So much ugly. It’s the Torygraph, so whaddayouexpect, but all the same – the bluntness is a little surprising. Dan Bell says We must stop indoctrinating boys in feminist ideology.
On Wednesday, the Daily Mail reported that a school in Oxford has become the first to introduce “Good Lad” workshops, in which boys are singled out for sessions that teach them about “the scale of sexual harassment and violence aimed at female students” and how they must stand up for women’s rights.
The workshops are the latest in a mushrooming series of initiatives in which ideologically-driven activists are being invited into schools, driven by the belief that boys need to be re-educated to prevent them from becoming a threat to women.
And? Boys shouldn’t be taught not to harass or attack girls?
Another organisation, A Call to Men UK, also goes into schools, stating on its website: “A CALL TO MEN UK believes that preventing violence against women and girls is primarily the responsibility of men. We re-educate through trainings (sic), workshops, presentations, school projects and community initiatives.”
And yet another, the Great Men Value Women project, frames its mission as about helping young men, but it’s also driven by the belief that young men need to be re-educated as feminists – not just for their own good, but for women’s too.
And? Boys shouldn’t be taught things that benefit women as well as men?
What kind of sick worldview does this guy have, that he finds it shocking to see children taught to act for the good of others as well as themselves?
[S]ince when was it acceptable to impose ideology on school children? And for that matter, would we ever dare to suggest school girls ought to be taught that Great Women Value Men?
Uh…yes? Every second of every day? We’re all taught from birth that the important valuable complicated interesting people are all men. And if he thinks school girls are not taught that they have to value men…jumping jesus is he ever out of touch.
In March, the Government announced the introduction of new consent classes for children aged as young as 11. The plans were launched on International Women’s Day and the PSHE guidelines repeatedly state they are primarily part of the Government’s A Call to End Violence Against Women and Girls strategy.
According to a “Fact Sheet” published by one of the guidelines’ key contributors, a top priority for the lessons is “challenging notions of male sexual entitlement” and the lessons should be seen “in the context of a society in which gender inequality is the norm… and girls and young women are subjected to high levels of harassment, abuse and violence – overwhelmingly from men and boys they know”.
And? Has Dan Bell not looked at the culture lately?
And the indoctrination doesn’t stop when a boy leaves school, it continues when he gets to university too – the “Good Lad” workshops in Oxford, are in fact a spin-off from compulsory consent classes for new male students that are now springing up across UK universities.
And? Male students shouldn’t be taught that consent is not optional?
What impact must all this be having on boys and young men, who are themselves at one of the most vulnerable stages of their lives? Last year, insideMAN published findings of a focus group of young male students, which gave a disturbing glimpse into the ideological classroom climate faced by boys, this time told by young men themselves.
They told us that when it came to expressing any view that contradicted feminist orthodoxy, they were shouted at and publicly humiliated. They said their motives routinely came under immediate suspicion simply on account of their gender. And they said they wanted to be protected against fundamentalism by prominent and leading figures in the campaign for gender equality.
In other words they want to go on being dominant. Well people who have had a place high up in the hierarchy usually do want to go on having it, because there are a lot of perks attached to having it. Sadly for them, people lower down have their wants too. That’s life.
Dan Bell is the Features Editor at insideMAN magazine
Oh is he. I see what I’ll be doing for the next little while.
‘They told us that when it came to expressing any view that contradicted feminist orthodoxy, they were shouted at and publicly humiliated.’
Pics or it didn’t happen.
There’s feminist orthodoxy now?
Feminism: ideology.
(/Misogyny: SOP.)
‘They told us that when it came to expressing any view that contradicted feminist orthodoxy, they were shouted at and publicly humiliated.’
This sounds suspiciously like the aggressively hostile atheist professor character in that fundagelical movie “God’s Not Dead.” In other words, a blatant strawman.
Oh, the poor dears, to find themselves in such an unfriendly and hostile environment! Why, it’s almost as if THEY’re the “girls” now!
I looked up Good Lad workshops and found this link:
https://goodladworkshop.wordpress.com/about/
“Workshops are an hour long. Their focus is a series of scenarios developed from real life situations. We believe the scenarios involve difficult issues where there are not necessarily clear answers and are, therefore, genuinely worthy of reflection. Ultimately, our aim is not to tell any man what to do, but to equip them with a powerful, alternative framework to analyse complex gender situations.” It sounds like they are trying to find ways of educating men without shaming them
“We don’t know who discovered water, but we’re pretty sure it wasn’t a fish.”
(A quotation which has a more complicated origin than I thought.)
Dan Bell is a fish, and not a terribly observant or introspective one.
Can a one hour ‘class’ deprogram the junior-rapists? How to undo the avalanche of indoctrination the boys have ALREADY received.?
Not an adherent of Buddhism, but “Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter… and Spring” may help make the case for education of boys in this context.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring,_Summer,_Fall,_Winter…_and_Spring
Sounds good to me. I think boys want to know how to be the good guys. The idea of being a stand-up guy, honorable, dependable, and proud, is very appealing.
Yet more of those pesky irregular phrasal verbs:
I promote British values to young people.
You indoctrinate children with your ideology.
I can’t even… “Equality” is an all-or-nothing proposition: if you are not equal, then you are unequal. What possible meaning could “fundamentalism” have here? He’s just complaining about having an equality movement at all, yes?