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  1. says

    If atheists were confident in their claims they wouldn’t bother with attacks on Xianity, you know.

    Which, if applied consistently, would mean that virtually no Xians have ever been confident in their faith.

    In all seriousness, creationism in particular never has been the least bit confident, or it wouldn’t have to poison the well of science constantly. Lies about what evolutionary science is for are basic to all of creationism, and especially to ID.

    Glen Davidson

  2. says

    very happy to see mr. loftus on FTB. I have read his blog many times, especially recently, and he can certainly offer some entertainment alongside the growing list of blogs here

  3. says

    Love the tip of the hat to Aliens.

    John Loftus writings were and still are on my reading lists about atheism. He also assisted my shift out of my cloud of agnosticism.

  4. ChrisKG says

    @Andrew,

    “This is not good news.”

    Yes, it is.

    “Loftus is an admitted liar, he got caught faking a blog about an apologist, had sex with an Employee and tried to blame here, takes full credit for books he only cotributed to…the list goes on and on. Heck, even his own family can’t stand him; he posts videos of his Preacher brother making fun of him all the time.”

    The Ad Hominem nature of this seems rather peculiar. How does a blog post make him a liar? Do you know this for a fact? Do you know the circumstances? Was it it an oversight, a faulty source, if it happened was it retracted, what is your source? First, however, maybe you should provide some proof that this is true. Second, an affair is rather human (even God knocked up another man’s wife) and whether his family likes him or not is irrelevant to the point that his work is true (or not). Instead of focusing your vitriol on the person, look at his works instead. Shouldn’t each point be examined on its own merits?

    “His intellectual qualifications are zero…less than zero since he studies under William Lane Craig.(By the way, he never tires of telling people that, like its an impressive thing or something.)”

    And yours are what? Did you study under a pillar in the field in which you work? The point is he learned that Craig’s arguments are wrong. He isn’t supporting Craig. Did you miss that point?

  5. says

    Hey Andrew,

    Guess what? I went link diving, and it turns out you are one of Loftus’s fleas (evidence). It seems that this is all you do, hop around from blog to blog writing up libel about Loftus.

    Not a single shred of evidence exists for any of the crap you accuse him of. For example, trying to get direct evidence of the JP Holding fake blog accusation is like swallowing a giant shake of sophisticated theology–not gonna happen.

  6. jwloftus says

    I have a stalker and it looks like he’s Andrew since I can recognize his “voice,” which is always the same.

    At least I have one. They say you can always tell how famous a person is by the number of stalkers he has.

    I have one!

    Woooo hooooo!

    He has been banned under so many different alias’ on my blog I have forgotten most of them, but on Amazon he goes by A Theist and KC James.

  7. says

    Worse. I followed that link, found that “Andrew” there had left a link to his blogger profile…which was “Emanuel Goldstein” from Kansas.

    This is one of the Kansas trolls, the notorious liars for Jesus and creationism, who are apparently gearing up again to piss on atheist blogs. Already banned. Post purged. Future comments by those assholes will meet the same fate.

  8. otrame says

    Re: Andrew et al.

    Why can’t these guys figure out that if you have to lie to make your point, your point is probably wrong?

  9. ManhattanMC says

    I read Pharyngula, Debunking christianity, richarddawkins dot net and no beliefs dot com daily.
    We would be much poorer without any of them.

  10. KG says

    I followed that link, found that “Andrew” there had left a link to his blogger profile…which was “Emanuel Goldstein” from Kansas. – PZ

    I wonder if “Emmanuel Goldstein” realises that the character of that name in 1984 is not, as far as one can tell*, really the heroic opponent of the Party’s tyranny Winston Smith believes him to be, but a propaganda fiction invented by the Party itself.

    *Of course there’s no fact of the matter here, and Orwell may not have “known” himself, but since everything Winston Smith believes about the resistance turns out to be false, it’s most consistent with the story to assume that his belief in Goldstein is too.

  11. Ing says

    And my sick brain read Goldsteind as Goldar, so I’m imagining the golden baboon from Power Rangers typing furiously.

  12. nemothederv says

    @12 PZ

    Thanks for the update.
    I was reading down the posts thinking “who the hell is andrew?”
    Turns out he’s nobody.

  13. RobertL says

    Game over, man.

    I say we take off, and nuke the site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.

  14. Achrachno says

    I’m going to have to give up sleeping if FTB adds a couple more like this. Initially I could read everything over my cheerios in the morning, but that became hopeless after just a couple of weeks. This is not going to get better, is it?

    Welcome, though!

  15. Shawn Smith says

    Game over, man.

    So, now you’re Hudson? Here’s another one from slightly later.

    In case you haven’t been keeping up on current events, we just got our asses kicked, pal. (Hudson to Burke)

  16. Hazuki says

    I did wasn you, PZ :/ Loftus’s blog attracts a lot of kooks, especially that peculiar brand of presuppositionalist like Heddle. The kind that at first seems sane enough, but devolves into eye-twitching unreason if you poke him a few times.