What this video needs is a believer explaining each question immediately after.
“You see, what God really meant when he said that was…”
Jaycubedsays
You can’t even get from page 1 to page 2 without a gross contradiction; whether yahweh created the other animals first and then man (Gen 1: 20-27) or whether yahweh created man first and then the other animals (Gen 2: 7, 19-20).
Newfiesays
Zeus was never so wishy washy. You knew that he meant business.
Amazingly comprehensive deconstruction of bible nonsense.
I hope this video goes viral, but too bad it is titled that way, nobody is gonna do a search under that title which doesn’t properly relay the content of the video.
Standard curvesays
Funny, though a little long.
Ben Gorensays
A great one to use on door-to-door Jesus salesmen is, “Who was Joseph’s father?”
Of course, the standard apologetic apology is that the one genealogy traces Joseph’s lineage while the other traces Mary’s. And, if you challenge a True Believer™ with the fact that there are two genealogies, that’s exactly the vague sort of argument you’ll get hopelessly drawn into.
But there’s no getting over the fact that Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus in Matthew 1:16, while Luke 3:23 makes clear that Jesus is the (supposed) son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.
So did Joseph have two daddies? Or maybe Jesus himself had two daddies, both named Joseph.
Or — I know! Maybe it’s all bullshit!
Sure gets me how anybody can think Jesus was an historical figure when nobody has a fucking clue about any of even the most basic biographical details that everybody should have known about.
Cheers,
—
EAC Memographer
BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy
“All but God can prove this sentence true.”
abb3wsays
So, since I’m not quite slacker enough to watch YouTube videos at work, how does it handle Isaiah 40:28 versus Isaiah 43:24?
Holytapesays
Ben, Ben, Ben, haven’t you heard Ray Comfort’s answer to that contradiction, or controsataniction, is that Joseph is the son of man named Jacob Heli Smith.
That’s fine for literalists/inerrantists, of course. It’s not hard to find a fallback position from there where it’s all true, just a few errors crept in. Or even, the errors weren’t in the original, only in later copies (I don’t see how that helps us, of course).
The bigger problem is that the whole theme of the Bible changes from god as an oriental despot to some weird combination of Greek idealism plus the old “only blood removes sin,” so Jesus dies, etc. It isn’t coherent in itself, nor coherent within the world we live.
So I wouldn’t get too hung up on the errors that can be easily enough dismissed.
Ah, Holytape, but that’s the beauty of identifying such stark black-and-white contradictions.
Don’t you see? Ray Comfort’s just gone and shot himself in the foot, for he’s saying that both Matthew and Luke are liars and deceivers. So if even Ray Comfort is proclaiming the Bible is bullshit, why should anybody pretend to give it a second thought?
Pick something even a young child can see is an obvious contradiction. Let the apologists apologize. Agree with them that they must be right and the Bible must be worng, so why are they holding up the Bible, again…?
Lather, rinse, repeat.
Cheers,
b&
broboxley OTsays
@Jaycubed #3 which yaweh are you referring to?
somewhereingreecesays
This is one of the most beautifully executed deconstructions I have ever seen.
It goes to show that those who claim to live by the Bible haven’t actually read it.
kilternkafufflesays
NonStampCollector is quite the Biblical scholar! That’s an amazingly thorough destruction!
We should smuggle his videos into seminaries and see what happens.
Jaycubedsays
@Jaycubed #3 which yaweh are you referring to?
Posted by: broboxley OT
Yaweh #475221830573
broboxley OTsays
@Jaycubed #18 Oh, fred nevermind
Iansays
#9/abb3w: Video does indeed handle that. Game show host asks Ken, one of the contestants, if he’s doing okay. Ken replies that he’s tireless and cannot be wearied, just like God. Host asks if Ken would like to take a break, and Ken agrees, because it’s exactly what would do.
All contradictions are sourced on-screen.
