Anders Breivik said he really hates the song, “Children of the Rainbow,” by Pete Seeger. So what do the Norwegians do? Tens of thousands of them gather in a square in Oslo and sing…”Children of the Rainbow”.
(Episode CCCXX: Make ‘em sweat.)
Pharyngula
Evolution, development, and random biological ejaculations from a godless liberal
Huh, and that’s the dude just linked at the end of the last thread talking shit about bronies!
hehehehehe
Fecking portcullis!
I don’t have the piece (which was an Irish folk song (which, rather than the normal 3 or 4 chords, had 27 different chords in just the chorus!)) and pulled the chord out of my arse as an (admittedly) poor example. I think it was an E7 with something suspended and something augmented. And required an extra finger.
Yes, guitar fingerings.
Not that far from asshole fingerings. Especially if they play lead.
TLC, see the effing link I provided on Candiru in the previous incarnation. All you’re doing is supporting complete fucking myths.
A.R, learn to fucking read.
Amazon’s free app of the day is identifying North American Birds if anyone is interested. I don’t know personally if the app is worth while, just a heads up. I can imagine some people here enjoying it.
And in the rain!
Oh, I love it! Way to take the mickey out of Breivik’s assholery.
Caine: I was referring to the myth i part. The bit about Ichthyologists was a disclaimer to emphasize that I wasn’t sure if fish actually emit ammonia from their gills. In fact, what I said has very little to do with your quote, so fuck you.
I cut my hair, wear trousers, and vote like a motherfucker, Ms. Daisy. So does that mean I win some kind of rebel award?
Oh, and I don’t think it sparkled. Because he was Robert Pattinson, not whatever-the-vampire’s-name-is.
*spots Sili covered in glitter*
Um. It’s ok. We can work with this. Where’s the nearest public restroom. *dons rubber gloves*
Cheers and applause to the organizers and participants in the serenade for Breivik!
Apparently fish do indeed secrete ammonia via the gills.
Also, see: Le Cointe, Paul. 1922. L’Amazonie Bresilienne: Le Pays; Ses Inhabitants, scs Ressources. Notes et Statistiques jusqu’en 1920. Paris, II: 365. Another account from the naturalist Paul Le Cointe. This fish was lodged in the vaginal canal, not the urethra.
Toddler just woke up and is yelling, “DINOSAURS!” over and over again. #raisingkidsright
Just dropping in to let you all know about a poll that needs thrashing in the proper direction.
http://social.ctvnews.ca/topic.php?topicid=23283&featurePollId=23284
Should the government reopen the abortion debate?
Yes: 34%
No: 64%
I can’t believe they’re even considering debating this in Parliament. I mean, I can believe it, but I can’t believe this isn’t as settled as whether to debate slavery or whether women should have the vote.
Harper has explicitly promised several times not to reopen the debates on abortion or gay marriage. He’s a scumbag, but I doubt that he wants the uproar that would occur if he went back on that promise. So I’m hopeful that it’s just some backbench MPs catering to the Christian right, and it will die down again soon.
Seems like the pathogen is moving North faster than expected. Thankfully, Canada has at least partial immunity.
Caine, I was just reporting the myth as I heard it. I read the debunking, I’m not buying into the story. The whole ‘little vampire fish SWIMS UP YOUR PEEPEE WITH RAZOR SPIKES’ sounds a little too ‘engineered to terrify’ to be real anyways, like the myths about earwigs.
The bit about Ichthyologists was a disclaimer to emphasize that I wasn’t sure if fish actually emit ammonia from their gills.
will scroll back to see what the fuck started that, but itmt, yes, fish do excrete ammonia from their gills.
not the most recent, but a good review of the subject:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/q85v605821187136/
there are more recent papers looking at tracing the exact celluar and physical mechanisms in fresh and saltwater fishes.
I love it. It is a nice, big “FUCK YOU” to Breivik.
I’ve always been partial to “Oh, Had I A Golden Thread.” But this’ll do.
@Just a Lurker
I have a question. What’s the point of the name “brony”? It sounds like one is trying to backpedal and compensate on the fact that they are watching a show with a pink unicorn aimed at young demographics. Honestly, what fandom has a name reserved for its male fans? I don’t know if it’s just me, but having that name sounds regressive. One should just be a “My Little Ponies fan” or something, and just give a big middle finger at judgmental idiots.
about candiru…
there are documented cases of a person requiring surgery after a candiru entered the ureter while swimming in a river.
exactly 2 of them, to my knowledge.
both of those involved people supposedly completely immersed in the river, and NOT standing to pee at the rivers edge. Neither of those actually eliminated the possibility that the persons involved manually placed the fish in their own ureters. Why would someone do that, you ask?
Well, it IS a known paraphilia, oddly enough. Still, I remain open to the idea that, yes, a candiru might actually have mistakenly penetrated the ureter of a human, while they were swimming. As far as it being something to worry about?
HELLS NO.
:)
Moreover, there is no possible way any fish could swim up a stream of pee. Any stories suggesting someone was penetrated by a candiru swimming up a stream of pee are nothing but complete fabrications.
Rusty Venture “Oh that’s just a myth!”
+1 for venture bros reference!
For your mild amusement: legal spat between widow and girlfriend of the late kitsch artist Thomas Kinkade. Christian family values, eh?
Damn, my BP is about 140/90 but it comes down to 132/70 every once in a while. My pulse is almost always 90- 100. It went up years ago when my marriage was falling apart and never came down again.
…and, finally:
By the way, candiru are a species of very small pirhana.
no.
They are actually a small species of catfish.
they use spines to lodge in gill cavities, not teeth.
I don’t know if there are any other former comp/theory majors out there, but I feel like I should try to wrap my brain around this. Put my education to use!
The “E7” notation commonly means a major triad with a minor 7th: E G# B D. If you want a minor triad with a minor 7th (G natural rather than G#) that’s usually written e7. The 9 would be F#, but the “suspended” wouldn’t really be needed (it refers more to the function and resolution, usually resolving to the octave E).
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything analyzed as an augmented 12th, though–if you’re talking about adding an F natural (more accurately, E# as the F-natural would be a diminished 13) to either the E9 or the e9, there are several ways to look at it, and it depends on context and function. What note does that “voice” proceed to next? Is it really part of the chord, or, say, a passing tone that’s really part of the melody and not the chord at all?
Anyway, the point is there are options for analyzing a group of notes that are heavily dependent on context, function and resolution.
This reminds me of the time in music school when we spent three days analyzing a chord from the opening of Wagner’s Tristan and Isolde. You’ve sent my brain into Dark Territory.
Doubly-threadrupt and totally drive-by, but this one’s for PZ:
2012 International Beard and Moustache Championships
I count eight beardacles, although who knows what he has in, um, reserve.
They are actually a small species of catfish.
…and by small, I mean that the one typically refered to in the myths is rather tiny.
other species of candiru get to 16 inches or so…
What the hell is a beardacle?
Is that when the chin part of the beard appears to naturally split in two?
BTW My photos don’t show it well but I’ve been trying my hand at growing a piratey looking beard. It’s all scraggly though, like Barbossa from POTC.
*doing happy dances*
My day just got significantly better. Yes, I’m still being laid off in a couple months. Yes, we ended up paying a lot more taxes in taxes than I would have liked because of office withholding mistakes. Yes, I just got a $700 repair estimate for spouse’s car. Yes, spouse’s well liked boss (who is good at running interference with crazy pathologically lying department director) is leaving and told everyone in the office that they are fucked.
BUT-crazy director has agreed to give spouse a sizeable bonus and wants to get him re-classified to a higher job title/pay scale to match what he’s actually been doing. This makes up for a lot.
Hooray!
What the hell is a beardacle?
I thought it was when you get shelled crustaceans growing on your beard?
as opposed to a “beardicle” which is when you get icicles growing in your beard.
what?
My day just got significantly better.
harrumble!
Yes, I’m still being laid off in a couple months.
boo!
Yes, we ended up paying a lot more taxes in taxes than I would have liked because of office withholding mistakes.
boo!
Yes, I just got a $700 repair estimate for spouse’s car.
boo!
Yes, spouse’s well liked boss (who is good at running interference with crazy pathologically lying department director) is leaving and told everyone in the office that they are fucked.
gasp!
BUT-crazy director has agreed to give spouse a sizeable bonus and wants to get him re-classified to a higher job title/pay scale to match what he’s actually been doing. This makes up for a lot.
Harrumble!
In the flower petal analogy, this is a win.
@Ichthyic, this is definitely a win. I’d been feeling stressed and blue. This absolutely surprising news was as welcome as it was out of the blue.
My feelings are a total 180 from earlier today, which is good because I’m making a birthday dinner for my dad this weekend and I hate trying to celebrate when I feel upset and shitty.
I’m a woman and I call myself a brony. Some say brony is for both genders. It specifically started as a movement of older men watching it, so brony fit. Now it’s gotten bigger and some women fans called themselves pegasis.
Brony come from men on 4chan watching MLP:FIM and becoming fans, it grew from there. There are bronies here but not all of them are as progressive. There is a fair bit of bullshit from bronies as far as memes and such go. (There’s more info from the link from my last comment at the end of the previous thread on how it started.)
I like it. It’s a bonding thing, over being called perverts and pedophiles for watching a good show. Like Star Trek fan, say they are Trekkies, MLP:FIM fans say they are bronies. I don’t think there is anything wrong with it. I like the fact they are specifically standing out and saying I’m a man, I’m a fan of this show, and there’s nothing wrong with it. I think the name is a middle finger to judgmental idiots. They say I’m a brony with pride or at least do so online. Like the line “I’m going to tolerate the shit out of you”.
Yay for getting unexpected good news! *high fives to slignot*
Submitted without comment.
Markita Lynda:
Same. Well, 85 if I’m sitting at my desk and I’m not particularly stressed out. But anything else, it’ll be 90-100, despite the fact that I’m in better than average shape.
I haven’t been able to give blood for years, because they don’t let you donate if your pulse is over 100. The slight stress of going to a room full of strangers and answering questions from nurses will put my pulse at precisely 102, and nothing I do will bring it down.
It’s annoying, because I’m quite healthy and I’d like to share my blood. If I could give blood in a familiar environment, like my family doctor’s office, my pulse would be under 100 and I’d be fine. But the Canadian Blood Services structure is just too stressful for a high-strung person like me.
Thanks, Cassandra!
@Just a lurker
Oh, I get it! :) It seemed like from the outset it referred to just male fans. Well, it started out that way, but I guess it is more general now.
Here’s the link again: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic for more info.
Basically:
Happy for you, slignot!
Yep. =)
It’s cool. Always happy to spread the word about MLP:FIM. hehe. It’s amazing how cool some can be. I’ve gotten bronies on my side during online games to stop saying “you got raped”. That is just a specific example for me, because bronies tend to be in the range that says and defends that kind of stuff. They aren’t all like that obviously.
Sorry for the wall of text about bronies after that. I got really excited!
Hmm. E-G-B-D would, to me, be “Em7”. E-G#-B-D# would be “Emaj7”.
*checks back*
Oh you were riffing off of something else …
*steps away from the keyboard*
feralboy12:
It’s possible. If you have a minor chord with an extra note a half step above the fifth, that’s technically a minor 13th, though in the context of a larger analysis there might be rare cases why you’d call it that. Anyway, Emin+12 is EGBC, but should be marked as Emin(13). If the chord has a min13 and a maj13 (EGCC#) without the fifth, change the root (C#EGC: C#dim maj7). If it also has the fifth (EGBCC#), you could call it Cmaj7 (b9) (CEGBC#). If there are some more weird notes, it may not be a tertian harmony, so it’d need a different kind of analysis.
In the key of E, the 9ths are F or F#, and the 12ths are Bb, B or B#.
F B D# G#
Stephen Fry is the second hit for it on google!
Congratulations, slignot.
I should’ve respelled it as CEGBDb, but you get the idea. That’s the danger of being pedantical. There’s some kind of “Law” named for that, isn’t there? Just trying to follow the law.
Here is a dress that will bring the urge to ELIMINATE!
Janine: Can you go up stairs while wearing it though?
Have you watched the Doctor Who reboot.
Yes! Daleks can go up and down stairs!
Alone and in pairs!
Howdy folks, since I suck at finding things I was wondering if y’all could help me. A while back I think I remember a post about resources for starting a freethought/atheist/secular humanist group. It was either here on Pharyngula or linked from here best I can recall. I tried searching but came up empty. Can anyone point me in the right direction if you remember it? A couple of friends and I want to try and start a group in the Roanoke area of south western Virginia, as there isn’t any existing group I’ve been able to find nearby.
If anyone has formed such a group recently, what has been your experience? If we get a viable group going should we affiliate with a national organization or stay independent and local? There are lots of questions I can’t even think to ask, but I want to find a place to start. Thanks for any constructive suggestions!
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I also love the big “fuck you” to Breivik. 40,000 people is impressive.
Jules@8, Sili covered in glitter? I haven’t caught up with the end of the last TET and I obviously need to.
The Laughing Coyote@15 “little vampire fish SWIMS UP YOUR PEEPEE WITH RAZOR SPIKES” Umm, Ouch? Maybe I should give end of the last TET a pass?
Nah, I’ll catch up eventually.
slignot@30, Yay! for unexpected bonuses and raises! (does small happy dance in your direction)
Cute overdose
I need to stay out of death penalty threads. They’re bad for me. I’m signing off for the night, catch you all tomorrow.
Along with elephants and big fat hens?
Sili, I am afraid that only people from the US at a certain age will understand my silly reference.
Imagine that with a killer plunger.
Yeah, I fucked up on the 12th. I’m a couple of decades out of practice on this stuff.
Thanks for the link.
Incidentally, we also spent a good chunk of time on French augmented 6th chords, which I consider to be the most useless thing I learned in college.
Janine, folks from my generation will be thinking of Ren and Stimpy’s fake commercial for “LOG,” FROM BLAMMO!
What rolls down stairs,
alone or in pairs
or over your neighbor’s dog?
It’s great for a snack,
it fits on your back, it’s Log, Log, Log!
It’s Log, Log,
It’s big, it’s heavy, it’s wood!
It’s Log, Log,
It’s better than bad, it’s good!
Though now I know what they were spoofing, so thanks.
Tain’t funny McGee.
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slignot, that is indeed good news.
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Caine, I hope you feel better tomorrow.
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Music discussion; I thought a triad was 3 notes. Ya’ll keep adding notes. If it’s more than 3? It ain’t a triad.
And aren’t there 12 notes in the western scale? So a 13th is the root. Right?
I can play a demented chord, it’s the saddest of all the chords.
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Ah, good old Ren and Stimpy.
I used to be such a big John K fan. Until I started reading his blog. The man is both a misogynist (I watched a video clip where he blames his show being cancelled on account of the studio being ‘full of dykes’) and he loathes any cartoon that isn’t in his spumco style, despite the fact that ren and stimpy is the ONLY good thing he’s ever made. (Anyone remember The Ripping Friends?)
@Janine
Actually, the first Dalek to ever overcome stairs in a televised adventure is in episode 1 of Remembrance of the Daleks, which is an old Who episode (1988, if I remember right). It was pretty much the big plot twist and cliffhanger of that episode.
I’ve seen the ‘tubes before, but thanks for the reminder. I considered getting one last year, but the AMNH giftshop is overprised.
Anyway, it seems I recalled the verb incorrectly. I doubt I’ve song this since Year 5.
And now that I listen to the whole thing, that’s a completely new and very heretical version I’ve heard before.
Someone really should read their Bible before singing about the stupid thing. It’s two or seven, not three, four, five or six. Anathema!
Before I force myself away from Pharyngula for a while of working on my homework:
I ♥ y’all. That includes everybody I was fighting with the other day and everybody else too. You’re awesome. On my worst day here, I’d still pretty much rather be here than anywhere else. I’ll second what SGBM once said:
And no, I’m not particularly sentimental at the moment. I don’t really know why, but this morning it just struck me that I needed to tell everybody that. So… there.
Ichthyic @24, thanks for the correction. I don’t know what I was thinking. Of course they’re catfish.
“Could follow pee upstream” would be hypothetically possible only in the water, not as the unlikely story has it, up into the air. but even that now seems unlikely. So they hide in fish’s gills? Is that for a safe place to hide or do they chew on the gills or eat food scraps?
The fool Norwegians…they can’t execute the fucker as he shits on them bragging that he would do it again.
All they can do is sing a song he doesn’t like.
All they are fit for is occupation by a superior power.
@joachin
Fuck you.
Wow, 40,000 people turned out to be snarky instead of violent. Pointing and laughing is SO much better than a lynch mob. I feel humbled by my Scandinavian friends.
It’s like Ghandi, only funnier.
Silence is golden, laughter is platinum.
Caine @Page 2 #144 of previous thread, thanks for the book reference–it looks very interesting.
