Could all the troll mythology have stemmed from naked chimpanzees that liked to loiter under bridges? You know, because chimpanzees have fur in the same way that muslim women wear burkas…
Archaneussays
Seeing him furless like that makes it very clear how related we are to these guys.
Ichthyicsays
The emperor’s new clothes?
SaintPaddysays
Calm down… It’s just Karl Pilkington.
Larrysays
Trying to remember who that was that wrote “The Naked Ape”.
Was it Desmond Morris?? Just guessing.
Murraysays
He looks more purple than pink on my screen. Is this some kind of chimpanzee alopecia?
I feel like he looks some days, maybe we could get an Atheist knitting bee organised and nit that poor guy some jumpers :-)
Naked Bunny with a Whipsays
Maybe he’s just wearing a skinsuit to the local HumanCon.
pcarinisays
Poor guy looks almost bashful.
I heard about a similar case some time back and, iirc, it mentioned that the lack of fur also affected the poor chimp’s status. I’m not having any luck digging the source up at the moment though ;(
That’s such a great photo. I love the original commentary by the guest blogger on BB: “Hobbies include eating fruit and making humans feel deeply uncomfortable”.
I swear whenever I look at it out of the corner of my eye, I think it’s an old man.
I think that the Azeris, Armenians, Georgians, Ossetes, Abkhazians, and Chechens among others may object to this statement.
Jim Bob Cootersays
He look so sad, I want to give him a hug. After which he would tear my arms out of their sockets.
Bride of Shrek OMsays
With those thighs I imagine he’d be a shoe-in for the hill sections of the Tour De France. I think he’s just gorgeous but I hope whatever is making him lose his hair isn’t nasty for the poor fellow.
Paper Handsays
Poor guy. :-( What happened to him?
Blue-eyed Videotsays
I squint my eyes a wee bit and he bears an uncanny resemblance to Rodin’s The Thinker.
I really want to know how he lost all of his hair, I’m not sure what could do that.
As for the pinkish skin, chimpanzees get darker skin as they get older, so this could just be a teenager whose reached adult size, but not all of the other characteristics. Also, some of the subspecies are considered to have darker skin/hair then others, as well as longer hair, etc.
pradeepsays
I was born in Mysore, India and my wife lived only about a mile from this zoo. I wonder what caused this chimp to loose all of his hair, as this zoo is an excellent zoo in India. I wonder if some type of tropical mange caused all of the hair loss. But aside from that, the homologous morphology between this “naked” chimp and us startling once the hair is removed.
stewallsays
OK; who’s been spying through my bathroom window while I was taking a ****
BlueIndependentsays
I must say, without the hair he looks damn near human.
Without hair this chimp really drives home why we share 98% of our DNA.
Living in India he’s probably not too cold but I expect he’d be prone to sunburn and skin cancer. Wonder what caused the hairloss?
Menyambalsays
I’m re-reading Dawkins’s The Ancestor’s Tale, and just passed the part where he discusses sexual selection as a factor in the development of hairlessness in humans. I really thought he had a good point.
Now, I’m not so sure.
Helioprogenussays
@#20, Meng Bonim,
As an Armenian, it’s getting tiring having to explain that being Caucasian has nothing to do with race, but everything to do with geography. So I appreciate your comments enlightening people on this situation.
Also, as a not-so-hairless Armenian, I must say that if I lost all my body hair like this poor Chimp, you would see the same sullen expression on my person. There are two different types of naked, and losing your body hair relegates you to the complete nakedness that I cannot fathom. It’s like shaving your fluffy dog and realizing how different he looks.
DrClownsays
Mysore? Moar leik Eyesore.
SAWellssays
I know that’s a distant cousin of ours, but without the fur he looks awfully like an ancestor. Strangely moving.
Richard Harrissays
Bride of Shrek @ #22, With those thighs I imagine he’d be a shoe-in for the hill sections of the Tour De France.
No. He’d be better suited to a flat stage with a sprint finish, or, alternatively, track sprinting.
The mountain specialists have a wiry build. The well-muscled sprint specialists have a hard time getting over the mountains & finishing within the time limit for the stage.
