Are you a scientist? Are you named Steve or Stephanie?
Then you should sign up for the Steve list. They’re trying to get 900 qualified evolution supporters with names that are variants of “Steven” — I think they should aim for a nice round one thousand.
They could, maybe, make a list of biologists who oppose the flim-flam of anti-evolution–it is the list that matters. The Steve list has been more or less done to death, IMO.
So, once we’ve done the Steves, let’s move on to the Richards, the Pauls, the Michaels, the Dans…
sjburntsays
Rats. I was well on my way to registering when the rules changed from “having a doctoral degree” to “scientist”.
Why on earth would they disallow the juris doctorates?
(Go ahead, I deserve the lashings I am gonna get for this.)
;)
SCsays
So, once we’ve done the Steves, let’s move on to the Richards, the Pauls, the Michaels, the Dans…
Or the Lisas, the Barbaras, the Abbies, the Rebeccas,…
Lee Pictonsays
I think some have misunderstood. The Steve list has been around for awhile but a round 900 are wanted in time for the Year of Darwin; something about slogans and T-shirts, and NCSE is about five names short, I think.
Sven DiMilosays
…the Svantes, the Anderses, the Nicoles…
and, here’s an excuse to mention my all-time favorite name of a real biologist. (She’s good, too; studies lungfish physiology and publishes well).
kermitsays
SC@15
So, once we’ve done the Steves, let’s move on to the Richards, the Pauls, the Michaels, the Dans…
Or the Lisas, the Barbaras, the Abbies, the Rebeccas,…
No, the first batch of lists would include the Stephanies, the umm, Richardines, The Paulines, the Michelles, etc.
The Steve list includes quite a few females – Steven or variations of Steven.
SCsays
and, here’s an excuse to mention my all-time favorite name of a real biologist.
Oh, the poor dear. Hope she has a good sense of humor.
NCSE has been exhorted by its members to compile a list of thousands of scientists affirming the validity of the theory of evolution, but although we easily could have done so, we have resisted such pressure. We did not wish to mislead the public into thinking that scientific issues are decided by who has the longer list of scientists!
From the FAQ:
Is NCSE going to circulate a similar statement for Janes, Johns, and so on?
No. It’s only funny once.
Thanks for the link, PZ. We’re definitely hoping to get to the big 1K, but we’ll print “Over 900…” shirts first. Some of our Steves have been waiting a long time for theirs.
SCsays
No, the first batch of lists would include the Stephanies, the umm, Richardines, The Paulines, the Michelles, etc.
The Steve list includes quite a few females – Steven or variations of Steven.
I’m aware of that. Perhaps some women aren’t thrilled at being variations on male theme in efforts called things like “The Steve Project.” Richardines?
Rey Foxsays
“It’s not humorless to suggest that the same decade-old one not continue to be told.”
Of course it is, humor never ceases to be funny! Like all those catchphrases that circulate here endlessly! Slut! Cephalopods! Ilk! Trophy wife! They never ever cease to be funny!
Speaking as a Steve on the list (and living in Kansas, to boot). My understanding was that this was intended as a tongue-in-cheek response to The Discovery Institute’s “Scientific Dissent From Darwinism” list.
The reasoning went along the lines of – we could put together a list of all the scientists who consider evolution to be a proper scientific theory, but that list would get very big, very fast, so how about limiting it to a single name. “Stephen” (and variations thereon) was chosen to honor Stephen Jay Gould.
Stephen (NCSE Steve #598)
Bill Dauphinsays
Wish I could participate.
What, you mean Sven isn’t Swedish1 for Stephen?
1 Please forgive me if I’ve guessed the wrong Scandinavian heritage for you (or if I’m wrong in attributing any Scandinavian heritage to you).
Sven DiMilosays
I’m Swedish all right–half, anyway–and so’s “Sven,” but alas, ’tis a nom de net. My real monicker’s not even close to qualiying.
Qwertysays
I am neither a scientist nor a Steve, but I am sure that there are enough to hit the 1,000 mark. It sure makes the few hundred that support ID look foolish.
