Episode CCCXXIX: Centered


While I was in Kamloops, I got to meet The Thinking Atheist, who premiered this most excellent video at the meeting.

This guy is a talented pro — I hope more atheist organizations tap into his skills (he made one of the best videos of the Reason Rally, for instance.)

(Episode CCCXXVIII: No remorse.)

Comments

  1. Louis says

    Ooooh it’s so shiny in here and nobody has shat it up yet with an argument.

    So I’ll start. Tpyos, Typos, or any other of the false deities you all worship is not the god of clerical errors.

    TYPO is the one true Gdo of Clerical Errors and Hsi Rwath is Mihgty!

    I’ve scheduled a schism for 4:30pm BST. Drinks and nibbles afterwards at mine. Please bring own holy txet for the misquoting thereof.

    Louis

  2. Janine: History’s Greatest Monster says

    Let’s hear it for Pickles The Drummer The Realtor!

    What?

  3. says

    … when I take her out with the harness, suddenly outside is scary and she wants right back in.

    Our Thelma has taken recently to bolting out the door whenever she gets a chance… this is especially effective when they’re coming from outside–guess she just lies in wait and hears them; you’ve got to be pretty alert to catch her from this side.

    … but she only ever goes to the bottom of the step or the edge of the deck, to the nearest patch of grass, which she then proceeds to chew on until someone comes and picks her up, and brings her back in, and which she doesn’t much protest.

    Now, also, re her eating grass, I know one working theory is cats probably do so to help with the whole regurgitating hairballs thing. But I’m not sure with Thelma…

    See, she’s black and white, kinda patchily/unevenly so.

    She’s Holstein-coloured. So I figure maybe she just thinks she’s a cow.

  4. carlie says

    Audley – I just did our last name and phone number (with area code), since that number isn’t expected to change any time soon. And using our name means we could be looked up in a phone book, instead of the cat’s name, which if someone was close enough to read it, they’ve already got hold of the cat (and it’s not like she’d come if they called…).

  5. Louis says

    Audley,

    Look what you did on the nice clean thread! I suppose I should be used to it what with my toddler and all…

    ….oh you are soon to discover that poo is the centre of your life….

    …but I suppose I was meaning metaphorical, emotional poo rather than literal poo.

    {Puffs seriously on pipe}

    {Wonders why bubbles come out}

    Louis

  6. says

    Carlie,
    Thanks. We’re not in the phone book (we don’t have land line), but I think that the tag will read:

    PICKLES
    Darkheart
    (XXX)555-5555

    Or something of that nature.

    (If someone calls, I want them to be able to identify my cat, you know? Otherwise, it could be creepy.)

  7. says

    Louis:

    Look what you did on the nice clean thread!

    What?

    *poo* *poo* *poo*

    That?

    (Kind of in a poop joke mood today. I’ve taken the day off so I can wait in line at the DMV (ugh) and get prodded by my doc (ugh). Trying to inject some levity into this (ugh) morning!)

  8. Louis says

    Fuck. I’m high as a kite today.

    By which I mean to say that I am in dangerously ebullient and frivolous humour, not that I have ingested or otherwise consumed in some manner intoxicating substances of a euphoric nature.

    It might be the chicken salad I had for lunch. The lettuce was deeply suspicious.

    Louis

  9. KG says

    Rejoice! For Pickles was lost, and is found!

    And best wishes for All the Fun of the Exam Season (is that Highers, for him? SonSpawn is having GCSE Fun this week – opposablethumbs

    Yes, highers. And all the best to your SonSpawn! Fortunately, mine is of a remarkably sanguine temperament. As Mrs. KG remarked to me, if she’d just had an exam where she thought she hadn’t done too well, she’s have been utterly miserable – as would I; but not our son. Where did he get it from? Well, Mrs. KG’s brother is similar.

  10. philliphector says

    Anyone ever notice that the “@” atheist symbol (especially at the end of this video) looks a lot like the insignia of Starfleet? Perhaps there is a brighter future ahead of us, if only we work for it. We must boldly go where no other species has gone before…

  11. life is like a pitbull with lipstick ॐ says

    theophontes,

    OK. I can download your files in theaphontes’s office. I have saved to USB

    Excellent. Your password to decrypt them is:

    The/Tardigrade/Identity

  12. rickschauer says

    Louis

    It might be the chicken salad I had for lunch. The lettuce was deeply suspicious.

    Suspicious? Oh please, may I get a lettuce salad then? My shat-poor little CTE brain needs a little help today.

    No msgs…forever thankful!

  13. says

    Giliell, sorry to hear about the probable Hashimoto’s; I hope you get effective treatment.

    Rev. BDC, last thread: I had linked to the thing about George Tierney of Greenville, South Carolina upthread. He is truly unaware of all internet traditions. (And, yeah, FireDogLake in general and TBogg in particular don’t roll the same way we do about language. I am, shall we say, rather ambivalent about that site, but it’s a long story.)

    My kitteh is microchipped. I briefly let her out during one summer a few years ago, then reconsidered for various reasons. Since then she’s bolted once, through a window that was open during removal of an A/C unit. She didn’t go far; she just wanted to lie in the grass, like AJ’s Thelma.

  14. says

    A religious legislator posts a biblical injunction to kill all gays. His follow-up story, and the thrust of media coverage, is that he feels threatened.

    A pastor turned Mississippi legislator is fearing for his life after activists say he endorsed the killing of gay men on his Facebook page.

    Rep. Andy Gipson cited a Bible passage earlier this month to slam President Obama’s endorsement of gay marriage, saying he believed that homosexuals shouldn’t have the right to marry.

    “The only opinion that counts is God’s,” he said, then quoted a Bible passage that he interprets to say that being gay is a sin.

    He also quoted another passage:

    “If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”…</blockquote?
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mississippi-legislator-fears-life-comments-gay-marriage-article-1.1082421

  15. Louis says

    {Shouts into the Evil Atheist Conspiracy Command Horn}

    Hardcore fresh “lettuce” of dubious and very suspicious nature to Rickschauer, STAT.

    Your lettuce is on its way to you, sir. We here at the EAC division of LouisCorp (an Evil Corporate Entity) aim to please. Please take the time to fill in our performance card and take a brochure regarding the orgies.

    Louis

  16. says

    More on the story about Rep. Andy Gipson’s anti-gay remarks:

    Gipson refused to backtrack, however, posting on Friday to his Facebook page that he “Will not apologize for the inspired truth of God’s word.”

    After that, he said, the threats began to come.

    In a statement to WLBT-TV in Jackson, Miss., Gipson said he never called for the killing of gay people and slammed The Huffington Post, which ran an article about his refusal to apologize, as a “well-known radical liberal blog”.

    “Any reasonable person who reads the actual post can see that both scriptures were cited only for the proposition the same-sex marriage is morally objectionable,” he argued.

    I’m calling total bullshit. For one thing, I’m really fed up with the “it’s not me saying kill the gays, it’s God” excuse. And I’m totally fed up with the “yeah, I quoted God-inspired text justifying killing gay people, but I didn’t really mean it that way” excuse.

  17. says

    Okay, I wanted to take a picture of Pickles to celebrate her homecoming (not that I already have hundreds of pictures or anything), but she looked up at me and immediately started licking her butt. Clever girl.

    I think that’s a signal that I should get off my ass and get some errands done. Ta ta!

  18. opposablethumbs says

    Thank you KG! We are … um, not exactly loving this whole exam experience, to put it mildly. But hoping to survive it! I find myself constantly counting modules (done and still to go) on my fingers and trying to work out how it bodes for possible entry to 6th form.
    Which uni(s) might Son like to go to – and which of the sciences is he into? (I’m assuming sciences as I remember you said he was taking Maths. Incidentally, do the grade boundaries go by absolute percentage marks, or by percentage of the cohort taking it in any one year?)

  19. Sili says

    The centre cannot hold.

    The fawken cannot hear the fawkener.

    Things fall apart.

  20. David Marjanović says

    Return of teh prodigal kitteh ♥

    In less good news, sign this petition, everyone.

    For one thing, I’m really fed up with the “it’s not me saying kill the gays, it’s God” excuse.

    Some of those people, though, really do experience agony from having a better-developed moral compass than their own god. Barb in the old dungeon was one of those.

    And I’m totally fed up with the “yeah, I quoted God-inspired text justifying killing gay people, but I didn’t really mean it that way” excuse.

    I’m with you on that one.

  21. Ariaflame, BSc, BF, PhD says

    Yay for the finding of Pickles!

    My friends have acquired a cat that is meant to stay in at night, but as cats often will do, thinks that whichever side of the door it is on, the other side must be better, lays in wait for visitors to arrive or leave so they can bolt for it.

    It does eventually come back but ideally it gets distracted at critical point. It is just important that the person distracting focuses on the cat, as it has been known to swipe/bite those who it feels are not paying full attention, and the time between ‘scritches are nice’ and ‘stop doing that now!’ can be measured in seconds at most.

  22. says

    Re “The Center of all Things”: cool video, but the guy lost me with the “When a long life was 30 years” (around 45 sec). Sorry, no.

    Thirty was the age expectancy at birth, not the maximum duration of human life. A “long life”, in the Palaeolithic, would have been 50 or 60, sometimes more. That’s because there was a huge infant mortality, mostly due to infections, congenital anomalies… But people who reached reproductive age (around 15, which would have been considered the threshold of adulthood), could expect to live an extra 30 or 40 years, barring accidents.

    /End nitpickery.

    (Yeah, this is a pet peeve of mine, and an all too common cliché when talking the Ancients or Third World countries. Numbers matter, damn it.)

  23. David Marjanović says

    The centre cannot hold.

    The fawken cannot hear the fawkener.

    Things fall apart.

    TAKE OFF EVERY ‘ZIG’!!

    YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DOING.

    MOVE ‘ZIG’.

    FOR GREAT JUSTICE.

  24. Ogvorbis: strawmadhominem says

    The lettuce was deeply suspicious.

    Of whom?

    . For one thing, I’m really fed up with the “it’s not me saying kill the gays, it’s God” excuse. And I’m totally fed up with the “yeah, I quoted God-inspired text justifying killing gay people, but I didn’t really mean it that way” excuse.

    I am fred up with religious figures, or politicians, on the right threatening people and then getting offended that (a) people were offended and (b) people responded in kind. If I threaten someone, or some group of people, publicly, Why should I be surprised that a few people will respond with threats? The solution? Don’t threaten people.

  25. KG says

    opposablethumbs,

    Which uni(s) might Son like to go to – and which of the sciences is he into?

    Engineering at Edinburgh. When I were a lad, ’twere easy to get onto a good engineering course, but that’s far from the case now. Particularly as the Scottish universities have a financial interest in taking students from other parts of the UK. Even 5 As wouldn’t be a guarantee.

    Incidentally, do the grade boundaries go by absolute percentage marks, or by percentage of the cohort taking it in any one year?)

    I don’t know. Of course even if the latter, it could be that those taking it with him were not a fair sample.

  26. says

    I am fred up with religious figures, or politicians, on the right threatening people…

    Yeah, that really gets my george up, too.

    (/More seriously: I will take such people seriously only if they can prove to me they also do not eat shellfish, do not wear textiles of mixed fabric, and if each is prepapred to prove to me he has 30 shekels of silver on hand for each and every ox he owns, so that he may pay off the owners of any slave such livestock may gore appropriately.)

  27. says

    … now, ‘prepapring’, of course, is a rare legal term related to the furnishing of such financial evidence.

    (/Zounds! Another petard! And it brought its hoist! Where do these damned things keep coming from?)

  28. Richard Austin says

    Something to lift spirits, and hopefully more: Falcon 9 launched successfully this morning.

    In a few days, SpaceX should be the first non-government capsule to dock with the ISS. Once certified, it can get astronauts into orbit more cost-effectively than any other program in existence, including the Chinese space program.

    Oh, and there was a special package tucked away on board today: Doohan finally made it to space.

  29. cicely. Just cicely. says

    To Professor [name withheld for privacy].
    *drinking*

    And yet another entry in the “Bigoted Morons of North Carolina” file: “North Carolina Pastor: Pen In ‘All The Lesbians And Queers’ With An Electrified Fence, Wait For Them To ‘Die Out’”.

    Well the idea of lip-lockin’ with Pastor Worley makes me “pukin’ sick”, but that doesn’t mean that he should be penned up like an animal until he “dies out”.

    Relentlessly mocked, oh yes! And I would support “shunnning”, in the form of having nothing to do with him (easy for me, inasmuch as I don’t live anywhere near N.C.). But not drummed out of society because I find the idea of kissing (or anything else with) him icky, squicky and gross.

    WE FOUND PICKLES!

    Huzzah!

    congratulations on the return of the Prodigal Cat, Audley

    Time to kill the fatted mousie?
    :)

    * come to think of it, that means she is a PEA and possibly in league with horses. I should consult the experts here on how best to deal with this thorny issue.

    Well, I usually recommend herbicides for peas, but I can’t think of anything that reasonably acronymises (at least, not on short notice and before noon) to HERBICIDES, so no help, there. Quarantine her as if she were a rabid Horse?

    No; cut off her Web access. That should at least limit the infestation/infection.

  30. Nutmeg says

    I did it! I came out to my two best friends, and they were both really supportive. One had to leave fairly quickly for a meeting, but I talked to the other for a while afterward. She had known for a while and wasn’t weirded out at all.

    I’m still too relieved and happy to think.

  31. theophontes 777 says

    @ SGBM

    The/Tardigrade/Identity

    o_O

    O_o

    O_O

    o-o

    ….. I’ll work it out….

    @ Nutmeg

    Conga Rat Ululations!

    {calls in large helicopter to drop confetti and hugs}

  32. cicely. Just cicely. says

    ….oh you are soon to discover that poo is the centre of your life….

    Everything Comes Down To Poo

    The lettuce was deeply suspicious.

    “My name is Lettuce and I’m a suspicious bastard.”

    Nutmeg: hurrah! and *hugs*.

  33. opposablethumbs says

    Even 5 As wouldn’t be a guarantee.

    Bloody hell.
    I agree with you that in many respects our generation had it easier than the current lot.
    There are so many things I hate about what has happened to the UK education system in general since I was a student, I can hardly begin to list them.
    I hope he gets into Edinburgh, and that he gets into a uni he loves whether it’s Edinburgh or not. (DaughterSpawn did not get into her top choice, but (apart from one huge crisis of confidence recently) does love it where she is).

  34. opposablethumbs says

    cut off her Web access.

    Done. I’m waiting to see if she notices.

    Nutmeg, YAYYYYYY!!!!! That’s absolutely wonderful; I’m so happy for you ::dances::

  35. rickschauer says

    Louis
    Ahhhh, the hardcore fresh, dubious and very suspicious salad was delicious, Most Gracious Sir! Could feel the love to my deepest, tinest and dirtest tau. Made me quite emotional.

    ~EAC Customer Satisfaction Report~
    (Likert Scale: {1-10} 1=poor, 10=perfect)

    Speed of Service = 10
    Freshness = 10
    Aroma = 10
    Presentation = 10
    Neuron Pleasing Qualities = 10
    Tau Reduction (est.) = 2+
    Overall = 10

    My deepest thanks, it has been a delight being served so graciously and thoughtfully.

    Now, regarding teh orgies, are they in anyway similar to these?
    https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Annie-Sprinkle/305538975195 https://www.facebook.com/events/363137617066198/
    If so please reserve some space for me. The wood needs some huggin’ I will attempt to contact Ms. Sprinkle and bring a friend as well! Perhaps we can get some people to play Hide the Pickle? (..if I can remember how.) All the Best, -R

  36. cicely. Just cicely. says

    Perhaps we can get some people to play Hide the Pickle?

    Apparently, the Pickle is self-hiding.

  37. Louis says

    Rickschauer,

    Well we here at LouisCorp’s EAC division do endeavour to give excellent service.

    However, I’m afraid access to your orgy web-links could not be accomplished as they are on Facebook. I mean, we’re evil, but we’re not that evil. Human sacrifice, yes. Facebook, no.

    It’s about standards.

    Thank you for filling in the Customer Satisfaction card so promptly and kindly. You will find your position in Teh Groop Secks with Louis Queue and the Ghey Secks with Brownian Queue (collectively known has “The Whole Sort of General Fuck Fest”) has been upgraded to “Mauve with a hint of Thursday’s Banana”. Or indeed “Ohh Mrs Simpson!”.

    This can only be regarded as a Good Thing™.

    Excuse me, I have to go and see a man about an albatross.

    {Taps side of nose}

    Know what I mean, guv’nor.

    Louis

  38. Louis says

    Cicely, #42,

    Apparently, the Pickle is self-hiding.

    I am just simply not that fat! How very dare you!

    ;-)

    Louis

  39. Louis says

    Ms Daisy Cutter, #46,

    You monster.

    I am sat in my office literally crying with laughter. Actually red faced and crying. One of my colleagues came over to see if I was dying, and is now similarly wetting herself.

    I *WISH* I could write knob jokes that good!

    Thank you, thank you so much! It warms the cockles of my hard, atheist heart to see the fine British sport of piss taking, moron baiting and knob jokes is going strong.

    Rule Britannia!

    Louis

  40. Nutmeg says

    Thanks for the congratulations, everyone. The adrenaline rush has finally worn off, and now I’m feeling like a nap would be a good idea. Too bad I have a progress report to write.

    Have a *giant pile of hugs and chocolate and puppies*, all of you.

    ♥♥♥

  41. Leo says

    On another note, TheThinkingAtheist also made the Hitchens tribute video that they attempted to play at the Reason Rally, which can be found here.

  42. David Marjanović says

    Nutmeg! *pounce* *hug* ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^

    In a few days, SpaceX should be the first non-government capsule to dock with the ISS. Once certified, it can get astronauts into orbit more cost-effectively than any other program in existence, including the Chinese space program.

    Wow!

    I am sat in my office literally crying with laughter. Actually red faced and crying. One of my colleagues came over to see if I was dying, and is now similarly wetting herself.

    …Huh. Yeah, I laughed at several of them, but most Pharyngula threads are as funny as any of these reviews to me. :-| Didn’t switch my vocal cords on.

    Disclaimer: I only read the first 2 pages. 43? WTF.

  43. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    Bah. Threadrupt since Thursday.

    In the past few days, I have had amazing sushi (thrice) with great people (three separate sets), had amazing Indian with great people, bought $150 of yarn, paraded in the sun dressed all in white, didn’t get sunburned or even tanned in the process (big hats and SPF 50 FTW, and listened to a speech by Jane Lynch. Oh, and griped on the internet about said speech. And fangirled over it. Simultaneously.