Are we sure he didn’t shave himself? If I had muscles like that, I’d want to show them off.
SEFsays
He looks rather Caucasian, I think
I’d say he was nowhere near pale enough (though obviously not dark enough for the darkest of equatorial people). I’m not sure I’ve seen a human anywhere with quite that shade of skin. There’s usually a bit more yellow (fat?!) in human skin tones.
i went to the zoo yesterday and posted a picture. primates don’t have to be hairless to see the intense resemblance. just look into their eyes, or, if you can, interact with them.
Rorschachsays
Alopecia universalis in a chimpanzee.Looks…..different.Almost …human.
I have alway thought that more important than “bipedestation” and “encephalization” naked skin truly characterize humans. It’s a pity that the fossil record does not give us much information about the process of body hair loss. However, as a Mediterranean male I have not completed yet this evolutionary process.
Before I read the caption I was dumbfounded:
“How did my Dad manage to get his picture on Pharyngula???”.
John Moralessays
Looks more mauve than pink to me; looks ready for Uplift, too… or would that be immoral?
James Fsays
One of us might lose his hair
But you’re reminded that it once was there
From the embryonic whale
To the monkey with no tail
So the warm blood flows
With the red blood cells
Lacking nuclei
Through the large four-chambered heart
Maintaining the very high metabolism rate they have
Mammal, mammal
Their names are called
They raise a paw
The bat, the cat
Dolphin and dog
Koala bear and hog
Happy Tentaclessays
Bet he regrets volunteering to take part in ‘How to Look Good Naked’.
vitriolagesays
I don’t really understand why would this make anyone uncomfortable, unless they’re a fundie or something.
Lilly de Luresays
Poor guy looks almost bashful.
So would you if you woke up one morning looking that much like Duane T Gish!
Poor guy indeed – is this some sort of stress response and does anyone know if it’s curable?
Holbachsays
Bill Donohue, is that you? “Hey, who you calling names?”
Feynmaniacsays
I remember Dawkins writing that we are are just juvenile apes. We have many characteristics of young apes, such as less body hair and enlarged skulls. The process is called neoteny. If you look at pictures of baby chimpanzees the resemblance is just as obvious as the naked ape and much less creepy.
Jason Dicksays
I don’t really understand why would this make anyone uncomfortable, unless they’re a fundie or something.
Because he’s in a zoo.
Strangest brewsays
Fundyretardo attitude with regards to evolution….is displayed right there…no wonder they get all prudish and offended!
That is why the deluded make such utter fools out of themselves…the similarity is just to much for their sensibilities…they would have to admit that maybe creation as they like to boast is a crock of old codswollop…and if that is accepted then the rest of the literal crap is also fictious poppy cock.
Cos if their prat of a deity made man in said prat’s own image then god must look like a monkey…and they would be monkey’s following a supernatural monkey…that is just to much for the little dears…
All ID/Creationist mechanisations has that one premise to battle…and they are failing miserably…
All the irreducible complexity all the bogus lying false and misleading whining is all to do with that one fact…
That is the central nexus of their uncomfortable thought…they are just descended from a great grand daddy to the nth of both humans and that fellow with no hair…and what they really shit themselves over is that it really means that god is a figment of a twisted and severely stunted juvenile imagination…oh dear!…how sad!…never mind!
ISTsays
Feynmaniac> Gould goes on at length about neotony in Ontogeny and Phylogeny as well. I’ve not seen Dawkins commentary on it, although I’d like to if you can tell me where to look.
I find it both remarkable and unsurprising how similar his arms and shoulders are to ours. The chicken-skin at the elbows. The definition around the shoulders and biceps.
Joaosays
I wouldn’t trust the the apparent color of the chimpanzee. The entire color spectrum of picture seems to be shifted towards the pink/purple, as suggested by the purple colors of the exposed concrete in the wall and floor.