Alcarisays
Thanks for the link, PZ. We’re definitely hoping to get to the big 1K, but we’ll print “Over 900…” shirts first. Some of our Steves have been waiting a long time for theirs.
Shouldn’t those be “Over 9000!!!” shirts?
SCsays
“Stephen” (and variations thereon) was chosen to honor Stephen Jay Gould.
Ah. Well, that makes sense, then. Carry on.
/steps down off soapbox
windy, OMsays
Sven is not from Stephen, it’s an ancient word for young man or male virgin…
Bill Dauphinsays
Sven is not from Stephen
I didn’t actually think it was; I was joking… though obviously not obviously enough. (Note to self: Lay in supply of emoticons!)
windy, OMsays
I guessed you were joking, but couldn’t resist commenting on the linguistic aspect anyway… I think David Marjanović has been a bad influence on me!
Sven DiMilosays
Sven is…an ancient word for young man or male virgin
Then they get the Steve list all mixed up with the Adam list, and suddenly they’re propounding the Adam and Steve theory of human creation.
SCsays
Sven is not from Stephen, it’s an ancient word for young man or male virgin…
*notes for future mockage*
I think David Marjanović has been a bad influence on me!
A good influence! I love those comments!
Owlmirrorsays
Interestingly, “sveinn”, from which “Sven” derives, is also the source of “swain”, as in a lover (and not a fighter?). Although there is also a cognate with “swan”, a shepherd or pigherder; a farm laborer.
A long-time lurker on this blog (great blog, by the way), I finally decided to comment after seeing this post.
I’m a Steve on the list, I have the T-shirt, and in fact here’s a photo of me modelling said fashion item next to the grave of Alfred Russell Wallace, co-discoverer of evolution, in my home town of Broadstone, Dorset, U.K.
From Wiki,
We (or NCSE) should not forget the other forms of “Steve”
Stepan – Russian, Czech,
Esteban – spanish
Estéfano – portuguese
Kepano – Hawaiian
Etienne (really?) – French
Istefanos – Turkish (any biologists left in Turkey?)
Stefan – Swedish
スティーブン、スティーブ – Japanese
and of course ஸடீபன் for our Tamilese biologists
windy, OMsays
Huh. Coupla problems here, Houston…
Noted, in case I ever get around to starting “Project Sven”* ;)
*that is, collecting names and addresses of virginal male biologists for unstated, possibly sinister purposes
this isn’t the first time I’ve wished my name was steve…
come to think of it, i don’t even have my phD yet. time to go somewhere else to put myself on a list :(
Engineers Named Alan (with one goddamned ‘l’)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-#1 – nanoAl <——thats me!
Black Centaursays
Woo Hoo!
I’m a Dr Steve and I’m a scientist.
I’ve just signed up.
God! it’s been 8 years since I even looked at my thesis and I think I could still write the abstract from memory!
Old joke? First I’ve heard of it. It’s funny because it’s completely bizarre.
These are the Steves I know I know, these are the Steves I know. These are the Steves I know I know, these are the Steves I know. Some of them are Steven, but most of them are Steve. They all have their own hands but they come from different moms.
If only my name was Steve instead of Kel… and computer science counted.
Kseniyasays
Project Kseniya is alive and well. Working on double-digit membership, even as we speak.
I always figured “Sven DiMilo” was a good-looking, though armless, love god.
Sven DiMilosays
You’re about 33% correct.
And I have arms.
Kseniyasays
You mean not a masculinized quasi-anagram of Venus [DiMilo]?
Owlmirrorsays
And I have arms.
As a non-cephalopod, are you not mostly ‘armless?
Ow. I think I sprained something there….
Sven DiMilosays
Oh, I’ve got tentacle envy for sure.
And yes, my fictive middle initial is U.
But enough about me…anybody here namned Steve?
David Marjanović, OMsays
I guessed you were joking, but couldn’t resist commenting on the linguistic aspect anyway… I think David Marjanović has been a bad influence on me!
Come, come to the dork side of the farce.
(Not my idea.)
[É]tienne (really?) – French
YA RLY. Es became é a couple of hundred years ago, and the p –> b –> v must have disappeared sometime.
Though all this is so little obvious that people tend to be named Stéphane nowadays. The female form, historically Étiennette, was replaced by Stéphanie longer ago.