    \o/

    So, what did I miss?

  44. dianne says

    But people who reached reproductive age (around 15, which would have been considered the threshold of adulthood), could expect to live an extra 30 or 40 years, barring accidents.

    From way up the thread but…kind of. A person who lived 15 years had a better chance of seeing 60 than one who was just born, but there were a lot of accidents and other events that could easily kill someone in between. Childbirth was extraordinarily dangerous. Minor injuries could kill either through infection or through inability to work again. Virtually any chronic illness was likely to be deadly. Fighting was actually more common then than now, despite all the romantic notions people have about the peaceful hunter gatherers. And so on.

    That having been said, maximum human life expectancy is the same now as when humans first evolved. It’s just that the number of people getting within a decade or two of it before dying is increasing.

  45. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    Re: life expectancy, ages ago I wrote an essay on the topic. Of course, I can’t find it now, but the spurring moment was looking at an actuarial table with someone who noted the lower rate of cancer mortality of people in developing countries. They wondered if they were “doing something right” to avoid dying of cancer. I pointed out that people in developing countries have the exact same odds of getting cancer as people in developed countries. They just have higher odds of dying of something else before getting cancer.

  46. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    Giliell, previous thread:
    I had my thyroid out 5 years ago (due to an acute case of Epic Thyroid Failure). If you want a friendly ear/sounding board for thyroid-related stuff, drop me a line.

  47. says

    Oh dear. This definitely falls into the ARRGGHH! and the headdesk categories.

    “The Heritage Foundation and The Franklin Center want to recognize Andrew’s contribution to journalism, blogging and activism and we’re excited to be able to launch The Breitbart Awards at the Future of Journalism conference in June.”…

    Source.

    Rachel Maddow provides some perspective on her blog:
    http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/22/11813692-and-the-winner-is?lite

  48. Louis says

    David M, #51,

    Oh I confess I have a weakness for humour. Almost any humour. I am something of a comedy slut, I’ll laugh at almost anything!

    I really love bad jokes, just awful, groan worthy, terrible jokes. Top of my current list of terrible jokes is:

    I went to the zoo the other day. It only had one animal in it. It was a dog. It was a shitzu.*

    I know. I’m sorry.

    Louis

    * Shitzu…shit zoo. I know you get it, this is for the lurkers who don’t get English homophones.

  49. ImaginesABeach says

    Louis –

    I suspect I speak for many when I tell you I consider it tragic that you need to take time away from here to eat, sleep, drink, care for toddler, and make love to LouisSpouse. I’m just glad you don’t take time away for work.

  50. Sili says

    I love the shitzu.

    Q: When did the Chinese man make an appointment with his dentist?
    A: 2.30.

    From my kids:
    Q: What mouse walks on two legs?
    A: Mickey Mouse

    Q: What duck walks on two legs?
    A: All ducks walk on two legs.

    Q: Bob’s dad has three sons; the first is Huey, the second is Louie. Who’s the third?


    I love priming!

    Another:
    Pluto is:
    a) a planet
    b) a sun
    c) a star
    d) a dog.

  51. Rip Steakface says

    I saw it was already mentioned by one person here, but:

    http://www.wtsp.com/news/national/article/256113/81/Pastor-wants-to-isolate-gays-until-they-die-out

    “‘I had a way… I figured a way out – a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers – but I couldn’t get it past the Congress,’ he said.”

    “‘Build a great big, large fence – 50 or a 100 miles long – and put all the lesbians in there. Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals – and have that fence electrified so they can’t get out. Feed ’em. And you know in a few years, they’ll die out. You know why? They can’t reproduce.'”

    I’d hate to Godwin, but this guy REEKS of the Final Solution.

  52. dianne says

    I’d hate to Godwin, but this guy REEKS of the Final Solution.

    I don’t think this counts as a Godwin. You’d be hard pressed not to think of the final solution after that remark.

  53. ImaginesABeach says

    My mother sent me an e-mail:

    “I received an emergency appeal from Catholic Relief Services, ‘the official international humanitarian agency of the Catholic community in the United States.’ Normally, I might have been fooled despite the Angel Medallion enclosed, but the Pope has told me this is not appropriate work for the Catholic church so I was not taken in. We old folks can’t be too careful.”

    I can’t decide if her atheism makes this more funny or less funny.

  54. says

    @Rip Steakface:

    Not only is it Final Solution-ish, it’s also stupid logic. I’m sure, given the choice between dying out and reproduction that any population of person – sexual orientation notwithstanding – would be willing to do so.

    Gay men and lesbian women can reproduce – just not with their partners – which is how they’ve done it for years.

  55. Sili says

    @61. None of the above. Pluto is a dwarf planet.

    *bzzzzt*

    The correct answer is d). You fell into the lovely trap of priming your brain to think the answer had to be astronomical.

  56. dianne says

    Pshaw. I’ve never heard of a real dog named Pluto, only a fictional one.

    Actually, I’ve heard it claimed that Pluto the dog was named after Pluto the supposed planet. Makes more sense than his being named after the CEO of hell.

  57. says

    @ dianne:

    A person who lived 15 years had a better chance of seeing 60 than one who was just born, but there were a lot of accidents and other events that could easily kill someone in between.

    You are right that there were a lot of opportunity for death in childbirth, by trauma, etc., so that not every adult reached 60 in prehistoric and ancient times. And life expectancy actually went down during the transition to the Neolithic, due to the increase of population density and the potential for epidemic diseases like smallpox, TB, plague and so on. The rise of early city-states also probably extended the possibilities for war.

    Of course, the way statkstics work, the fact that not all who reached adulthood lived into their old age means that some people did reach a respectable age. That’s why a Bronze Age text like the Ancient Testament can put the “natural” or “God-given” numbers of years as “threescore years and ten”, I guess!

  58. says

    Louis:

    It warms the cockles of my hard, atheist heart

    Huh. You said “hard.”

    But I’m glad I could give you some serious laughs. Seems like you’ve been in need of them the last week or so.

    David:

    Disclaimer: I only read the first 2 pages. 43? WTF.

    Because several hundred guys had to get in on the fun. I mean, consider the Abortionplex. It used to be confined to Topeka, KS, but it’s a franchise now, because Yelp writers wanted to write about the ‘Plexes in their own cities.

    Lynna:

    The Breitbart Awards

    They should be bronze representations of something like this.

    Kitty:
    Q. Why did the elephant paint his balls red?
    A. So he could hide in the apple tree.

    Also:
    Q. What does an elephant use for a tampon?
    A. A sheep.
    Q. Why do elephants have trunks?
    A. Sheep don’t have strings.

  59. says

    Jesus, what a fail-fest this post and its thread are. WON’T SOMEBODY THINK ABOUT TEH POOR AWKWARD MENZ?!?! Yet the burden of “calling out” inappropriate behavior is still on the women, despite JT admitting to knowing the penalties women can incur for same.

    Oh, and don’t miss John Horstman straight-splaining to Josh that it’s totally not offensive when straight people of the same sex pretend to be GLB and flirt with one another. Or him and Shaunphilly derailing the conversation to insist that assuming a wedding ring means monogamy is “oppression” of poly people. Or various menz whining about how haaaaarrrrrrd it is to read body language, because a woman who’s glaring at you with her arms crossed might just be cold, and the poor d00d might lose a prime flirting opportunity!

  60. birgerjohansson says

    The Konzentrationslager bloke apparently thinks LGBT people are differentiated from “straight” people by genes or something.
    Or maybe he thinks people choose to be gay when they see other gay people who dress well/ fulfil some other gay stereotype.
    If he was not so creepy he would be funny.

    Here is a potential goldmine for Jon Stewart.

    BTW Pluto started off as a minor god and ended up as a minor planet. And don’t get me started on coproliths. They are crappy fossils.

  61. Sili says

    Of course, the way statkstics work, the fact that not all who reached adulthood lived into their old age means that some people did reach a respectable age.

    Hence why I, and most of us, have more than an average number of legs.

  62. Dhorvath, OM says

    Daisy Cutter, I am trying. The nested comments have me bewildered, so it takes a bit to sift and reply.

  63. Dhorvath, OM says

    Daisy Cutter, I can barely function here, the nesting crumbles my reading comprehension.

  64. says

    Q. Why did the elephant paint his balls red?
    A. So he could hide in the apple tree.

    Have you ever seen an elephant in an apple tree? No? See how well it works!

    Esteleth
    Thanks. At the moment I’m still between hoping that the diagnosis and treatment will improve my health, since I’m definetly suffering from some of the symptoms, but I’m also really freaked out about this chronically ill with life-long medication thing. And looking at my sister doesn’t exactly help.

  65. says

    It’s a YMMV thing, but I think LiveJournal, Dreamwidth, and websites with similar code do nesting well, for the most part. Conversations are collapsed after a certain number of comments and must be manually expanded. Of course, when internet connections are slow, getting everything expanded can be extremely frustrating, and if the discussion gets deep enough you still run into problems with indentation.

  66. Ogvorbis: strawmadhominem says

    Why do elephants where tennies?

    Because elevnies are too big, and ninesies are too small.

    How can you tell where an elephant has been?

    By the stickers on his trunk.

  67. says

    Q: How do you notice that there was an elephant in your fridge:
    A: By the tracks in the butter.

    Q: How do you fit two elephants into your fridge?
    A: Open the door, put in the elephants, close door.

    Q: How do you fit two giraffes into your fridge?
    A: Open the door, take out the elephants, put in the giraffes, close door.

  68. ImaginesABeach says

    What is the difference between an elephant and a grape?

    An elephant is grey.

  69. says

    Q. How do you hunt a blue elephant?

    A. With a blue elephant gun.

    Q. How do you hunt a yellow elephant?

    A. With a yellow elephant gun.

    Q. How do you hunt a red elephant?

    A. Hold its nose until it turns blue, then shoot it with a blue elephant gun.

  70. rickschauer says

    Louis@44
    First, my deepest apologies for providing a link either above -or – below your level of evil. It was totally unintended and must be a new symptom of my pitiful neural folds as they work diligently to sort things out on a daily basis.
    I’m hoping to hear back soon from Boston U, Center for the Study of CTE, soon and will query or is that queery them on this disturbing new development. Ms. Sprinkle is, however, a very accomplished orgy’ist and has a home here as well but I warn it may be NSFO – if not working in an afterhours house of delighful women.

    Two, sincere thanks for the kind offer and clarifications regarding teh orgy. I’ll report back on which side of the fence I prefer later but wish you to know these things are getting a little dicey these days as the folding machine in my head is gyrating wildly so I may need reservations for both queues…hope it’s not a problem.

    Three, your assessment of
    Ms. Daisy Cutter, Gynofascist in a Spiffy Hugo Boss Uniform is spot-on.

    In my darkness*, I witnessed a blinding ray of light so intense from that link of hers I nearly passed-out which is not a good thing for me to do as I’ve had a number of unintended unconscious moments pretending I’m Lindsey Vonn’s boyfriend and need no more.

    Finally, grab me an albatross or two if you’ve the time and a dime…please be sure it is nice and shiny. It may clear may nasal passages and blow my frontal cortex away in a manner more preferable than Junior Seau’s old gun I’m eyeing up in the corner.

    *made mush better today by the incredible theraputic qualities here!

  71. amblebury says

    Ah Louis, Louis. The shitzu joke is a firm favourite of mine, and can be spun out to remarkable lengths.

    Perhaps you are familiar with the rabbit who walked into a bar? Hopped onto a stool, and ordered a half of lager, and a cheese and tomato toasted sandwich. (It must have been one of those gastro-pubs.)Surprised at the peculiarity of having a lagomorph customer, the bartender nonetheless maintained her composure and filled the order.

    Over several weeks, the rabbit frequented the establishment, always enjoying the same lager and the cheese and tomato toastie. One evening, he threw caution to the wind and decided on the cheese and onion.

    He wasn’t seen for weeks afterward. The bartender mourned the loss of a rabbit she had come to regard as a friend. Closing up one evening, she saw his ghostly apparition seated o his old bar stool. “Whatever became of you?” she exclaimed.

    “I was a fool” he replied. “It was mixing my toasties.”

  72. says

    Q: Why do ducks have large, webbed feet?

    A: To stamp out forest fires.

    Q: Why do elephants have large, flat feet?

    A: To stamp out burning ducks.

  73. says

    Threadrupt.

    My cats are indoor cats too. I love http://www.boomerangtags.com. On the back side I use two of the available lines to put “if I’m outside, I’m lost!”

    A few of mine are chipped as well but like Katherine said, not everyone knows to check for chips. And if Gourd forbid the worst happens, a chip will not necessarily prevent someone from throwing the body out with the trash, and me never to know what happened.

  74. says

    (A neighbor actually did throw out the body of one of my favorite cats with his trash. I don’t blame him. The cat had gotten out, slipped his collar and gotten hit by a car in the span of a few hours as best we could figure out. The neighbor found the body and had no way of knowing whether it was a stray or what. When Misterc went door to door to tell everyone we had lost a cat, Neighbor immediately put two and two together and went and got the body for us to bury.)

  75. Ogvorbis: strawmadhominem says

    This is from a Bar Harbor Times edition from back in January:

    Anjali Appadurai, a third-year student at College of the Atlantic, was chosen byt the youth delegates attending the United Nations Framework COnvention on Climate Change, or UN-FCCC to offer the final Youth Statement to the full body of the meetings.

    Declaring that she was speaking for almost half the population of the world by speaking for youth, Ms. Appadurai asked the gathered dignitaries from around the globe, “Where is the courage in this room?”

    Referring to the meeting’s inability to come to a consensus on a definitive treaty, she warned, “These will be seen as he defining moments of an era in which narrow self-interest prevailed over science, reason, and common sense.”

    Upon finishing the speech, Artur Runge-Metzger of Germany, the head of the International Climate Negotiations – European commission, said, clearly moved by the talk, “On a purely personal note I wonder why we let not speak half of the world’s population first in this converence but only last.”

    The speech can be read on the student’s blog at http://earthinbrackets.org/blog/ . . . .

    Ms. Appadurai, a native of Coquitlam, British COlpmbia, Canada, is one of nine delagates from COA [College of the Atlantic] who attended the meetings in Durban, South Africa. . . .”

    Bravo!

    Q: Why do ducks have large, webbed feet?

    A: To stamp out forest fires.

    Q: Why do elephants Park Rangers have large, flat feet?

    Fixed that one for you.

    ======

    When I was in third grade, I ordered a book from Junior Scholastic. The book was The Complete Book of Elephant Jokes. It was not actually complete (the sheep joke, for instance, was not in there (nor would I have understood it)). One week after recieving the book, my father took me aside and explained that if I told more than one elephant joke per week he would no longer stop my sisters from pounding the crap out of me.

    A: To stamp out burning ducks.

  76. Ogvorbis: strawmadhominem says

    And I have no idea how I managed to drop the flaming ducks down to the bottom of my comment.

  77. Owlmirror says

    Gah!

    Scienceblogs has changed over!

    *shock* *horror*

    All the comments are GONE!

    Tetrapod Zoology posts are naked and empty.

    Pharyngula comments are no more.

    Woe! Woe! Woe!

    Did anyone take a backup?

  78. carlie says

    The lion, king of the jungle, called a meeting of all of the animals, and sent the elephants to tell everyone about it. Who were the only ones who didn’t show up?

    The giraffes. They were stuck in the refrigerator.

  79. carlie says

    Dood. How are we going to have cage fights over seniority if there are no comment archives to prove how long we’ve been nattering about?

  80. Ogvorbis: strawmadhominem says

    Ohnoes. My evidence of being a dorky stupid are gone

    This means my fire stories are gone. Can I start repeating on myself?

    This is the internet. Don’t worry, nothing disappears.

    Damn. That means I have to still try to remember which stories I have told.

    I’ve been on the blog since 1971! I’m clearly the superiorest! Look back at the blog archives, no wait you can’t, therefore I win.

    I’ve been on it since 1966! So there!

  81. Dhorvath, OM says

    Don’t make me pull out the antediluvian time line of my residence.

  82. amblebury says

    Mixing my toasties —-> myxomatosis

    Sorry! It works well when spoken, and I didn’t want to do the patronising “explain the joke” thing.

    It’s a fine line between not wanting to irritate people by giving them information they can figure out themselves, and irritating them by making them go, “Buh?”

    Too tricksy, I say.

  83. carlie says

    Oh yeah? Back when I got on this blog, we had to walk uphill both ways to generate enough electricity to type out our comments, and we had to do it all in binary morse code by passenger pigeon.

  84. Ogvorbis: strawmadhominem says

    Oh yeah? Back when I got on this blog, we had to walk uphill both ways to generate enough electricity to type out our comments, and we had to do it all in binary morse code by passenger pigeon.

    Yeah? You were lucky to have pigeons. I had to make do with a maniraptoran theropod. And I can still only count to nineteen!

  85. Owlmirror says

    Wait.

    There are recent comments on the sidebar — except that there’s only one per thread (in the sidebar), mostly responding to some previous, and now absent, comment.

    Two comments in the sidebar are SPAM.

    WTF?

  86. says

    You were lucky to have pigeons. I had to make do with a maniraptoran theropod. And I can still only count to nineteen.

    I hope it was some combination of two fingers or toes you lost…

  87. Owlmirror says

    I hate how many sites — including the new Sb — color comments as fucking light gray.

    Who thought that was a good idea? WordPress?

    Fuck WordPress.

  88. LDTR says

    kristenc, your story @98 gave me chills.

    At the end of March, one of our cats got out. She was ancient (21) and had various medical issues though she still seemed to have her mental faculties and grumpy-but-lovable personality intact. She also had never been inclined to go outdoors, so we didn’t bother with a collar. But that night my husband had the back door open a lot. She was lying on my chest, then got up and walked away, and we haven’t seen her since. (We just about turned the house upside down and she’s not in here.)

    The obvious thought is that she wandered off to be alone for the end, probably to the overgrown area out back (too overgrown to search). But now I’ve got this awful mental image.

    :-(

    (I’m sorry, I don’t mean to keep only posting about deaths. We’ve actually managed to not have any of our family or friends pass away for a couple of weeks now.)

  89. Louis says

    PZ Ngmjrz, #58,

    Did you just threaten me with banning for a bad joke?

    I’m so proud I could cry!