Psychodiggersays
I feel very sorry for this poor guy to be in a zoo, especially since it is so incredibly obvious that we and the other apes are so very, very similar. We really are (more or less, judging by the comments above) hairless apes. Fascinating in a very awe inspiring way. I’ve seen him compared to cyclists above, but as a rugby player, he reminds me a lot of some of the more muscular forwards I have shared scrums with, especially in the leg and buttocks.
The recently deceased chimp from the St. Louis Zoo had the same skin disease. You might be able to find pictures of her on google images; search for “Cinder”.
Major Tomsays
His name must be Jacob:
Alan Bennett (Beyond the Fringe),
“Take a Pew”
quoting the Bible (Gen 27:11):
Jacob answered his mother Rebekah,
“Behold, Esau my brother is a hairy man, but I am a smooth man.”
Lilly de Luresays
as a rugby player, he reminds me a lot of some of the more muscular forwards I have shared scrums with, especially in the leg and buttocks.
As a rugby fan the same thing did cross my mind. Maybe we should shave Sebastien Chabal and put a photo of him along side for comparison? ;)
As others have mentioned, the chimp probably suffered from alopecia universalis. Our St. Louis zoo just lost our favorite chimp, Cinder, who suffered from the same heriditory disease.
That´s exactly what I said to e colleague this afternoon! Apart from the oodles of evidence on evolution and all that, when looking at a photograph like this, who can possiblt say we are not related.
«bønez_brigade»says
@Joao [#61],
If only if were a sign of convergent evolution with traits of the cuttlefish…
Menyambalsays
He looks unhappy. He needs a hobby. According to the Kellogg cereal guy, monkeys learn to masturbate from “vile men and boys”. I don’t know the procedure, but if anybody is in the area, you might lend a hand.
«bønez_brigade»says
[*if* = *it*]
SEFsays
Cover up the face with your hand and show it to someone and I wonder if they can even tell it’s not a human body….
The prehensile feet and short legs vs long arms are a bit of a give-away.
Psychodiggersays
@ #66
I am moe than elated to find a fellow rugby enthousiast here. therefore i hope you do not take offence, but as a number 8 Chabal barely qualifies as a forward, although in all fairness, he also played as a lock for France (quand je juge votre nom de plume correctement, vous etes peut-etre Francais ou francophone. Si je suis correcte, j´espere que vous me pardonnez ce affront. Ce n´est pas parce-qu´il est Francais, mais parce-qu´il est un numero 8). whether he qualifies as a forward or not, he´s a bloody good rugby player, that´s for sure.
Ottosays
I think he could have played an orc in the Lord of the Rings.
Neilsays
Carlie #63-that is hilarious, but I had to click the “back” button veryfastaboutadozentimes to get back to pharyngula. My slow computer at work can only take so much clever.
Qwertysays
He looks a little sad just like I feel when the barber holds up that mirror and I can clearly see my male-pattern baldness.
Marysays
awwww, he just needs a hug.
LRAsays
Wow. What an incredible pic! Other than the face and the feet, he looks human.
Null Hypothesissays
The colour doesn’t look cooked to me. He looks like my grandad
Cyberguy says
Sad. Someone should give the poor old guy a blanket.
hje says
Sad yes, but he has more dignity than Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck.
Janine Of The Fixed Identity says
He was naked under his fur.
mythusmage says
Great muscle definition.
DaveX says
I saw this at BoingBoing– I was surprised at how many people were disgusted, freaked out, etc…
Kel says
Could all the troll mythology have stemmed from naked chimpanzees that liked to loiter under bridges? You know, because chimpanzees have fur in the same way that muslim women wear burkas…
Archaneus says
Seeing him furless like that makes it very clear how related we are to these guys.
Ichthyic says
The emperor’s new clothes?
SaintPaddy says
Calm down… It’s just Karl Pilkington.
Larry says
Trying to remember who that was that wrote “The Naked Ape”.
Was it Desmond Morris?? Just guessing.
Murray says
He looks more purple than pink on my screen. Is this some kind of chimpanzee alopecia?
Poor guy looks almost bashful.
TuxedoCartman says
Introducing Rogaine For Chimps!
mxh says
Yep.
