaves.
Under our laws, state laws stop at state borders.
The Red states want to extend their laws into the Blue states.
This can’t be legal. Except with the current Supreme Court, they can make up any laws they want.
FFS, how are they going to enforce this?
Put a collar around the necks of pregnant women and chain them up in the yard or a dungeon?
Set up pregnancy camps where pregnant women will be imprisoned until they give birth?
Put up an Iron Curtain fence at their borders with mine fields, dogs, and guard towers. Shoot any pregnant women who try to escape?
We’ve seen this movie before in places like the USSR, Serbia during the Bosnian genocide, and Romania under communism.
The Red states want to set up Police states with pregnant women as their first victims.
raven says
From the Washington Post article above.
Yeah it does.
The Thomas More society is a Catholic extremist legal organization.
They almost always lose their cases.
This is dumb.
It makes all citizens into vigilantes and many of them into criminals.
Civil litigation at the state level is only enforceable in the state you live in or have some sort of ties to. If I get sued by someone in Georgia, it either goes Federal or it goes nowhere. I’m not under the jurisdiction of Georgia state courts.
California and several other states have already passed laws nullifying the Red states attempts to take over their legal systems.
StevoR says
Live in 5 hours currently. Its after midnight now here (Adelaide, South Oz) and that means its going to be on 5 am ish my time. Sorry but I don’t think I’ll make it..unless I really can’t sleep.