[İ]stefanos – Turkish (any biologists left in Turkey?)
Maybe, but that’s a Christian name. Turkish-speaking Christians are very rare.
negentropyeatersays
Etienne (really?) – French
Etienne is not much in use nowadays. Stephane is much more frequent.
There is some confusion about who qualifies. The list was initially focused to biologists and other scientific fields connected to evolution. However, from looking at the list in its current form, there are plenty of people from the humanities on it.
Steve Sauvesays
Well, I don’t have my PhD just yet…
Damn.
James Fsays
I personally recruited three Steves to the list, I’ll see if I can find some more….
commissarjssays
Sadly I’m an engineer with the middle name of Stephen. Close but no cigar.
(smug on) I’ve been on the list for a few years now and have already worn out my second T-shirt. Even better than the T-shirt is the publication “The Morphology of Steve” (Annals of Improbable Research, July-August 2004). Being a co-author of a paper along with two Nobel Laureates plus Stephen Hawking makes for great bragging*.(smug off)
*If only I could achieve that with a ‘real’ paper.
Zarquonsays
When the list reaches nine billion, one by one the stars go out and the universe ends…
Stevesays
I’m a Steve and a PhD, but it’s in accounting. Not sure if that would qualify as related to biology.
revertedsays
Yeah, but there may be a silver-lining around that cloud, Zarquon!
drew says
I thought NCSE did this already. I’m almost certain I heard Eugenie Scott talking about this in a presentation.
Glen Davidson says
They could, maybe, make a list of biologists who oppose the flim-flam of anti-evolution–it is the list that matters. The Steve list has been more or less done to death, IMO.
Glen D
http://tinyurl.com/2kxyc7
Sven DiMilo says
It’s not that they already did it…it’s that they’re still doing it.
Wish I could participate.
Drew says
Ahh I see now
Rev. BigDumbChimp, KoT says
Same one.
Geo-Steve says
too bad being in a PhD program doesn’t count…. maybe in a few years…
Sven DiMilo says
You mean, a list of biologists, period? You’re pretty humorless sometimes, Glen. It’s funny this way.
Glen Davidson says
Um, jokes get old.
It’s not humorless to suggest that the same decade-old one not continue to be told.
Glen D
http://tinyurl.com/2kxyc7
Brett Samsen says
We should badger Stephen Colbert to join the list. After all, he does have an honorary PhD from Knox College…
Sven DiMilo says
Humor’s in the eye of the beholder, I guess. Hell, I still get a grin out of “Who’s on first?”
I am so wise says
Has anyone given Steve Fuller a call? He’s even better than a scientist, he’s a philosopher of science.
Luke says
First I’ve heard of this. Made me chuckle.
Tony "Steve" Sidaway says
So, once we’ve done the Steves, let’s move on to the Richards, the Pauls, the Michaels, the Dans…
sjburnt says
Rats. I was well on my way to registering when the rules changed from “having a doctoral degree” to “scientist”.
Why on earth would they disallow the juris doctorates?
(Go ahead, I deserve the lashings I am gonna get for this.)
;)
SC says
So, once we’ve done the Steves, let’s move on to the Richards, the Pauls, the Michaels, the Dans…
Or the Lisas, the Barbaras, the Abbies, the Rebeccas,…
Lee Picton says
I think some have misunderstood. The Steve list has been around for awhile but a round 900 are wanted in time for the Year of Darwin; something about slogans and T-shirts, and NCSE is about five names short, I think.
Sven DiMilo says
…the Svantes, the Anderses, the Nicoles…
and, here’s an excuse to mention my all-time favorite name of a real biologist. (She’s good, too; studies lungfish physiology and publishes well).
kermit says
SC@15
No, the first batch of lists would include the Stephanies, the umm, Richardines, The Paulines, the Michelles, etc.
The Steve list includes quite a few females – Steven or variations of Steven.
SC says
Oh, the poor dear. Hope she has a good sense of humor.
Carrie says
From the Project Steve introduction page:
From the FAQ:
Thanks for the link, PZ. We’re definitely hoping to get to the big 1K, but we’ll print “Over 900…” shirts first. Some of our Steves have been waiting a long time for theirs.
