I’ve seen whole junior high classes that complicate the issue of individuality.
Brownian, OMsays
I enjoy these CreatureCasts, but they really need to work on the sound. Sophia Tintori has a tendency to lower her voice to the point of inaudibility at the end of sentences.
Glen Davidsonsays
Evolution continues to re-do what it’s done countless times before–reinventing colony specialization over and over again.
It’s less like conjoined twins, and more like cells dividing yet remaining attached and specializing–like we develop. Only the unit that specializes is not the cell, it’s a multicellular animal already.
No way are those things shown in the illustrations real. Right? Please?
kiyarorusays
I’m using Firefox on an old EeePC so the vimeo video doesn’t work worth a crap. The Wikipedia article is pretty cool.
Also, in case anyone missed it, FSM.
llewellysays
Cool video, but the audio needs a higher quality compression setting, and the narrator sounds as if she is too far from the mike.
Fred The Hunsays
I ♥ siphonophores
I would have to guess that you’ve never come up from a dive to find one of these wrapped around scuba tank… They are rather pretty to look at though ;-)
Humans have co-evolved with many forms of bacteria (isn’t most of our body made up of genetic material that’s not our own?) So, don’t all animals already complicate the issue of individuality?
mmelliott01says
Brian the Siphonophore Messiah: Look, you’ve got it all wrong! You don’t need to follow me, you don’t need to follow anybody! You’ve got to think for yourselves! You’re all individuals!
Siphonophore Crowd (in unison): Yes! We’re all individuals!
Brian: You’re all different!
Crowd (in unison): Yes, we are all different!
Siphonophore in Crowd: I’m not.
Another Siphonophore: Shhh!
— And while that’s going on, here is the news for siphonophores
littlestarsays
These are so neat! I’m also curious if the illustrations are real, there is some serious science fiction fodder here.
mattincincisays
kewl
Sven DiMilosays
Thos eillusteations are by Ernst Haeckel! HOAXES!!! All of them HOAXES!!!!!
skeptical scientistsays
I ♥ siphonophores
Does that make you a siphonophile?
Butch Pansysays
I was under the impression that multicellular life was just a way for mitochondria, with a seemingly boundless sense of theater, to make more of themselves.
zoobiewasays
The images are gorgeous but their theorizing isn’t all that compelling. They don’t really give a case (or even an explanation) for the members simply being cells. How are they different? Is there a genetic difference? If you cut one off would it be able to live alone? I’m sure there are many reasons why we don’t simply consider them to be cells but we sure don’t hear a word of them.
John Moralessays
zoobiewa,
How are they different? Is there a genetic difference? If you cut one off would it be able to live alone?
IOW, you want information to be spoon-fed to you; independent research into existing literature is sooooo hard… it’s not like you could just do a term search on some vast, world-wide database, right? ;)
Akira MacKenziesays
It looks like something the Miskatonic Antarctic Expedition of 1931 dug out of the ice.
jcmartz.myopenid.comsays
Call in the philosophers.
Crudely Wrottsays
We have never been ourselves, oh no!
The self and id are dreams, you know.
Feeling unique is merely for show.
And the mind is committee
Whups, there we go!
We’re made up of many,
As countries and such.
A sense of uniqueness
Is just a nice touch
We bestow on ourselves,
Since we like it so much.
To our inward providers
We give not a thought
But without their labors
We all would be naught.
Brownian, OM says
I’ve seen whole junior high classes that complicate the issue of individuality.
Brownian, OM says
I enjoy these CreatureCasts, but they really need to work on the sound. Sophia Tintori has a tendency to lower her voice to the point of inaudibility at the end of sentences.
Glen Davidson says
Evolution continues to re-do what it’s done countless times before–reinventing colony specialization over and over again.
It’s less like conjoined twins, and more like cells dividing yet remaining attached and specializing–like we develop. Only the unit that specializes is not the cell, it’s a multicellular animal already.
Glen D
http://tinyurl.com/mxaa3p
Rey Fox says
No way are those things shown in the illustrations real. Right? Please?
kiyaroru says
I’m using Firefox on an old EeePC so the vimeo video doesn’t work worth a crap. The Wikipedia article is pretty cool.
Also, in case anyone missed it, FSM.
llewelly says
Cool video, but the audio needs a higher quality compression setting, and the narrator sounds as if she is too far from the mike.
Fred The Hun says
I would have to guess that you’ve never come up from a dive to find one of these wrapped around scuba tank… They are rather pretty to look at though ;-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Man_o%27_War
ptucker says
Humans have co-evolved with many forms of bacteria (isn’t most of our body made up of genetic material that’s not our own?) So, don’t all animals already complicate the issue of individuality?
mmelliott01 says
Brian the Siphonophore Messiah: Look, you’ve got it all wrong! You don’t need to follow me, you don’t need to follow anybody! You’ve got to think for yourselves! You’re all individuals!
Siphonophore Crowd (in unison): Yes! We’re all individuals!
Brian: You’re all different!
Crowd (in unison): Yes, we are all different!
Siphonophore in Crowd: I’m not.
Another Siphonophore: Shhh!
— And while that’s going on, here is the news for siphonophores
littlestar says
These are so neat! I’m also curious if the illustrations are real, there is some serious science fiction fodder here.
mattincinci says
kewl
Sven DiMilo says
Thos eillusteations are by Ernst Haeckel! HOAXES!!! All of them HOAXES!!!!!
skeptical scientist says
Does that make you a siphonophile?
Butch Pansy says
I was under the impression that multicellular life was just a way for mitochondria, with a seemingly boundless sense of theater, to make more of themselves.
zoobiewa says
The images are gorgeous but their theorizing isn’t all that compelling. They don’t really give a case (or even an explanation) for the members simply being cells. How are they different? Is there a genetic difference? If you cut one off would it be able to live alone? I’m sure there are many reasons why we don’t simply consider them to be cells but we sure don’t hear a word of them.
John Morales says
zoobiewa,
IOW, you want information to be spoon-fed to you; independent research into existing literature is sooooo hard… it’s not like you could just do a term search on some vast, world-wide database, right? ;)
Akira MacKenzie says
It looks like something the Miskatonic Antarctic Expedition of 1931 dug out of the ice.
jcmartz.myopenid.com says
Call in the philosophers.
Crudely Wrott says
We have never been ourselves, oh no!
The self and id are dreams, you know.
Feeling unique is merely for show.
And the mind is committee
Whups, there we go!
We’re made up of many,
As countries and such.
A sense of uniqueness
Is just a nice touch
We bestow on ourselves,
Since we like it so much.
To our inward providers
We give not a thought
But without their labors
We all would be naught.