Epictetussays
Hey, wait a minute, I have a book here by someone called Norman Geisler who assures us that god’s word is perfect. He has a ready answer for every “seeming” contradiction found throughout the Bible… I can’t help thinking that maybe if the Lord had been more careful in writing his word, apologists like Geisler, William Lane Craig, etc. wouldn’t be necessary (they’d be out of a job). But as the Lord, whose ways are indeed mysterious, has seen fit to write a book that is, among other things, full of contradictions, apologists are an absolute necessity…So an infallible and omniscient god evidently needs the help of fallible apologists… Interesting.
David Marjanovićsays
Awesome.
And so is comment 21.
Kobrasays
The Bible: Explaining historical events using superposition since time immemorial.
This was Non-Stamp Collector’s best work to date, IMO.
Gregory Greenwoodsays
The theists who go on and on about the ‘inerrant word of god’ never seem to take the time to read their supposedly holy book and take note of the legion of inconsistencies therein, each of which is great enough for you to fly several 747s through simultaneously.
To any thinking person the bibble, and indeed all ‘holy’ books, are manifestly poorly written anthologies of barbarous mythology and superstition that really have no place in the modern world except as a regfuge for the terminally deluded.
Yet religious groups are still afforded such power and the criticism of religious discrepency and outright evil is still such a social taboo in so many cultures. As the Americans might say, go figure.
The Project Reason site seems to be functional, but the “Download” buttons give only “no such page” error messages. Use the “Print” button for a workaround (.pdf downloaded by Firefox without further ado, in my experience).
Poster details 439 biblical discrepancies (though a couple may have been refuted by commenters), with an eye-catching, logical but printer-challenging graphic design.
Shplanesays
Huh. Friend of mine linked me to this on Facebook. I didn’t realize it was big enough for PZ to notice it as well.
Let’s take it literally!
What this video needs is a believer explaining each question immediately after.
“You see, what God really meant when he said that was…”
You can’t even get from page 1 to page 2 without a gross contradiction; whether yahweh created the other animals first and then man (Gen 1: 20-27) or whether yahweh created man first and then the other animals (Gen 2: 7, 19-20).
Zeus was never so wishy washy. You knew that he meant business.
LOL @ giant Sam Harris poster Contradictions in the Bible”
Amazingly comprehensive deconstruction of bible nonsense.
I hope this video goes viral, but too bad it is titled that way, nobody is gonna do a search under that title which doesn’t properly relay the content of the video.
Funny, though a little long.
A great one to use on door-to-door Jesus salesmen is, “Who was Joseph’s father?”
Of course, the standard apologetic apology is that the one genealogy traces Joseph’s lineage while the other traces Mary’s. And, if you challenge a True Believer™ with the fact that there are two genealogies, that’s exactly the vague sort of argument you’ll get hopelessly drawn into.
But there’s no getting over the fact that Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus in Matthew 1:16, while Luke 3:23 makes clear that Jesus is the (supposed) son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.
So did Joseph have two daddies? Or maybe Jesus himself had two daddies, both named Joseph.
Or — I know! Maybe it’s all bullshit!
Sure gets me how anybody can think Jesus was an historical figure when nobody has a fucking clue about any of even the most basic biographical details that everybody should have known about.
Cheers,
—
EAC Memographer
BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy
“All but God can prove this sentence true.”
So, since I’m not quite slacker enough to watch YouTube videos at work, how does it handle Isaiah 40:28 versus Isaiah 43:24?
Ben, Ben, Ben, haven’t you heard Ray Comfort’s answer to that contradiction, or controsataniction, is that Joseph is the son of man named Jacob Heli Smith.
If you simple rewrite the bible, there are no contradictions.
Noah, rewritten.
The virgin birth, rewritten.
The passion, rewritten.
This was the best 10 minutes at work of my week.
That’s fine for literalists/inerrantists, of course. It’s not hard to find a fallback position from there where it’s all true, just a few errors crept in. Or even, the errors weren’t in the original, only in later copies (I don’t see how that helps us, of course).