    Louis

  90. Louis says

    ImaginesABeach, #59,

    Very kind of you to say so. I do take time away from Pharyngula to work, but there are certain types of paperwork I have to do that my over active procrastination gland has yet to fully be combated upon. The gland, it exudes procrastinatin (the hormone of slackness) all over the paper work and suddenly the internet is magic!

    I will confess to a certain degree of sleep deprivation and caffeine power today though. Plus I was available for a really well timed moron on The Great Renovation thread. I’m normally awake whilst America is still asleep, and in bed as you American night owls get active! So I front loaded a lot of Pharyngulatory fun today.

    Which reminds me, paper work is all done, it’s 2 am, my reactions are on over night, my fume cupboard is insanely clean, I’m still ahead on the reactions per week and project progress leader board I set up for the team. Therefore I can go to bed with a relatively clean conscience. I’ve only managed to neglect my wife and child tonight, but it’s not like they’re important or anything… ;-)

    Louis

  91. Rey Fox says

    Oh yeah? I’m a 5,000-year-old dragon and I’ve been on this blog since the Bronze Age!

  92. Part-Time Insomniac, Zombie Porcupine Nox Arcana Fan says

    Louis: Just looked up myxomatosis. Ew.

    Toasties, however, are quite yummy.
    ———————————————

    Just narrowly avoided disaster. Spilled soy milk on my keyboard earlier. Aside from unplugging it, turning it over to let the liquid drain out and sopping up what I could with toilet paper, I found a tip about using isopropyl alcohol (yes, this was after I’d cleaned the board as best as I could with the paper). I think the preferred is something higher than the 70% we have in the house, but it seems to have done the trick. No keys are sticking, no missed keystrokes, nothing like that. Whew! Wish I’d known this back when I had a laptop, might’ve saved me some trouble.
    ———————————————-

    Nutmeg: WHOO HOO! *confetti and cookies*
    ———————————————-

    Gillel: I hope it’s not Hashimoto’s. On the upside, at least that’s treatable (although, I’m willing to bet, pricey).

  93. life is like a pitbull with lipstick ॐ says

    Did anyone take a backup?

    Yes: http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/

    But: “It generally takes 6 months or more (up to 24 months) for pages to appear in the Wayback Machine after they are collected, because of delays in transferring material to long-term storage and indexing, or the requirements of our collection partners.”

    Currently there’s nothing more recent than July 27.

  94. Cipher, OM, MQ says

    God fucking dammit. I needed one of my comments from elevatorgate.

  95. ImaginesABeach says

    I told my GirlChild the flaming duck joke. She told me there is nothing funny about setting wildlife on fire.

    So I told her that one of the regulars here is an NPS Park Ranger who puts out forest fires, and she said, “please tell me he doesn’t have a helper duck.”

    Have I missed a fire story with a helper duck?

  96. LDTR says

    A parade of fucks? (per #130) Now that I’d pay to see.

    I meant to say before: Nutmeg, glad your coming out went so well. It’s so nice to hear some good news for a change. :-)

  97. Cipher, OM, MQ says

    I’m actually mildly puzzled/surprised because I never heard that joke with a nationality in it before. It was “When is it time to go to the dentist? 2:30!” And I’m not Asian and pass for white, so it wasn’t that people were eliding a nationality reference around me either.

    I choked on my iced coffee today in class, spent some time coughing, and now my throat really hurts. I don’t know if these things are related or what.

  98. Pteryxx says

    I choked on my iced coffee today in class, spent some time coughing, and now my throat really hurts. I don’t know if these things are related or what.

    They can be, yeah… either from a throat spasm due to choking, or from abruptly coughing so hard that various folds get stressed. (Or from a sharp bit of ice leaving a scratch.)

    More threadrupt than usual… hope everyone and their companion animals and/or art projects are well.

  99. cicely. Just cicely. says

    And don’t get me started on coproliths. They are crappy fossils.

    *holding nose and jumping out window*

    Q: Why do ducks have large, webbed feet?
    A: To stamp out forest fires.
    Q: Why do elephants Park Rangers have large, flat feet?

    To stamp out flaming elephants.

  100. says

    Oh crap, LDTR, I’m sorry. I felt like it was tactful enough to tell that story here since we knew that Pickles was okay, but I forgot that other people have probably lost cats. I hope it wasn’t too upsetting for anyone.

    It absolutely gutted me. As I say, he was one of my favorite cats — when he was a young kitten I had rescued him from a dog kennel in the scorching sun at a yard sale (!), underweight and covered in fleas, and as far as he was concerned I was a goddess. So quite apart from the grief of his death I felt like I had really let him down.

  101. Hekuni Cat, MQG says

    Giliell, I’m sorry about your thyroid. I hope your treatment goes well.

  102. d(thunk) over d(MQ) = SQRRAWK! says

    Well hello again.

    Threadrupt. Again.

    Giliell: Ouch. I have the privilege in having my body in good working order. My sympathies.

    And of course, the necessary moral panic. Rampant sexism within my building– maybe a minor slap on the wrist, some “stop that”, and everything comes back to normal. Voicing any concerns gets me an expression of concern (and some derision from my classmates), but hardly anything gets done. But when it’s potty-mouth language– suddenly THAT’s a grave offense. *rage*.

    Will people grow out of double standards with this?

  103. d(thunk) over d(MQ) = SQRRAWK! says

    It was all the “fucks” wasn’t it? NatGeo just couldn’t handle the parade of fucks.

    Damn, that was fun.

    .

    Yes. BUT THE MORAL PANIC!!!

  104. life is like a pitbull with lipstick ॐ says

    God fucking dammit. I needed one of my comments from elevatorgate.

    CC, the Google Cache is still working, and probably will be for a couple more days (but go and get the threads you want and save them to your hard drive just in case).

  105. life is like a pitbull with lipstick ॐ says

    Hmmmmmmm. Google Cache seems to not have the “Always name names” thread. Haven’t checked for the others.

    Luckily there is also Bing Cache.

    (Seems you have to have Javascript turned on to make Bing’s dropdown link show up.)

  106. LDTR says

    kristenc @139: no worries. And sympathies to you as well. What a terrible thing to happen.

    I’m really 99.99% sure that our old cat is under a bush somewhere. We have no nearby neighbors who I can picture doing such a thing, intentionally or not. It was just one of those terrible “what if” flashes that make no sense when you think them out.

  107. LDTR says

    Sorry, kristinc, I remember thinking I was going to spell your nym right this time, and I went and did it the same way as before. :-P

  108. life is like a pitbull with lipstick ॐ says

    Probably, unless Bing is using frames.

    You can take the .htm files and open them up in Notepad, scroll halfway through and see if you find the text of comments. If so then you’re good.

  109. says

    Umm…

    (Hold up hand, looking slightly embarrassed…)

    I totally didn’t get the 2:30 == ‘tooth hurty’ thing.

    But, umm, also, seriously, in my defense?

    Whoinhell really says ‘tooth hurty’? How am I even supposed to get that?

    Also a bit alarming: I was assuming, based on this apparently completely missing it that ‘2:30’ was just a totally random answer, and this was the point. As in: how would you know? Why would you know? What kind of a stupid question is this? So. Fine. 2:30. Whatever. There. Happy?

    (/Stranger still, I guess I should probably also be grateful, in retrospect. As, oddly enough, I actually did kinda find it funny, read it that way.)

  110. The Laughing Coyote (Canis Sativa) says

    Whoo! These big n easy bottle brew things are awesome! I’m gonna buy as many as I can now! They should be ready as soon as I run out of money, so it works out!

  111. theophontes 777 says

    @ Gilliel

    *hugs*

    @ birger

    BTW Pluto started off as a minor god

    No…. he started off just like Zeus/Jove and Poseidon/Neptune, but drew the wrong straw. (Pluto/Hades drew lots with his brothers for determining their realms.)

    @ Kitty

    Huzzah! I have started a trend!

    Oy Vey!

    What goes: greyyellowgreyyellowgreyyellowgreyyellowgreyyellowgreyyellowgreyyellowgreyyellowgreyyellowgreyyellow…?

    .
    .
    .

    (An elephant rolling down a hill with a daisy in its mouth :)

    @ life is like a pitbull with lipstick ॐ

    I managed to open the first part, but not the second. I got :

    7-Zip [64] 9.20 Copyright (c) 1999-2010 Igor Pavlov 2010-11-18
    p7zip Version 9.20 (locale=en_US.UTF-8,Utf16=on,HugeFiles=on,2 CPUs)

    Error: /home/tardigrade’s_cray_supercomputer/Desktop/cyber/64bit.7z.002: Can not open file as archive

    Errors: 1

    (I don’t want to trouble you too much. I’ll be travelling for the next few days as it is.)

  112. Dhorvath, OM says

    Weed Monkey, I transgressed, surely at least one should have accompanied my comment.

  113. Cipher, OM, MQ says

    I freaking love yogurt raisins. Yes, they’re probably way bad for me, but at least eating them in my my trail mixish things induces me to eat other dried fruits and nuts. And I love them.
    I do.
    That’s all.

  114. life is like a pitbull with lipstick ॐ says

    theophontes,

    I managed to open the first part, but not the second. I got :

    One of us will feel like a fool after I say this (probably it’ll be me), but they’re just one “file” split in two. So first they should be placed in the same folder, and then if you start to unzip the .7z.001 it should automatically hook the other one and work seamlessly.

    If that was a silly thing for me to say, then give me the md5 hashes of them both so I check whether it was google, hotmail or me that fucked up.

  115. opposablethumbs says

    thunk

    Will people grow out of double standards with this?

    Sadly, no.

  116. theophontes 777 says

    @ life is like a pitbull with lipstick ॐ

    MEA CULPA!

    Up and running. {does little eight legged dance} I can now connect to farcebook (which is definitely verboten in these parts).

    it should automatically hook the other one and work seamlessly.

    This is what made the penny drop.

    {invokes large number of icy cold beers into ॐ’s fridge}

  117. says

    It’s tragic, but sick cats do wander. I suppose the consolation is that they’re dying in the way they choose. (Bloody daft Plummet ran off for several days, and missed out on all the painkillers, milk and meat that I had planned to make his last days happy. When a neighbour found him, he was so far gone it was the end.)

    Elephants:
    Q. What did Tarzan say when he saw a herd of elephants coming over the hill?
    A. Swim for your lives!!!

  118. StevoR says

    @ 70. dianne :

    Pshaw. I’ve never heard of a real dog named Pluto, only a fictional one. Actually, I’ve heard it claimed that Pluto the dog was named after Pluto the supposed planet. Makes more sense than his being named after the CEO of hell.

    There’s good strory behind the name of planet Pluto (& yes dwraf planets are planets too in my book.) From here :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluto#Name

    The discovery made headlines across the globe. The Lowell Observatory, which had the right to name the new object, received over 1,000 suggestions from all over the world, ranging from Atlas to Zymal. Tombaugh urged Slipher to suggest a name for the new object quickly before someone else did. Constance Lowell proposed Zeus, then Percival and finally Constance. These suggestions were disregarded. The name Pluto was proposed by Venetia Burney (1918–2009), an eleven-year-old schoolgirl in Oxford, England. Venetia was interested in classical mythology as well as astronomy, and considered the name, a name for the god of the underworld, appropriate for such a presumably dark and cold world. She suggested it in a conversation with her grandfather Falconer Madan, a former librarian at the University of Oxford’s Bodleian Library. Madan passed the name to Professor Herbert Hall Turner, who then cabled it to colleagues in the United States.

    The object was officially named on March 24, 1930. Each member of the Lowell Observatory was allowed to vote on a short-list of three: Minerva (which was already the name for an asteroid), Cronus (which had lost reputation through being proposed by the unpopular astronomer Thomas Jefferson Jackson See), and Pluto. Pluto received every vote. The name was announced on May 1, 1930. Upon the announcement, Madan gave Venetia five pounds (£5) (£234 as of 2012), as a reward.

    Plus see also here :

    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/05/08/venetia-phair-the-woman-names-pluto-has-died/

    via the Bad Astronomy blog.

    @34. Nutmeg : Congratulations! Glad it went well for you.

  119. John Morales says

    PS, ॐ, I appreciate your encouragement to use RequestPolicy.

    (I’m very happy with it)

  120. theophontes 777 says

    @ John

    ॐ, you did good.

    Indeed! Teh pitbull is frikkin’ amazing.

    {calls up another music video on youtube (youtube!!!) and starts ululating to the sounds of cyberfreedom}

    So this is what it feels like to stop banging one’s head against a wall!

  121. John Morales says

    Teh pitbull is frikkin’ amazing.

    Pretty much responsible for the Wiki, too.

    (Been a while since I’ve coded anything, but I think I could reach some basic competence quickly with some minor mentoring. I have a knack.)

  122. says

    Urgh, what a day.
    Had to drag a kicking, screaming and and crying kid to kindergarten.
    Why was she kicking, screaming and crying?
    Because she was only wearing a T-shirt and her undies.
    Why was she only wearing T-shirt and undies?
    Because that was all she managed to put on in one solid hour which meant that we were already running 30 minutes late.
    I suspect she’ll get dressed more quickly tomorrow…

  123. John Morales says

    Giliell, you may argh, but know that you have undertaken a task I’ve (successfully) avoided because I feared the responsibility.

    Kudos.

  124. Tony says

    Nutmeg @34:

    I did it! I came out to my two best friends, and they were both really supportive. One had to leave fairly quickly for a meeting, but I talked to the other for a while afterward. She had known for a while and wasn’t weirded out at all.

    I’m still too relieved and happy to think.

    That is great!
    I’m glad they responded in a supportive fashion. Coming out is difficult for a lot of people and support can be vital.
    ___________________________________

    Cipher:

    I freaking love yogurt raisins. Yes, they’re probably way bad for me, but at least eating them in my my trail mixish things induces me to eat other dried fruits and nuts. And I love them.
    I do.
    That’s all.

    You must not have heard…scientists recently discovered that raisins are evil. Apparently they’re satan spawn and as such should not be consumed by any humans. Due to my advanced intellect, I was able to reach this conclusion at the age of 10 when I felt an incredible rush of evil come over me after eating a bowl of oatmeal topped with…raisins. The consumption of raisins led me to perform evil acts like throwing communion wafers to ducks, making paper airplanes out of pages of the Bible, and tweaking He-Man’s mantra into “I haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave the power…of Xenu”. The evil took some time to dispel. I had to consume a special batch of brownies every day for two weeks.
    Other ‘thou shall not eat’ food include brussel sprouts, mushrooms (the magic ones are an exception as they provide a certain stimulus), tomatoes (they may be used however, when you chant an incantation above them that reduces them to chunks, dices, paste or sauce), sauerkraut, chitterlings (dear mom and dad: I think I still smell them on my clothes 20 years later), and liver (among the first on the list).
    Dangling on the fence between ‘eat/not eat’ are spam and ramen noodles (both of which have been sitting on the fence since I built it, shortly after God created humans for the second time in Genesis…so I’m oldest)

  125. Moggie says

    Audley, does that mean that you’re advertising to everyone at work that you’re prepared for anything? In my workplace, that would be unwise.

  126. Ogvorbis: strawmadhominem says

    Good morning, Horde!

    Good morning. Happy Monday.

    Today is going to be a good day. How do I know this? ‘Cos I’m wearing my Batman shirt at work.

    Sometimes I like wearing a uniform. Other times I get jealous. I can’t wear a batman shirt to work.

    I am the Bat.

    And according to the innerrent word of gods, you are a bird.

  127. Ogvorbis: strawmadhominem says

    I have an extremely low tolerance for camp.

    Well, camp can be really intents.

  128. says

    Oggie,
    Yeah, my job is really relaxed about dress code. Normally, management and sales staff are expected to wear polo shirts with the company logo, but since I don’t fit in my old shirts, I can wear whatever the hell I want, just like everyone else in my office. :)

    I am the BirdBat.

  129. Antiochus Epiphanes says

    Threadrupt as well…but,
    With the not so imminent immolation of all things unseemly at SB, I have peaked at the thread-which-shall-not-be-named*. Moses-jumped-bacK, it’s all about us. Seriously. It reminds me of what must have passed for conversation as General Zod, Ursa, and Non hurtled through the Phantom Zone, congratulating each other on their superior lot and what a complete yutz Superman is.

    *I hadn’t given it a thought since last summer’s puke-fest, but the fucker is going strong.

  130. opposablethumbs says

    Well I was going to say that but Antiochus Epiphanes got in first :)

  131. says

    Oh dear, I’m reading through the JT Flirting fuck-up and the amount of “but body language and subtle clues are sooo hard, there’s nothing universal about them you have to risk me being an asshole who kicks in your teeth and tell me out straight” is, as usually, disgusting.

  132. birgerjohansson says

    …So if Jove and Neptune “accidentally” fell off the mountain where the gods live, Pluto would become the Head Biggie? Considering how the gods normally acted (cannibalism, murder, rape) Jove and Neptune must have been afraid of ever turning their backs to Pluto.
    BTW I have just ordered a second-hand copy of “That Darn Squid God” from Amazon.
    — — — — — — — —
    “Study shows how to keep a Mars tumbleweed rover moving on rocky terrain” http://phys.org/news/2012-05-mars-tumbleweed-rover-rocky-terrain.html

    So if you want to learn about Mars, the answer is blowing in the wind?

  133. says

    Giliell: Yes. Between that, the hetsplaining, and the whining from JT and others when told they’re not acting like allies, the whole thing is a massive fucking failpile.

    I was never impressed by JT, and this certainly doesn’t improve my opinion of him.

    Moggie: Alain de Botton, trying to redefine porn for all us lesser beings? Given that his career consists of strenuous public wanking, why not.

    From the Register article to which Freeman links:

    …philosopher Alain De Botton is taking on sex in a new digital venture that will attempt to position pornography – mostly the online iteration- as a therapeutic tool rather than a grubby thrill.

    The philosopher is in the midst of building a website called ‘Better Porn,’ which aims to spotlight the higher art of online sexcapades.

    FFS. You know, I’m fine with trying to make porn more ethical, but people who want all of it to be “high-minded” are as tedious as the school of feminists who want all of it to be strenuously equal. There’s much to be said for sex as a “grubby thrill.”

    He had this to say in his recent Q&A with the Guardian:

    It is perhaps only people who haven’t felt the full power of sex over their logical selves who can remain uncensorious and liberally ‘modern’ on the subject. Philosophies of sexual liberation appeal mostly to people who don’t have anything too destructive or weird that that they wish to do once they have been liberated.