Atheist Chaplain says
I feel like he looks some days, maybe we could get an Atheist knitting bee organised and nit that poor guy some jumpers :-)
Naked Bunny with a Whip says
Maybe he’s just wearing a skinsuit to the local HumanCon.
pcarini says
I heard about a similar case some time back and, iirc, it mentioned that the lack of fur also affected the poor chimp’s status. I’m not having any luck digging the source up at the moment though ;(
RossM says
He looks like he’s lost his Precious.
Aaron says
That’s such a great photo. I love the original commentary by the guest blogger on BB: “Hobbies include eating fruit and making humans feel deeply uncomfortable”.
I swear whenever I look at it out of the corner of my eye, I think it’s an old man.
Goldenmane says
Here’s a question: do chimps tan?
Meng Bomin says
I think that the Azeris, Armenians, Georgians, Ossetes, Abkhazians, and Chechens among others may object to this statement.
Jim Bob Cooter says
He look so sad, I want to give him a hug. After which he would tear my arms out of their sockets.
Bride of Shrek OM says
With those thighs I imagine he’d be a shoe-in for the hill sections of the Tour De France. I think he’s just gorgeous but I hope whatever is making him lose his hair isn’t nasty for the poor fellow.
Paper Hand says
Poor guy. :-( What happened to him?
Blue-eyed Videot says
I squint my eyes a wee bit and he bears an uncanny resemblance to Rodin’s The Thinker.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_Thinker_close.jpg
Bill from Dover says
Gribbit?
medinari says
I really want to know how he lost all of his hair, I’m not sure what could do that.
As for the pinkish skin, chimpanzees get darker skin as they get older, so this could just be a teenager whose reached adult size, but not all of the other characteristics. Also, some of the subspecies are considered to have darker skin/hair then others, as well as longer hair, etc.
pradeep says
I was born in Mysore, India and my wife lived only about a mile from this zoo. I wonder what caused this chimp to loose all of his hair, as this zoo is an excellent zoo in India. I wonder if some type of tropical mange caused all of the hair loss. But aside from that, the homologous morphology between this “naked” chimp and us startling once the hair is removed.
stewall says
OK; who’s been spying through my bathroom window while I was taking a ****
BlueIndependent says
I must say, without the hair he looks damn near human.
pcarini says
Or we look damn near like hairless chimps.
Noadi says
Without hair this chimp really drives home why we share 98% of our DNA.
Living in India he’s probably not too cold but I expect he’d be prone to sunburn and skin cancer. Wonder what caused the hairloss?
Menyambal says
I’m re-reading Dawkins’s The Ancestor’s Tale, and just passed the part where he discusses sexual selection as a factor in the development of hairlessness in humans. I really thought he had a good point.
Now, I’m not so sure.
Helioprogenus says
@#20, Meng Bonim,
As an Armenian, it’s getting tiring having to explain that being Caucasian has nothing to do with race, but everything to do with geography. So I appreciate your comments enlightening people on this situation.
Also, as a not-so-hairless Armenian, I must say that if I lost all my body hair like this poor Chimp, you would see the same sullen expression on my person. There are two different types of naked, and losing your body hair relegates you to the complete nakedness that I cannot fathom. It’s like shaving your fluffy dog and realizing how different he looks.
DrClown says
Mysore? Moar leik Eyesore.
SAWells says
I know that’s a distant cousin of ours, but without the fur he looks awfully like an ancestor. Strangely moving.
Richard Harris says
Bride of Shrek @ #22, With those thighs I imagine he’d be a shoe-in for the hill sections of the Tour De France.
No. He’d be better suited to a flat stage with a sprint finish, or, alternatively, track sprinting.
The mountain specialists have a wiry build. The well-muscled sprint specialists have a hard time getting over the mountains & finishing within the time limit for the stage.
Bone Oboe says
I’d run across this:http://www.blameitonthevoices.com/2008/02/bald-chimpanzee.html
a while ago, to be a different chimp.
http://www.belgraviacentre.com/blog/mysterious-death-of-bald-missouri-chimp-073/
Jeanette says
I’ve had dates with less goin’ for ’em.
