I’ve had people try to tell me that Ross Douthat may be conservative, but that he’s a thoughtful and interesting guy. My response usually involves incredulous, speechless goggling at them, but now I’ve got one pithy response:
New York Times columnist Ross Douthat spoke at a fundraising event for the Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), a right-wing legal group that works to defend anti-LGBT discrimination and supported the criminalization of homosexuality.
He wasn’t there to voice opposition to the ongoing ADF nonsense, either. What next? Will he attend a KKK meeting to give the reasonable, conservative position on the black community?
OK, maybe that’s too extreme. Instead, he’ll just send messages of sympathy to the Kansas couple suing The Gays for stealing marriage from them.
By now i know better than to ask if the story about the Kansas morons is true…but seriously? It makes me want to get married to a man in Kansas just so that i can rub it in their faces….i’ll camp in front of their fucking house and consumate my marriage….loudly and repeatedly.
Alliance Defending Freedom…..
Defending Freedom…..
group that works to defend anti-LGBT discrimination…..
Defending Freedom….. defend anti-LGBT discrimination…..
*Jackie Chan meme*
Gaymetheus stole marriage from the straight gods, and gave it to Man. He was punished by being chained to a rock, and forced to watch Prometheus
^ Thread won.
*sigh*, still? Gays STEAL marriage? “Marriage” is a physical object that can be stolen, and all the gays gang up on the marriage stores and clear them out? *sigh* Is that the BEST they can come up with to disenfranchise “unconventional” people?
psst…whispering: “freedom” goes BOTH ways. Includes freedom TO DO, not just freedom to DISALLOW. get it? [/whispers] Yuse are #opposing# freedom, not #defending# it. Like defending the “Boo’s” and Hecklers, only, and not the performers themselves. hint, hint: Let 2 _persons_ marry, no need to specify the genders of those getting married.
Her?
If marriage is a thing that can be stolen, then what is divorce?
Is it some bizarre violation of the law of conservation of matrimony?
Douthat sometimes has an “on” day and puts words together amusingly. And he’s not a notably froth-spittle conservative. He may even have some capacity for empathy, sometimes.
That’s the best one can say about his columns. He’s a complete idiot, with the reasoning ability of a spoiled child who magically expects the world to make him comfortable.
It’s like the National Organization for Marriage, an organization which opposes marriage. Nothing new in their idiocy.
Dateline- 1861 Tara Plantation:
Prominent southern belle Scarlett O’Hara files civil class action against runaway slaves.
Her complaint alleges that by running away from plantations, escaped slaves have ‘stolen’ their labor from her and from other southern belles, thus making it far too difficult to afford the dozens of petticoats a proper southern belle requires to maintain her place at the pinnacle of Southern Society.
Saad @ 7:
I think that would be the Law of Conservatism of Matrimony.
I always read his name as Ross Dought-that.
I can’t find the link right now, but apparently “Cardinal” Douthat (with apologies to Charles Pierce) has semi-apologized for appearing in front of a hate group. He thought they were really nice people, and not bigoted assholes. His one saving grace is that he’s still better than David Brooks. Not setting the bar very high there, am I?
No, no, no, they pirate marriage, not steal it as such. It’s a copyright issue. Ya see? That’s why it’s not a religious thing.
So “the Unruhs declare that legalization of same-sex marriage would constitute the literal theft of their straight Christian marriage, a property which is guaranteed to belong only to them per the Fifth Amendment” (i.e. property can not be taken without compensation).
Um, so when a straight couple got married in the past what was the compensation the straight couple gave to the Unruhs?
I really don’t want to share the name “person” with the Unruhs. Can I sue to have them kicked out of the human race?
Maybe if the KKK rebrand themselves as the American Liberty Freedom Family Council of America or something, their membership will pick up and they can afford his speaker fees.
I’ve been told that about George Will, David Brooks, William F. Buckley, the younger Buckley, Jon Huntsman, Barry Goldwater and many other conservative ‘thinkers’ of the 20th and 21st centuries. It’s invariably been a lie, and the asshole in question spouts the same bullshit as all the other conservatives.
epicurus @13
This is what’s known in the rhetoric industry as “damning with faint praise.”
@15 woozy
Would they be OK with reparations paid to those holding “straight Christian marriage”? With any literal theft, there usually has to be a way to assess the loss/damage. I suppose they’ll argue that making the bigoted baby Jesus cry is priceless and the only way to settle is to return “marriage” back to them so they don’t have to keep saying/typing “straight Christian marriage”. If a judge responds to this specific motion, I can’t wait to read it.
The ADF already lost its freedom from Jews, Catholics, Asians, blacks, women and hispanics – if they don’t win their freedom from gays there won’t be anyone left that they can free to treat like shit.
Douthat expressed regret for his involvement: “I was not aware in advance that this event was a fundraiser and had I known, I would not have agreed to participate.”
So he expresses his repentance in a concrete fashion: “… I’ll be declining the honorarium.”
That’s right folks:, he un-supports ADF so much he just made a de facto contribution of probably a few thousand dollars to their cause. Maybe he ought to reimburse them for his travel expenses, too.
Doofusthat sez:
…and that’s the NEVER-ENDING FUCKING PROBLEM WITH CONSERVATIVES.
if they did their goddamn due diligence, they wouldn’t BE conservatives.
Re #18
Son Chris endorsed Obama in 2008, shortly after the death of his father Bill, who probably turned over in his grave.