    However, anyone who has experienced the power of sex in general and internet pornography in particular to reroute our priorities is unlikely to be so sanguine about liberty. Pornography, like alcohol and drugs, weakens our ability to endure the kinds of suffering that are necessary for us to direct our lives properly. In particular, it reduces our capacity to tolerate those two ambiguous goods, anxiety and boredom.

    In other words, even porn or erotica that causes no objective harm to anyone else must be “cleaned up” because otherwise Rick Warden will go around fucking barnyard animals, and those of us who get off on low-minded consensual scenarios will be to blame.

    Also, as a sufferer of clinical-level anxiety, I suggest de Botton go fuck himself and post the video to his new site.

    The rest of the Q&A is also revealing. One woman challenges him on his use of a universal male pronoun and the word “mankind.” Another woman asks him if he’s given any thoughts to non-heterosexuality. He ducks the questions. A man asks him why some people suffer from sexual shyness, and de Botton asserts that “We’re shy perhaps out of a very wise awareness that burdening anyone with our being is rather a demand to make.” No, you pretentious asshat, respectful reticence isn’t shyness.

    I rather like this:

    I’d like to ask Alain de Botton, if it’s not too late (or do I mean forward) whether getting into a position of pontification is sexually satisfying – and do staff highlights heighten the pleasure?

    The response:

    Sexually satisfying? No, there’s very little connection between answering questions on the Guardian blog and having sex.

  134. Pteryxx says

    AE: that particular set of italics is making appearances in the conference-harassment threads too. (I could go find a link if anyone cares.)

  135. Dhorvath, OM says

    Disgusting. The only people protected by that, don’t need the added safety.

  136. says

    Kat,
    *sigh* I’m not surprised that the NY lege is trying to ban anonymous speech– they refuse to pass any sort of comprehensive ethics reform bill, yet they whine endlessly about being criticized ‘cos they’re really fucking corrupt. They do not want to be held accountable for their actions and it appears that they don’t care who knows it anymore.

    And who knows what Prince Andrew Gov Cuomo will do with a bill like that? My gut says that he would sign it. All that a New Yorker can hope for is the usual Albany political gridlock keeping this bill from being passed.

  137. chigau (違う) says

    I have a fever.
    I’m slightly delirious and none of this thread makes sense.
    Except yay Pickles!
    and
    Q: How did Tarzan die?
    A: Picking apples.

  138. opposablethumbs says

    So, Alain de Botton is desperately looking for a way to enjoy sex and porn without coming off as one of us lesser being who do icky things … Oh, as a second thought: de Botton should just take a leave out of Sgt. -Colon’s book: It’s OK if there’s a plinth or an urn

    rotflmao and also very likely.

    And on a slightly tangential note, John Berger in Ways of Seeing

    You painted a naked woman because you enjoyed looking at her, you put a mirror in her hand and you called the painting Vanity, thus morally condemning the woman whose nakedness you had depicted for your own pleasure.

  139. StevoR says

    @opposablethumbs :

    on a slightly tangential note, John Berger in Ways of Seeing :

    “You painted a naked woman because you enjoyed looking at her, you put a mirror in her hand and you called the painting Vanity, thus morally condemning the woman whose nakedness you had depicted for your own pleasure.”

    Plus in art history from what I vaguely recall a broken mirror = a non-virgin for that extra dose of slut-shamin’ creepy.

    Good quote, so true.

  140. says

    You know that two-faced, (possibly three-faced), jowly sack of mendaciousness, Mitch McConnell? Well, said Old White Guy of very little brain has started his reelection campaign 30 months before his seat comes up for a vote. Conclusions: he is running scared, and he wants to negatively affect Obama’s reputation by paying to have McConnell lies repeated (blechh).

    Source for quotes below: Link

    If you’ve heard Sen. Mitch McConnell speaking on television any time in the past six months, you’ve most likely heard him say that President Barack Obama “got everything he wanted” through Congress. It’s all on Obama’s shoulders, since he rammed every liberal policy he possibly could into law.

    Which is, of course, quite false. Filibustering every bill in sight required a litany of bills to be watered down (stimulus, health care reform, Wall Street reform), and many were blocked altogether despite the support of just under 60 senators and the full House (climate change, DREAM Act).

    And those statements also quite jarringly contradict the first new video released (yes, already) for his 2014 re-election campaign today, which tells viewers that McConnell singlehandedly blocked Obama from getting any of his agenda passed by Congress: [see source link for video]

    Credit where it is do: At least this video is much more honest. Mitch McConnell is quite adept at obstructing legislation — the most prolific abuser of the filibuster in American history — in order to politically harm a sitting president.

    As you can see in the video, McConnell also loves it when people talk about how important and powerful he is. In 2008, McConnell’s campaign theme was the same, yet it consisted of telling voters how much pork and federal spending he was able to deliver to Kentucky through his real ultimate power. Since that’s now out of favor, his new theme is how he was able to block any progress that Obama wanted, so that he could be a one-term president. In other words, the campaign is less “Country First” or “Kentucky First,” and more “McConnell First.”

    That is, unless you actually believe McConnell’s statements saying that Obama got everything he wanted, in which case Mitch McConnell is a giant failure. Mitch assumes that you’ll overlook the contradiction.

  141. says

    Daisy,
    I hadn’t thought about that. It would be so fucking gratifying to see NYS GOoPers getting fucked over for once.

    How is this even possible to enforce, though? The bill wouldn’t stop me from anonymously calling Conte a fuckface in a public forum like this, so what’s to stop bloggers and news sources and whatnot from just moving their shit to out of state servers?

    Chigau:
    :(

    Yay, Pickles! She does appear to have one injury– at some point (probably falling out of the window) she scraped her knee. We checked it (no inflammation or imbedded gravel or anything) and gently cleaned it and it seems like it’s not bothering her at all.

    She’s been super affectionate lately, too. :)

  142. says

    A nearly 50-year-old bullying allegation against Mitt Romney doesn’t faze many voters, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll. Most Americans see the incident — recounted by some of Romney’s high school classmates in a Washington Post story — as not serious, and almost all, 90 percent, say it is not a voting issue. Moreover, three-quarters of those polled say it is simply not fair to bring up political candidates did when they were in high school.

  143. Sili says

    Moreover, three-quarters of those polled say it is simply not fair to bring up political candidates did when they were in high school.

    *Phew*

    Future candidates can inhale freely now.

    Free at last! Thank Cod Alnighty, our free atlas!

  144. Dhorvath, OM says

    Moreover, three-quarters of those polled say it is simply not fair to bring up political candidates did when they were in high school.

    Unless it’s something good.

  145. Ogvorbis: strawmadhominem says

    Moreover, three-quarters of those polled say it is simply not fair to bring up political candidates did when they were in high school.

    What if a liberal smoked pot in high school? Would voters think that was important? I am so fucking fred up with IOKIYAR!

  146. Ogvorbis: strawmadhominem says

    And I have no idea where the ‘r’ is coming from when I try to type ‘fed.’

    All hail Tpyos!

  147. Richard Austin says

    Men move into women’s jobs, even though there are no high-paying women’s jobs

    That’s the title, but here’s the kicker:

    We divided “women’s” jobs into low- and middle-wage jobs, as a stand-in for training. (We defined middle-wage jobs as those that pay $30,000 to $60,000 a year. There are no high-paying occupations among those that are dominated by women.)

    That’s a startling statement, isn’t it? “There are no high-paying occupations among those that are dominated by women.” After however many waves of feminism and women going to college, entering the workforce, all the advances of recent decades, and there is still not one female-dominated occupation that ranks as high-paying.

  148. The Laughing Coyote (Canis Sativa) says

    IOKIYAR

    Over the year or so I’ve been here, I’ve gotten fairly good at mentally decoding the various acronyms that fly around.

    But this one has me completely bewildered.

  149. Richard Austin says

    TLC:

    It’s OK if you are Republican/you’re a Republican.

    E.G, the GOP free pass.

  150. The Laughing Coyote (Canis Sativa) says

    Richard and Ogvorbis: Ah, thank you. That makes sense.

  151. says

    BLAUUUGHHHHH I just caught a glimpse of my cat’s ear over the top of the armoire, and thought for a split second that it was the biggest spider ever climbing across my wall. Stop that, brain!

  152. Richard Austin says

    Giliell:
    Three hours? Bah, I could spend that driving to the other side of Los Angeles if it’s rush hour :P

    (No way you can get there, huh? I assume other responsibilities are acting as preventatives. :( )

  153. Sili says

    Drat, PZ is in Cologne, there’s an amount of other Pharyngulites on their way and I’m stuck a mere 3 hours drive away from them :(

    I’m not on the train yet.

    But just to rub it in: I’ll be spending two days in Berlin with the Marjanović as well.

  154. says

    Guess what? If you’re a woman and you don’t think JT is being your ally with his “what about teh awkward menz?!” post, you’re obviously not rational enough to work such a problem out for yourself. (Scroll down for that li’l gem.)

    Thanks for showing your hand, JT. You’re yet another FTB blogger I can safely disregard as primarily interested in his image as an ally.

    (Oh, and who else is surprised that Ace of Sevens is being a clueless shitbrick throughout that thread, too?)

  155. says

    Richard Austin, my TWS compelled me to check out the comment thread no that dK diary.

    Well, I see a physician’s assistant who makes good money. The plural of my anecdote is data. Also, wimminz should be doctors bcuz they’re good with people, but they shouldn’t be surgeons because medical schools would have to lower their standards.”

    And that dipshit is going into social work. FSM help his “clients.”

    Another idiot is quoting the Atlantic‘s whiny “The End of Men” article. Baawww, teh poor white menz have to lower themselves and take service jobs, like they’re women or PoC or something!

  156. Richard Austin says

    Ms. Daisy,

    Yeah, kos is not immune to the derp, unfortunately; TPM does slightly better, but I think that’s because they’re linked to real names (FB) for comments now. But at least it’s generally limited to the comments and not the articles (even the diaries, at least those that get noticed, are often pretty privilege-aware).

  157. Dhorvath, OM says

    But JT is an ally, he says so so it must be true. Gah! I thought I was getting somewhere, now I see I was just spinning wheels.

  158. says

    Richard Austin
    Well, only if I make the trip there and back again between 9am and 3 pm tomorrow. With a toddler in tow. Or between 12:30 and 4pm on Friday. Not realistic options, I’m afraid.

    Sili
    well, my hope is that some day I#ll make it to my relatives in berlin and then force DDMFM to show the kids all the dinosaurs :)

  159. Rev. BigDumbChimp says

    Gay comic book characters wed, CNN writes about it, comments freak out.

    North Guy
    NOT GOING TO RELAX….GOING TO BAN MARVEL COMICS AND BEGIN TO FIGHT POLITICALLY. RELIGIOUS FREEDOM IS AT STAKE HERE…AND NEEDS TO BE TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY. THE GAY COMMUNITY ARE TRYING TO CHANGE LAWS THAT WILL CHANGE ALL FORMS OF FREEDOM IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY, THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN FIGHTING DISCRIMINATION….NO, THEY WANT THE WHOLE PIE…AND WE NEED TO STAND UP AND FIGHT. THE NEXT STEP WILL BE TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL FOR A CHURCH – NOT TO MARRY THEM…..RIGHT? BELIEVE ME – THAT IS WHERE THIS IS GOING. I DO NOT HATE ANYONE….NOR DO I WANT TO SEE ANYONE BULLIED OR DEPRIVED OF HUMAN RIGHTS. BUT WHEN A KID CANNOT GO TO SCHOOL WITH A SHIRT THAT SAYS JESUS LOVES ME….WE ARE ALREADY IN DEEP WATER. GOD LOVES EVERY SOUL ON THIS PLANET – BUT I WILL NEVER LOOK UP AT HEAVEN AND TELL GOD HE HAS MADE A MISTAKE IN HIS ORIGINAL INTENTION FOR THE HUMAN RACE. MARRIAGE IS FOR A MAN AND A WOMAN. I HAVE THE RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH – BUT THAT IS IN JEOPARDY RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK. STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM BECAUSE IT IS HANGING BY A THIN THREAD

  160. d(thunk) over d(MQ) = SQRRAWK! says

    opposablethumbs:

    Why?

    Maybe it’s just easier for people to deal with superficial problems. I shouldn’t hold my breath.

  161. mero says

    @230, Rev BDC, quoting some other asshat

    “BUT I WILL NEVER LOOK UP AT HEAVEN AND TELL GOD HE HAS MADE A MISTAKE IN HIS ORIGINAL INTENTION FOR THE HUMAN RACE.”

    So shut the fuck up, you whiny fundie. We don’t want to hear it either.

    FFS. Sounds like the Time Cube guy.

  162. David Marjanović says

    Not caught up. Just saying that my and Sili’s accommodation woes came to an end tonight; I booked what seems to have been the last affordable double room in the city. While it’s not close to the conference venue, it’s right next to a subway station. :-) And it’s hardly more expensive than a hostel room. :-)

  163. David Marjanović says

    well, my hope is that some day I#ll make it to my relatives in berlin and then force DDMFM to show the kids all the dinosaurs :)

    Yesssssss!!! All the dinosaurs!!! ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^

    You’d probably like to come when Jules is here: after July 8th. That should further increase the squeeing over dinosaurs. ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^

  164. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    That was some major herpaderp, Rev. Jebus.

    Went to a fascinating seminar today. Speaker talked about developing a microarray of genes for zebrafish development. Called the microarray “fish n’ chips.” I laughed.

  165. David Marjanović says

    *Jurassic Park theme*

    What if a liberal smoked pot in high school? Would voters think that was important?

    Only if he ever inhaled.

    *sound of mass headdesking in the distance*

  166. d(thunk) over d(MQ) = SQRRAWK! says

    Ms. Daisy Cutter:

    Guess what? If you’re a woman and you don’t think JT is being your ally with his “what about teh awkward menz?!” post, you’re obviously not rational enough to work such a problem out for yourself. (Scroll down for that li’l gem.)

    Thanks for showing your hand, JT. You’re yet another FTB blogger I can safely disregard as primarily interested in his image as an ally.

    (Oh, and who else is surprised that Ace of Sevens is being a clueless shitbrick throughout that thread, too?)

    Sigh.

    At first, I thought he was awesome. But now… no. NO. That’s epic fail.

    (Yes– I have major problems with social skills to. But I try to listen to people who point out that I’m wrong. I often screw up, though).

  167. David Marjanović says

    Tetrapod Zoology posts are naked and empty.

    Pharyngula comments are no more.

    Woe! Woe! Woe!

    As I’ve said on SciAm Tet Zoo, the entire slimepit has been ported. (It’s paginated now.) Go look it up if you dare.

    Someone also said that very old Pharyngula posts have their comments.

    I conclude that Sb comments are being ported one blog at a time, starting with the smallest (and/or slimiest), over several days.

  168. Sili says

    I booked what seems to have been the last affordable double room in the city.

    Do they have internet?

  169. David Marjanović says

    Fuck, I should have turned the <b> tag off.

    Yes, Sili, there’s free WLAN, and breakfast is included, too.

    I’ll read that JT post later.

  170. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    I really hate the variant of “but socially awkward men can’t tell!” that is “butbutbut ASPERGER’S!”
    Speaking as someone who HAS an autism spectrum disorder, the idea that people with ASDs are unfeeling and social inept really pisses me off. Because seriously.

  171. Sili says

    I conclude that Sb comments are being ported one blog at a time, starting with the smallest (and/or slimiest), over several days.

    If they can wrestle the greased pig, it should be no problem moving the shaggy dog as well.

  172. Ogvorbis says

    Speaking as someone who HAS an autism spectrum disorder, the idea that people with ASDs are unfeeling and social inept really pisses me off.

    Seconded. For me and Boy.

  173. Sili says

    Speaking of pr0n, I just received a story commission (a ‘lemon’ the kids call it for some reason), based on picture I’d also commissioned.

    It’s been a long time since I last read fanfiction, but this pleased me much. The characterisation was just as a wanted (even if 90% of the fandom would want to slit my throat for it).

    Life is good.

  174. says

    David
    You’re actually tempting me.
    #1’s kindergarten is closed anyway at that time and we won’t be on holiday yet. How long’s Jules staying? Won’t make it the week after the 9th (I’m having a genuine weekend off).
    On a sidenote: I’m my own worst enemy. I was already typing a response to you why I can’t possibly make it…

    beatrice
    Did I tell you recently that I love you?

    ++++
    Something positive:
    From Stephanie Zwan:

    In the last 24 hours, I’ve received confirmations from six conference organizers, five of them for atheist conferences, that their conferences would now have formal, visible harassment policies. Five of them had no official policies before that.

  175. Cipher, OM, MQ says

    Can I just tell you how absurdly cute my brother is? My family has a robin pair nesting on the front porch, and my brother’s been watching since the first robin started building his nest. (Incidentally, it was built on a teeny ledge and got blown down, and my stepdad nailed a little mesh cup thingy to the place where he was trying to build it and put the stuff back in. My whole family is kind of adorable at times.) The robins have babies now. When my brother saw them, he got misty-eyed. Because he was proud of them.

  176. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    The wireless internet at work sucks. Randomly drops connections, slow as fuck.

    So today, while rummaging in my bag, I noticed an ethernet port on the wall. Stuck a cable in it, stuck the other end in my computer.

    Hooray! I am be-internetted! \o/

  177. Rev. BigDumbChimp says

    Letter to the editor today in Charleston’s Post and Courier.

    Atheists, Hush
    Blaise Pascal was a 17th century French mathematician and physicist for whom a computer language is named. Pascal said that it makes more sense to bet that there is a god than that there is not.

    He surmised that, if you bet there is no god and it turns out that there is, you could lose your soul for all eternity. When you die, that is that.

    However, if you bet there is a god and it turns out that there isn’t, what have you lost? Think of living with God through all eternity — the most pleasant experience you can imagine.

    Atheists who are strong in their convictions don’t need to make a lot of noise about who they are. They don’t need billboards trying to convince people.

    D. L. Aydlette Jr.
    Fort Johnson Road

    Charleston

    I sent in a response but it stands exactly zero chance of being printed. The P&C is staunchy conservative fish wrap.

    Mind you we have “Got Faith” and Church billboards all over the god damn place in Charleston.

    And this idiot completely misses the result of Pascal’s wager.

    Not surprisingly.

  178. Ogvorbis says

    I don’t remember anybody making a big deal of this.