When men worked and hunted and women kept the house, it was a series of home industries: keeping bees, extracting honey, brewing beer, raising sheep, goats, poultry, swine, and cattle, milking, making butter and cheese, spinning thread, making fabric, sewing clothes, fetching water, possibly gathering firewood, cooking, preserving food for the winter, baking, cleaning, mending, strewing rushes, gardening, collecting and saving seeds for next year, growing medicinal herbs, laundry, and tending wounds, not to mention educating children, bearing them, and raising them. It was not sitting home with one’s hands folded.
joachim, fuck you.
@Just a lurker
Funnily enough, the first time I was exposed to that franchise was when via TV Tropes, I found a fan made video of Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney and Friendship is Magic crossover, done in the style of Ace Attorney game/visual novel. I was a big fan of Ace Attorney, so of course I checked it out, and it turns out the pony characters were really good. I don’t know how in character the ponies were, but at the very least, the guy nailed the Ace Attorney portion, so I think he/she nailed the pony characters.
Sorry for the teal deer, I was crying too.
@The Sailor
All the male Republicans… I so feel like raging.
I presume everybody else noticed how serious and humorless this murderous jerk is.
The one thing such people can not stand is mockery. Time for Norwegian TV to run a comedy show featuring a black, gay Breivik who periodically appears in high drag: long blonde wig, lipstick and eye glitter for days, high heels, and that exaggerated mincing walk drag queens do so well.
A sort of cross between Monty Python and Laugh-in.
And has a white boyfriend. [I won’t pollute Pharyngula with the imagined sexual details, but you can easily guess what they’d be.]
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
All they are fit for is occupation by a superior power.
all you are fit for is occupation by a rotting porcupine corpse.
…OK, all I’ll say about Robert Pattinson before shutting up about him: Ing, when AI said “try to take his mind off the warped reality of his life for a while,” my mind was NOT in the gutter.
Besides, I think it would be much more satisfying to help him set fire to an army of Edward cutouts. Just think of all those sparkles turning into little cinders!
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Esteleth: Yep, Blue Hawaiian. Haven’t ever had one myself, but I hear they are indeed tasty delivery methods of liquid refreshment.
Every male Republican voted against it.
I used to think that would be a remarkable statement.
It was when I realized it no longer is that I jumped ship.
It’s better here.
really.
#20 icthyic:
You are confusing ureter and urethra.
Ureter: kidney to bladder.
Urethra: bladder to outside world.
You are confusing ureter and urethra.
right.
I knew better, and yet it still came out wrong.
not enough coffee i guess.
It’s Log, Log,
It’s big, it’s heavy, it’s wood!
It’s Log, Log,
It’s better than bad, it’s good!
…and not just for humans!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ichthyic/5173209601/in/photostream
Yeah, a triad is three notes. More than that, it’s a chord (or, in Emmylou Harris terminology, a crawdad).
The chromatic scale divides the octave into twelve notes; basically, all the notes on a piano from, say, middle C to the next highest C. A diatonic scale, which is what we mostly use here in the “west,” is a seven-note scale. So C major would be all the white keys on the piano from C to C. The eighth note would be the octave.
Raj is baaaaaack!!!!!!!
Interesting fact: Triggered myself being a dumbass. Another one of those moments where laughing, crying, and vomiting all seem equally likely.
Second interesting fact (the happy one): I’m watching ponies now. Thanks y’all bronies for that.
Where, A.R.?
Never get out of the boat.
@feralboy12
Ha, could be worse. You could be a percussionist. Dozens of instruments to learn. You spend three days analyzing the Tristan chord, we spend multiple days learning new instruments entirely on a regular basis.
@ibyea,
Delurking just to say that, coming at that same video from the exact opposite perspective (brony who never played any Ace Attorney games), it was hilarious. And the characters were very much in character. One of the things I love about the fandom is how much awesome fan-made content there is. Crap, too, naturally — nothing is immune to Sturgeon’s Law.
Also, I think “there’s a pony crossover of it, no exceptions” is now a de facto rule of the internet.
Then I’m pretty sure that the 13th is the root. But I could be mixolydian that up.
How many music theory majors does it take to change a light bulb?
Only one, if they’re a good conductor.
Oh, shit, tell me about it. I took a class in percussion fundamentals, one stinking credit, and it took up as much time as all my other classes combined.
It didn’t help that the professor, one Charles Dowd, had the nickname of “The Bald Ego.” He seemed to think his class was the only one that mattered.
Incidentally, I had a weird idea recently that involved analyzing music in terms of phase space and attractors. And jazz would be one type of music that would likely involve strange attractors. I would maybe pursue the idea, if I had any earthly reason to do so.
feralboy12, every professor thinks their class is the only one that matters.
and you are hardly the first person to equate chaos theory with music.
The folks I can’t stand to listen to are the ones who think Pi is a basis for their tuning. Sure, it’s interesting, but music, ehh, not so much.
But that’s just me, I’m an old curmudgeon who scraped by making a living as a sound engineer for 20 years.
@The Sailor:
Are we doing light bulb jokes now? Okay then.
How many physicists does it take to change a light bulb?
Three: A theoretician to describe the system as a Lagrangian, a phenomenologist to solve it for the relevant variables, and an experimentalist to go buy a light bulb and put it in the socket.
The Republic party has become the party of white males, mostly older, all either (a) complete hypocrites or (b) with serious sexual and religious hangups.
Some “political” party.
Update: I like ponies! :D
I want to add to to pile on joachim.
You, sir, are a waste of meat.
Please crawl out the window when you go.
Probably true, but most seem to have a better sense of what constitutes reasonable expectations with regard to time expenditures outside of class. I mean, one damn credit? Ugh.
No, I’m not, I assume. But I did so independently! I know that if I wanted to pursue the idea, I’d have to catch up with others.
The folks I can’t stand are the ones who treat the fundamentals of common practice as some sort of evil oppressive system, and think they’re rebelling against it in some meaningful new way when all they’re really doing is playing the same four chords in sloppy, unpredictable fashion.
But yeah, I’ve run into a lot of stuff that was “interesting” but not terribly musical. For all the math & science I brought into it, I still wanted music to make me feel something.
And I’m an old curmudgeon who scraped by making a living playing in bar bands for 15 years. Music school may have overqualified me for such an endeavor.
Oh–back in the day, when I built bicycle wheels for a living, I came up with a light bulb joke:
Q: How many wheelbuilders does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Bob.
OK, I guess you had to be there.
Partner is friends with the Chaplin at their almamater. Called to talk about the wedding. He just got word that the Vatican is sacking him. He’s not “Orthodox” enough to hold his chaplaincy. They want someone who will preach rather than help people apparently. The guy is probably going to have to put his father in a home now due to being forced to move away from him and not being able to care for him anymore.
The Catholic Church is a heartless perversion. They don’t give a shit about either the people or their own minions.
Welp, the inevitable has happened. As RFW stated above, the Republicans now appear to have only older, white males in its membership, and all of them either have serious hangups or suffer from an overdose of hypocrisy. Not that the Dems are too much better, but at least they don’t rely heavily on old white guys who can only whine and worry about their own hides when it comes to anything at all.
….right?
Please don’t tell me I’d be safer living in the woods with solar panels on my cabin and hunting wild game. I’d kind of miss coffee shops and art galleries. And, well, internet.
Esteleth: A one-off on TZT.
Correction: Raj is engaged in a hopeless battle with the Nerd
Christ, it works for everything!
But you knew that.
Dyeing my kid’s hair deep blood red tonight. This after I cut it into a hawk for him a couple nights ago. My sister once told me I’m not leaving him any ways to rebel XD
Damn, that sounds harsh. I’ve been playing percussion for almost nine years now – the only time where it manages to take up incredible amounts of time is during marching season and before annual auditions.
See, I march snare. Snare is a lead instrument. Drumline is held up on a pedestal for marching bands – in other words, I’m a lead player on top of a pedestal. Results in a number of things, arrogance, stress and broken sticks chief among them.
What did that percussion fundamentals class involve? I’m still in high school band (but I’m in both the advanced [termed symphonic] band and jazz band), but all we have to do for the percussion audition are snare, timpani, and mallet etudes along with a multiple percussion solo that involves snare, concert bass drum, tambourine and triangle (pretty lulzy going from bass drum to triangle, actually).
99% of our literature is on those instruments, with the occasional weird one thrown in (log drum, various effects [we call them toys], so on).
feralboy12 @ 93; this isn’t a meme here, but there is no part of your comment that I didn’t want to introduce myself to and … OK, let’s just say I liked that comment. All of it.
Two more images on my hunting hatchet:
Ruffed Grouse! http://tinypic.com/r/9tpuhd/6
Mule Deer! http://tinypic.com/r/2drwcg4/6
(The mule deer turned out thicker-legged than I would have liked it, but whatever, it still gets the point across. I may be able to ‘fix’ it later with a bit of subtle, creative linework)
Y’know, Norway is pretty fucking awesome sometimes.
Forty. Thousand. People. Singing Seeger.
That’d be kinda awesome anytime. But they’re doing it because of this?
(/Revision: Norway is just entirely awesome, sometimes.)
Ing:
When I read this…
…Tpyos blessed me with a vision of a silent-movie wedding officiated by a man in a black bowler hat and a bowtie with a vaguely Hitler-ish mustache!
;^)
The Laughing Coyote@102,
Nice work! I’ve been enjoying looking at the pix you’ve posted of your wood burning art.
Just finished page 1 of the last thread, man this is taking forever to finish! Page 2 here I come.
Tpyos also blessed me (@104) with that marvelously entertaining spelling of emphasis!
Thanks, Ray!
I have a whole ‘nother tomahawk to decorate next, since this one is a larger and more aggressive blade, I’m considering larger and more aggressive creatures, but I dunno yet. I’m also considering the opposite, a nice floral pattern of wild plants I know with small songbirds of various species.
Cassandra
Yay! /fluttershy
Welcome to the Herd!
/)*(\
Watching ponies is a serious cheer up. When medical stuff comes up, I like watching the one where Rainbow Dash was in the hospital.
The Season Two finale was just a week ago and it was awesome*.
That is to be heard in Rainbow Dash’s voice of course. =)
Love the spirit of a group of people who respond to mass murder with song. They are truly awesome.
Bought a house a month ago. Had an inspection. By a moron, apparently. As two days ago the main sewer pipe in the house fell apart, leaving one hell of a smelly and expensive mess.
Happy birthday to me! Dudes with jackhammers and blowtorches in my basement? Just what I always wanted!
/grumble
Pets.
And we arrive back at the question of whether I will throw up.
Dishes, then it looks like time for MOAR PONIES!
J_A_L, I haven’t gotten very far yet so I barely know what you’re talking about, sad to say :C I bet I will soon! I do have to say that I love Fluttershy and Twilight Sparkle so far. Applejack and Pinkie Pie are both a bit much for me. Shoosh. *shushes them*
Happy birthday to me!
wow. That’s uh, one hell of a bday prezzie!
sayamika, the killer bunny
You’re getting your sewer fixed!
yay!
Happy Birthday!
*glitter*
*room deodorizer*
(did you used to have a whip?)
The Laughing Coyote@107, Looking forward to checking out which way you go with it.
OK caught up. Now I go to bed, get up tomorrow and go to work, and by the time I get home to check in I’ll be 600 comments behind again! Oh Pharyngula/ TET, why are you filled with such interesting posts and commenters?
I think I may have to go back to ignoring TET until my “weekend”. Bummer.
I went for a chat and a movie tonight with an old friend that I used to work with at Bible camp. She’s halfway through a theology degree, and I was pleasantly surprised to see how much she has liberalized. Back in our camp days together (2004-2006), we were both pretty much fundamentalists. Now she’d probably be classified as a liberal Christian in most regards.
I know that “sophisticated theology” gets a bad rap around here, and I do agree that it’s all still utterly false and faith is a bad idea. But since my friend is unlikely to abandon her faith anytime soon, I’m glad that studying theology has made her more liberal. She even made positive comments about gay people tonight! It’s a huge difference from the days when she was telling me about how self-destructive she thought homosexuality was.
I was pretty uncomfortable around her for a long time after I became an atheist, but tonight I felt like the old friendship was back. We’ve both changed a lot, but somehow it’s worked out okay. Old friends are precious, and I’m glad I don’t have to lose this one.
@localnebula
Best part about that fan made crossover video is Rarity’s post office rant: “WHY AREN’T THERE MORE PENS?! TELL ME! WHY AREN’T THERE MORE PENS?!”, and now that I understand the meme, “I tried to love and tolerate it, BUT IT WOULDN’T STOP!”.
@ibyea
I don’t remember Rarity being in it. Are we talking about the same video? [checks YouTube] Holy crap, another THREE HOURS since I last watched?
Confound these ponies, they drive me to drink.
I *love* MLP:FIM but I don’t identify myself as a brony because IME in general people who have done so have annoyed the hell out of me by acting like the target demographic. I don’t mean they act like 8 year old girls, but like FIM was made for them somehow, when yes, they are majority dudes who are way older than it’s meant. Can’t you just like something for little girls? I managed okay with Transformers, which is the gender distaff version of that. Why’s it gotta be for you? I’m assuming people here don’t do that, so no beef with you.
Unrelated, and this will seem completely random (and is the genesis of my showing up), did y’all get a troll named Eurotrash? He showed up on manboobz when I offered this community as an example of how, as a matter of fact, educated lay people can in fact offer critiques of studies (A shitty feminist showed up telling us evopsych was solid science. You may laugh now) if they understand the principles that make for good science, and he just showed up out of the blue, talking about how y’all are pseudointellectuals and complaining that Myers was a second rate academic (I’m mostly paraphrasing). And I’m the curious sort… X3
For a half second I thought it might be Porco Dio but there’s not enough confused racist jackassery.
Oh no, they damn well could. If a state can arrest you, it can execute you. They choose not to, because it would be inethical to execute even a fucker like him.
When a hateful, biggoted prick says stupid shit like that about you, you’re doing it right.
I repeat: When a hateful, biggoted prick says stupid shit like that about you, you’re doing it right.
Fascinating. Will keep that under advisement and may merit a pony avatar on Steam. Do you suppose I’d risk misgendering for doing so (I am a woman)
*nominates this person for a Humanitarian Of The Century Award and complimentary fruit-basket, and proceeds to make arrangements for a ticker-tape parade and commemorative holiday*
FUCK, My apologies, My previous comment was in response to something I totally misread. I recant my rude sarcasm. My apologies.
I think I need an early bedtime tonight. Sorry.
RFW
Fuck you. Your trans- and gay-shaming bullshit is not welcome here. Fuck off and never come back.
Weed Monkey: Wonder how long before the stupid fuck accuses you of having no sense of humor?
People who use stereotypes as objects of fun are just so edgy and clever… I never get sick of it!
(There, now THAT’s doing sarcasm right)
Weed Monkey
wait a mo’
Perhaps RFW could explain why that would be Funny™.
and also explain why RFW did not include kicking “cripples”.
(trying to catch up. failing)
slignot
conga rats for the turnaround re crazy department director and spouse (and especially for the timing irt your dad’s birthday dinner. Trying to celebrate with someone when you yourself are upset and trying to cope with really shitty stuff is painful).
Maintaining a nukazuke bed is way more work than maintaining sourdough.
and way
smellierstinkier.A new kind of eukaryote identified http://phys.org/news/2012-04-scientists-remotest-relative-lake-sludge.html
Speaking of Breivik, this organism -a crude, primitive thing- was found in the oozing mud of a Norwegian lake.
I’m kind of happy with this corollary to Poe’s law: ‘If parody and the real thing are indistinguishable, the real thing exists. You fuckwit.’
Yes, the ‘you fuckwit’ part is necessary.
1) For those who can access BBC iPlayer there is an excellent documentary called My Name Is Not Hey Baby on Radio 4. It’s a cracking bit of feminist radio.
It’s one of those programmes that really brings it home to me how sexist I am. I don’t harass women in the street, or pinch bottoms etc, I’m not that guy and never have been, but I love it when feminist ideas clash with my unexamined assumptions. The tension makes me think, and thus far I have invariably found that the old ideas and assumptions I have are utter crap and that I need to modify my ideas towards more feminist ones. I like being wrong!
I hope it’s obvious from discussions here I don’t get all the basics wrong, but I genuinely find it hard to combat the ingrained ideas of sexual licence (for example) that men culturally have over women. I do look at women and think about them based on their appearance for a split second, in a way I simply don’t do for men, and I recognise it as completely a legacy of cultural ideas not sexual ones. One of the things I love about the internet is I can interact with women without this weakness on my part, and it really helps me to learn to combat this weakness out there in meatspace.
I stress these initial “looks and thoughts” are flashes, tiny flickering instant thoughts that are never verbalised and swiftly squished by second thoughts about brains and what not, but to me this isn’t a “oh woe is me” but a “whoa how fucking influenced by misogynistic culture am I?”. It’s a call to vigilance and self critique, not defensiveness and self flagellation.
