…this TERF. It was a usual argument about how horrible it is for trans activists and allies to be fed up with Graham Linehan because of frozen peaches, when the following exchange occurred:
Terf: Grand, so, but sure we’ll be pushing them into the sea this year so we won’t have to worry about them much longer but read a load of liberalism because that’s what’s coming next hopefully… (emphasis mine)
Other person in the conversation: i have literally no idea what you’re talking about.
Me: I’m not sure, but it sounds like a threat to me.
Terf: Always with the drama. Into the sea, it’s a metaphor.
Me: Get lost, it’s an imperative.
Apparently, the fact that “get lost” is an imperative was, no pun intended, lost on her. Anyway, I was done, but she obviously wasn’t.
Terf: No, that would be we MUST push them into the sea. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/imperative …Terf: ps and anyone who would take a statement like ‘we are going to push them into the sea’ literally must have a very flat sense of language or need their head examined imho. Unless they were German and in the vicinity of Dunkirk in the early 1940s…
Me: You seem upset.Terf: What an odd thing to say…
Me: You come back a day later after I told you to get lost. Maybe upset is the wrong word, obsessed fits better. I repeat, get lost.Terf: That seems a little extreme – obsessed by what?
Me: You’re still talking to me after I told you to get lost, twice. Go learn to respect some boundaries.
Terf: I’ve been pursuing a fairly common line of reasoning about a form of leftist smear-journalism, providing examples when requested and other reading material – that’s all fairly normal, isn’t it?
Terf: But you accused me of making a threat, I explained that it wasn’t a threat but a metaphor – I’m allowed to defend myself, and obliged to reassure you that it wasn’t a threat, aren’t I? And then you say I’m upset and obsessed – I assure you I am not.
Me: Get. Lost.Terf: You accused me of making a threat, which is untrue and unfair and not supported by any evidence. I’d like to give you a chance to apologise…
Me: Get lost, this is the textbook definition of harassment.
Terf: Accusing someone of making a threat for no reason could be said to be harassment, and then not allowing them to defend themselves but adding further charges. But lets leave it at that, I think the point about smear tactics is well made and I wish all you all the very best.
Terf: (ps just for completeness – accusing someone of harassment who is trying to defend themselves from a false accusation you yourself have made is itself harassment) atb.
Nightjar says
So much whining and I’m left with the question… a metaphor for what?
voyager says
That person had an agenda to make you look unreasonable. Trying to set you up so they could hand wave and finger point. There’s no point in engaging with them because they just want to make you look bad.
Plus, Nightjar is right. What the hell is “into the sea” a metaphor for?
rq says
I have to say, someone’s a bit confused about what a metaphor is… it’s not a cover that excuses these thinly veiled threats -- they might not be specific threats, but they’re certainly not harmless or ignorable.
avalus says
What the freezing fuck is it with these people? Somehow I am glad I don’t have the twitterer. Somewhat reminds me of the stuff one regulary sees exposed on we hunted the mammoth.
Nightjar: … a Metaphor for drowning/killing people in the sea? Just without the, you know, methaphoric bit where you do not say explicitly what you mean? Come on, methaphors are hard! *sarcasm
Charly says
I think it is ‘meta’ for being an asshole.
fledanow says
“I’m allowed to defend myself, and obliged to reassure you that it wasn’t a threat”
Amazing! Who is giving her this permission and who is putting her under this obligation? She was in a conversation with you, a conversation you have stated is closed, and she has declared there is some higher authority than you that controls your boundaries. Well dog gammed, I guess you should just sit back, button up, and listen because she’s allowed and obliged and you’re not. It’s incredible that a mind so closed tight and locked down can squeeze out a thought, even those as poor and thin as here.