SC says
No, the first batch of lists would include the Stephanies, the umm, Richardines, The Paulines, the Michelles, etc.
The Steve list includes quite a few females – Steven or variations of Steven.
I’m aware of that. Perhaps some women aren’t thrilled at being variations on male theme in efforts called things like “The Steve Project.” Richardines?
Rey Fox says
“It’s not humorless to suggest that the same decade-old one not continue to be told.”
Of course it is, humor never ceases to be funny! Like all those catchphrases that circulate here endlessly! Slut! Cephalopods! Ilk! Trophy wife! They never ever cease to be funny!
catta says
Sarcasm, on the other hand, gets old pretty fast.
Tony Sidaway says
Lee Picton | September 8, 2008 1:20 PM #16
I think some have misunderstood. The Steve list has been around for awhile but a round 900 are wanted in time for the Year of Darwin
And if they don’t get 900, they will have failed proving that evolution is false!
Eric says
Is this old news?
Biologists on the Verge of Creating New Form of Life
http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/09/biologists-on-t.html
Stephen Johnson says
Speaking as a Steve on the list (and living in Kansas, to boot). My understanding was that this was intended as a tongue-in-cheek response to The Discovery Institute’s “Scientific Dissent From Darwinism” list.
The reasoning went along the lines of – we could put together a list of all the scientists who consider evolution to be a proper scientific theory, but that list would get very big, very fast, so how about limiting it to a single name. “Stephen” (and variations thereon) was chosen to honor Stephen Jay Gould.
Stephen (NCSE Steve #598)
Bill Dauphin says
What, you mean Sven isn’t Swedish1 for Stephen?
1 Please forgive me if I’ve guessed the wrong Scandinavian heritage for you (or if I’m wrong in attributing any Scandinavian heritage to you).
Sven DiMilo says
I’m Swedish all right–half, anyway–and so’s “Sven,” but alas, ’tis a nom de net. My real monicker’s not even close to qualiying.
Qwerty says
I am neither a scientist nor a Steve, but I am sure that there are enough to hit the 1,000 mark. It sure makes the few hundred that support ID look foolish.
Alcari says
Thanks for the link, PZ. We’re definitely hoping to get to the big 1K, but we’ll print “Over 900…” shirts first. Some of our Steves have been waiting a long time for theirs.
Shouldn’t those be “Over 9000!!!” shirts?
SC says
“Stephen” (and variations thereon) was chosen to honor Stephen Jay Gould.
Ah. Well, that makes sense, then. Carry on.
/steps down off soapbox
windy, OM says
Sven is not from Stephen, it’s an ancient word for young man or male virgin…
Bill Dauphin says
I didn’t actually think it was; I was joking… though obviously not obviously enough. (Note to self: Lay in supply of emoticons!)
windy, OM says
I guessed you were joking, but couldn’t resist commenting on the linguistic aspect anyway… I think David Marjanović has been a bad influence on me!
Sven DiMilo says
Huh. Coupla problems here, Houston…
The Chemist says
Then they get the Steve list all mixed up with the Adam list, and suddenly they’re propounding the Adam and Steve theory of human creation.
SC says
*notes for future mockage*
A good influence! I love those comments!
Owlmirror says
Interestingly, “sveinn”, from which “Sven” derives, is also the source of “swain”, as in a lover (and not a fighter?). Although there is also a cognate with “swan”, a shepherd or pigherder; a farm laborer.
Steve Sque says
A long-time lurker on this blog (great blog, by the way), I finally decided to comment after seeing this post.
I’m a Steve on the list, I have the T-shirt, and in fact here’s a photo of me modelling said fashion item next to the grave of Alfred Russell Wallace, co-discoverer of evolution, in my home town of Broadstone, Dorset, U.K.
Copernic says
From Wiki,
We (or NCSE) should not forget the other forms of “Steve”
Stepan – Russian, Czech,
Esteban – spanish
Estéfano – portuguese
Kepano – Hawaiian
Etienne (really?) – French
Istefanos – Turkish (any biologists left in Turkey?)