Does any of that teal deer TMI psycho babble make sense? Please be gentle!
So thank you women for millennia of subjugation and oppression because you have allowed one man to think. (This part is an joke)
2) I read the candiru discussion with interest. Especially the bit from Icthyic about some candiru species reaching 16 inches in length. {Braces self for obvious joke} Well it’ll be a bit of a squeeze, but I think I can get one inside my cock. The top half, obviously. {I has a shame. It’s a compulsion. I should get some sort of grant or something}
3) Hey thread! I has a reading of you! Mwah, mwah, darlings!
Louis
P.S. Joachim: Oh aren’t you sweet! Please do not hesitate to play a charming game of hide and go fuck yourself.
P.P.S. RFW: Yes, gay and trans people are just there as means to insult and belittle others. Speaking for them, as neither a gay or trans person because I totally can do that, it’s my right an privilege, they are happy to serve as the objects of fun and ridicule for us all by being used to upset a bigot. Oh don’t worry, we know it’s Breivik’s hatred of gay and trans people you are lampooning, but you’re doing it wrong. Please join Joachim. If you hide long enough, I’m sure you can both fuck yourselves pretty thoroughly.
@ruteekatreya:
Subtle acknowledgements (*cough*Derpy*cough*) of the unintended fandom aside, it’s the old fallacy that your own aesthetic experience must somehow match author intent. MLP:FiM was, and is, designed for little girls. Unlike too many things targeted at that demographic, though, it was also designed not to suck.
More humorous take on how self-evidently untargeted the brony demographic is: http://fav.me/d3d4t5w
Also, I never did care for Transformers, despite being in the target audience. Except that time Starscream got his ass kicked by Rainbow Dash. That was pretty awesome.
Louis:
Wow — a 32 inch cock!
(Do people recognise you by the wheelbarrow you push?)
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* I’d be braced too.
John,
Elephantiasis is a nightmare. Mind you, my work in the circus has really taken off…
Louis
[musings]
Circus…
Ah, remember when a geek was a freak show artiste who would bite the heads off live chickens?
(Me neither)
Would it be weird to get a life-sized tattoo of the Emperor Moth as kind of a symbol of my transgenderism? I think it’s the most beautiful moth there is.
Not that it’s likely to happen or anything, I’m mostly just musing.
I have thought about getting the mother in law to do the bearded lady act…
…is this thing on? Am I too hip for the room? Tip your waitress. Try the veal. I’m here all week. And so on and so forth.
Louis
ObRef: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freak_show#History
Katherine, not really subtle, is it?
Katherine Lorraine,
Speaking as a MASSIVE fan of tattoos (and you, but we’ll leave THAT alone for the moment!) I think it gets a double thumbs up from me.
I only have the two tats, well hidden, but boy do I want more. The only problem is, and I know how weaksauce this is, it helps to pass as a straight-down-the-line middle class privileged male. I do a large amount of presenting my freaky side (I’m not closeted about atheism or kink for example, if the topic comes up) when it’s necessary, and I’m never less than vocal coming to the defence of various things or calling out bigotry, but I confess to my own hypocrisy. I take advantage of appearing more conventional than I am when I need to (work, interviews, the like).
Damn I’m reflecting on my own hypocrisy too much today…ignore me, ignore me.
YES get the tat! GET IT! POST PIX!*
Louis
* Pix or did not happen! ;-)
@John:
The female’s only about three inches wide. And really pretty. That’s kinda subtle. I don’t typically wear revealing clothing…
See? So pretty!
Katherine, speaking as the anti-Louis*, I think you could surely do much worse.
(Yeah, it’s pretty)
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* my attitude to body decoration as opposed to maintenance is on record. ;)
John,
I am also in favour of body maintenance. Does that make us only semi opposed?
Louis
Mrs. BigDumbChimp is out of town for the weekend on a canoe / kayak trip with a bunch of her buddies.
This is usually when my drinking and cooking adventures reach Public air-horn warning levels.
Trying to premeasure the shame levels Monday will bring.
@103.AJ Milne :
Agreed – the mass singalong of Breivik’s least favourite song was a great idea.
Well done Norway, great response.
BTW. Wasn’t it also Norway where when Hitler came to take away the Jews in WWII the Norweigan King (or was it a Queen?) and just about every Norweigan in the nation chose to wear the yellow Jewish Star of David* symbol to stop them?
++++++++++++++++++++
* Technically, ‘Magen David’ or Shield of David but everyone seems to think its a star so, yeah.
@Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort :
For whatever little it may be worth, that’s sounds like a cool and reasonable and fine idea to me.
Nothing weird about it in my view, tattoos and stuff obviously being very much an entirely and deeply personal issue and choice. Sounds good.
@120. The Laughing Coyote (Canis Sativa) :
I can relate to that. [Wry smile.]
Plenty of times I’ve needed an early night – and haven’t had one.
I have (*ahem*) been known to post drunk and say the odd thing when tird and intoxicated that I’ve later regretted too.
Louis,
Not even a bit — hey, it’s your body!
(Were I to smirk a little at your affectation for self-decoration, I would not be blatant about it)
Rev BDC,
Hmmm I understand your pain.
I find that when the Beloved Mrs is away things can get out of hand. There’s drinking, Unapproved Activities (such as illegal flatulence, consumption of cheesy Wotsits*, lounging around watching horror films in my underwear, excessive baconing of all meals, pie floaters, and reading “Evolution of Life and Origins of the Biosphere”** without permission), and possibly even A Night Out With The Boys.
What you have to weigh up is whether or not is is more painful to have a weekend of virtue and gentility or wake up naked in a pool of Wotsit crumbs and pizza crusts, smelling like a brewery crashed into a pig farm, when your wife’s key hits the lock.***
Louis
* Cheesy poofs.
** Hardcore chemistry porn.
*** I should point out, in a rushed and overly defensive disclaimer, that I am in no way this much of a slob in reality. I always wear a T-shirt.
What day is it?
Ugh! Where is my life disappearing to?
Colour purple. My school uniform was purple.
Nutmeg: Bears trump a tropical fish for scariness. Even one that would brave Louis’ 32 inches.
On theology studies: I once found myself arguing with a theist about theology. His contention that theology was a sound science and worth studying was met with derision from me. Made worse when he told me that at the start of the course, the participants were expected to declare their faith. I tried to point out that that made it incompatible with science, to which he responded, accusingly, that I believe in electrons (I don’t, I have evidence for their existence- said I) at which point he started shouting and ranting. I remember thinking that his theology studies were obviously working out well for him.
Hello everyone.
Yes, it really is pretty.
I’ve been thinking about getting a tattoo for years, but I’m afraid of needles and worse, afraid that I will change my mind about liking it after a couple of years.
A bit of a cliche, but I would like something like this one
Hi Catnip!
I don’t know about that. When the Germans came to Norway, our King promptly tucked his tail between his legs and ran off to England.
A couple of days later, the Germans had crushed all Norwegian military resistance.
The people reacted pretty ordinarily: A few brave men grabbed their rifles and maybe some dynamite, and headed for the mountains, guerilla style. They had much support from the locals.
But most people just continued their ordinary lives, plus the odd “sieg Heil” when an officer passed by. They only misbehaved when the Germans couldn’t see them.
No. That was Denmark. However the Norwegians, unlike the Danes, resisted the German invasion. You can easily look these things up, you know: there’s this thing called “Google”; you may have heard of it.
@Beatrice:
I don’t think I’d ever stop loving moths. They’re so pretty, and one of the insects I regularly try to help regardless of where they are (and you have to be so freakin’ gentle with them, it’s hard to save them compared to – say – a shield beetle.)
I know everyone and their mom says “butterflies are prettier!” and that they should be the symbol of transition and metamorphosis, but you know what, screw that noise. Moths are prettier IMO. And butterflies (and moths) don’t hold the monopoly on transition. Frogs transition. Newts transition. Tch… moths can be as much a symbol of transition as a frog can.
And with that, who wouldn’t want a cute little froggie on their shoulder somewhere as a tattoo :3
StevoR
Not sure about Norway, but I think it may actually have been Denmark that you are thinking of, and (as it turns out) this may have been untrue The Danish Jewish population was largely evacuated to Sweden (not all of them), but Danish Jews were never actually required to wear the star of David during the nazi occupation. Norwegian Jews were not so lucky.
Cute little froggie meets pretty moth?
(Nom!)
Hi there
Yay for Mr. slignot
Katherine
If you want it, go for it.
No tatoos for me, but whatever you see fit.
And they are pretty.
kristinc
He’ll turn conservative for rebellion, I tell you!
++++++
We-ell, I think I’m getting to understand my mum better, why she did what she did, why she obviously tried to perpetrade a vicious cycle. Maybe it was one that started three generations ago.
She definetly tried to make me re-enact her life, because everything else would invalidate every choice she’s ever made.
She’s never been somebody who was secure of other people’s affection. She always got mightily jealous of other people who might get a bit of attention.
I suppose I’m currently making that much harder for her than it already is, distancing myself from her, but it can’t be helped.
And I’m glad I fucked up.
Certainly at some point in her life, my mother was where I am now. But she got drunk where I got help.
That doesn’t make me better, but hopefull
Well I do have a list of “honey-dos” and some real “work” work which I should be able to complete tomorrow during the day no problem if I stay focused on the goal, and if I keep the shenanigans to a reasonable level tonight. I give that about a 50/50 shot as long as I stay home. Staying home of course means access to my quickly expanding horde of whisk(e)y and me cooking something large, overly complicated and time consuming but ultimately amazing and damaging to my health and that can rapidly get out of control. Thankfully my big Labrador will be there reign me in.
Luckily for me she’ll be back late Sunday so I will have plenty of time to tidy up and I, if my grand plan works out, will be belly up at my most favoritest watering hole by 11 am for brunch having had brisket, eggs and grits a couple bloodys and a selection of beers and completely monopolized the remote control to make sure the tv closest to me (or Tele as I hear you chaps are apt to call it) stays on the baseball game of my choice. I might, should my shame levels still be lower than expected, even have some pork skins, with pimento cheese a dash of Cholula and lime. I will for the most part avoid any daytime whiskey (or whisky for that matter) consumption as that would be uncivilized.
Hopefully the dogs will have finished cleaning the parts of the house is missed by the time I return. Should past excursions such as the one Mrs. BDC is on provide any foretelling of her state of being, she will be too tired and past the point of stern scolding for any remaining evidence of my debauchery. I will however expect an eye-roll of disappointment and possibly a sigh or 2.
And she knows this goes on every time she goes out of town so there’s that.
Oh and she’s out of town next weekend too…
CC:
Yes, what a slimy piece of shit that turned out to be. I just want it banned.
Joachim & RFW, you’re both wastes of oxygen and space.
Kat Lorraine: I think that’s a great idea for a tat. You may think you’ll never do it, but find a good image and put it away. Find out who’s the best tat artist in your area and put that info away too. You’ve grown leaps and bounds in a short time and you gain more confidence and courage every day. It might not be that long a time that you decide to get that tat, just for you.
Folks, I’m just warning you that the zombie apocalypse is on its way.
By the smell of it, something must have died in my fridge*. Carefull examination (aka cleaning) hasn’t produced a body, so it must have walked out of it on its own.
*please let me assure you that this is not a frequent occurence. I put things in there when they’re dead already (except lettuce) and take them out before they come to life again.
Therefore: Ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun!
Kat Lorraine:
Moths are beautiful, some of them are absolutely stunning. I rescue moths and dragonflies all the time. I can’t always get photos (they’re hard to take with a moth clinging to your finger), but two rescues:
http://moblog.net/view/174612/rescue-operation and http://moblog.net/view/326092/afternoon-rescue and this tiny moth was a delightful surprise: http://moblog.net/view/841133/you-lookin-at-me
PARTY AT THE REV’S PLACE!!!!!!!
I’ll bring the suicider and assorted Cornish pasties. I reckon I can whip up some recreational pharmaceuticals in a week too. Everyone place their orders now, I’ll get synthesising. Pick your favourites from TIKAL and PIKAL.
;-)
Louis
@John Morales:
D: Nooo, froggie, no nomming moth! You must live in harmony with the pretty buggie!!! Stop being mean! Oh… but you’re so cute I must hug you now… :3
@Giliell:
Yeh, I may not get one anytime soon cause tattoo needles make me go all *Eeeek* but yea. It’s something I’m musing on.
@Caine:
Maybe, maybe. Most of the growing I’ve been doing recently is just realizing how much a stupid I was when I was a teenager. Should’ve been at the place I’m at right now about 12 years ago XD
It’s cute little gecko meets pretty moth, but yeah, it wouldn’t end well for the moth.
oh curse you blockquote. Curse you with a fleet of rabid ferrets stuffed in your shorts.
I think if you don’t have a feminine name or other indicator, people on the internet always assume your a man. My experience anyways.
So they might think you’re a man but everyone I’ve dealt with hasn’t been a creep or jerk about it (about the ponies or being a woman). Ponies are awesome and everybody can love ponies. Pony avatar just means you have awesome taste XD
I’m not sure why the default is to think you’re a man.
I’m hesitant to encourage anyone to do this just because I know there are some jerks out there and don’t want you to deal with them. But for my online gaming, I’ve made indications about ponies on my accounts and have had nothing but good things come from it. YMMV.
I dunno if I’d call the Big Leboski reference episode sublte..
Lauren Faust has straight up said the show was designed for little girls and their parents. Both of them, so she wasn’t surprised there was over lap of men without children.
The meme with “Yeah, this show is for little girls” over a picture of like say, a fight scene shows this fallacy. However, I think it’s mostly in response to people who think little girls show = crap.
Lauren Faust is a totally awesome feminist. The bronies I’ve dealt with no longer do the feminazi crap because Lauren Faust is a feminist. They now listen and get it more now. Althought I know there are assholes that think Lauren Faust = cool girl and still believe in the “femnazi” crap. I’ve never dealt with them but I’ve seen the memes/posts etc.
Also, that is just the only think I could find with both posts of hers in there. I have no idea about that site. There are more posts from her about bronies, I’m just having trouble finding them atm. >.<
I’m done with the joey toy if anyone else wants to play with it. Borring arguing with Washinton and Adams views rather than his own
Luna moths are also quite beautiful. :)
Katherine, I think that’s a great idea. Just be sure to find an excellent tattoo artist who doesn’t end up making it look like a kid drew it on with a Crayola marker.
I am very happy, because we saw a great jazz band last night and elder son was transfixed by the upright bass player (son also plays bass), who was really getting his groove on the entire time. A little while in, son leaned over and said “that bass player is crazy awesome!” So it had pretty much exactly the effect I wanted it to have. :)
It was an attempt at a throw-away joke about impossible guitar fingerings thrown into songs by assholes. I am sorry. I have to remember that even a failed attempt at a joke can send this whole thread over a cliff like a bus full of nuns.
RFW:
I am confused. Why is gay or transgendered a bad thing?
People have a hard time understanding that, in just about any endeavor, you have to be really good before you can start breaking the rules and going off on your own. Whether photography, music, history, palaeontology, whatever, until you know the rules, the fundamentals of common practice, stepping outside of them is usually a recipe for disaster unless you really, really, really know what the fuck you are doing.
In my high school band, it was routine for the snare drummers to go through four or five sticks during one parade. They had extras hanging on the drum.
The moth is very beautiful – could a tat do it justice? I suppose there are some amazing tattoo artists, but the moth’s wings are so incredibly detailed!
Hope you’ll post a pic if you do decide to go for it!
(I sort of quite fancied a small ankle rat about or just below the level of the talus, but like a lot of folks I always think I’ll change my mind later …)
opposablethumbs, there are amazing ink artists all over the place. I only have two tats, but I want more. I don’t regret mine. I have a turtle I drew myself on my right wrist, I get compliments on it all the time and I’ve had it for ages now.
This video is awesome!
Four African men dispel Hollywood stereotypes about African men, in two minutes. Part of a larger campaign.
@carlie:
Ehehe, that was great. I loved the “Shirtless Matthew McConaughey” part XD
Opposablethumbs,
Pfffft to those other people. I love my tats– they’ve just become a part of me, you know?
Damn. What was he investing in (so I know to avoid it)?
Carlie,
Did you see last night’s Community and wasn’t it just the most awesome thing ever?
Moth related story (warning: contains sort-of violence against moths committed by me when I was younger but has a happy ending)
The summer after 8th grade, my dad made me get a job at my town’s country club, on the grounds crew. This meant a summer of getting up at 6 am every day, so sleep was a problem for me. One morning at around 3 or so, I was awakened by a weird humming sound coming from my window. It completely freaked me out to discover that the sound was being caused by a big (pretty) orange and brown moth flapping around in the blinds; Venomoth used Confusion and it was super effective!
Anyway, my half-awake brain decided the best solution to this moth was to twist up a floor towel and start whipping the moth with it. After like five minutes of towel snaps, the moth was no worse off than when I had begun, so I found a cup to catch it in and released it outside the house with a newfound respect for all things moth-y.
