A new survey reveals that a quarter of Europeans think that rape is justifiable in some cases, notably in situations where a person is drunk or drugged, or agrees to go with someone. There are several sources available, and you can read the full 102 page report here.
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Europe: 4 out of 10 say rape may be justifiable in certain circumstances.
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I’d say I’m surprised, but I don’t lie much.
But remember there’s no sexism in Europe apart from muslims, right?
I was talking to Rick about this, and said I’d be very scared of what that survey would reveal if it was done here in uStates.
I’ve always said the “rapefugee” types were just salty because white women are only for white men to rape.
I’m not exactly pleased to have that interpretation corroborated.
I am honestly curious: has there ever been a similar study where this hypothetical scenario (victim passed out, drugged, and so on) was presented with the respondent as the victim instead of as the perpetrator or a neutral observer? Would it shift the results any?
Siobhan
Classic case of projection, if you ask me.
What the fucking fuck is going on with the world.
Golgafrinchan Captain
Same as always. It’s a sign of progress that we’re finally paying attention.
Oualawouzou
That’s a good question and maybe it could be used as a tool to educate people.
Fuck that’s depressing. Parts of it were surprising too -- Luxembourg in particular being so bad, and even 41% of women in Luxembourg thinking that some of the cases were justifiable.
Part of this is lying to yourself. Rape culture and victim blaming give women a false sense of security. If rape victims have only themselves to blame because they did something wrong then you personally can be safe by doing things right.
Caine, #2
And especially, and I shudder even to think this, at American universities.
Knabb:
That goes back into the mists of time and the list of proscribed behaviour for women. The “list” for women still continues: don’t go out alone; don’t drink; don’t do this, don’t do that; don’t don’t don’t. That nonsense is pounded into the heads of girls and women everywhere and perpetuates the myth of “good girls don’t have bad things happen to them”. This keeps the responsibility for rape and sexual assault on the victim, rather than the rapist, and attempts to change that, well, it’s seriously difficult.
The damn thing is that it’s really alluring. I mean, if bad things don’t happen to good girls, you’re safe. Until you notice that you aren’t. And even then most women and girls will first blame themselves because if they’d been good, it wouldn’t have happened to them.
I notice it’s similar to abortion access: Lit’S of women think it doesn’t concern them because only stupid women have unexpected pregnancies, right?