Hmm.
Roisin O’Connor asks in the Independent
Why do we reduce a woman’s work to whether it’s feminist or not?
Eh? First of all, “we” don’t. Hating on feminism is a thriving business (and an even more thriving hobby). Second, even among people who do see things from a feminist point of view, very few of them “reduce a woman’s work to whether it’s feminist or not.” That rhetorical question is sort of like asking “why do we force-feed children stale Raisin Bran?” It assumes facts not in evidence, and it’s kind of random.
It comes at the end of a piece explaining why a new video about torturing and murdering a woman is a great thing.
drken says
When people say “there was no fuss back when…” they tend to conveniently forget that those who did complain about it were either ignored, or shouted down with accusations of “feminazi” and being “Politically Correct”. For example, It’s great that people now see the rape scene in Revenge of the Nerds as an actual rape, but let’s not forget that when the movie came out, those who called them out on it weren’t taken very seriously. Also, those who called Eddie Murphy’s “Raw” homophobic were told to get a sense of humor. Yet somehow it’s now mainstream to point how dated it now seems. Also, Al Jolson, etc.
LykeX says
I can’t help but associate this post with this comment:
Not all depictions of violence are equal. It’s entirely possible for two videos to depict exactly the same act and yet send entirely different messages.
L.A. Julian says
Plenty of people complained about Sin City’s sexism — somwhow O’Connor missed it all.
And the woman victim is just a means to get at Rihanna’s “real” enemy, the (male) accountant — which pushes it into classic “fridging” territory. (Based, I am told, on a real feud with a accountant she blames for losing her a fortune — so possibly a case of threatening, but definitely not feminist in blaming/punishing a man’s girlfriend to get back at him, even if only symbolically. Why not a “Goodbye Earl” type video punishing the male offender, instead of sexualized violence against his innocent female partner?)
Ophelia Benson says
drken @ 1 – that too, yes. I’ve been making a “fuss” about that kind of thing for decades. It was never what one would call a majority view, and it still isn’t.
footface says
It’s true. I don’t remember Facebook or Twitter blowing up about “From Dusk Til Dawn” when it came out. In 1996. Years before Facebook and Twitter existed.
“Making a fuss” and “calling something out” and “getting together to condemn” looked a lot different back then.
S Mukherjee says
So now we can’t even criticise someone for making a violent video showing torture and abuse of a woman? Sometimes I just despair.
Sea Monster says
I hate it when people use ‘we’ as a weasel-word. They use ‘we’ when they mean ‘you (all)’.
Ophelia Benson says
S Mukherjee @ 6 – well we can…unless it’s Rihanna.
marcus says
But… but…,
MONEY!
Michael Brew says
Well, you know what they say about having money and screwing the rules.