    I know a few conservatives who, personally, made a really big deal of that. I can also remember bumper stickers conflating Obama’s drug use and gang activity. And I know some conservatives who still say, loudly and often, that Obama cannot be the legal President as he cannot get a top secret security clearance because of his drug use.

    I remember a few articles, and editorials, but you are correct — compared to the brouhaha about Clinton, it was restrained in the mainstream press.

  179. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    Jebus, Rev., do you seek out epic herpaderp?

    As an expression of Pascal’s wager (which is already stupid), that was impressively stupid.

  180. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    You are not wrong about that, Daisy. And like fish, we are constantly inhaling it and barely notice that it is there.
    And the other fish think we’re stupid for complaining about it.

  181. opposablethumbs says

    @ thunk #231 – not saying it’ll never happen, just going on past performance and coming up a tad pessimistic :(

  182. Rey Fox says

    Think of living with God through all eternity — the most pleasant experience you can imagine.

    ICK ICK BLECK

    Guy probably thinks he’s enlightened because he left out the Hell shtick.

  183. life is like a pitbull with lipstick ॐ says

    Up and running. {does little eight legged dance} I can now connect to farcebook (which is definitely “verboten” in these parts).

    Neat. I’ve always been curious about whether I could get through the Great Firewall, but it’s not quite justification for buying plane tickets.

    Harder question is whether I could do it if I’d been born in China and had no friends outside the country.

    Thanks for the beer!

    Pretty much responsible for the Wiki, too.

    Where “responsible” involves neither maintaining the server nor writing much of the content. But sure, I’ve tried to make it easier to use.

  184. life is like a pitbull with lipstick ॐ says

    Wow, Ogvorbis, I guess that doesn’t surprise me, but somehow it just wasn’t on my radar.

    I do have a cousin who thinks the guy’s a Muslim born in Kenya, but I didn’t hear any talk about drug use as far as I can remember.

  185. says

    Mormons, and other patriarchal communities, take note: stay-at-home-moms are more depressed. Even though many of them have been conditioned not to admit they are depressed, these women show up in surveys as more depressed than working-out-of-the-home moms.

    In the latest unfortunate news at the intersection of motherhood and politics, stay-at-home moms are doing worse emotionally than their working counterparts. According to a Gallup poll released last week, mothers who don’t work outside the home were far more likely to be depressed, with 28 percent reporting depression, compared with 17 percent of working mothers, and also 17 percent of working women who don’t have children. In fact, stay-at-home moms fare worse than these two groups by every emotional measure in the survey, reporting more anger, sadness, stress, and worry. They were more likely to describe themselves as struggling and suffering and less likely to see themselves as “thriving.”

    Full article here.

  186. birgerjohansson says

    If you like obscure European films with subtitles you might have come across the film “Evil” based on the novel by Jan Guillou. It is about a teenager in the 1950s who is brutalised by his stepfather, becomes a bully, and is sent to an expensive boarding school where he and the younger pupils are brutalised by the elder students in a systematically pennalistic system.
    .
    -Anyway, this evening Swedish TV had a documentary about a posh, exclusive boarding school where the royal family -and everybody who is nobody- sends their kids.
    It turns out that brutal pennalism has continued thorough the history of the school, including recent times. Footage showed the principal dismissing claims about beatings, and in the same program former staff and students shared testimonies about horrific abuse going on during the same period the principal was giving “a clean bil of health”.

    Even members of the conservative-led Swedish government have been deeply disturbed by what has been revealed.
    And this is where future business leaders and politicians have their formative years.

    My reaction is “drive a bulldozer through the whole crap”. The tradition of abuse must be severed or it goes on forever.
    — — — —
    To those who think school behaviour has no relevance for those who later become politicians I say this: the Brit PM was an arsehole in college. He was part of a club of posh students who would trash restaurants and then contemptously throw a bundle of money to the staff for the damage.
    Today he is leader of the country and is thrashing healthcare and the social services based on an ideology that is at odds with the experience from the depression.

    Mittens was an arsehole in college, and went on to become a corporate raider. Now he wants to become president…

  187. Ogvorbis says

    Mittens was an arsehole in college, and went on to become a corporate raider. Now he wants to become president…

    W. Bush also had a questionable reputation at Yale. And he destroyed companies. And look what a great job he did to US.

  188. says

    Dear Applica Consumer Products,

    I followed your return process to return a Juiceman stick blender for warranty replacement. I explicitly asked you to confirm that you would replace my Juiceman stick blender. And proceeded to wait almost a month for the package you told me was coming.

    I would be fascinated to hear, therefore, why the fuck there was a BLACK AND DECKER FIVE SPEED HAND MIXER on my porch this afternoon.

    No love,

    Kristin

  189. Rey Fox says

    W. Bush also had a questionable reputation at Yale. And he destroyed companies. And look what a great job he did to US.

    But at least he they weren’t commuuuuunity orrrrrganizers.

  190. says

    What’s the name of those boxes they pin bugs into for etymological display?

    I’m disappointed. I thought it was the setup for a joke.

  191. Dhorvath, OM says

    SQB,

    What’s the name of those boxes they pin bugs into for etymological display?

    I’m disappointed. I thought it was the setup for a joke.

    So elephants wasn’t the answer?

  192. Ogvorbis says

    I would be fascinated to hear, therefore, why the fuck there was a BLACK AND DECKER FIVE SPEED HAND MIXER on my porch this afternoon.

    Maybe it was cheaper? It still mixes things? It uses electricity?

  193. says

    An icy phone call to Applica has yielded the information that someone did think it was an acceptable substitute for my twice as expensive stick blender that does completely different things and serves completely different kitchen purposes. *deep breaths*

    A chat was had.

    My correct replacement is supposedly on its way now, and they don’t even want their crappy Black & Decker mixer back.

  194. Sili says

    What’s wrong with Black&Decker?

    I need a new stickblender, actually. I ruined the cheap one …

  195. Sili says

    Woman kicked off American Airlines flight for wearing a T-shirt that says, “If I wanted the government in my womb, I’d fuck a senator.”

    Trouble is lots of senators seem to prefer young, male interns. (Ensign and Witter excepted.)

  196. says

    Sili, I’m spoiled: I have a Kitchen Aid for large projects and I had my wonderful Juiceman stick blender for smaller projects. Either of them are more powerful than a B&D hand mixer, more efficient in their respective spheres, and overall more useful.

  197. Sili says

    Well, I don’t have B&D in the kitchen, but my little weedwhacker serves my small need well.

  198. says

    Over from Jen’s:

    One of the reasons they are keeping it secret is because one of the names involved is a popular and frequent poster at various FTB threads, who is actually held in high regard by many in the FTB community.

    They would be suprised if the name of the young buck came out.

    Now, guys, own up, whom of you is it?
    *gg*

  199. carlie says

    Yeah, after banging my head against the wall at JT’s I decided to head over to BlagHag for a bit of a break.

    Fuuuuuuu…

  200. Sili says

    They would be suprised if the name of the young buck came out.

    Huh? Walton wasn’t in Dublin.

    And even had he been, he would be beating himself up publicly about having transgressed.

    Hmmm – I just realised that he’s much like the Penny Arcade version of Piro in that regard.

  201. Nutmeg says

    kristinc:

    My instructor looked over my second paper today and said “PLEASE be an English major.”

    Congrats!

    Esteleth:

    Speaker talked about developing a microarray of genes for zebrafish development. Called the microarray “fish n’ chips.”

    I can’t decide whether to laugh or groan.

  202. chigau (違う) says

    The person who did the wall-art in my hotel room has never actually seen a mountain reflected in a lake.

  203. Cipher, OM, MQ says

    MarkDoesStuff has now watched The Body.
    But the review isn’t going up til next week.
    Boo.

  204. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    Nutmeg:
    Would you laugh or groan at a transgenic zebrafish that is a double knockout for rayorbison (and is thus completely transparent) being called “casper”?

    That was also at the seminar.

  205. carlie says

    I love Mark Does Stuff! I read Mark Reads Things even for things I don’t read. That’s one of those blogs that I discover, love, gorge on, and promptly forget for months until someone reminds me of it, repeat. I’m not sure why I can’t keep it in my head. Mark Reads Twilight was epic.

  206. Nutmeg says

    Ah, Casper the translucent zebrafish. I do like nerdy humour. Verdict: quick laugh, followed by a slight groan.

  207. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    My reaction was similar, Nutmeg.

    Later, I was irritated that there were no refreshments. Because seriously.

  208. Nutmeg says

    No refreshments? And they expect people to go to seminar? Ridiculous!

    If I had it my way, the refreshments would be served before the lecture, so that people could load up on caffeine and sugar. It doesn’t matter how good the speaker is, I’ll make it about 30 minutes listening to a talk before I start yawning. Cookies would help. (Cookies always help.)

  209. Cipher, OM, MQ says

    You mean, Mark saw The Body and he’s still functioning? I’m shocked.

    Yep. Everyone was pretty worried about him for a while there, but he tweeted about it a few days ago and seems to be functional, though he says, not okay. He linked to his review of the Dumbledore chapter in HP wherein he discussed his father’s death, as “homework” for that post.

    (Last time I was talking about MarkDoesStuff, I didn’t link to anything I was talking about and it was confusing for everybody, so now I’m linking to everything!)

  210. carlie says

    I guess I’ve been living under a rock, because I’ve never seen two het guys mock-flirting with each other before, and I just learned about it.

    And also, ew.

    You flirt when you like someone and want to flirt, not to make fun of other people and how they interact with people they like.

    Ew.

  211. says

    Hi Oggie!

    I just watched Modern Marvels’ episode on steam power. And they did included a portion on steampunk, and concentrated on applied steampunk.

    They also had great locomotive sections, nuclear steam, walking beam riverboats, steam shovels, &c.

    The only thing they missed was your bailiwick. Haruumph.

  212. Ogvorbis says

    The only thing they missed was your bailiwick. Haruumph.

    Modern European military history (well, that’s my degree)? Mesozoic vertebrates (my current obsession)? Oh. You mean steam locomotives. They show up in the a few of the shows — our locomotives, even. Don’t remember which episodes.

    Right now, I’m watching Celtics vs. 76ers. Go Celts!

  213. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    Chigau:

    America’s Funniest Home Videos aren’t funny.

    You only just now figured this out?

  214. says

    I dunno about a blanket condemnation of the het guys flirting thing. I think it’s context-dependent, it can be OK, it can be terrible. I’ve seen two young “het” guys flirting and then one growing up into an adult bi guy and the other going meh, not for me, and staying straight. And two het guys pashing off with intent to annoy anti-gay fundies. If it’s not mockery of gay people, but comfortable affection or support or exploration, I think it’s nice.

  215. says

    Only in Utah. A young woman very nicely and modestly dressed runs afoul of mormon school administrators who seem to be applying dress codes I’ve seen in mormon Young Women’s lessons….but this is a secular school.

    http://adultonsetatheist.blogspot.com/2012/05/burqa.html

    Luckily I was working at home, so I took a camera and rushed over to the junior high school with some dungarees and a sack-like shirt for AYD to change into. This is a picture of her in the school’s front office, and this is the apparently inappropriate outfit she was wearing.

    Scroll down on the linked page to see the photo.

  216. carlie says

    A friend of mine is moving away shortly, and we’re having a little going=away bash tomorrow. I’ve put a cheesecake in the oven for the party. It’s got a chocolate graham cracker crust, an almond-flavored layer, a dark chocolate layer, and a vanilla layer, and will have a semi-sweet chocolate glaze. The recipe is a tried-and-true for me, so I hope nothing goes wrong.

    If you hear lots of cursing later, it’s because I’m being stupid enough to try painting some mint leaves with melted chocolate to make chocolate leaves. That part of it I haven’t tried before.

  217. carlie says

    The recipe is from a trial pack of 3-ring binder “Southern Cooking” recipes I got once in the mail. You people who are younger than dirt won’t know about these, but back in the olden days, you would sometimes get junk mail in the physical mailbox on your house that had things like recipe cards, with the promise of more every month if you would only subscribe, and someday two or three years forward you’d have a full cookbook that only cost about four times total what one would in the store. I didn’t ever go for it, but I did save the trial cards. Some weren’t too bad.

  218. Ogvorbis says

    I’ve put a cheesecake in the oven for the party. It’s got a chocolate graham cracker crust, an almond-flavored layer, a dark chocolate layer, and a vanilla layer, and will have a semi-sweet chocolate glaze.

    I just unplugged all of my USB ports. And I am waiting.

  219. Part-Time Insomniac, Zombie Porcupine Nox Arcana Fan says

    OK, no one warned me that my keyboard keys were going to feel a bit “off” after that near-loss. It’s a bit annoying, especially the space key. Well at least the thing works still.
    ——————————————————-

    WOOT! That piece of property that’s been giving us nothing but grief for the past few years is gone! Sold! And best of all, it looks like the money Mom will get from the sale will be more than enough to help pay off loans and have some for spending money in Ireland! And now that someone else is in charge, no more stupid and nasty tenants to chase after for overdue rent!
    ——————————————————–

    Not touching the Mormon madness and JT twit-assery yet.

  220. says

    Carlie, I hate to presume, but are you painting the leaves on parchment and then transferring them? If they are thick enough, it’s the easiest way to deal with chocolate appliqués.

    I typed all that (two whole fricken lines, people!) before I realized that you are painting the leaves themselves. Never mind. I should just delete all this but, i’ll just edit it after I submit.

    Crap.

  221. theophontes 777 says

    @ Brogg

    I’ve put a cheesecake in the oven for the party. It’s got a chocolate graham cracker crust, an almond-flavored layer, a dark chocolate layer, and a vanilla layer, and will have a semi-sweet chocolate glaze.

    I just unplugged all of my USB ports. And I am waiting.

    Linky: Ah’ve got that covered!

  222. Dhorvath, OM says

    Carlie,
    I have seen it since I was quite young, and I still don’t know quite how I feel about it. Surely led to my first male kisses, but I don’t know as that’s super important in the grand scheme of things.

  223. Pteryxx says

    PTI: Congratz on the property sale! That must be a ton of stress evaporated, *and* bonus moniez!

  224. carlie says

    MikeG- yes, will be trying on actual leaves. The recipe suggests mint, and I have a lot of that, but they still seem a little flimsy to be trying a paint and peel method. We’ll see. I think I’ll save that part for the morning.

    Recipe is easy-peasy. I adapted the amounts a bit to make them more uniform and easier to remember.

    “Southern Living” triple layer cheesecake

    Each of the three layers has an 8 oz brick of cream cheese. Two have 1/4 cup of sugar each, one has 1/3 cup of brown sugar instead. Cream each, add an egg each and cream again. To the one with brown sugar, add 1/2 tsp of vanilla extract, 1 tbsp of flour, and if you want, 1/4 cup of chopped pecans (I’ve never done that). To one of the others, add 1/2 cup of sour cream, 2 oz of melted semisweet or dark baking chocolate (not pure baking chocolate), and 1/2 tsp of vanilla. To the last one, add 1 cup of sour cream and 1/2 tsp of almond extract (this layer is supposed to be 5 oz of cream cheese, but who measures 5/8 of a brick? I just throw the whole lump in). Cream each separately until fluffy, then put in pan. Oh, the pan.

    Crust is supposed to be 9 oz (2 cups) of chocolate graham cracker crust, 1/4 cup of sugar, and 1/2 stick of melted butter (1/4 cup). I just use two of the three packets that are in the 14 oz box (close enough), and in reality it ends up taking a whole stick of butter to get it to stick well enough on the sides of the pan. I use a springform pan, because I like to see the sides of the cheesecake when it’s done. I do chill it a bit after patting the crust in, to try and limit the amount of crusty bits that make their way into the batter before it cooks. Layer the three sets of batter as you like into the pan, cook at 325 degrees F (with an oven-safe bowl of water in the oven next to it) for an hour, let it sit in the oven with the heat turned off for another half hour, open the oven door and let it sit another half hour before taking it out. Chill.

    Chocolate glaze – 6 oz semisweet baking chocolate, 1/4 cup butter, 3/4 cup powdered sugar, 2 tbsp hot water, and 1 tsp vanilla. Melt all together, spread over chilled cake.

  225. says

    Dhorvath, as I said above, I think it’s context dependent and can be perfectly OK at times. And I think your experience is relevant, when people are growing up on an assumption of default heterosexuality and anti-gay stigma. If a gay boy can get his first kiss or a straight boy can learn not to go ewww at teh ghey, those are good outcomes. I would not want to discourage happy same-sex flirting among straight people, especially young ones who might not be quite as straight as they seem. It’s the “haha bro NO HOMO” crowd that’s the nasty case.

    I’m saying this here, so as not to detract from Ms Daisy & Josh’s point over at JT’s. Because they do have an important point that I don’t want to undermine with “but, but, but context” pedantry. It’s not exactly a thread full of savvy context-aware non-homophobe non-sexist people, that one over there. Sadly. It seemed initially promising.

  226. Dhorvath, OM says

    Alethea, I hear you on the promise. Things went elsewhere. I too didn’t know how to comment on that particular topic without making matters worse but as the topic came over here it seemed I might get a chance to tease at the idea a bit.

  227. Ogvorbis says

    Since erodinbladewin isn’t using them, I’ll add them here:

    ””””””””””””””””””””””””’
    ””””””””””””””””””””””””’
    ””””””””””””””””””””””””’
    ””””””””””””””””””””””””’
    ””””””””””””””””””””””””’

    G’night, all. I’ll tune in in the morning and find out if xe has actually grokked the difference between proof and evidence. I am fred up with the little asshole.

  228. Nutmeg says

    Thanks for the cheesecake recipe, carlie! I’ve added it to my list of Pharyngula recipes. Hopefully I’ll have an excuse to try it soon.

  229. Part-Time Insomniac, Zombie Porcupine Nox Arcana Fan says

    Pteryxx and carlie: I almost hugged Mom when she came home with the news! That place should have gone to my aunt and grandma, who somehow got the beach house instead (and that ended up being sold not that many years ago since my aunt couldn’t afford to keep it. Because she’s not the best at spending money wisely, to put it mildly.)

  230. Pteryxx says

    question for whoever: What’s the little dip of flour in the cheesecake for? It’s *almost* gluten-free except for that, and the crust (still not sure how to solve that one).

  231. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    I got curious by Oggie’s comment so I wandered up to look at the recent comments list.

    So then I read the telekinesis thread.

    WHAT.