Prof. Henry Armitage says
Are we sure he didn’t shave himself? If I had muscles like that, I’d want to show them off.
SEF says
I’d say he was nowhere near pale enough (though obviously not dark enough for the darkest of equatorial people). I’m not sure I’ve seen a human anywhere with quite that shade of skin. There’s usually a bit more yellow (fat?!) in human skin tones.
toomanytribbles says
i went to the zoo yesterday and posted a picture. primates don’t have to be hairless to see the intense resemblance. just look into their eyes, or, if you can, interact with them.
Rorschach says
Alopecia universalis in a chimpanzee.Looks…..different.Almost …human.
Didac Lopez-Martinez says
I have alway thought that more important than “bipedestation” and “encephalization” naked skin truly characterize humans. It’s a pity that the fossil record does not give us much information about the process of body hair loss. However, as a Mediterranean male I have not completed yet this evolutionary process.
Tony Sidaway says
A naked ape!
The resemblance to his first cousin, homo sapiens, is even more striking.
recovering catholic says
A built in butt cushion like he has would be really nice to have…
Peter B. says
Before I read the caption I was dumbfounded:
“How did my Dad manage to get his picture on Pharyngula???”.
John Morales says
Looks more mauve than pink to me; looks ready for Uplift, too… or would that be immoral?
James F says
One of us might lose his hair
But you’re reminded that it once was there
From the embryonic whale
To the monkey with no tail
So the warm blood flows
With the red blood cells
Lacking nuclei
Through the large four-chambered heart
Maintaining the very high metabolism rate they have
Mammal, mammal
Their names are called
They raise a paw
The bat, the cat
Dolphin and dog
Koala bear and hog
Happy Tentacles says
Bet he regrets volunteering to take part in ‘How to Look Good Naked’.
vitriolage says
I don’t really understand why would this make anyone uncomfortable, unless they’re a fundie or something.
Lilly de Lure says
So would you if you woke up one morning looking that much like Duane T Gish!
Poor guy indeed – is this some sort of stress response and does anyone know if it’s curable?
Holbach says
Bill Donohue, is that you? “Hey, who you calling names?”
Feynmaniac says
I remember Dawkins writing that we are are just juvenile apes. We have many characteristics of young apes, such as less body hair and enlarged skulls. The process is called neoteny. If you look at pictures of baby chimpanzees the resemblance is just as obvious as the naked ape and much less creepy.
Jason Dick says
Because he’s in a zoo.
Strangest brew says
Fundyretardo attitude with regards to evolution….is displayed right there…no wonder they get all prudish and offended!
That is why the deluded make such utter fools out of themselves…the similarity is just to much for their sensibilities…they would have to admit that maybe creation as they like to boast is a crock of old codswollop…and if that is accepted then the rest of the literal crap is also fictious poppy cock.
Cos if their prat of a deity made man in said prat’s own image then god must look like a monkey…and they would be monkey’s following a supernatural monkey…that is just to much for the little dears…
All ID/Creationist mechanisations has that one premise to battle…and they are failing miserably…
All the irreducible complexity all the bogus lying false and misleading whining is all to do with that one fact…
That is the central nexus of their uncomfortable thought…they are just descended from a great grand daddy to the nth of both humans and that fellow with no hair…and what they really shit themselves over is that it really means that god is a figment of a twisted and severely stunted juvenile imagination…oh dear!…how sad!…never mind!
IST says
Feynmaniac> Gould goes on at length about neotony in Ontogeny and Phylogeny as well. I’ve not seen Dawkins commentary on it, although I’d like to if you can tell me where to look.
blueshifter says
another hairless chimp, with more pics:
http://www.odditycentral.com/pics/ashes-the-hairless-monkey.html
Jeff S says
I wish I could say this was the only chimp with less hair than me.
sizzzzlerz says
Kind of looks like Gollum of LOTR
MosesZD says
I find it both remarkable and unsurprising how similar his arms and shoulders are to ours. The chicken-skin at the elbows. The definition around the shoulders and biceps.