In other news, I am now the proud owner of a VaporGenie. Now I can enjoy my herbal blends (as per manufacturer instructions) without fear of stinking up my apartment or bothering my lungs! For $35, I wish I had ordered one long ago.
Apropos of nothing, “The Wire” is awesome television. That is all.
Louis
I’ve taken to listening to Hitch-22 audiobook in the car on my way to and from work. Pure awesome. That is all.
yes it is Louis
I really have to wonder about some parents.
It is cold here. Not brutal, but for late April, 39F is cold. And the wind is blowing. Hard.
Family walks up — Mom, dad, little boy (~5), little girl (~7). Dad is wearing jeans, a flannel shirt, sweater, leather jacket and wool hat. Mom is wearing jeans, a sweater, and a long coat. Little boy is wearing jeans, flannel shirt, heavy jacket and a stocking cap. Little girl is wearing a stocking cap, a short wool jacket, and a short skirt. No leggings, no tights, no socks, and the shoes are sandals. Mom, dad and little boy were comfortable. Girl complains that she is cold. Mom tells her it isn’t that cold, stop shivering.
I really have to wonder about some parents.
Louis,
Just to bring it full circle, Michael Kenneth Williams (Omar) was on last night’s episode of Community*– he has a recurring role as the biology prof.
Also, he’s brilliant in Boardwalk Empire and has been cast to play Ol Dirty Bastard in an upcoming biopic. (Can you tell that I lurve Michael Kenneth Williams?)
*He kept talking about “the code”. :D
Ogvorbis:
Oh hey, it’s more important she’s girly, rather than comfortable and warm, doncha know.
I would have made a comment directly to the little girl: yes, it’s much too cold out for a skirt.
I just found this site Literally Unbelievable and it truly does live up to its name.
/facepalm
Audley – not yet! We were at a concert, so I promised elder son that I’d wait to watch it until after he came home from school today.
OMG, Carlie. All I will say is that it’s better than the second pillow fort vs blanket fort episode. For realz. :)
Rutee: I agree with you. Notwithstanding the existence of decent people who call themselves “bronies,” what I’ve seen of “brony culture” validates this blogger.
Also, any term with “bro” in it makes my teeth grind. I’m so tired of “bros” and “d00ds” and the like.
Slignot, good for your spouse.
Janine/Sally, I always thought that “LOG” would be a great campaign song for Buddy Cianci.
TLC: Yeah, Kricfalusi went through a divorce and got all MRA-like after that.
Joachim, fuck off.
Ing, that fucking sucks, w/r/t the chaplain.
Nutmeg, I’m glad your friend has become more liberal and that you’re able to continue the friendship.
Weed Monkey:
This. Other people’s gender identity, sexual orientation, or race aren’t anybody’s rhetorical weapons.
Kitty, yes, by all means, get the tat. I don’t do ink myself, but friends who do say that the more it means to you on a deeply personal level, the less likely you are to regret it in the future.
While I don’t have kids of my own, I have friends that do, and sometimes convincing them that no, it is going to be cold, and you should put on something warmer, is resisted strongly. At which point parent usually indicates to said child that if they absolutely won’t put on warmer clothes then they won’t get any sympathy later if they complain about being cold.
But if the clothing wasn’t the choice of the girl then yes, fail at parenting.
We got one of those incredibly nice posts in the A poll to kill for thread:
Louis: You are needed on TZT. RE: troll fighting arrangements.
Only caught up till comment 550 of the previous subthread. Gotta run.
That was a response to “fish are OK, right?”.
And you tell them beforehand about this, right? Perhaps put it on the test, too, in boldface with a frame around it or something.
Neither. It’s vocabulary.
:-)
Thirded!
David:
Ah, I gotcha.
Here’s hoping that I am actually okay with fish inside me.
Protests in Topeka, KS against SB 142, a/k/a “the Kansas Preservation of Religious Freedom Act.”
How can you not discriminate based on gender but can based on gender identity?
That’s like saying you can’t discriminate based on what hats people wear, but can against people wearing bowlers.
Kat, I say go for it if you want. I didn’t look at the pic (on my phone, so it is kinda hard), but depending on the level of detail you want, you may have to go bigger than life-sized. There’s a limit to what needles can do. Or you may have to shop around for a studio that specializes in small detail. It’s possible to do small, intricate work, but it’s specialized enough that not all artists need to learn it or get the tools.
Tattoos are not like regular needles. It’s more like a burning or scraping sensation, not like being punctured. Although I will say that getting my foot done was a totally different experience. I’ve had to make artists stop 3 times ever in ~20 hours of work. Twice was due to my blood sugar tanking, not pain. The third time was less than 10 seconds into getting my foot done. It felt like nonstop wasp stings. I’ve had 8 hours on my back alone, and I would do that again before I did the foot (though the recovery is another story).
I do not regret any of my tats. One was covered with a different one, but it wasn’t because I didn’t like it. I was out of room, and there was a personal angle that’s hard to explain. It was a way of moving on from what had been my biggest grief (my best friend dying at 20) to what I am pretty sure will remain the biggest loss of my life (losing my dad). But I recognize that’s all highly idiosyncratic.
And now we’ve reached the place where my memory of TET fails, but it’s too clunky to scroll up on my phone. *sigh*
What’s with this, Biology types ?
@Ogvorbis, I’ve seen this sort of shit myself and it makes me crazy. Little girls put into seasonally inappropriate “girly” clothing is much more common than it should be. I always want to smack parents around here who think onesie, hat and socks are perfectly adequate for their infant while they’re wrapped up in gloves, scarf, hat and coat.
Thanks for all the good thoughts after I left yesterday, everyone! Feeling significantly happier about stuff in general, and looking forward to my dad’s birthday. I’m going to hybridize a chocolate cake by staggering german chocolate icing (since not everyone is a fan) and ganache. Hoping it turns out pretty looking; I like making cakes. Spouse has decided to be a crazy person and try to cook meat using temperature regulated water and a cooler for four hours. I’m slightly apprehensive, but hopefully it turns out as he hopes.
@Rorschatch
Just from the title I’m guessing it’s horribly misleading. Protozoa have been infamously difficult to categorize and last I checked there was serious debate over how many new branches they should split it up into.
Ing,
I agree, it’s stupid as shit, but I’d be willing to bet that the people who wrote/support this bill think physical sex=gender and anything else is OMG! PERVERTED AND SINFUL AND UNNATURAL AND MAKES BABY JESUS CRY!
The artical is absurdly bad
You got to be shitting me? Fungus, Alga (which incorporates at least two different Kingdoms IIRC), parasite (which is NOT a kingdom nor any other sort of taxonomic clade), plant or animal?
Jesus fuck that is horribly wrong on basic biology 101
Given that gaff in the article I think it’s safe to just throw it out and wait for someone less stupid to report the findings.
Why, precisely, am I the only adult in the house who is thought to have the genital configuration necessary to clean out the refrigerator when it smells? DaughterSpawn heard this suggestion this morning and said she rolled her eyes while still mostly asleep. To their credit, though, I seriously doubt that either of the Spawns believe that fridge cleaning requires a uterus or causes one to grow one, so I think the fridge will be cleaned without my maternal uterus having to step up to the task.
I have a beard – can I be in the Pharyngula Freak Show? Of course, I spend time waxing the damn thing off, but that’s the only hair removal I can be bothered with, and is primarily because I have to stand up in front of groups of people who are likely to make some judgments about facial hair on fat women and thus tune out my actual words…
On the clitoral kludge issue: someone pointed out that women who worked in factories used to orgasm while using treadle sewing machines. Now I know why many women prefer spinning wheels to hand spindles, despite (to my mind) their severe lack of portability and general mechanical crankiness. And I’m never going to listen to “I find the treadling to be very relaxing” statements without having an inner smirk. I have a treadle spinning wheel, but really, I can get my stim in ways that don’t necessarily have yarn as a side effect. On the other hand, since I’m supposed to be doing a public spinning event for my job tomorrow, perhaps I’ll bring the wheel after all – the whole topic gives a new flavor to the Talmudic and Roman Empire prohibitions on women spinning in public. (The treadle wheel did not exist then, but perhaps the MSF inspired those ancient prudes with His Ineffable Knowledge of What Was to Come™.)
See, this is when I miss Chas. I threw this out because I know how much the biology folks here love to quarrel about classifications…Who cares whether it has one or two or four flagella. Wait !!! Flagella ?
PZ is off to aanother conference. Does this mean another Trollodon infestation?
It was the flagella that first led to the conclusion that not only were fungi not plants, they were actually far more closely related to animalia than plantae. So yeah, flagella.
@Rorschach
Yeah but this isn’t even open to debate. “Parasite” is never a classification. It’s just wrong wrong wrong. Saying it’s a parasite doesn’t tell you whether it’s flora or fauna for crying out loud. They would have been less wrong to say “animal, vegetable or mineral”
Besides, its 0230 am, I’ve just popped some painkiller come sleeping device, so I expect blissful oblivion to engulf me sooner rather than later (after an insanely busy shift). But I will check in tomorrow…:-) Need to buy a travel guide on China tomorrow, too, to not look a total moron when I walk into the Forbidden City.
So really this isn’t that big of a news story. Almost par the course for protists.
Clearly. I mean, duh !
From Rorschach’s link:
Am I missing something? The article said that these things were 30 micrometers long, and yet they can be individually harvested from the lake bed?
Geez, I step away for half an hour to analyze data and everyone mocks bad science without me!
That article is ridiculous. I don’t know anything about protists and even I can tell how terribly wrong it is. Notice the lack of reference to any publications?
People who know about this kind of stuff – is counting flagella a commonly-used strategy for classification? I would have thought the number of flagella would be too variable to use for classification into large groups.
From the comments to the CBS News article about “Children of the Rainbow”….
Well, that’s a brand-new misspelling.
Did I ever mention that when I was in high school, I once saw “SAYTON RULES!!” graffito’ed on a desk? The silver lining was that someone else had replied, “It’s Satan, you fucking idiot!”
Daisy:
Yes, but that might have been an english as a second language problem. I’ve noted that most ‘mericans tend to run with Satin, which is delightful given what they are generally spewing.
As far as I know the push is to redraw and regroup based on genetics. Protis was a catchall group for everything that clearly wasn’t plant animal or fungi so its the group that will face the most radeical revisions and splinters.
@rorschatch: translated it says that depending on how you’re classifying its not uncommon for there to be protist groups with only onerepresentational species…so this news story isn’t even all that earth shattering.
But she was sure cute!
Yeah, but in that case the mother would have said something like “I told you it’s going to be cold and that you should wear tights”, not “it’s not cold”.
#1 had to experience cold a couple of times.
I told her before, she didn’t heed, she got cold. If we planned to be out for longer I would pack something. Not fair on the others that we should have to go home because #1 was frozen solid.
So nowadays, when I say “honey please put on something warm”, she knows why.
Am I the only one who is watching the video in the OP constantly and bawling?
Virginia Plain-Roxy Music
Tell that to Dembski. 4 flagella ! I mean, think of all the design that would have had to have gone into it. I picture the designer, frustrated with humanity’s continuing unbelief, designing a creature designed to open our eyes once and for all, with not one flagellum, but four !
Anyway, bedtime. Also, Walking Dead season 3 isn’t scheduled until this (northern hemisphere) fall. That’s like 6 months away. Hurry up, AMC.
I don’t know if the little girl had input into her dress or not. I suspect that, if it were her choice, mom or dad would have reinforced that the decision was a poor one. Judging from mom and dad’s denial that it was cold, I suspect that she wore what she was told to wear but I have no evidence to sustain this position except that mom and dad did not blame her for a poor decision.
The New St George-Richard Thompson
Caine, it’s possible that BalletPoet is ESL, but their overall writing style struck me as Amurkin Fundie.
Unrelatedly, over on B&W, there’s this ignoramus called “Boomer.” The GLBT people here may wish to reply to this comment.
Stay In Time-Off Broadway
Professional Gays? Really? Jesus jumped up Christ.
I’m a professional. And I’m gay. Can I put that on my CV?
Caine, he seems ignorant on just about anything to do with gender. And verbose, and patronizing.
Hmmm, I like that. I’m a big fan of tats, but I do get tired of seeing the conventional designs, the ones that looks like they were just picked off the wall with not much thought put into them.
With those distinctive eye-spots, the emperor moth definitely makes for a potentially good design, easy to do ‘realistic’ or stylized in various ways.
Any tattoo, even one you absolutely know you’ll love like this, shouldn’t be rushed into, but I’d definitely say ‘Go for it.’
I don’t know about professional gays, but there sure are a shit ton of professional gay-haters. We have far more than a kilopoop of evangelical fundamentalists in the USA, not to muntion other countries.
Pulling Mussels (From The Shell)-Squeeze
Skip to 1:10.
:) Not from the lake bed, but they’re probably talking about pulling them out of a sample put into a petri dish. There are definitely pipettes that are designed for single-celled organisms, so well within normal bounds.
Calling a parasite a taxonomic group, though, not even.
Oh yeah. The excavates are ridiculously diverse. I had to stop myself from kind of swearing when I taught about them this semester, because the book does call excavates a clade (although admits they are under debate). I mean really, diplomonads and euglenozoans? Ha.
Speaking of a kilopoop, gizmodo is currently featuring pictures from a dissection of an elephant. Wow, are those intestines large.
Oh, and as a guy who thinks toads are vastly more charming and ‘likeable’ than frogs, I agree on moths being more beautiful than butterflies in many ways, though that’s not to denigrate the butterfly.
Stupid Fuckin’ People-Bellrays
Highway To Hell-BellRays
Black Lightning-BellRays
Carlie,
Thanks! The article wasn’t terribly clear on that point. And when I think of pipette, I think of the ones you can order from American Science & Surplus. ;)
Waitaminit
If you can be a Professional Gay, can you quit and pick a new orientation?
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/728876707/it-gets-better-the-musical-theater-project
Gay Men’s Chorus of Los Angeles is wanting to do an ‘It Gets Better’ Musical Theater project.
Felt like this might be a worthy cause for us to look at, only 3 days left to fund.
slignot
If I invite you for my birthday, will you come and make me a cake?
They look gorgeous!
+++++
Duh, satin’s a fabric!
:)
If it is, the native language is not roman or germanic.
:)
Speaking of megapoop, check out the tv series Inside Nature’s Giants. They even dissected a 60 ton fin whale.
Inside Natures Giants – The Whale
An old Onion article that just now came to my attention: Al-Qaeda Claims U.S. Mass Transportation Infrastructure Must Drastically Improve Before Any Terrorist Attacks
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slignot, hurray for pay raises!
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sayamika, that is one serious sack of suck you describe @109. Sympathies and *strong drink of choice*
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Katherine, I’m a sucker for Luna moths, but the Emperor is pretty, too.
I sometimes think about getting a little symbol of chaos tattoo just at the hollow spot where the collar bones approach the breast bone, but so far I’ve always chickened out. Pain wimp, ya know.
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@Gileill, if we could figure out the problem of airfare, I’d happily make a cake. I’m not going to do anything super crazy this time*, just a two layer round chocolate cake with ganache coating, radial application of some German chocolate icing**, and probably some pretty chocolate fans on top because they’re fun.
*Seriously, piping buttercream is something I do and then ask myself what the fuck I was thinking. After the damned Cake-o-saurus construction, my hands hurt all day. Last year’s experiment with marshmallow fondant wasn’t bad, but I was a bit stressed getting it to work the way I wanted it to.
**Is what we call “German chocolate” actually based on anything German or is it like Americanized Chinese/Mexican dishes?
Somebody That I Used To Know — Walk off the Earth (Gotye – Cover)
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One thing about the butterfly/moth distinction that I think may be pertinent to their use as a symbol for transformation: the only time butterflies really have their wings flat the way they are depicted in tattoos is either when flying (in which case the tattoos look way too static) or they are dead. Moths land with their wings outstretched, displaying them much more clearly.
I find that more appealing.
Also, moths are beautiful.
I still want the archetypal archaeopteryx fossil tattoo, but I may be all tattooed out at this point. I dunno. So far, once I’ve gotten one in my head, it’s only a matter of time until I go through with it.
Maybe then I’ll be done. But who knows. I mean, that one was in line ahead of the one I got on my foot, which just came to me all at once and Had To Be Done™, so maybe more bolts of lightning will hit me.
I fell in love with Luna moths after reading a book called Luna in the 5th grade. I connected a lot with the main character, who was depressed and didn’t like “girly things”. Her brother was a transsexual that was in the closet due to having asshole parents. The brother changed his name to Luna, since at night was the only time he could express his true self. At the end, he left for another state, where he could live as a woman for a year and jump through a bunch of hoops to get the surgery done. I thought making him do that was fucked up. It was the first time I had even heard of transsexuals, growing up in an all white, rural, religious small town. If the parents knew it was there, they would be up in arms. I found other books that helped me too, like “Cut” etc.