The bigger problem is that the whole theme of the Bible changes from god as an oriental despot to some weird combination of Greek idealism plus the old “only blood removes sin,” so Jesus dies, etc. It isn’t coherent in itself, nor coherent within the world we live.
So I wouldn’t get too hung up on the errors that can be easily enough dismissed.
Glen D
http://tinyurl.com/mxaa3p
Ah, Holytape, but that’s the beauty of identifying such stark black-and-white contradictions.
Don’t you see? Ray Comfort’s just gone and shot himself in the foot, for he’s saying that both Matthew and Luke are liars and deceivers. So if even Ray Comfort is proclaiming the Bible is bullshit, why should anybody pretend to give it a second thought?
Pick something even a young child can see is an obvious contradiction. Let the apologists apologize. Agree with them that they must be right and the Bible must be worng, so why are they holding up the Bible, again…?
Lather, rinse, repeat.
Cheers,
b&
@Jaycubed #3 which yaweh are you referring to?
This is one of the most beautifully executed deconstructions I have ever seen.
It goes to show that those who claim to live by the Bible haven’t actually read it.
NonStampCollector is quite the Biblical scholar! That’s an amazingly thorough destruction!
We should smuggle his videos into seminaries and see what happens.
@Jaycubed #3 which yaweh are you referring to?
Posted by: broboxley OT
Yaweh #475221830573
@Jaycubed #18 Oh, fred nevermind
#9/abb3w: Video does indeed handle that. Game show host asks Ken, one of the contestants, if he’s doing okay. Ken replies that he’s tireless and cannot be wearied, just like God. Host asks if Ken would like to take a break, and Ken agrees, because it’s exactly what would do.
All contradictions are sourced on-screen.
Hey, wait a minute, I have a book here by someone called Norman Geisler who assures us that god’s word is perfect. He has a ready answer for every “seeming” contradiction found throughout the Bible… I can’t help thinking that maybe if the Lord had been more careful in writing his word, apologists like Geisler, William Lane Craig, etc. wouldn’t be necessary (they’d be out of a job). But as the Lord, whose ways are indeed mysterious, has seen fit to write a book that is, among other things, full of contradictions, apologists are an absolute necessity…So an infallible and omniscient god evidently needs the help of fallible apologists… Interesting.
Awesome.
And so is comment 21.
The Bible: Explaining historical events using superposition since time immemorial.
Prayer meltdown:
http://jonathanturley.org/2010/04/26/video-graduation-prayer-meltdown/
OMG, Noah’s Ark has been found:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100426/lf_afp/hongkongturkeyreligionarchaeologynoahsark
This was Non-Stamp Collector’s best work to date, IMO.
The theists who go on and on about the ‘inerrant word of god’ never seem to take the time to read their supposedly holy book and take note of the legion of inconsistencies therein, each of which is great enough for you to fly several 747s through simultaneously.
To any thinking person the bibble, and indeed all ‘holy’ books, are manifestly poorly written anthologies of barbarous mythology and superstition that really have no place in the modern world except as a regfuge for the terminally deluded.
Yet religious groups are still afforded such power and the criticism of religious discrepency and outright evil is still such a social taboo in so many cultures. As the Americans might say, go figure.
That’s Numberswang! Simon?
Somebody had to.
Joey Mack @ # 5: … giant Sam Harris poster Contradictions in the Bible…
The Project Reason site seems to be functional, but the “Download” buttons give only “no such page” error messages. Use the “Print” button for a workaround (.pdf downloaded by Firefox without further ado, in my experience).
Poster details 439 biblical discrepancies (though a couple may have been refuted by commenters), with an eye-catching, logical but printer-challenging graphic design.
Huh. Friend of mine linked me to this on Facebook. I didn’t realize it was big enough for PZ to notice it as well.
This is brilliant!