  232. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    Pteryxx, little dips of flour are usually there as a thickening agent. You can usually substitute corn starch.

  233. says

    You people who are younger than dirt won’t know about these, but back in the olden days, you would sometimes get junk mail in the physical mailbox on your house that had things like recipe cards, with the promise of more every month if you would only subscribe

    One of my elderly neighbors, when I lived in a different place than I do now, brought me over a handful of those sorts of magazines. I had just done some weeding in the front yard, which I had let get into a state, but I thought it was just a coincidence that he happened to drop by and give them to me. It wasn’t till he came by a different day and actually showed me another pile of the magazines but wouldn’t let me have them because the yard didn’t look good enough yet that I realized he was trying to bribe me to tidy up my yard O.o

    Anyway, yes, I have seen those magazines. I still have a make-ahead manicotti recipe from one of them that’s pretty good, although I am sure not authentically Italian.

  234. says

    Good morning

    Alethea
    I think I see a difference here. What Josh et. al. criticised were criticising was especially this idea of fake-joke-gay fliriting in which the participants show that they’re soo cool and enlightened that they can do dah gay.
    In that case it’s a form of cultural appropriation at the expense of the marginalized group.
    There’ve been a couple of videos where guys kiss in order to protest anti-gay bigots. At least in one case, the one in a sports stadium, I got the impression that one of the kissing guys was there with his girl-friend and did the kissing as an act of protest and solidarity.
    I’d say that’s a difference. I’d say that’s the same difference between a white person wearing a “I’m Tryvon Martin” shirt as an act of solidarity and a white person going on about “hey brothers and sisters, what’s up”.
    And since I’m white and straight it’s totally possible that I’ve put my foot in deeply here.
    Personally, I like flirting best when it’s explicitely not going anywhere, so some of my best flirting was with a gay friend: exercising a fun activity in a safe environment for both of us.

  235. amblebury says

    I read the beer post.

    I read the pastry post.

    I check the ‘frig. There is both beer and strudel within!

    Therefore, Dog.

  236. amblebury says

    I’m a nonUknian, opposablethumbs. I sign Avaaz petitions frequently, this one included.

  237. says

    Hi Giliell, yeah, I think we basically agree. I didn’t think the oh so deep and fine subtlety of “mocking” vs “not mocking” would be understood in that thread. Reading comprehension, they didn’t seem strong on it. Your excellent posts being a case in point.

  238. opposablethumbs says

    Personally, I like flirting best when it’s explicitly not going anywhere,

    Giliell

    I do too, which reminds me of a power imbalance problem: flirting can be very enjoyable and make you feel good, but it’s often difficult or impossible for women to enjoy this particular pleasure – a man can flirt if he wants to without anyone feeling he’s actually promising/committing himself to anything by it, whereas a woman who flirts may be slammed for not “following through” on an implied promise. The bloke gets to have the fun (and of course it is fun, when it’s “safe”) and can stop at whatever point he wants; a woman is a “tease”. And of course the difference in average size and physical strength factors into that, together with our cultural expectations. So a woman flirting with a straight man has to constantly watch her step and hold back and worry about being perceived as having committed herself to having sex (or being a “tease”, of course) which spoils the fun imo. There’s a lot to be said for the pleasure of indulging in some flirtatious behaviour for its own sake, when both parties are taking part in the sure and certain knowledge that it is not and could never be expected by either party to go anywhere. FSM but my writing skills are worse than usual this morning.

  239. consciousness razor says

    Personally, I like flirting best when it’s explicitely not going anywhere, so some of my best flirting was with a gay friend: exercising a fun activity in a safe environment for both of us.

    Hmm. I wouldn’t call that flirting.

    But I have found myself “actually” flirting with friends in that sort of situation. When I realize what I’m doing it’s not so fun, even though they don’t realize it. When they keep going along with it in a playful friendly sort of way, I just feel awkward. More awkward than usual.

  240. opposablethumbs says

    Yay Pharyngula, probably one of the best places ever for a petition like that! ::waves to amblebury::
    I just thought I should post, in case the UK-specific target made anyone feel the call for sigs might be aimed at UKanians only.

  241. says

    consciousness razor
    There seems to be some discussion going around the very term flirting and some people suggested that there’s “flirting with and without bigger intent”.
    Maybe we need to seperate them

    Thanks, Alethea

    And I’m getting mightily annoyed with Katie Hartman. Guess she’s a pal of Mallorie’s. And then there’s the “saint Gasoline” idiot again with “oh those social rules have nothing to do with patriarchy bullshit.”
    These discussions always bring out the best and the worst.

    As for JT, I think he’s a kid who got a lot of cookies for not being as bad as the other boys. I he hope will grow up, I’m not going to write him off completely yet.

  242. Louis says

    I would like it to go on record that I am flirting with all of you, all the time, and I damned well expect it to go somewhere. I don’t have a massive orgiastic Groop Secks pile for nothing. Do you think deviancy like this comes easy? Oh no, it takes practise. Lots and lots of moist, sweaty, slightly flushed practise.

    Oh you can come over all sensitive and worried if you like. But that will just make your position in the queue-pile slightly different. In the end, three things are certain, death, taxes, and filth involving me. I’m working on ending death and taxes (which are totally, ya know, like punishment or something).

    I now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

    Louis

    P.S. Darlings. Some of the above, maybe even all of it, is really, REALLY, not serious. Please take it in the spirit it was intended, i.e. one of gentle self-mockery and playfulness.

    P.P.S. I apologise in advance to Chas for posting. I know it disturbs him if I go over the quota he has assigned me.

  243. carlie says

    Pteryxx, little dips of flour are usually there as a thickening agent. You can usually substitute corn starch.

    That was my thought too – since that layer is the one with potential pecans, that making it a bit thicker would keep the nuts suspended a little better so they wouldn’t migrate downwards to the bottom of the cheesecake.

    It made it through cooking and cooling down without cracking, yay! Now for the leaves and cursing.

  244. says

    Hi there, could someone let me know if my blog is accessible ? I haven’t been able to log in all day from here….

  245. says

    Thanks amblebury, things may have to wait until I get to Singapore on Monday then. Carlie or Josh, if I give you the keys to the castle, would you do some maintenance for me and post some kind of brb notice?

  246. says

    Blaaaaaaaargh….

    Caramel mocha – delicious
    Insufficiently stirred caramel mocha – DISGUSTING

    I need to finish the short story on my blog. It’s hard cause the point at the end of that chapter is where the dream ended for me, so everything following has to conclude the story and be pulled out of my head.

    I may follow it up with a short “cop drama” story that I’ve had in back of my mind for years.

  247. ChasCPeterson says

    Louis, I’m disturbed all right, and as soon as I master the dark art of telekinetically making my enemies almost crap themselves you’re first up against the wall.

  248. carlie says

    rorschach – sure, I’d be glad to. Just let me know exactly what you want me to do (and what settings I shouldn’t touch lest they explode the blog into millions of irretrievable fragments). My email is carliesinternet at yahoo, which I think is the one I use to comment there.

    Fucking mint leaves and fucking chocolate. Didn’t exactly work. I think the recipe is rubbish on that account – it might have worked if I had done three separate coatings and left them for about 5 minutes each, rather than one coat for 10 minutes. Too brittle, and too thin to not melt immediately upon touch. The combination of shattering and melting was not good. I did spray the leaves with cooking spray first, which I think helped (and was definitely not part of the recipe). I got enough fragments to make a pretend decoration that looks like a 12 year old did it, which I guess is a little better than a 5 year old.

  249. says

    @Giliell:

    Yes, I just have to figure out how to END it XD

    The cop drama thing is fun because when my brother graduated from college, I was kind of semi-lost and wandered towards the back of the auditorium. The door was locked, but I saw graduates going in and out of the place. I stood there (this was the years before cell phones were super popular) and waited for my parents to come find me.

    While I was there, there was this group of four security guards, just generally chatting away. They were all totally characters you could see in a police drama on the TV, one was the older gruff police captain, one was a kind of bumbling deputy, one was the tough take-charge woman, and the other was the starry-eyed dreamer. Always wanted to write them into a book, but they didn’t fit my genre.

  250. carlie says

    I may follow it up with a short “cop drama” story that I’ve had in back of my mind for years.

    Will there be singing? Cop dramas are always better with singing. :)

  251. Louis says

    Chas,

    Enemies?

    HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA.

    Oh you are such a fucking moron. At least I understand you’ve written lucidly on the subject of turtles.

    Louis

  252. sometimes quirky says

    [Thread Interrupt]

    Hello *waves*

    I jumped into the “a Little Light Entertainment” thread without properly introducing myself first – I just couldn’t restrain myself :)

    I’ve been a lurker ’round these parts since the ol’ Crackergate posts but was always beaten to the post by someone who could put my point across much more eloquently.

    I was forced into Catholicism as a school child. When we moved here my parents were told that they had a choice: they could have me baptised or I could go to the school with the drug dealers in the playground (‘though I’m sure the priest and his nuns didn’t phrase it quite like that).

    By the time I was twelve, they’d politely requested that I not take part in their sunday school classes or have the “after service” teas with them. I asked too many annoying questions, I guess.

    Anyways, nice to finally say “Hello” to everyone :)

    [Interrupt ends]

  253. says

    At least I understand you’ve written lucidly on the subject of turtles.

    “Written on LSD”…
    “Written Louisidly”…

    I’m sure there’s a pun in there somewhere, I just can’t be arsed to find it.

  254. says

    Katherine
    hehe, I once met such a “character cop” in Spain. I was translating for somebody who had his purse stolen and the cop who brought us to the police department was definitely a character. Around 50, black hair and beard lined with grey, small, sparkling black eyes, the buttons stretching over his belly and when we entered the car he told us the we didn’t need to use seatbelts because it was a short ride in a police car.

    Oh dear, JT is disappointed with us. I’m sorry about being such a bad subject to be allied

  255. LDTR says

    carlie @346: I so hoped that was going to be Blackpool and not Cop Rock. Thank you for making my hope come true. :-)

    …mmm, David Tennant… now I know my day is starting off right.

  256. ChasCPeterson says

    do I really have to explain to freakin Louis the difference betwen being facetious and being a “moron”?

    “Written on LSD”

    How the hell do you know about that??

  257. carlie says

    LDTR – of course! I have some taste. :)

    Hello, sometimes quirky! I have a handful of melted, shattered chocolate leaves to offer as greeting.

  258. John Morales says

    sometimes quirky, hey.

    I admit I checked your comment with some suspicion, since there’s a Dungeon denizen with a related nym who has been known to morph.

    (’twas a good one)

  259. John Morales says

    ChasCPeterson, at your own request, I remind you of your self-decided undertaking.

  260. Beatrice, anormalement indécente says

    Oh dear, JT is disappointed with us. I’m sorry about being such a bad subject to be allied

    So much for wanting women’s comments on the topic. I guess we count only as test subjects upon which poor menz should practice their seduction skills. What was the point of the post again, was it just that he wanted to renew his feminist ally card for this year? Good thing that he does the renewal himself, it’s not like our opinions count for anything.

  261. sometimes quirky says

    Awww, thanks :)

    I have no idea what trail mix is, so I’ll aim for sharing some of the frosted mini wheats and the shattered chocolate leaves, please :)

    Out of curiosity, carlie, how did you manage to both shatter and melt chocolate at the same time?

  262. Louis says

    Chas,

    Wait….Did I make a false positive?

    Ah well in that case I apologise! I accept full moronhood upon myself.

    How happy is the moron,
    He doesn’t give a damn,
    I wish I were a moron,
    Dear me, perhaps I am!

    Louis

  263. sometimes quirky says

    @John Morales,

    Hey :)

    Had no idea about the Dungeon denizen. I just used the first half of my blog name in the hopes that it’d be something I could remember easily. Would it be best if I changed it?

    @Ms Daisy,
    Hello!

  264. says

    So I’m sitting in a hotel room in China, and channel NewsAsia just tells me about a chap called Philip Philipps, who edged out a mexican-Filipino lady called Jessica Sanchez or somesuch in some US talent show. Go figure. Travel guide loves it tho.

  265. says

    Good news, everyone!
    I’m getting a new (used) car today! A Toyota Rav4! Yay!

    I loathe am not particularly fond of SUV’s, but other than that, congrats! What generation?

  266. Beatrice, anormalement indécente says

    For the rest who took, “give us your insight” as defending skeezy men, you’re part of the reason men like me scarcely ever touch this issue even though we realize there are problems that need to be fixed. If you want the help of men who want to help make this an accommodating environment for women, you may want to re-think some things.

    I have sure learned my lesson. If I want Nice Guys to help me, I should just smile and nod politely.

    I almost feel sorry for him. He must be terribly dizzy there on that high horse of his.

  267. life is like a pitbull with lipstick ॐ says

    I left the following comment over at JT’s:

    “I’m about to close comments on this thread due to people like you derailing it to the point of being useless.”

    Where “useless” is defined as “useless to JT Eberhard, though evidently not useless to people who disagree with JT Eberhard.”

    There’s a pretty reliable, natural measure of when the latter occurs: people just stop posting in the thread.

    (I hope that wasn’t too subtle. This is my way of explaining why you were wrong to close that thread, and why you should reopen it.)

    I am disappointed to find that it is gone.

  268. says

    SQB,
    Thanks!

    Trust me, I’m not terribly fond of SUVs myself (my husband and I are currently sharing a 2010 Mazda 3, which I luv), but the Rav4 is an incredibly generous gift from his parents to make life easier for us when Darkfetus arrives.

    It’s an ’04, which IIRC is smaller than the current generation of Rav4s.

  269. sometimes quirky says

    Audley Darkheart (liar and scoundrel):

    Trail mix= nuts, dried fruit, chocolate chips= delicious. :)

    Oooh, that does sound nice :)

  270. says

    The Pfft! says there are several different versions of the RAV4, with different number of doors. A Mazda 3 should be big enough, but perhaps they’re trying to say that they don’t think it safe enough?

  271. says

    If you want the help of men who want to help make this an accommodating environment for women, you may want to re-think some things.

    Translation: “If you uppity bitches don’t stop criticizing me for failing to be the ally I so grandiosely pretend to be and start giving me feminist cookies, you’re on your own with the convention predators. I don’t give a fuck.”

  272. Janine: History’s Greatest Monster says

    Warning, this links takes you to a hateful alternate reality.

    The creation science group that runs the museum, Answers in Genesis, expressed disappointment. The group said, “Curiously, despite being a clear winner in terms of votes received, the Creation Museum does not appear on the Budget Travel List.” Noting the company explanation that the Creation Museum did not fit into a “universal appeal” profile, the ministry said, “We are certainly aware many evolutionists fear exposing children to the sort of critical thinking encouraged by a visit to the Creation Museum. And while we never discourage parents from taking their children to museums such as the number two choice on Budget Travel’s list – the Field Museum of Chicago, home of ‘the biggest Tyrannosaurus rex fossil ever dug up’ – we do suggest they go armed with a bucketful of discernment.”

    *snicker*
    Critcal thinking?
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    *gasp*
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  273. LDTR says

    @374: dontcha know you’re only thinking “critically” if you’re agreeing with them?

  274. sometimes quirky says

    myeck waters:

    Hey, I think I also noticed sometimes quirky in that thread – part of the “not a moron” contingent as I recall.

    Hey :)
    Meant to acknowledge you earlier but someone had the audacity to step into my office and dump distracting paperwork on my desk!

  275. says

    SQB,
    My Rav4 is considered a five door– four, er, “regular” doors and what is referred to as a “barn door” in the rear (in other words, it hinges on the left side instead of the top like a hatchback). So not the smallest model, no. I had forgotten about the three door models, they’re not very prevalent around here!

    We’re keeping the Mazda 3 and I think everyone agrees that it’s plenty safe for a child. The inlaws are giving us the Rav4 so I don’t have to haul Mr Darkheart to and from work while also caring for an infant. Just to make life that much easier. ;)

  276. Janine: History’s Greatest Monster says

    The last post that Joe of Joe.My.God. for May 23 was a story of a poll conducted by the Knights Of Columbus stating that 74% of all Americans believe that religious faith should supersede civil rights. (Gawd does not approve of race mixing!)

    Today, he posts a story about a prominent Ultra Orthodox Jewish rabbi who claims that Jewish doctors should not treat gentile patients on the sabbath in Israel.

    I think he does this on purpose.

  277. Louis says

    Ms Daisy Cutter, #373,

    He said that? Oh for fuck’s sake.

    Meh, I’m in the process of probably burning bridges at AtBC because of all the “Wahhhhh PZ and Pharyngulites are Teh Meen” and love for the slimepit. It’s not universal, but my tolerance limit for stupidity and dishonesty on these issues, even in people I generally like, is at a low ebb.

    I’m feeling intolerant and I may be fucking vicious.

    It costs me nothing to also cross JT off the list of “not dumb as a bag of rocks on this issue”. Sometimes you’ve just got to decide who is worth talking to about what.

    Louis

  278. Happiestsadist says

    Yeah, JT is such a great ally. You can tell because of the threats and the temper tantrums that ensue when he receives anything less than total adulation for the truly noble and inspired ideas he has about how women need to do all the work in making a place safe. I love how open he is about only wanting cookies and praise for his amazing allyship. And then told all the women who weren’t impressed with his shit that they weren’t rational enough to understand his posts. What an ally.

  279. Louis says

    I also want a cookie.

    I want it now.

    GIMME A FUCKING COOKIE OR ELSE I WON’T BE NICE!

    And women, get me a sammich.

    Actually, scratch that last one. I want another cookie for rescinding my sammich request instead.

    Louis

  280. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    Morning!

    I got a letter from the manufacturers of my car. Apparently there’s a safety recall of the windshield wiper, and if I contact one of [list of authorized mechanics] it will be replaced for me free of charge.

    Of course, I’ll do that. It just makes me grumble.

  281. Dhorvath, OM says

    Wait. WHAT? He is disappointed in us? Help isn’t purchased from allies. Gah!

  282. Pteryxx says

    *waves to the Flirting Warrior Brigade, take as you will* ~;>

    That was my thought too – since that layer is the one with potential pecans, that making it a bit thicker would keep the nuts suspended a little better so they wouldn’t migrate downwards to the bottom of the cheesecake.

    Okay, so the flour (or other starch powder) is there as a sort of supportive undergarment for the nuts. Er, cheesecake. Right! Well, that factoid’s embedded in my tiny brain forever! ♥

  283. Louis says

    Quoting me at #380:

    Sometimes you’ve just got to decide who is worth talking to about what.