Our librarian was awesome. When parents wanted to take out Harry Potter from the library she said no and stood her ground. Heard all about it, it was a fight. She explained to us kids that she wouldn’t censor us and that this “witchcraft” bullshit, was bullshit. Just not in those words. She told us a story how, she had an opportunity to stand with her fellow students during the 60s over a book being racist & inaccurate. She didn’t walk out with them and always regretted it. So there are times to stand up and fight, like she was now against the religious parents. She said, its not the same thing, but its similar enough I trust you kids to be smart enough to figure it out.
Man, was she awesome. I’m going to look up the school info and see if I can send an email to them to get to her.
Sorry, TL;DR and tangent, that just sparked a memory that got me all caught up and weepy.
Question: does anyone here know why it would be necessary to heat a baby’s formula bottle the same way one does a breastmilk bottle?
Because it kinda seems to me that just heating the water itself and mixing is sufficient.
But Baby’s parents heat water in a container, pour distilled water into the bottle, scoop in the formula, then sit the bottle in the heated water to warm. It takes almost 5 minutes.
I know they are both a bit fearful of Teh Toxins™, but I honestly cannot fathom why that is a better approach than heating the distilled water in a glass (no BPA!!!11!) and mixing from there.
JAL:
I expect she would love to hear from you.
@gilliel
Is this what you found in the fridge?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_97M0tV94CM
^_^
OK, I’m at a real computer.
Slignot, congrats on the good news, but I’m sorry about all of the suck :-/
Giliell, not exactly sure what to say in response to 156, but I’m glad you’re working your way through it. It sounds like you’re making a lot of progress.
Louis, it’s ok to like being wrong as long as you like correcting yourself into being right ;-)
And now Baby is fussing. Must run off. Fun while it lasted.
If that is what is in your fridge, just make sure that Edward is around.
Ibyea, somehow, I knew what you linked to.
@Jules:
Yea – that’s one reason to do a moth rather than a butterfly. I also like the symbolism of the moon being a feminine symbol and the moth being a nocturnal creature. To me a moth is a lot more gentle and soft where a butterfly, I dunno, just seems masculine in a way.
Yes, I just said butterflies are manly.
J_A_L, now you come to mention it there were some parents at my Spawn’s Primary School (ages 3 to 11) who wanted the HP books banned in school. There was never any question of the school pandering to their nonsense, though, afaik (even though it was a CoE school (due to lack of any better options at the time)). Sometimes you really wonder what planet these people are on.
… and I forgot that I mainly wanted to say yay for your awesome librarian for standing up to the BS.
Kat, I just looked at a pic. So beautiful.
A friend of mine wrote this piece on speaking in tongues if anyone here is interested in reading from a former fundie what it was like.
I was actually there for most of what they* talk about, seeing as we moved in the same circles even in those days.
*for Sili
SO SAYS THE MONAAAAAAAAAAARCH!
Jules, #248,
Oh I do, I do! I love getting righter!
Louis
You know, speaking of THE MONARCH, here is something that has driven me crazy for ages. The Ragnar logo is this stylized butterfly that all I can see when I look at it is The Monarch. It’s all over car windows here and I always feel this vague twinge of disappointment that they’re promoting running rather than the Venture Brothers.
Jacket-Shallow Gravy
I think the organism is supposed to a new kind of eukaryote. I often find sloppy articles at physorg and this other site (they have the exact same articles).
Don’t leave things in your fridge: Apart from the Alien reference, the part about slowly drifting in microgravity to a romantic piece of classical music probably originated, not with 2001, but with “Solaris” (the Tarkovsky version).
The paricular scene is on Youtube, but I am too lazy to find it.
Good night, everyone.
Any new non-bacteria is a new kind of eukaryote. I think they meant a new branch for Protozoa…which again, isn’t that unusual.
Physicists discover new Ξ baryon:
http://www.alphagalileo.org/ViewItem.aspx?ItemId=119707&CultureCode=en
Its composition is usb. I think it’s what internet-transmitted cakes and alchoholic drinks are made of.
There isn’t any real difference except where it counts (for them); in their minds. Or the infamous “we’ve always done it that way”.
@cm
It’s pretty cool that there are still baryons to be discovered. I thought they have found them all. Obviously I was wrong.
I found the Solaris “levitation” clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXj9dOF_vb4 “One of the greatest moments in cinema”
More Tarkovsky: Inside the Zone (from Stalker) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPUyR3aFMJQ&feature=related
So my ‘Evil Little Thing’ shirt got here today.
I generally don’t wear a lot of stuff with slogans of any kind. And apart from a shirt worn specifically at a protest in support of the atheist bus signs in Ottawa, I haven’t ever actually worn anything ever that says definitively ‘atheist’…
Granted, this doesn’t either, except to those following this issue. Still, wearing this thing (which I’ve made up my mind I will be doing… tho’ probably not excessively around certain of my Muslim in-laws) is going to be something of a step…
I’m out to all my friends, and my family, have been for years, have long been theoretically publicly so, even (apart from said agreed upon low-profile-keeping with certain older in-laws). But I’ve never walked into a bar quite so labelled, before. It was Ms. Ahlquist’s story got me thinking: yeah, okay, I’m one of those who can do this. Anyone asks, damn straight I will be happy to explain just where those words come from.
The Vatican’s representative in Britain is calling for an alliance with Muslims and Jews to combat the scourge to civilization the is homosexuality.
If only we were nice to these people, they could be reasoned with.
I had to get a baryon enema once.
Once.
Another advantage moths have is that they’re adorably fuzzy. Take that, butterflies!
Kat, be prepared for a very good tattoo to be more expensive than you might expect — a lot more expensive. You really seriously do not want to shop for price in any way. That said, if it’s worth it to you, go for it! Make sure you see healed tattoos, at least a year old, in the artist’s portfolio.
@Just_A_Lurker:
I wouldn’t call it subtle. But how much was it for parents, or for ‘bronies’, or the artists amusing themselves? Why not all three?
I picked the Derpy example because she unambiguously started out as /co/ fanon. I’d also buy “chocolate rain” as intended for the fringe demographic (though they clearly had fun with that themselves — they tried so hard to avoid using that exact phrase as long as they could). And I guess there’s also the ads mentioning bronies. So more than I could drunkenly think of off the top of my head last night.
(Ooh, another I forgot about: Leeroy Jenkins in Sonic Rainboom. Subtle, but there.)
Almost any children’s entertainment that isn’t complete crap is going to have to have something for the grown-ups. And from what I’ve seen, Faust is definitely not in the business of making crap.
I guess I can go a little overboard on the “we are not the target demographic, and that’s okay” bit sometimes. Too many flame wars over things like people assuming
The Trouble With TribblesSwarm of the Century was “for bronies” (sorry, guys, that was written before you were a major audience), or saying Lyra & BonBon in Winter Wrap-up was some kind of acknowledgement of fanon (that’s where that particular trotting joke started).Fucking irony, how does that work?
Admittedly, a lot of shows (and plenty other things) intended for little girls are crap. Because of the assumption that girls don’t deserve quality, and little kids don’t deserve quality, so little girls really don’t deserve quality. Just slap some pink and glitter on it, the makers figure. But the assumption that this is necessarily true, not the result of misogyny on the part of producers, makes me want to scream.
@Ms. Daisy Cutter, Gynofascist in a Spiffy Hugo Boss Uniform:
(have I mentioned how awesome your name is?)
[citation needed]
The word is new, rapidly evolving, and means different things to different people. IMO, prescriptivism is a total non-starter with it. Maybe I’m just an insufferable hipster, but to me it’s an ironic statement about the “bro” demographic enjoying something society says we shouldn’t. (As an aside, I mistook the entire fandom as inherently ironic and not legitimate, earnest enjoyment of the show. Then I watched an ep. to get in on the joke. Whoops.)
That said, I’ve seen exactly the use you describe, which is part of why I’m ambivalent about it. That, and the very forceful insistence that “‘brony’ is gender-neutral”, so shut up and deal (you can almost feel them resisting the urge to add “dumb bitch”). It’s right there in the name, fellas, and even I think it’s going too far to make an ironic statement about adult female fans of the show by referring to them with the ironic term applied to adult male fans of the show when the show was, ironically, intended primarily for young girls.
There’s really no way to know how someone else intends it except by context. So my use of it is really context-dependent. It can be convenient shorthand for “childless adult demographic” or just general silliness, but I also understand that it can be off-putting and that the lack of disambiguation between “childless adult demographic” and “childless adult male demographic” is problematic.
@Brother Ogvorbis: Advanced Accolyte of Tpyos
Once. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwkydlkgzlo
AJ:
Cool. Wear it in happiness. We’ve worn ours out and about a bunch of times already. The only comment I’ve gotten so far was from a cashier at Lowe’s, who said “I’m sure you’re not evil!” I just grinned and said “I have my days”. I added that the shirt was in support of Jessica Ahlquist, who the cashier had never heard of (no surprise), so I wrote her name down and told her to have a look on the ‘net. :D
localnebula:
No youtube access where I am. Is that a Johnny Dangerously clip?
You know, it seems to me that the Powerpuff Girls had lots of adult male fans, and they didn’t make nearly as big a fucking deal out of it.
@Brother Ogvorbis: Advanced Accolyte of Tpyos
Yes. Yes it is.
Glad someone gets my piss poor humour.
You should be worried that you got it. That is not a good sign.
@Rey Fox
Yeah, weird.
Cop Shoots Dog: Untrained Officers Commit ‘Puppycide’ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/27/cop-shoots-dog-puppycide_n_1446841.html
(Warning. Rage trigger)
Hee hee. Just saw an eBay listing for a piece of Kuchi jewelry that the seller says may have “genuine desert dirt” on it.
AJ:
I am always tempted to buy shirts with and actual message, but then I end up impulse buying shirts like this and everything goes downhill from there.
Audley:
I finally stopped waffling on that score a bit over a year ago. Atheist sightings are few and far in between here, so I get a bit of extra enjoyment wearing atheist Tees and Pharyngubuttons. :D
birgerjohanssen: that is honest-to-maude my biggest fear, owning a big black dog as I do. I’ve pretty much always known that realistically, the only person likely to actually try to kill my dog is a stupid panicky cop.
Dood (specifically with o’s) was redeemed by Prinnies for me, but otherwise yes.
YOU WILL FEEL THE STING OF THE MONARCH!
There was still the buffalo episode, and the Zecora episode but otherwise yes. I might have watched it on that alone, but my girlfriend recommended it.
The Big Lebowski is probably just parents in general. There’s always stuff that makes it in for them, like when Twilight Sparkle got on a soap box before making a speech in one episode. Derpy and Chocolate rain, yes, small things for the bronies, but not everything meant for adults is meant for bronies either (See what I mean? Though this is very minor compared to stealing the show itself). I hesitate to say this, but I imagine Leeroy is as well (WoW is kind of huge, nerds have kids as well)
There was TVTropes when it was new, the youtube videos + comments made shortly after its release, off the top of my head.
Kristinc:
Back when Cante Mahto was alive (my big black dog), Bismarck cops used to ask where I got him. He was unusual, he used to stare at people until the person broke their gaze and looked away. Every cop who ever saw him wanted him.
When it comes to a stupid cop shooting one of my dogs, it’s Jayne I worry about the most on that score (and he’s white). He’s just monstrous huge and has one of those barks that makes the hair on the back of your neck and arms stand up. He scares the crap out of everyone.
Audley – ooo, it was awesome! Loved the forensic botanist: “See here, the vascular cylinder’s been completely destroyed.”
I read about them in Barbara Kingsolver’s Prodigal Summer. :)
(and if anybody hasn’t read The Poisonwood Bible, go do it now. It was a big stepping point for me in the finalization of my atheism.)
The main reason to heat formula that way is to avoid getting any secret superheated spots in the middle. That’s more a problem when you heat in the microwave, though, so the directions are always if you’re heating with a microwave, to heat water separately and then put the formula bottle in that hot water to get warm. If it’s being heated over a stovetop, then it should work equally well to heat the formula directly instead of the water.
An important poll…
“Are you looking forward to the new series of Red Dwarf?”
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-04-27/are-you-looking-forward-to-the-new-red-dwarf
I think “Ow! Yeah-yeah!” is the preferred option.
Carlie,
I know, right? They pegged Law & Order perfectly.
Is Starburns actually dead? I need to know!!
Luna moths are silkworm moths, in case anyone’s interested. The domestic ones have lost their ability to fly, but the wild ones are fantastically beautiful. I’m partial to sweetheart underwings myself. Drab forewings, bright red hindwings that flash out dramatically. That would be my tattoo of choice.
His name was Alex!!!
I think so – I’ve read since yesterday that he’s been pretty vocal about being tired of being on the show and wanted to go back to just writing it.
localnebula:
Well, thanks.
I understand your argument about context and the evolution of language; OTOH, intent’s not magic.
YOUR TESTICLES… AND YOU!!
Welcome, btw.
Birger, sadly (and as I see the HuffPo article notes), that’s not the first such incident in the U.S.
Assorted scientist Pharyngulites and those interested the the scientific study of trolls: I have proposed a classification system based partially upon the work of Ogvorbis on TZT. Input is appreciated!
I’ve never understood why ‘professional’ or ‘elite’ is supposed to be an insult.
It’s almost like they resent education, oh, wait …
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Love Is The Drug – Roxy Music
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My state just tried to scam me out of my Uni retirement fund. They sent me a notice saying it would revert back to the state in 30 days if I didn’t transfer it to another account.
I emailed my Uni’s adviser and she wrote back that a lot of people had gotten that notice, and it was wrong.
She then called me and said ‘I can’t tell you what to do, but if you xfer it out they still have to pay into it but they don’t get the interest.’
Yay!
Fuckers. Stupid fuckers. But what else do you expect when Bush’s ex-budget adviser is in charge.
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I’m trying to either nap or stay awake long enough to go out and see my friends perform “Dark Side of the Moon” and other PF classics tonight.
It’s in a club, but the sound system and engineer are quite good, and there will be an excellent light show with a good LD.
I’ve seen them before, and since I worked on the Momentary Lapse Of Reason tour with PF, I think I can say it’s gonna be a good time.
If I can stay awake. It’s been a tough week here in Lake Woebegon.
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Now Ima gonna go back a ketchup from 225.
For me?
Thank youuuuuu!
@Rey Fox
I think there are a few reasons for this. One is that, c’mon, it’s My Little Pony. My. Little. Pony. It was an existing franchise culturally understood to be extremely girly froo-froo crap. (Nevermind that I’ve gone back and watched some G1, and, while not my thing, it’s really no worse than 80s G.I. Joe.) It was a stand-in for everything girly and icky and cutsie and even *gasp* gay. A punchline to a joke. The aesthetic is also very bright and cheerful and — horror — full of pastels and hearts and rainbows. More critically-minded viewers could also have been off-put by the unwatchable G3 incarnation, though I assume “critically-minded viewers” are a rounding error in the scheme of things.
PowerPuff Girls, on the other hand, was starting fresh. There was no pre-existing stigma to it, so when a lot of guys liked the show, that helped define its culturally assumed “normal” audience. There was no need to overcome a couple decades of cultural definition and social stigma. The aesthetic was also less stereotypically girly and almost gritty in some ways. But mostly it was an early-adopters effect.
Assuming “they” is fans, for many there was also cognitive whiplash upon first watching. Many of us watched assuming it would be terrible. I thought the whole thing was one big joke I wasn’t in on. And then we watch an episode. We laugh, and smile, and generally enjoy it. And there’s something of a “holy shit, I love this show” reaction because it so defies expectations. It can be a very meaningful experience (no exaggeration) because it forces us to confront some of our own sexist assumptions and to be more open-minded. On the healthy end of the spectrum, this can lead to a desire to defy the stigma and proudly own our enjoyment as a way of eroding those cultural norms. Oh the less healthy end, you get obnoxious asshats shoving it in everyone’s faces and using it for petty attention-seeking.
@ruteekatreya:
My point (which, admittedly, I kind of botched) was that the fandom is heterogenous, and various terms (like “brony”), conventions, and running jokes mean different things to different people. It’s also still new enough that there really isn’t much in the way of universally-accepted understandings of these. At its most benign, this results in people talking past each other. It’s less nice when people insist that their use of these things is the correct one and refuse to respect others. If someone doesn’t like the word “brony”, I can respect that and try to not be a dick about it. Same if they identify as a brony. Or a pegasis. I always thought being kind and respectful to others was one of the major themes of the show, but I’ve seen enough of the fandom to know that, alas, not everyone seems to get that message out of it.
(I realize that could be interpreted as passive-aggressive bullshit directed at you. It isn’t. It’s directed at the YouTube commenters et al. I’m just a shitty writer and can’t figure out how to re-word it.)