Stefan – Swedish
スティーブン、スティーブ – Japanese
and of course ஸடீபன் for our Tamilese biologists
windy, OM says
Noted, in case I ever get around to starting “Project Sven”* ;)
*that is, collecting names and addresses of virginal male biologists for unstated, possibly sinister purposes
Bill Dauphin says
Copernic (@40):
What? No Klingon?
Raynfala says
Alcari (@30)
“What 9000?”
Reginald Selkirk says
Scott hatfield attends heretics barbecue
Stephanie says
That’s a shame. I need a couple more years for a Ph.D!
Cris says
Reminds me of Bruce McCulloch’s song. “These are the Daves I know, I know, these are the Daves I know.”
Steve_C says
NO. YES. DAMN.
nanoAl says
this isn’t the first time I’ve wished my name was steve…
come to think of it, i don’t even have my phD yet. time to go somewhere else to put myself on a list :(
Black Centaur says
Woo Hoo!
I’m a Dr Steve and I’m a scientist.
I’ve just signed up.
God! it’s been 8 years since I even looked at my thesis and I think I could still write the abstract from memory!
Doubting Foo says
Does “computer scientist” qualify me?
I also stayed at a Holiday Inn Express recently.
Dark Jaguar says
Old joke? First I’ve heard of it. It’s funny because it’s completely bizarre.
These are the Steves I know I know, these are the Steves I know. These are the Steves I know I know, these are the Steves I know. Some of them are Steven, but most of them are Steve. They all have their own hands but they come from different moms.
Kel says
If only my name was Steve instead of Kel… and computer science counted.
Kseniya says
Project Kseniya is alive and well. Working on double-digit membership, even as we speak.
I always figured “Sven DiMilo” was a good-looking, though armless, love god.
Sven DiMilo says
You’re about 33% correct.
And I have arms.
Kseniya says
You mean not a masculinized quasi-anagram of Venus [DiMilo]?
Owlmirror says
As a non-cephalopod, are you not mostly ‘armless?
Ow. I think I sprained something there….
Sven DiMilo says
Oh, I’ve got tentacle envy for sure.
And yes, my fictive middle initial is U.
But enough about me…anybody here namned Steve?
David Marjanović, OM says
Come, come to the dork side of the farce.
(Not my idea.)
YA RLY. Es became é a couple of hundred years ago, and the p –> b –> v must have disappeared sometime.
Though all this is so little obvious that people tend to be named Stéphane nowadays. The female form, historically Étiennette, was replaced by Stéphanie longer ago.
Maybe, but that’s a Christian name. Turkish-speaking Christians are very rare.
negentropyeater says
Etienne is not much in use nowadays.
Stephane is much more frequent.
negentropyeater says
sorry, cross-post
Reed A. Cartwright says
There is some confusion about who qualifies. The list was initially focused to biologists and other scientific fields connected to evolution. However, from looking at the list in its current form, there are plenty of people from the humanities on it.
Steve Sauve says
Well, I don’t have my PhD just yet…
Damn.
James F says
I personally recruited three Steves to the list, I’ll see if I can find some more….
commissarjs says
Sadly I’m an engineer with the middle name of Stephen. Close but no cigar.
Bueller007 says
They reached 900 three days ago.
Here’s the press release.
http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/news/2008/ZZ/222_project_steve_n__900_9_5_2008.asp
Steve Norley says
(smug on) I’ve been on the list for a few years now and have already worn out my second T-shirt. Even better than the T-shirt is the publication “The Morphology of Steve” (Annals of Improbable Research, July-August 2004). Being a co-author of a paper along with two Nobel Laureates plus Stephen Hawking makes for great bragging*.(smug off)
*If only I could achieve that with a ‘real’ paper.
Zarquon says
When the list reaches nine billion, one by one the stars go out and the universe ends…
Steve says
I’m a Steve and a PhD, but it’s in accounting. Not sure if that would qualify as related to biology.
reverted says
Yeah, but there may be a silver-lining around that cloud, Zarquon!
Read Asimov’s short story, The Last Question. hehe ;)
Glenn Branch says
The Steveometer is now at 930. Keep those Steves coming!