    And the ability and freedom to do that, ladies, gentlemen and Brownian, is the fucking hallmark of privilege.

    I get to decide because, guess what, I can afford to.

    I’m in a mood, maybe it’s this haircut. It’s usually the haircut. It looks like an obese and ugly black sheep has been planted on my neck.

    Smells the same too. Well. From the back.

    Louis

  284. Louis says

    Pteryxx, #386,

    *waves to the Flirting Warrior Brigade, take as you will* ~;>

    {Faints}

    Louis

  285. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    SQB, yes. Apparently the mechanism securing it to the car is faulty, so it can randomly fly off. If you’re moving fast, this could be bad for someone nearby. Also, if you need a windshield wiper and suddenly don’t have one, that is also bad (visibility).

  286. opposablethumbs says

    since that layer is the one with potential pecans, that making it a bit thicker would keep the nuts suspended a little better so they wouldn’t migrate downwards to the bottom

    I read that as lawyer, for some reason … and it almost made sense for a moment too ::must re-boot brain. Needs moar coffee …::

  287. Janine: History’s Greatest Monster says

    Last week, Alveda King, the niece of MLK (The person who claimed that because she shares genetic material with MLK, she knows better then Coretta Scott King what MLK thought of LGBT issues.) said this:

    The 21st century homosexual lobby likes to point to the professional relationship between my uncle Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and Bayard Rustin, his openly homosexual staffer who left the movement at the height of the campaign. Rustin attempted to convince Uncle M. L. that homosexual rights were equal with civil rights. Uncle M. L. did not agree, and would not attach the homosexual agenda to the 20th century civil rights struggles. So Mr. Rustin resigned.

    Alvin McEwen of Pam’s House Blend refuted her with this.

    According to several sources, most specifically the excellent book Lost Prophet: The Life and Times of Bayard Rustin by John D’Emilio, Rustin resigned because prominent black leaders, specifically the late Congressman Adam Clayton Powell, had gotten jealous of King’s influence and were going to accuse him and the openly gay Rustin of being lovers.

    It was some of these same leaders who did not want Rustin to have anything to do with the 1963 March on Washington, but labor leader A. Philip Randolph insisted that Rustin be involved. And as you SHOULD know, this was a good move because Rustin was the architect of that successful march.

    Furthermore Rustin began speaking about gay issues in the 1980s at the behest of his partner, Walter Naegle. This was over two decades after MLK’s death.

    Color me shocked! Rivals were going to smear MLK because of his association with a gay man a half century ago. And a bigot related to MLK is willing to twist the story so that MLK cast the gay man out of the temple.

    This is like arguing that the reason why their were so few black people in colleges and universities before the 1960s because they just were not intelligent enough to get in rather than the truth, that most of the people in power in the US did not want blacks to have the same access to education that middle class and upper class white people had.

    Would it be a Godwin if I called Alveda King a Quisling?

  288. says

    Rachel Maddow deftly analyzes Mitt Romney’s latest failure to answer the simplest questions.

    Time’s Mark Halperin, no radical lefty, tried to lob some softballs Romney’s way, giving Romney lots of opportunities to provide examples of his business expertise. In the video of the interview you can see the sweat on Romney’s upper lip, see his eyes shift nervously, and hear him fail to deal in anything other than generalities and abstraction. The one time Romney actually gives a specific example of a company he dealt with, he fails to include the rather relevant fact that Steel Dynamics received $37 million in public subsidies, and that Bain sold its stake in Steel Dynamics 13 years ago. Romney can’t take credit for the company’s success.

    From the Maddow Blog:

    The former governor also said he can improve the economy through his very existence — “entrepreneurs” will start investing simply by virtue of Romney being in office — and though he wants to increase Pentagon spending and approve tax breaks, we can’t afford PBS.

    But Halperin, to his credit, also asked some worthwhile questions about Romney’s controversial private-sector background. “I know you think that working in the private sector in and of itself gives you insight into how the economy works,” the reporter said, “but what specific skills or policies did you learn at Bain that would help you create an environment where jobs would be created?” The presumptive GOP nominee replied:

    “Well that’s a bit of a question like saying, ‘What have you learned in life that would help you lead?’ My whole life has been learning to lead, from my parents, to my education, to the experience I had in the private sector, to helping run the Olympics, and then of course helping guide a state. Those experiences in totality have given me an understanding of how America works and how the economy works.

    “Twenty five years in business, including business with other nations, competing with companies across the world, has given me an understanding of what it is that makes America a good place to grow and add jobs, and why jobs leave America — why businesses decide to locate here, and why they decide to locate somewhere else. What outsourcing causes — what it’s caused by, rather. I understand, for instance, how to read a balance sheet.

    Reading the transcript, it was at this point when it occurred to me that Mitt Romney is basing his campaign on his private-sector work, but he hasn’t the foggiest idea how that business experience relates to the responsibilities of a president.

    Jon Chait argued that Romney’s response to Halperin’s question “is pure incoherence…. Basically Romney is just repeating his premise over and over again. He doesn’t say why his experience as a rich business guy better enables him to craft pro-growth policies.”

    It’s because there is no good answer to the question. The premise of Romney’s campaign is burdened by a flaw: it doesn’t make sense.

    Maddow’s coverage includes President Obama’s reply.

    Here’s a link to the painful video: http://thepage.time.com/2012/05/23/romney-talks-2/?iid=sl-category-arenapage

  289. says

    I loatheI loathe am not particularly fond of SUV’s am not particularly fond of SUV’s…

    They kinda annoy me, too. Or the bigger ones do, especially. Those and minivans…

    But mostly just ‘cos they’re so incredibly annoying to see around when I’m trying to make a left turn and there’s one in the opposite left turn lane. And so I’ve just no idea with all that minivan or whatever bulk in the way whether there’s someone coming up in the through lane adjacent… And so I wait… And wait… And wait… Until they make their turn and so I can actually see… And hope the next thing behind them in the same line isn’t just a bigger behemoth.

    I think sometimes at such moments: periscope. What I need here is a periscope, to see above the sea of SUV… Can we get on that, car design people?

    Other times, I tend to fume and think pettily: oh, c’mon… Do you really need all that vehicle? And how can that many of you really need all that vehicle? Do you really have a hockey team you’re hauling around and thus the minivan, or is it just that your kids are scrappy and difficult and spoiled and so you want more space between them? And you over there in the freakin’ Escalade with its own zip code and a deck for landing carrier planes on the roof: have you ever even taken that thing off the road or even into a cottage road, or do you just like the way it looks in the big box mall parking lot?

    Anyway, as Rav4s present far less trouble that way, I heartily approve your choice. I say: if you must SUV, SUV small.

  290. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    SQB, your initial reaction was like mine. Until I read the rest of the letter, which said what I did @389.

  291. says

    AJ:
    :)

    I know how you feel about huge cars. My SiL drives a minivan and she has one child. It’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen.

    If I was buying a new car, I would drive something much smaller than the Rav4– before I became preggers, I was looking at buying a Fiat 500, but now I’m trying to save as much money as possible. I’m stunned that the inlaws would just give me a car. I know they want to help us in every way possible, but it’s just so incredibly generous that I still can’t really wrap my head around it.

  292. says

    AJ Milne, exactly.

    Sure, if you live down 15 miles of dirt road, or you need to pull your horse trailer across muddy fields, of you own a house on the beach, or even if you just like to go off-roading on a lazy sunday afternoon, sure, fine, get an SUV.

    But if the biggest hill you’ll ever climb with it is a speed bump, come on! You’re just making the road less safe for everyone around you!

    Yes, you’re seated high so you’ve got a good view, but a child could pass directly in front of you without you even noticing. Hell, a small adult could pass behind you without you noticing! And those bull bars are a slap in the face of engineers trying hard to protect innocent bystanders with pedestrian impact protection systems.

    <disclaimer txt=”I’m in the Netherlands, where hardly anybody needs an SUV, so maybe I’m biased.” />

  293. says

    I was looking at buying a Fiat 500

    Yes, yes oh hell yes!

    Especially the Abarth 500 SS! If I only had the money…

  294. says

    Audley
    Is it a diesel? If yes I hope you have better luck with it than we had with the Piece of Shit aka Toyota Avensis. OTOH, as long as you don’t pull a horse or caravan you could be fine, but the diesel engine has a serious construction flaw that fucks up the exhaust system which in turn reduces the horsepower to about 10%

    We currently have a Peugeot 5008 and a Citroen Berlingo, which is my beloved Little Red Ridinghood. Perfect for 2 kids and a stroller.

  295. says

    Continuing their tradition of being behind-the-curve, reactionary homophobes, mormons are just now getting around to stating their intention to ignore Robert L. Spitzer’s retraction of his earlier, flawed research.

    The author of a controversial 2001 study claiming that gays can do so has now disavowed his conclusions, but a Utah organization for Mormons plans to continue using so-called reparative therapy in its efforts to help or “cure” those with same-sex attraction.

    In fact, Evergreen International tells The Salt Lake Tribune it has no plans to remove the research from its website.

    Even so, Robert L. Spitzer is backing away from his study. “I believe I owe the gay community an apology,” Spitzer wrote in a letter to a psychiatric journal, according to a New York Times story last week.

    Spitzer was referring to his study in which he interviewed 200 gay men and women before and after therapy to change their orientation. The majority said they had become “predominantly or exclusively heterosexual.”

    Gay leaders questioned Spitzer’s results when they were reported a decade ago.

    “The study had serious problems,” The Times reported. “It was based on what people remembered feeling years before — an often fuzzy record. It included some former gay advocates, who were politically active. And it did not test any particular therapy; only half of the participants engaged with a therapist at all, while the others worked with pastoral counselors or in independent Bible study.”

    The most serious flaw, critics argued, was that the change was all self-reported.

    Spitzer now agrees….

    David Pruden, executive director of Salt Lake City-based Evergreen International, is sticking with Spitzer’s initial conclusions — even though Spitzer isn’t….

    Elan Karten and Jay C. Wade at Fordham University “did their own follow-up study to test Spitzer’s results,” Pruden said. “[His] results were generally confirmed.”…

    Okay. Looks like we now have to review Karten and Wade’s study to prove they are also full of shit — or that Pruden read the study selectively and came to the wrong conclusion.

    From the reader’s comments:

    “LDS Resource For Same Sex Attraction”
    and
    “Evergreen International is the most complete resource for Latter-day Saints on same-sex attraction.”
    http://evergreeninternational….

    Sorry pal, but everything at this website and their new one (http://www.thessavoice.com/) is LDS-Church centric.

    I’ll just add that Evergreen has no visible means of support, and that mormon bigwigs serve on the Board, and that mormon Bishops refer “same sex attracted” members for “treatment.”

    Source: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54173182-78/gay-spitzer-therapy-church.html.csp?page=1

  296. Nutmeg says

    Hi, sometimes quirky! I have no delicious baked goods to offer you – would you like a tadpole instead? It’s kind of like eating a baby – just a cold, amphibian baby.

    (I hope you’ve been lurking long enough that baby-eating jokes are okay. If not, I’m going to have to find another use for that tadpole.)

  297. sometimes quirky says

    Nutmeg:

    Hi, sometimes quirky! I have no delicious baked goods to offer you – would you like a tadpole instead? It’s kind of like eating a baby – just a cold, amphibian baby.

    (I hope you’ve been lurking long enough that baby-eating jokes are okay. If not, I’m going to have to find another use for that tadpole.)

    Oh yeah, totally up-to-date on the baby-eating side of things :)
    Do I have to eat the tadpole, or can I keep it and attempt to train it into face-hugging people I don’t like once it’s frog-sized?

  298. Nutmeg says

    sometimes quirky:

    can I keep it and attempt to train it into face-hugging people I don’t like once it’s frog-sized?

    Oh, please do. I love the idea of an attack frog! I think I need one myself.

  299. says

    Audley

    I’ve owned Toyotas in the past and I’ve had good luck with them. :)

    Sadly, that was what Mr. said before buying the Piece of Shit. But since it really is exclusively a diesel-problem, I wish you good luck with yours. I’ve definetly had more than a life-time’s worth of car woes with Toyota in 4 years.

    Hello, sometimes quirky

  300. sometimes quirky says

    Giliell, not to be confused with The Borg:

    Hello, sometimes quirky

    Hi, Giliell :)

  301. Crip Dyke, MQ, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaiden says

    so…
    Any of you know that I’ve been doing various things including teaching and researching political/legal philosophy, ethics, and feminism. I also have a long history as an activist.

    A few of you know that I’ve decided to become a lawyer, call it a midlife crisis if that works for you tho the decision wasn’t crisis-y.

    Finally, I’m a US citizen that fell in love w/ a Canadian last year. The logical thing to do, of course, was to apply to the Canadian law school that rejects a higher percentage of applicants than any other… Just to make sure I had the smallest chance of making my ambitious dreams of becoming a prominent theorist of con law while living within driving distance of my sweetie.

    I just got notified that there has been some obvious computer weirdness resulting in an offer of admission.

    I’m accepting before they realize their mistake.

  302. Richard Austin says

    Crip Dyke:
    *throws confetti made of copies of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms*

    Huzzah!

    Quick, let’s get the partying done before you realize you just got in to law school and your life is basically over for a few years!

    (Really, though, congrats :) )

  303. says

    If Romney’s inability to adequately explain how his experience at Bain qualifies him to be President [see post 394] is not enough to make you turn you off, consider his admiration for Dick Cheney.

    This segment begins with some history about Nixon, but quickly moves on to Dick Cheney’s career. The segment ends with quotes from Romney about how much he admires Cheney, and about Romney’s plans to attend a fundraiser at Cheney’s house.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#47544497

  304. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    Went to the coffee stand in the lobby. They said that I had earned a free drink. I asked to be surprised.

    Got a vanilla-and-raspberry-and-white-chocolate smoothie.

    Delicious

  305. says

    Crip Dyke,
    YAY! Oh, the acceptance is awesome news!

    Giliell,
    Yeah, you never so know when a car company’s quality is going to tank, do you? My parents are dealing with that kind of shit right now: my mom has an ’04 Mini Cooper that has never needed a repair. My dad, on the other hand, bought a 2012 Mini Cooper S just a few months ago and it has already had two different oil leaks and an electrical problem that wouldn’t allow him to start it.

    Anyway, the Rav4 was my MiL’s and it’s been no problem for her, so I think it will be fine for me. :)

  306. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    I just got notified that there has been some obvious computer weirdness resulting in an offer of admission.

    *cheers, confetti, champagne corks popping, whistles*

  307. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    *confetti* *hugs* *champagne* *poutine* and *grog* for Crip Dyke!

  308. Crip Dyke, MQ, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaiden says

    @415-
    Didn’t Harper use up all the copies of the Charter for the confetti at his inauguration (or whatever they call it up in Canadia these days)?

  309. says

    @Crip Dyke, that’s fantastic! I’m adding to the flow of celebratory beverages headed your way via USB port.

  310. kerfluffle says

    This is horrible and I don’t know where else to discuss it.

    http://news.ninemsn.com.au/health/8469962/how-to-reduce-hiv-make-women-uglier

    “The government should come up with a law that compels women to have their heads clean-shaven like what the Apostolic sects do,” said Femai, speaking to a parliamentary HIV awareness workshop in Kadoma on Friday, according to Nehanda Radio.

    Femai also proposed Zimbabwean women be circumsized.

    Which is bad enough but right there in the article it says that HIV rates have dropped from 30 to 14 percent in the last 10 years. Obviously they have already found better options than mutilation and slut shaming.

  311. says

    Kefluffle,
    So, ugly &/or bald women don’t have sex? *eyeroll*

    Also, what a way to blame women for the AIDS epidemic. Men can’t be held accountable for their actions! Especially not when there’s women walking around with bewbs and stuff!

  312. Janine: History’s Greatest Monster says

    So, is HIV a gay illness or are women to blame? Either way, the blame falls upon a group with huge moral failings, the fags or the bitches.

  313. opposablethumbs says

    Cheers and confetti and dancing for Crip Dyke! Congratulations, that is truly awesome!
    .
    .
    Ms Daisy Cutter, I sent your chemistry jokes to DaughterSpawn to try and help alleviate the stress of end-of-first-year-away-at-uni-doing-undergrad-biochemistry exams which are about to start. If anyone else has any good sources of bio or chem jokes, they would be most gratefully received.

  314. LDTR says

    Go Crip Dyke!

    Re @425: So HIV is women’s fault for being too pretty? What kind of bizarro world is… oh. Never mind.

  315. Louis says

    Audley, #426,

    Have you seen what BEWBS can DO? Those things have to be restrained! Bras weren’t invented for support and comfort (especially not comfort, see 1950s bras for example. Cones. CONES!), they were invented for public safety.

    Unrestrained BEWEBS can cause Unrest™.

    Louis

  316. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    I saw a news story awhile back about some religious-thug group that has issued a statement to the effect that women should not wear bras, because it makes their breasts more noticeable.

    *facepalm*

  317. cicely. Just cicely. says

    Hi, sometimes quirky; welcome in. I think you’ll find that restraint is in short supply, hereabouts.

    (Except by mutual consent.)
    ;)

    Also, if you need a windshield wiper and suddenly don’t have one, that is also bad (visibility).

    That’s certainly true; and having both fly off while driving the interstate during a Vertical Torrential Downpour is even more fun!

    For semi-suicidal definitions of “fun”.

    Crip Dyke, congrats! *booze*

  318. Beatrice, anormalement indécente says

    I saw a news story awhile back about some religious-thug group that has issued a statement to the effect that women should not wear bras, because it makes their breasts more noticeable.

    Huh, I thought nipples were the Source of All Evil and any glimpse of their shape through a shirt will turn men into wild beasts.

  319. Pteryxx says

    …We have a *booze* emote? WHY WASN’T I NOTIFIED

    Crip Dyke, acres and acres of glitter-toga’d conga rats, with fireworks doubled in the reflecting pool!

  320. Louis says

    Katherine Lorraine, #439,

    ZOMG SUPER DANGEROUS BEWBZ!

    That so needs to be made into a comic book superpower.

    And no. I flatly refuse to google that!

    Louis

  321. says

    Congratulations, Crip Dyke!
    ====
    Audley, a random thought: if you haven’t bought a crib yet, consider getting a raised one. (Okay, that’s a double one, but the idea is that you don’t have to reach down to put Darkbaby in there). Believe me, your back will thank you.