No debauchery for me this weekend. Needs my wits about me while I Pull apart the suspension on my car to see which bits are worn. Then add those prts to the wish list along with the clutch, air condition, boot lid hinge. At least the brakes are done. Why do they have to design all parts of a car to fall apart at the same time?
On girls in short skirts. I wish I had a dollar for every time I’d told Girl ™ to put something warmer on, or risk no sympathy when cold.
I’ve seen the reverse, where infants are in push chair with no sun protection, whilst parents have sunnies & hats. Ugh!
Jules:
I know what you mean! I’ve completely given up even reading on phone. It’s just too frustrating. I’ve taken to having 2 tabs devoted to the thread on the tablet. One to read and one to comment as I go.
Rorschach. The forbidden city is awesome. Not forbidden any more! But allow a whole day to explore it. I only had 3 hours & it wasn’t enough.
@Ms. Daisy Cutter, Gynofascist in a Spiffy Hugo Boss Uniform
I am so stealing that phrase the next time someone tries to hide behind intent to avoid showing others basic respect. Unintentional offence is bound to occur when people have different understandings of the same word; what separates decent people from jackasses is the ability to recognize that maybe if they don’t like it you should stop doing it (unless you intend to disrespect them).
Here is, if I’m not mistaken, the original source, which is very much worth a read.
Giliell, have you seen the latest Urban Threads newsletter? They have a bunch of adorable kid designs, including the cutest penguin ever.
Horde, I haz a sad.
I bought apple-and-herb sausage at the store. I got home, decided to fry it up. It is delicious.
And I’m out of ketchup and there is still quite a bit of sausage left on my plate.
Put it under your USB, red thixotropic liquid headed your way from the Saloon.
Carlie,
Are you saying he killed himself off?
Ha!
Hee hee.
I hear ya. Apart from the ‘evil little thing’, the only t-shirts I’ve acquired at all recently with any kind of art or lettering on ’em are this one and this one.
@Cassandra Caligaria (Cipher), OM
That is an awesome rant. And depressingly on-topic. One of the more frustrating regularities I’ve noticed in parts of the pony internet I’ve frequented is asshats who are all “oh, gays, lesbians, bisexuals, sure, they’re okay, but to hell with those trans freaks, only I get to define their gender.” The irony of spouting their bigotry in such a context is apparently lost on them. (Double irony if the bigot is into clop.)
AJ,
Cute! I have “what we need more of is science” on a ringer tee, but I can’t seem to find it foe sale any more. :(
I am wearing a Spruce Goose t-shirt from the museum where Howard Hughes’ giant flying wooden boat is kept.
I is awesome.
@Dr. Audley Z. Darkheart, purveyor of candy and lies
What we need more of is science
Localnebula,
Can’t watch it on my tablet. *shakes fist!*
What good is science if no one gets hurt?
WANNABES! All of you, spitpolishing your prosthetic limbs, und whitewashing your liverspots for this wretched back-patting, smarty-party! The true mad scientist does not make public appearances! He does not wear the ‘hello my name is” badge. He STRIKES from below like a viper! Or on high like a PENNY, dropped from the tallest building aroundt! He has only ze one purpose: do bad things, to good people, MIT SCIENCE!!!!
You’re not mad scientists, you’re a bunch of hippies!
I came home from work and Wife told me she had gotten me a surprise. I went upstairs to change and discovered she had found DINOSAUR SHEETS! They have Tyrannosaurids (both animal and skull), tridactyl foot prints, Stegasaurids, Diplodocoids, and Ceratopsians. I never had Dinosaur sheets when I was a kid. Wheeeeeee!
@Janine: History’s Greatest Monster
I take it you won’t be attending, then?
Aw fuck, I’m spontaneously blistering again. I just love biopsies.
I decided that I was feeling to cheerful after eating that amazing sausage, so now I’m reading about the Thirty Year’s War.
Jebus. The horor that people are capable of perpetrating.
Awesome surprise, Oggie! Sweet dreams tonight. :)
What a difference a headline makes:
The first one is from the NYT. The old gray mare ain’t just what she used to be.
I blame Obama. [/snark]
Esteleth, there is a reason why Germans were the second largest nationality in the American colonies at the time of the revolution.
I’m super jealous, Oggie!
O T
After that GAC speech…
when someone sneezes, I now say “Science bless you.”
With vigor.
spondee
ps- Yes, replacing the word “god” with “science” plays into ‘their’ “faith in science” bs, but hopefully ‘they’ will realize ‘their’ heart doesn’t stop when ‘they’ sneeze.
And to go with my new dinosaur sheets, I also received my used (and very cheap) copy of Mesozoic Vertebrate Life from 2001. I can lie in my dino sheets and read my dino books while snuggling with a stuffed goat.
Caine, well that sucks. I wish I could help.
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Oggie, sweet dreams of dinosaurs and the Big Rock Candy Mountain are coming your way.
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In other news, Zimmerman and his lawyers are still being lying assholes.
It’s a good thing they have money.
e.g.
Christ, what an asshole.
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I’m glad that the pain in my foot is controllable with NSAIDs. However, my GI tract is paying the price. I am limiting myself to 4 Advil per day, and still I needed to take an Imodium a few minutes ago.
I think NSAID’s are a bit idiopathic. I find ibuprofen makes me dizzy, whereas naproxin doesn’t. I lived on naproxin when I had the shingles.
This is why I avoid opioids whenever possible. (I know NSAIDs aren’t poppy products, I was making a different point.)
I prefer the pain of tooth pulling & thrombectomies to a pain in the ass. It’s cruel that the thrombectomy was due to a pain in my ass.
ibyea:
Two down, one to go, apparently. Nobel for the finders!
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Jules:
Eh, kidz’ bottles: boiled water, allowed to cool (a bit), sterilised bottles, put in fridge, microwave to order, formula in, stir, shake: done. /gordonramsay
They’ve all turned out to be complete maniacs, though.
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Janine:
No, I will not skip to 1:10. I will not miss the hairy cornflake, nor his silly headgear. I will not miss the strange juxstapositions of Whitesnake and Kate Bush, The Nolans and Motorhead, nor David Essex and The Undertones.
I will relive my childhood. I will marvel at the Quantel.
(And I will agree that Difford and Tilbrook rock.)
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Just_A_Lurker:
Ah, the Indiana Jones episode.
Oh no! I’ve said too much!
*runs and hides*
(It’s actually the only one I’ve seen.)
@The Sailor
It’s the NYT, what do you expect?
I think my “favorite” NYT epic fail of corporate propaganda of late was their alleged reporting on the whole Citibank online banking incident. They reported it as a hyper-sophisticated act of “cyberterrorism” and “hacking”, of course never going into details of how the 200k+ accounts were breached. Why? Probably in part because their tech reporters couldn’t tell the difference between a computer and a monitor, and because it really went down like this:
https://proxy.freethought.online/pharyngula/2012/04/26/episode-cccxxi-choke-on-it-breivik/comment-page-1/#comment-321667With that in your browser bar, edit the 321667 to 321664 (or whatever) and press enter. There, you’ve now committed a sophisticated act of hacking against Pharyngula. All the “hacking” involved was going to the address bar after logging in, changing your account number to someone else’s, and pressing enter to get to their account. (Strictly speaking, it involved HTTP GET, but the semantics are the same.)
That’s when I decided to stop paying any attention to the NYT (except Kthug). Not only are they hacks, they’re really, really dumb and think you are too.
[/rant]
@Esteleth
Ah yes, the war that killed 1/3 of all Germans. In the end, it was all because of some stupid succession problem in Bohemia. Basically, what kind of imaginary friend does the successor believe in?
In case anyone’s interested, going back to the earlier book talk, I can’t recommend The Tell-Tale Brain by V.S. Ramachandran enough. Absolutely fascinating.
Cm, I had no idea what that countdown was but I was highly amused by that list. And what does it say about me that I like both Kate Bush and Lemmy Kilmister?
Lately I’ve been mixing Jameson with lemonade (preferably sparkling) and rosewater and it’s delicious. I’m calling it an Irish Rose. (I’m aware that there’s a “wild Irish rose” cocktail with whisk(e)y, lemonade and pomegranate syrup but I sniff snootily in the face of such imitation; a rose cocktail should contain rose).
localnebula, Yeah, I get you IRT the NYT. They completely lost me at Judith Miller.
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Well, the nap didn’t work, so I’m up for the duration of stepping out (in as much style as someone my age can ‘step out’).
I’ve done my hair, I’ve trimmed my beard, and I’m going black on black (black shoes, black jeans, black silk shirt, black with a very tiny vertical colorful thread sports coat), and I will see a really good band tonight.
I’m feeling like shit, but I’m looking good, and gosh darnit, people like me.
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Oggie, I forgot to say, I liked your asshole fingering joke. And I enjoyed the music discussion that followed.
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Louis of Orange (of Cheesy Poofs), good luck. ‘Tis, same.
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And now I’m off to an evening of listening to people my age playing music of our age in a crowd of 20 somethings. and some people my age.
Greetings Horde.
I’ve been lurking for a few days now. I wanted to say hi. That way, in the event I have something to contribute, I’ll have the introduction out of the way. I’m not sure what to put here, but here’s what I’ve got so far.
I used to write a lot. Currently, I’m not sure I have anything to say. So, I work, while the words stagnate inside me. I’m not sure it’s better than saying the wrong thing, but it seems to be.
I’ve been an atheist for over a decade, which is about how long it’s been since I left seminary (or the protestant equivalent, to be precise). Given my “education,” I’m not sure how much I’ll have to contribute, especially in the beginning. Mostly, I’m here to learn and grow and hopefully make some friends along the way.
I got involved with the local atheist group a while back. Fast forward through two exasperating years of pedantry and infighting. I left them shortly after elevatorgate. It was one of two times I ever saw them in agreement. The other time was another run-in with feminism. Guess which side they were on.
I know a couple of regulars in meatspace, and they encouraged me to find you. I think they were right about you. I hope they were about me.
So, here I am. I hear you fight the patriarchy, among other things. Where do I sign up?
I’m at my parents’ place. It’s my mother’s 60th birthday and it was my niece’s 1st.
we have been drinking margaritas and mojitos since 2 pm. We had hot dogs and hamburgers for lunch and cake for dinner.
Just now we were getting ready to play scrabble and mom said to my sister, “Would you go downstairs and get another chair?”
We all looked at her and said in unison, “Why?”
Normally there are 4 chairs in the kitchen. But we have 5 right now.
There was lots of giggling.
/threadrupt.
@Woden:
As far as I’m concerned, you just did.
While we’re mostly just vocal, I’d like to think that a bit of disposable income aimed in particular directions can cause some real change.
Welcome to the Horde (TM).
J_A_L:
Funny… ’round here, at least, I tend to do the opposite: Absent a conspicuously masculine nym or conspicuously (not to say egregiously) masculine content within postings, I tend to assume everyone is a woman, unless/until they say otherwise.
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Esteleth:
“Delicious”? Doesn’t sound like a sad to me.
“[Q]uite a bit of [delicious] sausage left on my plate” doesn’t sound like a sad, either, and “out of ketchup” sounds like a stroke of luck! Ketchup is marginally acceptable on french fries, but is otherwise the Goop of the Devil™; certainly it doesn’t belong anywhere near sausage!
Instead of a sad, you should haz a rejoice that there’s still some sausage left now that the demon ketchup is gone! (You might look around for some mustard, though….)
;^)
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Is anyone else watching the final season of House, MD? Does it seem to you that things are getting progressively weirder, even by House standards? I have this terrible sinking feeling that in the final episode, House is going to wake up in bed with the rotting corpse of Suzanne Pleshette!
Woden, for some odd reason, I think you will be able to contribute just fine, even if you are just drawing from your background.
Hi, woden! Welcome to TET!
The Friday night special includes a *beverage of your choice* and a *box of Girl Guide cookies*. (I’ll arm-wrestle you for the vanilla ones.)
We have an eclectic assortment of commenters here, and I’m sure you’ll fit right in. You probably have more to contribute than you realize – I can think of at least one recent thread where someone with your background probably would have had interesting things to say.
Hey guys, IT SNOWED TODAY. Blech.
Hello, woden! Pull up a chair and have a snack.
You already have. Here’s your 10 e-duct chit for drinks/bacon at the Pharyngula Saloon and Spanking Parlor™, Patricia, Princess of Pullets, Proprietor. First drink is always on the house, but only grog and swill is served. But there are many varieties of swill, some of which look suspiciously like normal drinks in dirty glasses. The trebuchet launch of aged grog is scheduled for ten o’clock, so stick around for the fire works.
@kristinc, ~bitter and resigned~
Wild Irish rose cocktail? Sounds tasty, but I can’t approve of the name. There is only one true Wild Irish Rose.
I highly recommend it, if, you know, you’re into that kind of thing. Much smoother, and a more fun drunk, than Thunderbird or Night Train. Just make sure you chill it first or it’s like vodka and grenadine.
Bill Dauphin:
I just finished catching up on this season a few days ago. To me, it doesn’t seem to be too much weirder than usual. Then again, I’ve made it through four seasons of True Blood (guilty pleasure), so I have a pretty high tolerance for weird.
You already have. Welcome to Pharyngula, Woden! There’s no topic here in the lounge, grab a drink and chat about anything you like. This is a good place to get to know folks.
Don’t be afraid to dive into front page threads, sounds to me like you have a lot to contribute and it’s fair to say that we *all* learn here, every day. It’s one of the great things about Pharyngula.
Current chewtoys are Dano the godbot in this thread and the ever dense rajkumar in TZT (The Zombie Thread.)
Chewtoys are how we keep our fangs sniny and our coats glossy.
Carlie:
Oh, April. I wish it would snow here – it’s raining and the ceiling in my studio is leaking. Not happy.
Also, in case it’s needed for any of the new folk, the handy dandy Pharyngula Standards & Practices.
Hello Woden!
I just pulled my second batch of muffins out– there’s cherry/pecan and cinnamon/sour cream*, still warm from the oven. Have one!
And don’t worry about fitting in at all. We’re a diverse (weird) bunch, but if your gonna fight the patriarchy, I think we’ll get alone just fine. :)
Carlie,
Snow? Blech. We just had whoa wind and some drizzle.
*Way more delicious than they sound.
Just wanted to say, I love Imperial Stout. Enjoying a bottle of Samuel Smith’s right now. It is sweeter then Old Rasputin but still plenty dark and rich.
That is all.
@localnebula: “This is not a wine for drinking. This is a wine for laying down and avoiding.”
PZ really needs to quarantine dano to TZT. He and raj can have a chat about god and uppity masculine wimmins.
I gotta say, the depth of misogyny pouring out of raj is seriously disgusting. To say the least.
@Woden
Welcome. Welcome to Pharyngula. You have chosen, or been chosen, to relocate to one of the finest rational and anti-sexist websites. I thought so much of Pharyngula that I elected to establish an online presence here (er, yesterday), in the Thread so thoughtfully provided by our benevolent overlord. I am proud to call Pharyngula
my homesome place I post to when drunk. And so, whether you are here to stay, or passing through on your way to parts unknown — welcome to Pharyngula. It’s a little weird here.@leighshryock
Hmm?
@kristinc, ~bitter and resigned~
Only if you really want to keep your brain (and liver and kidney and…) cells alive for some reason.
I have a large plastic bowl on the floor to catch the leak. Naturally, Chas & Esme are fascinated. They’re also soaking wet.
Caine, I hope you heal quickly. If you mentioned what the biopsy was for, I missed it. When will you have the results?
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ I wish I could see them.
Woden, welcome!
Also, whoever posted the kink to the carrot cake pancakes, thank you! I’m making them tomorrow for bunch.
Om nom nom.
YO YO WODEN!
I met Woden at the Reason Rally.
:)
I just tied for winning at scrabble.
We discovered that “awn” is a word–it’s a pointy part of a bract, which is a small leaf at the base of a flower on a plant.
Now THIS sounds interesting.
We crossword puzzle aficionados make great use of that word.
Or link, rather. Hee hee hee another sacrifice to the Almighty Tpyos!
Hekuni Cat:
No, haven’t had them yet. Some years ago, I had a bout of spontaneous blistering. Damn things left scars. Had about a zillion biopsies, never got a solid result. “Just one of those things!” If it ever happens again (which it has, tonight), I’m supposed to go in and do all that once more. Bleargh.
Sally,
A delicious kink!
I think that’s my cue to go to bed. Goodnight everyone!
Caine, where is dano? My fangs are nice and sniny after all that yummy sausage.
Esteleth:
Right here: https://proxy.freethought.online/pharyngula/2012/04/26/virtual-warfare-on-salon/
He invaded the thread fairly quickly and has just made another reappearance.
Wow. I’m reading that thread and TZT, and I seem to be constantly muttering “herp derp” under my breath.
Yeah, it’s pretty rough going. Apparently I’m confused about my gender.
Apparently, Sally. I do have a question: why is A.R. speaking Afrikaans? Is there a joke I’m missing.
