Another cardinal shares his wisdom with us.
A leading Vatican cardinal has given an interview in which he says parents should not allow their children to have contact with gay people who engage in ‘wrong, evil’ and ‘intrinsically disordered’ relationships.
This is how religion fucks people up. They obsess over completely wrong, empty, arbitrary, meaningless categories of “wrong” while ignoring or protecting or promoting actual harms. There just isn’t anything “wrong” or “evil” or “intrinsically disordered” about same-sex relationships. There just isn’t. There never has been. It’s a made-up thing.
Also? I know I’ve said this a million times – but the cardinal is a high-up in an organization that has been protecting people who rape children for many decades – probably its entire history, in fact.
It also has a recent history of stealing unmarried women’s babies to sell, and lying to the women about what happened to those babies. There’s “evil” if you like.
Cardinal Raymond Burke’s comments come during Pope Francis’ Synod of the Family in Rome, in which senior catholic figures have gathered from around the world to discuss family issues, including same-sex marriage.
Why? What business is it of theirs? What do they know about it?
Now, Burke – the former Archbishop of St Louis who now has the title of Cardinal Prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura – has indicated that he feels children should be kept away from gay couples.
Playing the role of ecclesiastical agony uncle, Burke was asked by the website LifeSiteNews, ‘How should Catholic parents deal with a difficult situation like this? When planning a Christmas family gathering with grandchildren present, parents are asked by their son, who is in a homosexual relationship, if he can come and bring home with him his homosexual partner.’
‘This is a very delicate question, made more delicate by the aggressiveness of the homosexual agenda,’ replied Burke.
Ah yes, so unlike the mild timidity of the Catholic agenda. All the Catholic church wants is to tell everyone to obey its stupid arbitrary life-hating rules.
‘If homosexual relationships are intrinsically disordered, which indeed they are … then what would it mean to grandchildren to have present at a family gathering a family member who is living [in] a disordered relationship with another person?
‘If it were another kind of relationship – something that was profoundly disordered and harmful – we wouldn’t expose our children to that relationship, to the direct experience of it.
Stupid, ignorant, empty-of-meaning garbage.
‘And neither should we do it in the context of a family member who not only suffers from same-sex attraction, but who has chosen to live out that attraction, to act upon it, committing acts which are always and everywhere wrong, evil.’
Even worse. Bordering on genocidal. The stuff he says is evil, not the people he says it about or their relationships or their sexual activities.
He might be a decent human being if he weren’t a Catholic cardinal.
busterggi says
No, he probably wouldn’t be.
L. A. Julian says
Burke has said some rather awful things in the past about the child abuse epidemic, too:
http://www.snapnetwork.org/snap_statements/2010_statements/120610_snap_blasts_cardinal_burkes_view_of_abuse_crisis.htm
M'thew says
Stupid and ignorant it certainly is. It’s not entirely empty of meaning – the message is clear. Very clear. Disturbingly clear. Especially with statements like If homosexual relationships are intrinsically disordered, which indeed they are…. There’s no need to prove anything, only to get out the message.
It’s like the Nazis and the Jews, or the Hutus and the Tutsis: just repeat all the time how bad your object of hatred is, and there will be people who believe it and who will act upon it. First lesson in brainwashing.
rietpluim says
To the Church: you are in no way competent or authorized to make assertions about family issues. You do more harm than good. So please, shut the fuck up.
karmacat says
There is also a fear that if you let children interact with gay couples, they will find out these people are normal and happy. By homosexuality being more open, people are realizing the church is full of crap.
deepak shetty says
should not allow their children to have contact with gay people who engage in ‘wrong, evil’ and ‘intrinsically disordered’ relationships.
Evil for e.g. rapist priests and a hierarchy that aids and abets them ?
Disordered like the folks who believe the wife should be submissive and the husband the head of the household ?
Pierce R. Butler says
C’mon, give Burke a break – somebody has to play “bad cop” while Franny plays “good cop”!