  322. carlie says

    Out of curiosity, carlie, how did you manage to both shatter and melt chocolate at the same time?

    It was quite interesting. I think it was because the layer was too thin; it broke as I peeled the leaf off, and then immediately melted from the heat on my fingertips. And then the rest that was still stuck to the leaf melted. And then that happened three more times.

    AtBC? I’m not sure which place that is.

    Yay Crip Dyke!

    I’m sad that JT has dug in like this. That whole thing had a weird vibe to it.

  323. says

    Also, I predict that when Darkbaby arrives, it will be…

    (drumroll)

    oddly-shaped!

    (rimshot)

    (Oddly! Audeley! Get it? I’ll get my coat.)

  324. Amphiox says

    So, is HIV a gay illness or are women to blame?

    If it REALLY cared about stopping HIV using a sexual repression agenda, then it self-evidently has only ONE viable option.

    It must forcibly convert all women to lesbianism, seeing as lesbians have the lowest of all infection rates.

    A generation or two of this and presto, HIV will be gone!

  325. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    SQB, you’ve never seen a neonate, have you? They are very oddly shaped.

    The Darkbaby, I hypothesize, will eventually, given enough time, be Audley-and-Mr.-Darkheart shaped. As babies tend to do.

    BTW: just checked my email. New email with the subject line, “Beer hour celebration – Friday, 4 pm” :D :D :D

  326. carlie says

    The Darkbaby, I hypothesize, will eventually, given enough time, be Audley-and-Mr.-Darkheart shaped.

    But its very first shape will, in fact, be Audley-shaped. The inside of Audley, that is. :)

  327. says

    Esteleth, au contraire! I’ve seen several, the most important of those being my own two sons. The second one (Audley, don’t read this!) was delivered with what the Pfft! informs me is called a ventouse in English. Have you seen Coneheads? He could’ve been an extra!

  328. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    Carlie, I really don’t think that the Darkfetus is shaped like the Audleyuterus. *headscratch*

    Fetuses tend to be fetus-shaped.

  329. Rey Fox says

    The Rav4 and the Honda CRV are the compact SUVs that I sort of wanted when I was looking for a car to replace my Civic a couple years back and harbored (still harbor) the belief that I’ll want to drive rutted mountain roads some day. I ended up with a Dodge Caliber, which I suppose will probably fall apart in five years, but has been very reliable for me so far.

    If I had gotten one of those compact SUVs, I would have probably ended up grumbling about their gas mileage, since my Caliber doesn’t get as good mileage as my Civic did. Of course, no cars in America get as good of gas mileage as they should and damn well could.

  330. says

    SQB, you’ve never seen a neonate, have you? They are very oddly shaped.

    All neonates are ugly. Except for mine, they were beautiful.

    Audley
    You never know with cars and sometimes you just have the misfortune to have what Germans call a “Montagsauto”, Monday’s car, one that got assembled by people who need the workdays to relax from the weekend.

    Yay for Crip Dyke!

    I saw a news story awhile back about some religious-thug group that has issued a statement to the effect that women should not wear bras, because it makes their breasts more noticeable.

    People wouldn’t notice my bra-less boobs. They’d be knocked senseless if I ever chose to even trot past them. Hey, they’re cup F, there’s no way not to notice them.

  331. sometimes quirky says

    cicely. Just cicely:

    Hi, sometimes quirky; welcome in. I think you’ll find that restraint is in short supply, hereabouts.

    (Except by mutual consent.)
    ;)

    Hiya, cicely. Thanks for the welcome :)

  332. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    sometimes quirky, welcome to the saloon!

    When Nigel wanders back in, you’ll get some grog.

    :D

  333. carlie says

    Fetuses tend to be fetus-shaped.

    Well, yes, but the heads do mold a bit. Depending. :D

    So did I see that there’s a flirting brigade now? Is it necessary to have a gauzy scarf to flutter to join?

  334. carlie says

    I saw a news story awhile back about some religious-thug group that has issued a statement to the effect that women should not wear bras, because it makes their breasts more noticeable.

    Something tells me those people have never seen women without bras.

  335. sometimes quirky says

    Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain:

    sometimes quirky, welcome to the saloon!

    When Nigel wanders back in, you’ll get some grog.

    :D

    Yey! Cool, thanks :D

    @Carlie
    You going to have another go at the chocolate leaves?

  336. Esteleth, Raging Dyke of Fuck Mountain says

    A “lemon,” in English is car that is utter shit. Any kind of vehicle, actually.

  337. says

    People wouldn’t notice my bra-less boobs. They’d be knocked senseless if I ever chose to even trot past them. Hey, they’re cup F, there’s no way not to notice them.

    @Giliell
    As a fellow busty woman, I absolutely agree. I wouldn’t even consider not wearing a bra outside sitting around the house; I don’t even want to answer the front door without one. Even minimizing bras only do so much, especially once you get into higher cupsizes.

    I finally replaced my bras recently (after ~ 2 years because they’re so damned expensive). When the package arrived on the doorstep it was like magic boob christmas.

  338. Forelle says

    [Off-topic.] Skimming through recent posts I see that, however tangentially mentioned, some people are still misrepresenting The Great Elevator Debate. All my admiration goes to those who have engaged a number of idiots. I’d like to add a frivolous comment that contains a bit of music.

    After reading yet another patient explanation about coffee proposals being susceptible to be interpreted as sex proposals, I wonder — has anybody mentioned the opera L’italiana in Algeri?

    The bey Mustafa, bored with his wife and his harem, is besotted with Isabella, an Italian woman who has arrived in Algiers because of a wreckage at the coast. At the beginning of the second act, he wants her to receive him… drinking coffee. Isabella, whose aim is to fool the bey and escape with her lover, accepts to have coffee with the bey, but neither she, nor the bey, nor his poor wife Elvira are confused at all about what the invitation is really about. You can watch and hear here, for example, the wonderful Ann Hallenberg just before coffee, assuming that the situation is oh so very neutral, not at all sexually charged. Stephanie Blythe does it here in a version with English subtitles.

    The overtones of inviting a woman to coffee in certain contexts seem to be at least two centuries old.

  339. dianne says

    [Off-topic.]

    There is no off topic on the endless thread.

    Other than that, entirely correct comment.

  340. birgerjohansson says

    Odd-looking babies? Virally transferred Stewie Griffin DNA. Build a good relation with the kid so you can tag along when neonatal unit achieves world domination.
    — — — — — — —
    “Sweden moves to outlaw forced marriages” http://www.thelocal.se/41012/20120524/
    Some immigrant families take their daughters to their country of origin to marry them off when they are younger than 18, the law is intended to stop the practice.

  341. carlie says

    slignot – I actually learned about a new bra company through that post of yours the other day, and they have loads of options in my size (which is small bust, big band, NOBODY has this combination because fat women are always supposed to have big boobs I guess), so thanks!

    You going to have another go at the chocolate leaves?

    The next time I have something fancy to make, yes. I think I know what I did wrong, and what to correct.

  342. Ogvorbis says

    Crip Dyke:

    Congratulations!

    SQB, you’ve never seen a neonate, have you? They are very oddly shaped.

    Think ‘The Coneheads’ for a start. And it gets stranger.

    Have you seen Coneheads? He could’ve been an extra!

    Okay, SQB has seen a neonate.

    All neonates are ugly. Except for mine, they were beautiful.

    Boy looked like Winston Churchill. Girl looked really cute.

    Both were, and are, beautiful.

    Something tells me those people have never seen women without bras.

    No bras. They want binding.

  343. says

    @carlie, I am glad you were able to find a great selection for you online. It’s so frustrating to be outside expected proportions because stores really do refuse to admit you exist. Plus if a store does carry something in your size are very seldom fun and flattering. Once I got to where stores in my size mostly carried nursing bras, I stuck to buying all of my bras online.

    I remember when I was special ordering the bustier/longline bra thing for my wedding dress and during measurement, the assistant measured for my band and said, “Wow, 36? Did I get that right?”

  344. chigau (違う) says

    Audley’s uterus womb is exactly the right shape for a fetus!
    It’s a miracle!

  345. Louis says

    Katherine Lorrraine, #441,

    WHYYYY! WHYYYYY DID THERE HAVE TO BE A TV TROPE ABOUT IT!!!! WHYYYYY!?

    OH THE HUGE MANATEE!!!! I’LL NEVER ESCAPE!!!!!

    Louis

  346. carlie says

    slignot – the most awkward situation I had surrounding bras was an experience a year or so ago at Macy’s. I knew what I needed, and I was looking for the single brand that I knew had it, and the elderly bra dept. lady came over to ask me if I needed any help. Gaaaa. I tried to say that no, it was ok, I knew what I was looking for but knew there wasn’t much of it, so it would just take me a few minutes. Bless her heart, she kept it up until I finally muttered the size and she went off to look for me. She came back awhile later in surprise that no, they didn’t have that size anywhere, but was quite apologetic about it. It was weird, because at the same time the fact that my size didn’t exist was confirmed, but she also displayed no smidgen of body-shaming about it and was clear that she thought it was her store at fault for not having it, not me for having my body. So it was rotten, but a nice surprising bit of feeling like a human at the same time.

  347. Janine: History’s Greatest Monster says

    Audley’s uterus womb is exactly the right shape for a fetus!
    It’s a miracle!

    It is almost as if she was designed for that.

    *ducks*

    Please forgive me.

  348. Ogvorbis says

    My uterus could very well be fetus shaped.

    Ah. Intelligent design.

    And the part where the foetus has to descend through a relatively small opening in the pelvis? Proof that gods is a man. With a really sick sense of humour.

    WHYYYY! WHYYYYY DID THERE HAVE TO BE A TV TROPE ABOUT IT!!!!

    So if Rule 34 states that, whatever you can imagine, there is a porn version of it, and everything on earth is a TV Trope, does that mean that there is a TV Trope for Rule 34? Or a does that mean there is a Rule 34 for TV Tropes? Either way I have this urge to crawl into a bottle of Johnny Walker Black Label.

  349. Louis says

    Ogvorbis,

    I’m joining you. There are days that I must erect a Booze Barrier between me and the universe. This is, and I want this absolutely clear, for the protection of the universe and all who live in it.

    I know how to make explosives and no one wants a rage fuelled killing spree now do they?

    Thus, more booze, less stupid and I’ll be fine.

    I seem to have gone from mild, mannered, moderate Clark Kent Louis, to Superman pissed off Louis in less time than it takes to enter a phonebox and realise my pants are on the outside of my skin tight trousers.

    Louis

  350. says

    It was weird, because at the same time the fact that my size didn’t exist was confirmed, but she also displayed no smidgen of body-shaming about it and was clear that she thought it was her store at fault for not having it, not me for having my body. So it was rotten, but a nice surprising bit of feeling like a human at the same time.

    That is a mixed bag of nice but uncomfortable/frustrating. I don’t generally like retail folks to ask what I need; I’d rather just have the option of snagging one if I can’t find what I’m after quickly. And I hate having someone hover while I’m looking at lingerie.

    I can’t even imagine how difficult it would be to need to buy bras to fit breastforms or a binder.

  351. Louis says

    Ogvorbis,

    Remember? I’m in the UK, we still have them. Sort of. Mainly for decorative purposes.

    I’m old enough to remember Superman changing in one though!

    Louis

  352. carlie says

    I just got over and read JT’s closing of the thread.

    For the rest who took, “give us your insight” as defending skeezy men

    I am sad that he took “please figure it out for yourselves from the abundant resources available instead of telling us we have to be your personal tutors at all times” to be saying that he was “defending skeezy men”. And here I thought I was learning to use my words and communicate better. :(

  353. Louis says

    Ms Daisy Cutter, #481,

    Bewbs fly off in torrential rain?

    WHY ARE WE NOT TOLD ABOUT THIS! IT’S A FEMINIST CONSPIRACEH! MAN-HATERS! YOU’RE JUST AS BAD AS THE PEOPLE WHO THINK RAPE IS A COMPLIMENT!

    Louis

  354. amblebury says

    Sometimes Quirky – hello! What are you when you’re not quirky?

    Sometimes Quirky, Occasionally Chagrined, Mostly Tap-dancing?

    Ignore me, here are some dark chocolate buttons for your trail mix. I have ‘nym envy. I couldn’t recall where I had dragged my own ‘nym from, and then one fine day after two hours solid hiking slog, came across the monument to the fine mountaineering hero from which I hand pinched it. And realised my ‘nym was spelled incorrectly.

    Congratulations Crip Dyke!

  355. sometimes quirky says

    amblebury:

    Sometimes Quirky – hello! What are you when you’re not quirky?

    Sometimes Quirky, Occasionally Chagrined, Mostly Tap-dancing?

    Hiya :)

    I usually put it down as “Sometimes Quirky, Occasionally Grumpy, Mostly Cranky”, tbh. Especially when I don’t get the required amount of caffeine into my system :D

  356. amblebury says

    Ah! In that case, here are some chocolate covered roasted coffee beans for the trail mix.

    :)

  357. amblebury says

    A hyphen would have been apropos there.

    Still, keep ’em guessing, eh?

  358. betelgeux says

    Hi everyone,

    Has anyone else seen this youtube video? One of my professors showed it to me and several of my friends, and we all agreed that it has got to be the most accurate representation of the last few days of the semester on the internet. The monotone makes it even better.

    I got the new issue of NatGeo in the mail today, and I noticed that there was a short article discussing acupuncture in rats. According to the article, stress levels in the rats were down if they were pricked in their “natural pressure points”. I’ve always been very scornful of acupuncture, so I was really surprised to see an article in favor of it published in an educational magazine. Did anyone else read this? Is NatGeo peddling woo?

    Also, I was checking out the new Sb site and I noticed that all of the old comments have been deleted! The Horror! All of the legendary battles with countless trolls and innumerable snarky comments have been lost. We’ll never be able to reread and laugh at the arguments with trolls like Davison, Mabus, and Kwok again. Sigh.

    According to wikipedia, Pharyngula’s first post was on June 19th, 2002. Does anyone know if there are any plans for a big 10-year birthday bash next month?

    Lastly, what’s with this weird Phawrongula site? Is it some sort of joke or are there really some people who are so obsessed that they created an anti-pharyngula website?

  359. LDTR says

    There was actually a movie where a giant boob was rampaging through the countryside, squirting people with milk. And the solution was restraining it with a giant bra. (IIRC — it’s been a looong time.)

    I’m not joking. It was a Woody Allen movie, 1970 or thereabouts, and it was called Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex But Were Afraid to Ask.

    For some reason I’m reminded of that scene.

  360. betelgeux says

    One more question from a neophyte–

    Does anyone know how to blockquote creationists in comic sans with the angry gumby icon? I’ve seen several commenters use it and I’ve always wondered how to do it myself. I’ve tried viewing the source code and using the HTML tags I saw around comic sans blockquotes, but they don’t seem to work in the comments. I know how to use regular comic sans but I have always wondered how to add the angry gumby icon. Thanks.

    And I almost forgot–tomorrow is Towel Day! Don’t forget to bring your towel wherever you go. They’re the most massively useful things in the entire universe.

  361. sometimes quirky says

    amblebury

    A hyphen would have been apropos there.

    Still, keep ‘em guessing, eh?

    *cocks head*
    Me? Where should the hyphen go?

    I’m guessing the seven cups of coffee I’ve had today are making me slow on the uptake :P

  362. Aratina Cage says

    @betelgeux

    Lastly, what’s with this weird Phawrongula site? Is it some sort of joke or are there really some people who are so obsessed that they created an anti-pharyngula website?

    It is both. It is a project of the obsessive and pornographic Franc Hoggle (Victor Ivanoff might be his real name) that he started up in response to the Pharyguwiki (also on wikia, which I can’t link to because it has ironically been blacklisted across the WWW as a spam site). Much of Pharwrongula’s content is written to be sleazy, which means it makes Hoggle and the rest of the pitizens at ERV laugh.

  363. Pteryxx says

    There was actually a movie where a giant boob was rampaging through the countryside, squirting people with milk. And the solution was restraining it with a giant bra. (IIRC — it’s been a looong time.)

    …I remember that. Oh gods. That was a real thing in the world.

    *swipes Louis’s booze barrier and ducks self*

  364. Aratina Cage says

    I seem to be missing an “n” in “Pharynguwiki” of #492. And I’ll add that I hope the loss of comments on the sciborg Pharyngula is only temporary. There were many conversations in those old threads that were important parts of Pharyngula culture and history, some of which were referenced by the wiki.

  365. says

    So, people, shed a tear for the menz. New German data shows that 1 in 12 male murder victims are murdered by their female (ex-)partners! Think about them, isn’t it horrible*. If you conveniently leave out the fact that 1 in 2 female murder victims are murdered by their male partners, it shows how much more men are victims of domestic violence than women.

    *For the trolls: every murder is horrible

  366. amblebury says

    betelgeux – yes, I’ve seen that video, it’s very good. There are more in that style, I believe.

    Pharwrongula isn’t an intentional joke, but it’s a joke nonetheless.

    Sometimes Quirky, I ‘praps would have put a hyphen in the chocolate-covered. But then I’m fond of hyphens.

    Coffee? I has none, as yet. Making some now, to bolster me for all that work (shudder) I’d best be getting on with.

  367. sometimes quirky says

    amblebury – enjoy your coffee :)

    I’d best head off for the night. I’m due to get up and out to work in 6.5hrs…and “get up” only works if I go to bed first.

  368. Weed Monkey says

    Louis, wake up! That telekinesis dweeb is thinking xe can “go somewhere” with you! The audience demands full disclosure and BLOOD! :D

  369. Nutmeg says

    Grrr. My friend has scheduled her wedding shower on the same day as Pride. Because no one in Mennonite/Catholic-land would even consider that Pride is kind of a big event, and some of their friends might want to go to it. And she waited until 10 days before to send out invitations, so I have 10 days to stop being mad about the date, buy a gift, and find an outfit.

    I will be so glad when she’s done getting married. Please tell me that brides become sane, caring, communicative people again when it’s all over?

    [/ranting about social obligations]

  370. Louis says

    Weed Monkey,

    Anyone who thinks they are “going somewhere” when I have blatantly asked them to stand in the corner of my lab wearing a tinfoil (i.e. aluminium foil) hat as they try to stir my reactions by thinking hard at a magnetic stir bar in a flask and I hit them hard in the head with a rubber mallet, has far FAR bigger problems than I can help with.

    I ain’t the one asleep my friend! ;-)

    Louis