Esteleth:
Yeah, it’s a freak show. Apparently, if you call someone an ‘AZZ’, it’s okay in the eyes of the lawd.
I hate that. I have a standing order for vaginal ultrasound that I’m supposed to have if I have extremely bad cramps* again, which aren’t supposed to be happening at all five years after an endometrial ablation.
*Feels just like the unfortunately old, familiar business without the blood.
Oh, the Akrikaans? Something about wanting to communicate in front of the trolls without communicating with them. I dunno.
@SallyStrange
Wait, woden was in reason rally? Man, I should have gone out of my way to talk to everyone. Heck, I didn’t know Walton was there until Mattir told me.
This is incorrect. It’s a lot weird here. :-þ
Now scifi is back on TZT. Yeesh.
Hekuni Cat:
Yikes. Not good.
Yah man! But I didn’t get to talk to him much until afterwards. I’ll leave it to him to reveal more details if he wants.
If a yokelcop shoots Jayne, I shall cause an International Incident.
Chigau:
Right along with me.
I’m sorry, but after only getting to comment #123 on the virtual warfare thread, I am frced to conclued tat i am not durnk enuough to handle it.
and ic an barely tyle!
Rubin’s up, so I scattered some Scooby Doo graham crackers on the desk for him. He is so thrilled when he gets to thieve, he rarely gets to stuff before Esme. He’s a happy boy.
Caine [from the Virtual warfare on Salon! thread]:
Excellent. I can’t wait.
Rubin’s happiness is contagious. I’m a lot happier right now than I was a few minutes ago, and my neck doesn’t hurt as much.
Spooky. :D
Hekuni Cat:
Me neither. I’m so happy it’s back.
Hekuni Cat:
Hahahaha. Spooky is the best word to describe Rubin, too. :D
Agreed! *swigs rum*
Greta has more on the great feminist debate about sex work:
https://proxy.freethought.online/greta/2012/04/26/guest-post-from-sarah-van-brussel/
Apologies if it’s been posted already. It’s really good. Guest post, actually.
Good night, Caine, Sally, Esteleth, and anyone else still out there.
Take care.
Welcome in, woden! I like you already!
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Aw jeez, Caine. Random blistering sounds freaking awful. But yay Rubin! And yay Jayne!
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I want everybody to know that I do not CARE about hip bumps. Not one bit. *folds arms and looks very indifferent indeed*
Nor do I care about Plautus, apparently, since I’ve been sitting here for four hours and haven’t done a single word of translation.
CC(C), OM
Shit, oh dear!
Haven’t you heard of googletranslate?
It’s so good that I managed to use “trade” (exchange) as “trade” (what you do for a living).
That’s too not far wrong, is it?
CC:
It’s annoying. It’ll be the same as last time, too. “Gee, don’t know why, but for some reason your body had a wildly inappropriate autoimmune response to something!” Yeah, thanks doc.
Ugh. Talk about annoying…
Teehee. As incredibly tempting as that level of accuracy sounds, I think my professor would be upset with me if I used Google Translate.
Ugh. All the fun of random blistering, all the pleasure of a biopsy, for the sake of getting no help whatsoever. Sounds fantastic. :( I guess it’s better than bad news? Maybe?
Just to clarify since that sounds like it could be a broad variety of things: it’s a bellydance move I can’t do. It involves… twitching… quickly. I don’t know how to explain it exactly, but it comes down to the fact that I just don’t have enough muscle control? I’m hoping it gets better with time, but it’s currently the only thing I don’t feel like will get better. (There are some other issues with coordination right now, but I know practice will help those.)
CC:
Ah. Well, don’t worry about it, then. It’s probably one of those things that won’t happen until you stop trying to figure it out.
@154. Catnip, Misogynist Troglodyte called Bruce says:
Cheers. Yeah looks like I’ve confused Denmark and Norway here. Mea culpa.
@152. KG. :
Yeah, funnily enough I have indeed heard of Google.
Yup, what can I say, I’m human and sometimes I’m lazy and I generally comment in stream of consciousness style putting my thoughts down as I think them. I don’t think that’s too unusual or too much of a bad thing is it?
@ 346. localnebula :
I can relate to that. (Raises glass.)
Sounds much like me. Nice username too, btw. Like it.
An interesting view on trolls from Steven Fry. (30:00-31:10). Linky.
StevoR
Start here:
http://satwcomic.com/sweden-denmark-and-norway
read all the comics
@StevoR
Cheers! ⊔_(ツ)
And thanks. It’s a term for clouds I picked up from my astro prof. (“What’s out tonight to observe?” “Just a local nebula.”)
Jules @ 245,
You want to serve the milk warmish. Whether you prepare with hot water then cool it down, or prepare with cold (previously boiled)water then warm it up in a bath or microwave doesn’t really matter, iirc.
MDC @ 319,
Advil doesn’t cause diarrhoea, nor do any other NSAIDs.
Has anyone heard of this before ? KG maybe or Janine ? I read in my travel guide that Chiang Kai-Chek, when he fled to Taiwan, packed the whole of China’s gold reserves into one plane and took it with him. I know they had traded most of their silver for opium in the 19th century, but surely there was more gold around than would fit into a single airplane ?
Just saw this: “WTF, Mississippi?” by Andrew Cohen:
Isn’t there some kind of SLAPP-suit law for legislatures?
Sailor drinks another shot for the “Hi Bob” reference.
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Hi woden!
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In this episode Sailor has just got back from the Pink Floyd playing bar band show. The musicians were just as good, but there was a new LD & FOH engineer. In the parlance; I have some notes:
The LD was OK, the FOH engineer seemed like he’d never heard Pink Floyd and was trying to figure out how his computer was going to mix all the effects for him.
In pilot’s parlance, get your head out of the cockpit!
I felt bad for my friends on stage.
OTOH it’s hard to get 11 folks all on the same page when you can’t pay them much. The BG singer who constantly complains about her monitor didn’t show up for sound check.
I used to want to be a musician, I just couldn’t afford the lobotomy.
Hey, this is probably a stupid question, but did Dawkins get ejected from the Gnus recently or something? An accomodationist troll elsewhere seems to like him fine, even while whining about how horrible, well, y’all are for being uncivil, and last I remember Dawkins was also that XD
The Sailor
That sounds awful (I think).
Have some
rumredwine™… beer (I think.)Katherine Lorraine @139, that’s a beautiful, subtle image. Make sure to get a good artist who will do it justice.
Oh glee! SatW. Now I’m rereading it again XD
The Norwegians did some remarkable acts of sabotage against their invaders. Look for “Report from No. 24” by Gunnar Sonsteby.
chigau – “That sounds awful”
Nah, just mildly annoying.
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In other news:
Rorschach, I did a quick google search and found a report about a book that was written by the son of the man who was responsible for moving China’s treasury to Formosa. It took a year to move the gold and silver so I doubt it took one plane load.
I would keep in mind how difficult it would have been to keep gold and silver in China from the early nineteenth century through the late twentieth century and not just because of the opiate trades. European countries forced China to cede cities to their control. When the empire collapsed, governments were very unstable and the Japanese looted where ever they went.
Oh, thank you Janine, that link is very interesting ! It seems like there was one occasion where Chiang waited at the airport in Chengdu for a load of gold from Chongqing to arrive in trucks, and that may be what the guide is referencing.
Here’s a picture of the new eukaryote. It’s been known since 1865 even if this species was found only 20 years ago.
Collodictyon–an ancient lineage in the tree of eukaryotes (January, 2012).
To get their DNA they bread large populations from a small sample of individual, which might explain the low diversity.
Contrary to this summary, the bikont-unikont split might not be a true divide (2009).
…they bred… (sheesh).
I still don’t know what an ‘excavate’ is.
slignot
Don’t know, what is it?
I mean, I’m definetly sure that German pancakes aren’t German though damn delicious.
Jules
Thanx, yeah, I’m working.
It’s hard watching myself over the shoulder all the time.
Ehm, no, no idea why they do that with the formula.
But probably the package claims that there’s “probiotics” in it.
But why are they using distilled water, that makes no sense, distilled water is bad for us.
When using formula I’d boil a bottle of it in the morning and then store in the fridge. When I needed it I’d heat the amount needed to bottle temperature and then stir in the powder.
Ah, I see cm beat me to it
ibea
No, that’s the mystery: There was no apparent source of the stink. But now it’s gone.
catnip
We can usually work out a compromise. Actually, Jeans, long-sleeve and one of the light summer-dresses on top actually rock style-wise.
Yeah, no sun-protection, especially for bald-headed babies with nothing but a bit of skin between their brain and the sun.
Caine
The “Girls rock” and the Dragon were instantly added to my wishlist :)
But I really need to finish some other projects before that.
by now I have almost stopped buying stuff I actually never use…
Urgh, get better with the blistering
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Definetly need to get the “Dinosaur Fossil” sandcake forms before the next holiday :)
I always thought that the patterns on the wall in tattoo shops were what you had to choose from, but apparently they are just the starting point. The really cool people come in with an idea or a drawing or a photograph and get their own unique design.
Trying to catch up from beyond the pond, as per usual.
Bro Og, I love the sheets (I mean, I love it that Wife got you such a cool surprise). Happy reading! (and snuggling too, obvs.)
Looking good, The Sailor! (I don’t know if you have grey in your beard, but grey or white hair anywhere on the head goes really well with all-black. Mm hm.) – hope it was a great gig.
(ETA notes, huh. That must have been a mite frustrating. Still sounds like a good night overall, though.)
A kink for carrot cake pancakes? Only on Pharyngula ….
Hi localnebula and Woden, good to meet you both!
Chas and Esme swimming in the water bowl – oooh, pics?????? I loved the one of one of the rats (was it Chas?) eating out of the dog dish :)
opposablethumbs:
Sorry, didn’t get pics! You simply cannot keep rats away from dripping water. It’s a source of absolute fascination. Chas does run to the monster dog’s water dish whenever they are having a drink – he hops on the rim of the dish and stands up to try and reach their tongues – it’s that dripping water thing again.
That was Chas & Alfie in Jayne’s dish while he was eating. :D
Rats always sound cute when other people talk about them. I suspect a trick.
ruteekatreya:
No trick. My rats are frickin’ adorable. You can see for yourself: http://caine.zenfolio.com/p1004067260
I may have been influenced in the astringency of my comment by the fact that I know you to be a deeply unpleasant idiot.
Leonard Nimoy welcomes the Enterprise to New York
*sniff*
@409. KG :
You do NOT know me at all.
You may wrongly think you do – but you don’t and I’m not.
Your misjudgement of me is mistaken.
You are some dude on the net and your knowledge is very lacking.
@chigau (副) :
Okay, I will. Cheers for that.
StevoR:
Everyone here knows you by what you write and you have written some remarkable idiocy. It’s not an isolated case of “one dude on the ‘net thinks so.”
As for the rest of us, we happen to know each other quite well. It’s fine if you don’t wish to be included in that. However, you’re just going to have to live with the impressions you make on various members of the commentariat.
Also, StevoR, this:
is an excellent example of idiocy.
PS. KG I think I know a hell of lot more than you do about quite a number of things.
You understandbly enough do not know what you don’t know aboutt me and great deal else but you might want to bear that in mind.
Please note KG that folks who disagree with you are NOT “idiots” or unpleasant bad people just because they happen to disagree with you on certain issues and see things from a different perspective than you do.
As John Stewart would say, I disgree with you but I’m pretty sure you’re not Hitler.
Plus KG be very wary of setting upstraewmen and confusing them withreality.
@412. Caine, Fleur du mal says:
Well that’s your opinion and you are entitled to it. It is however, I know I incorrect. Or at the very least just your sujective opinion of my viewpioint. You think I’m wrong? I obviouslyand as ypou’d expect disagree with that. How does that make me an idiot exactly?
How so?
Pointing out that KG who is making sweeping and unjustified judjements of me based on very little evidence and mostly on the strawman of his own making seems quite apt and pertinent here to me.
KG’s knowledge of me in Real Life – and for that matter yours – is pretty minimal and limited really. Neither of you know me or about my life. Neither of you are in a position judge so, hey, how aboutz you DONT do that, hey?!?
Do you see me judging you or KG or anyone else here hmm?
(Other than defending myself from unwarranted personal attacks?)
PS. For whatever little its worth I usually enjoy and respect your comments. KG’s not so much. I think we probably agree on as much if not more than we diasgaree.
@$#@! typos. Y’all gte the gist anyhow I hope.
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Well that’s your opinion, Caine, Fleur du mal, and you are entitled to it. It is however, I know, incorrect. Or at the very least just your subjective opinion of my viewpoint. You think I’m wrong? I obviously and as you’d expect disagree with that. How does that make me an “idiot” exactly?
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For clarity. Plus emphasis.
Hey, just because I can’t type doesn’t mean I can’t think or can’t be right here. ‘K?
StevoR has a point. We don’t know him in real life. All we see are the idiocies he posts. So the meat space StevoR may be intelligent, witty, and helps little old ladies cross the streets all day. However the StevoR exposed to our view is all too often an unpleasant idiot.
‘Tis:
Indeed. He seems to be insistent on driving that home, too.
@ ^ ‘Tis Himself : What “idiocies” exactly in your opinion?
I admit I get carried away & say the odd dumb thing on occassion (plus yeah, typos & all) but I don’t think anything I’ve said is *that* stupid!
I think you are confusing “things you disagree with” with “unpleasant idiocy” and these are NOT the same categories.
StevoR,
Let me be more specific. I’m judging you on:
1) Your wish for a war of aggression against Iran, which would result in suffering and premature death on a massive scale.
2) Your support for the death penalty.
3) Your support for Gingrich for US President, based on your fatuous belief that his nonsense about a moonbase was anything other than pandering to a Florida audience, and your willingness on that basis to ignore the fact that he’s a vile right-wing scumbag.
That’s quite enough for me to know what sort of deeply unpleasant idiot you are, and that I’d want absolutely nothing to do with you IRL.
StevoR, here’s a thought: stop being an idiot and get out of our lounge, please.
@ 420. KG. :
I do NOT wish for a war on Iran.
What I think will happen and is necessary is NOT the same as wanting it to be the case.
I wish Israel, the world’s one and only Jewish nation did NOT face an existential threat from the Ayatollah’s and Ahmadinhejad.
I wish the Iranian revolution of a few years ago had suceeded and I wish the Iranians were free from the curse of Islam which holds them back, wrecks so many of their lives especially for the oppressed female majority and non-heteronormative minority and brainwashes them into monsters who think exterminating Israel and the USA and making the whole planet Muslims is right.
Accepting that reality is how it is, and what probably has to be done, probably has to be done isn’t the same as “wishing” it will happen.
I wish Reality were different and Iran was different but it ain’t so. I’m a pragmatic realist on Iran and politics.
Ahh, dontcha love it when you’re pretty sure that you’re the most competent person but get shouted down by two men?
Today we brought the caravan back to the place where it is parked when we don’t use it.
The guy who runs it is definetly not on the plus side of average intelligence and my father in law who knows everything better than anybody else™ were there, too.
Well, there was a bit of construction work going on which meant that we couldn’t park the caravan where it usually stand and Mr. had to drive and navigate backwards which is not easy, especially when your total experience in doing so is less than 100m.
I know how to direct him.
I know how much space the whole thing needs to turn.
We agreed on a set of commands to use (It’s important to agree whether you tell the driver if by “left” you mean that the caravan must turn left or that the car must turn left)
I had no freaking chance to get through, I was drowned out by two men shouting nonsensical, contradictory commands complete with weird hand movement.
Oh, and did you know that it hardly hurts if you cut yourself with a very sharp knife? In other words, my new ceramic Santoku knife is awesome.
You show once again what a deeply unpleasant idiot you are, and a liar as well. You were quite definitely advocating an attack on Iran, which would lead to massive suffering and premature death among the Iranians whom you dishonestly claim to care about. Moreover, even judged on pure self-interest, an attack on Iran would be insane, as it would stand an excellent chance of tipping the global economy over the edge by disrupting oil supplies. You might also have noticed that the head of Israel’s armed forces has recently given his opinion that the Iranian regime is pragmatic, and probably will not decide to develop nuclear weapons (although even if it did, this would neither require nor justify an attack on Iran).
So you think it’s probably necessary that we start a war with Iran, not that you wish it will occur. Big difference. Should I assume that you wish for us not to do what you claim is probably necessary, or do you not wish that either?
@ 421. Caine, Fleur du mal :
I don’t think that’s what I’m being and that’s PZ Myers call to make not yours.
I try to make a positive contribution here. You can disagree if you want but please let me have me say whether you agree with it or not.
@420. KG :
I have my reasons for that. Whole big argument here. Let’s just say there are people who deserve the death penalty particularly on an overcrowded planet with overcrowded jails.
Martin Bryant. Anders Breivik, Osama bin Laden & suchlike individuals strike me as very good arguments why we need it.
I also think we should prioritise the wishes of victims of crime over the wishes of the worst of criminals.