Joao says
I wouldn’t trust the the apparent color of the chimpanzee. The entire color spectrum of picture seems to be shifted towards the pink/purple, as suggested by the purple colors of the exposed concrete in the wall and floor.
Psychodigger says
I feel very sorry for this poor guy to be in a zoo, especially since it is so incredibly obvious that we and the other apes are so very, very similar. We really are (more or less, judging by the comments above) hairless apes. Fascinating in a very awe inspiring way. I’ve seen him compared to cyclists above, but as a rugby player, he reminds me a lot of some of the more muscular forwards I have shared scrums with, especially in the leg and buttocks.
Carlie says
Ooo, I’ve been dying to use this.
Larry #10 – Let me Google that for you. :)
moneduloides says
The recently deceased chimp from the St. Louis Zoo had the same skin disease. You might be able to find pictures of her on google images; search for “Cinder”.
Major Tom says
His name must be Jacob:
Alan Bennett (Beyond the Fringe),
“Take a Pew”
quoting the Bible (Gen 27:11):
Jacob answered his mother Rebekah,
“Behold, Esau my brother is a hairy man, but I am a smooth man.”
Lilly de Lure says
As a rugby fan the same thing did cross my mind. Maybe we should shave Sebastien Chabal and put a photo of him along side for comparison? ;)
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44078000/jpg/_44078163_sebastien_chabal_416.jpg
withheld says
Dad?
catgirl says
Does anyone know why he lost all his fur?
Michael Fonda says
Frankly, he looks like me after I’ve been drinking.
PeterKarim says
Another hairless chimp here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bodybuilderchimp.jpg
Bodybuilder ? Hmm sure does not seem need to take injections of testosterone.
Feynmaniac says
IST
Oooh, gotta check that out.
I don’t have the book with me right now, but I’m pretty sure it’s discussed in The Ancestor’s Tale. A long, but enjoyable book.
JJR says
Cover up the face with your hand and show it to someone and I wonder if they can even tell it’s not a human body….
Deiloh says
Without the face, really striking. How the heck did the guy go bald?
Shelley says
As others have mentioned, the chimp probably suffered from alopecia universalis. Our St. Louis zoo just lost our favorite chimp, Cinder, who suffered from the same heriditory disease.
Here’s a photo of her:
http://shelleypowers.burningbird.net/reflections/rip-thinker
Shelley says
Sorry, make that hereditary. Typo.
Psychodigger says
@#72
That´s exactly what I said to e colleague this afternoon! Apart from the oodles of evidence on evolution and all that, when looking at a photograph like this, who can possiblt say we are not related.
«bønez_brigade» says
@Joao [#61],
If only if were a sign of convergent evolution with traits of the cuttlefish…
Menyambal says
He looks unhappy. He needs a hobby. According to the Kellogg cereal guy, monkeys learn to masturbate from “vile men and boys”. I don’t know the procedure, but if anybody is in the area, you might lend a hand.
«bønez_brigade» says
[*if* = *it*]
SEF says
The prehensile feet and short legs vs long arms are a bit of a give-away.
Psychodigger says
@ #66
I am moe than elated to find a fellow rugby enthousiast here. therefore i hope you do not take offence, but as a number 8 Chabal barely qualifies as a forward, although in all fairness, he also played as a lock for France (quand je juge votre nom de plume correctement, vous etes peut-etre Francais ou francophone. Si je suis correcte, j´espere que vous me pardonnez ce affront. Ce n´est pas parce-qu´il est Francais, mais parce-qu´il est un numero 8). whether he qualifies as a forward or not, he´s a bloody good rugby player, that´s for sure.
Otto says
I think he could have played an orc in the Lord of the Rings.
Neil says
Carlie #63-that is hilarious, but I had to click the “back” button veryfastaboutadozentimes to get back to pharyngula. My slow computer at work can only take so much clever.
Qwerty says
He looks a little sad just like I feel when the barber holds up that mirror and I can clearly see my male-pattern baldness.
Mary says
awwww, he just needs a hug.
LRA says
Wow. What an incredible pic! Other than the face and the feet, he looks human.
Null Hypothesis says
The colour doesn’t look cooked to me. He looks like my grandad