Moot point now. Gingruich wa smostlyan asshole and is now completely gone POTUS race~wise.
I have always wished for and believed in human space exploration and a return to our Moon as a key step in creating the best possible human future for all of us.
I’m no fan of Gingrich’es BUT he was the only one offering any hope in that regard. And now that hope has been snuffed out. I find that sad.
I wish Obama was doing what I hoped he’d do in this area rather than what he has done.
I don’t think the idea of space colonisation in the near-to-mid-future is worth the mockery and derison it seems to have and keep recieving here.
I don’t think these ideas make me an idiot or a bad person and those who know me properly in RL don’t either.
I’m not claiming to be perfect, infallible or all-wise or any such crap but I don’t think I’m such a bad, idiotic person or deserving of the crap I’m getting from here either.
Now I’m going to take a short break, watch the MotoGP qualifying, drink a few more beers and be back to this blog comments tomorrow my time – PZ Myers willing.
StevoR #442
Thinking that a war with Iran is necessary is even more idiotic than merely wanting one. The Iranians know Israel is a nuclear power. MAD is still a viable deterrent for use of WMD. The Iranian government may rattle its sabers and deny the Holocaust all they want, they’re not going to start a war with a nuclear power.
You’re still an idiot.
Watch me while I cut myself with this knife. See, that hardly hurt a bit. Here, try it yourself.
StevoR,
More of your vileness and idiocy. The number of people that even the USA or China executes is minute compared to the number in jail, let alone the global population. But maybe you want hundreds of millions executed; it wouldn’t surprise me.
No he wasn’t, fuckwit. He was telling a lie, obvious to anyone with any sense at all, in the hope that idiots in Florida would vote for him. Your credulity suggests it was by no means a forlorn hope.
consciousness razor,
Apologies for getting tetchy in our recent argument about moral facts. I’ll take another look at that thread when I’ve more time – probably Tuesday.
For fuck’s sake, if you’re going to spew this crap, pick one justification or another. Would they not deserve death if the planet weren’t overcrowded? As states murder convicts, does that mean new death-row inmates somehow deserve it less, if the rate exceeds that of population growth? What sort of twisted fucking ethics is that?
And don’t get me started on Gingrich and the fucking moon base. Your priorities are way out of whack, but you’d also have to be a total loon if you believing Gingrich was anything other than his typical bullshit pandering.
KG: Thanks. I apologize for getting on your nerves as well, if I did. I’ll try to remember to check then.
Gah, now I see I missed lots of errors in the end of #431, but it’s not even worth correcting. SteveO: idiot with bad ideas. Enough said.
Hi, Woden. Welcome. Sorry to hear of your experiences with the local atheist group, but it’s not really surprising.
Caine:
It’s demoralizing, how often I’ll see a person utter one “minor” misogynist thing, the way Raj started out with “pussy,” and I’ll get a sense that it’s just the tip of the iceberg. I had the same feeling with Abbie Smith before ElevatorGate, although at this remove I couldn’t tell you what precisely pinged my radar with her. Mostly just the whole “I’m a Special Female™” act.
Of course, some people apologize immediately when told they’ve said something misogynist, and other people are a bit more recalcitrant but eventually learn. I’m not claiming my instincts here are perfect, but, more often than not, they are. Maybe because so few people overall are willing to learn.
I just peeked into the current TZT, which I hadn’t done in a while. Raj’s #149 is like an onion of fail. And I typed that before I saw Myeck’s comment at #164.
Oh, and FWIW, Mikmik’s “Take a midol” to Chigau doesn’t surprise me one bit, either.
Anyway, I hope your upcoming biopsy leads to a diagnosis of something completely treatable.
Rorschach, ibuprofen and naproxen sodium upset my stomach when I take large doses, like 4 Advil. This occurs even when they follow a full meal and a glass of water. When I cut back on them, I have fewer instances of diarrhea. Tylenol is not as effective for me.
Markita Lynda, that’s Missouri, not Mississippi.
StevoR:
Oh, dear, the “You don’t know me” defense. All we can know of you, StevoR, is what you post here, and you’ve posted some incredibly stupid and incredibly sociopathic shit. Be smarter online or stop complaining about how everyone “misjudges” you.
Pfff. I’ve got some serious catching up to do!
Welcome, Woden! Sorry to hear about what happened in your atheist community. I wish I could be surprised about it. Elevatorgate has opened my eyes to just how many vile asshats are out there, even in communities supposedly based on rational thinking and skepticism.
Anyway, welcome! And keep fighting the patriarchy!
Why do you hate elevators ? If you want to meet vile asshats, I suggest you familiarise yourself with the AFA forums. Too many vile asshats to count there.
Hi all
Suspension looks good. Steering looks shot, and I broke high tension lead changing spark plugs. Got to shop to buy replacement set as they were closing the door. So good ending to the day.
Hi Woden!
Giliell
The sharp knife I used to try to remove the top of my finger hurt. Does that mean not sharp enough? Or is that evidenced by the failure to achieve complete detachment?
Death penalty? No. Never justifiable. Too much like revenge. Not in today’s society.
Attack Iran? As daft as attacking Iraq. Good way to ensure countless more deaths, and misery. Oh, and suks up all the money that could have gone into healthcare, education, even the space programme. (shock!)
Oh, I see I’m too late again.
Sleep time.
A moon base, even if an honest intent with a plan, is still only a temporary measure. The solution is ultimately in convincing humanity to limit itself, I suspect. You’d have civil war or revolt if children were limited outright by legal limit (I suspect even in a soft way), and doing so with any justice would require amazing safeguards to prevent it from being a tool to hurt the poor, racial minorities and the like.
It is, on its own, a valid concern (Albeit hardly grounds for execution, you fucking jackass), but it’s hardly as simple as “Moonbase and O’Neill Cylinders LOL”, no matter how much Gundam* you watch.
*I have no idea what science fiction the reader may or may not enjoy, I just happened to like Gundam. Woe will betide whosoever decides to be a hard scifi purist >:|
Why? Do you have special magic that revives those they kill? Is the purpose of the law vengeance?
Little known fact: Although Iran is horrible to gay people, it happily funds the transition of trans people, which you white devils typically go well out of your way to make hellishly difficult. Do not appropriate the travails of those you do not understand or care about to use as a bludgeon. We are not stupid, and we do not approve.
To a point. But you’re not entitled to someone else’s life; ever.
It is entirely within your power to understand that you are not wanted and should perhaps leave the personal area. Why people try to hang out where they’re clearly unwanted is beyond me; it’s one thing to remain in an adversarial context, but that’s not this thread’s purpose.
Then help get it paid for, you jackass. It’s not like the US lacks the ability in theory, it just refuses to pay out for it.
Oh yes it is.
Perhaps a large mouse…
I enjoyed Wife and I’s new sheets last night. I did notice one thing that irked me. The damn things are dinosaur sheets, but there is a pterasaur. Those damn things are not dinosaurs. They are related to the dinosaurs, but so are the other archosaurs.
I hope sober posting is still acceptable. I was mildly buzzed (two Ommegangs and a neat scotch) on my last birthday is the closest I have come to innebriation since I was in college. Last century.
I thought we (the US) settled that about 150 years ago.
As in, this insurance company refuses to keep my asthmatic son on my health insurance policy and if a government employee says they have to I can sue the government employee?
[Sound of record needle skittering across a Bob Dylan LP]
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SteveO: All we can judge you on is what you have written on this blog. You may very well be a wonderful person. However, your previous writings, and the writings on this very thread show that the opinions formed by me, and others, of your on-line personality are pretty much correct. Your ability to dismiss evidence via your ‘superior’ opinion shows that you are not interested in actual discussion here at Pharyngula but are, instead, looking for a bully pulpit to spread your opinions sans evidence.
Not so. They’ll just have to build a giant, Missouri-shaped dome to defend against invasion and air strikes. How could they ever afford something so extravagant, you ask? Simple: lower taxes to stimulate the economy in its special naughty places with the invisible hand and get rid of the welfare programs it’s barely supporting in the first place. Once Anheuser-Busch is no longer under the control of a foreign corporation but in the rightful hands of domestic investors, Missourians will be so drunk on Freedom™ that they will hardly notice.
I get to go to the field and collect samples today! It’s only a day-trip, but yay!
*excited jazz hands*
Hope everyone is having an excellent Saturday (or whatever day it is in Oz and/or the Ogvorbisverse). I certainly am!
Hi all, a very threadrupt Minnie here.
Last weeks have been total madness with work and other things, too. I’ve missed you.
Brother Ogvorbis: congrats on the cool sheets, never mind the pterasaur.
And yes, I’m drunk (slightly) posting now, too, but it’s not my fault. The BFF came to fix some issues on my comp, and he always wants to get paid in brewery products, so I had to have a couple of cold ones to keep him company.
Otherwise, same old same old. Except that we’ll start the migration to the summer cottage in about a week, which is fucking awesome!
So, what have you all been up to?
Yay, comment #444. Two thirds of the beast. Must try harder.
Hi Minnie!
Thursday.
Sunday.
Hi chigau (副)!
Brother Ogvorbis: if you’re having a Thursday, I wish you a wonderful upcoming weekend! I’m already well into my Saturday, and it seems that Monday is already on it’s way far too soon.
Luckily, next Tuesday is Mayday (or Monday is Walpurgisnacht, the celebration depends on whether you’re a socialist or a Wiccan), so Tuesday a national holiday here. More time to prepare for the Great Migration.
rorschach: Surely not Sunday yet, even in the Antipodes?
Brisbane is already nearly two hours into Sunday.
Saturday, Sunday . . .
Damn oppressive calendarists!
It’s Tuesday in the A. R-verse.
Speaking of Minnie and migrations: Sili and I are going to go to the conference in Cologne (assuming any tickets are left). You, too?
“Please don’t shoot the nuclear weapons”
Let’s just call it a Pharyngaday.
Giliell: “I see cm beat me to it”.
Ah, but you got it right. Mix before chilling, then reheat.
Janine: “what does it say about me that I like Kate Bush and Lemmy?”
Nothing we didn’t already know from the contents of your iPod. ;-)
:-o
Can you, like, smuggle him along to the dig? He still fits into a suitcase, if not even a backpack, doesn’t he?
Dr. David Marjanović:
alas, no show for little minnies. I nearly managed to arrange a business meeting in Cologne close enough to attend the Big Bash, but it fell through. One of the central players in the arrangements has only recently become a father, so we let him decide on the details, so, for obvious reasons, the meeting is held here in Finland =(
(but, one of these days, when you least expect…)
Pterosaur, of course.
Why would that be a symbol of transgenderism?
*sniff*
I can only hope.Nobody expex the Spanish Inquisitiaaaaaaan!Oh, and Dr. David: WHERE IS THE DIG??? Can’t you at least name the continent? I could maybe drop over and hold your pick-axe for you or something…
Huh. I don’t know what it is, but onion girl must be engineering something.
As of yet, there are no free places anymore. :-( It’s in Krasiejów in southern Poland, the dig where I took Jadehawk two years ago.
“Nobody expex the Spanish Inquisitiaaaaaaan!”
I promise I won’t try to torture you with soft cushions!
Actually, the Spanish Inquisition typically gave you three months to prepare a defense… /not-getting the Monty Python reference.
Dr. David:
well, y’all have a blast, then. I’ll be at the granny cottage, posting about the wonderful weather and the late evening swims at the lake, while you all sweat at the salt mines ;)
(really, I’d love to be there. maybe, when you least expect… wait. what. no soft cushions, I promise)
This is why the term ‘Archosaur’ needs to enter the public’s consciousness more. If pterosaur’s aren’t getting lumped in with dinosaurs, they’re often getting ignored completely.
Though that still doesn’t address Dimetrodon, the second most common non-dinosaur ‘dinosaur’.
DDMFM: I just this week read a poster that was about some gekkonids from S. Poland. Is that area like some kind of treasure trove of fossils?
Hi TLC! _o/
Dimetrodons are my favorites.
Minnie: I’ve been seeing Dimetrodons in books since I was old enough to know what a ‘dinosaur’ was, but it’s only in the last few years I’ve actually learned what a Dimetrodon ‘is’. I always kind of assumed it was just a giant lizard with a fin.
I’m still wwaayy behind. Just got the ornaments off the holiday tree (artificial of course). Still have to finish tangling the lights into their boxes. But now some lunch before heading off to help the Redhead with correspondence.
Ooo, Nerd of Redhead! Hi _o/! And my best regards to the Redhead herself.
Screw the dimetrodons. Gorgonopsids are cool.
And, from a book I am reading, so is Scipionyx samniticus (Dal Sasso, 2004).
Woden @329, welcome. You’ll fit right in, I think.
Caine @341, thanks for the ref. to Standards & Practices.
It’s been cold here for the end of April–below freezing last night after a very mild February & March. Odd, isn’t it, how the climate seems to be getting more and more chaotic?
Has anyone noticed this “Unikonts [one flagellum] and bikonts [two flagella] split may not be phylogenetic” from 2009? (And I think ‘flagellum’ here means not just a moving appendage but two different kinds.)
Brother Ogvorbis: Oh, those are cool, too.
But I would still not screw the dimetrodons, if I can help it.
Anybody in Toronto? As a former customer, I have a coupon for $50 at Avec Plaisir lingerie shop–on purchases of %550 or over! Outside my budget at the moment but for reference that’s probably a bra, 2 pairs of panties, and a slip.
…that would still fly.
Ms. Daisy Cutter @434,
Thanks for the correction. I can only plead that it was very late in my time zone and I knew it was Miss… something and took a guess rather than go back and check.
Oh, hi, Localnebula, too!
I’m off to a show of archaic printing techniques.
Ufff
Rest of the pack’s in the tub, so I have 5 min of peace.
Somehow we missed spring. I swear the weather went from winter to summer instantly so we had the most wonderfull summer day today.
I fell on my bum while skating, and since I’m a responsible adult and good role-model™ and also not stupid there are now some deep scratches in my protective gear and not in my hands.
Also aspergus lasagna
Delicious
We went from late spring back to early spring: I don’t approve.
Giliell, are you on Facebook?
David M:
Is that where they’ve been finding the tetrapod tracks 395MYA?
Markita
No, I disagree with their terms of service.
Well, at the very least, the physical contortions required to gain access to the cloaca under the tail, while, at the same time, not impaling one’s self on the bony spines, would be interesting.
I hate it when all the threads seem to go silent at the same time.
It makes me think of pod-people.
I finally successfully set up my pirated version of W O R D! I am so proud of myself.
Hey, CC, for what it’s worth, you don’t have to do hip bumps quickly. My teacher always started us by doing them pretty slowly, with steps in between, and that seemed to help. Some people just have immense difficulty using the muscles for a hip bump to happen, and the only solution for that is time and practice, but trying to do them quickly as a twitch is not going to help any. Speed it up when you feel like you have the basic move down (and watch the level of your head; don’t pop up and down like a whack-a-mole).
Oh, also, it helped me a lot to do them as a hip drop first. This may not be helpful at all for you but it was much easier for me to think of putting the emphasis on dropping my hip down, taking the stress off of getting the up portion “right”.
Good luck, the hip bump/drop is one of those pivotal moves where once you get how to engage the muscles it opens up a lot of other bellydance possibilities. Mine was the hip tilt, and for the longest time I could not figure out how to do it without raising up on my toes.
Zombie Duckie, xe is done! Now onto Bender’s Duckie.
Hurray for dinosaur sheets!
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In any case, *hugs* and *cchocolate*, since from context I assume that this is Not Good News.
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Hi, woden; welcome in.
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Time to dress for a wedding; no Game tonight. At least this should calm the Game Master down enough to concentrate on what’s important.
:P
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Today has been odd. I got up at an ordinary time (for me, saturday get-up time is ~9 am) and moseyed out the door for the weekly sit-at-a-diner-and-talk session.
There was a parade!
Maybe 30 people, in street clothes, walking along the street. Led by a Scottish band, complete with bagpipes, and followed by 6 mounted cops. Followed by 6 cop cars.
Huh?
It took me 40 minutes to go 6 blocks. Late for breakfast.
May have been a funeral for a current or former officer.
opposablethumbs:
And they were delicious! *burp*
Caine:
Beautiful!
Cicely:
It’s annoying news. Random, stupid auto-immune response to any one of a zillion effing things.
Wedding? Have fun!
Audley:
:D The image is a bit washed out, it’s now been raining for two days and it’s cloudy and overcast outside, so I had to use my flash unit.
Cop funerals tend to not feature a marked lack of hearses/pallbearers, crowds of people with signs wearing jeans, and laughing.
But I dunno.
Sorry. I commented with incomplete information. Will happen again.
It’s fine, Oggie. I am le baffléd myself.
In other news: fried eggos are surprisingly delicious.
Hmm. “The Dimetrodon Song” doesn’t have quite the same ring to it as “The Hedgehog Song”, but maybe we can do something with it.