There’s nothing anyone can do about it, I guess, but anti-semitic, that is, NAZI organizers are telling their followers to carry out acts of harassment against Jewish people on Saturday. The police are just warning you all — you’re on your own, nothing they can do.
Chicago police are urging Jewish and other religious communities to be extra vigilant this weekend when a neo-Nazi group has declared a “day of hate.”
“At this time, there is no actionable intelligence,” the Chicago Police Department said in a statement. “We continue to actively monitor the situation.”
In New York, the police will have “elevated situational awareness”, but otherwise, it’s on you to be careful.
In the warning, the NYPD advised officers to maintain “elevated situational awareness” on Saturday, particularly at locations that “might garner higher interest from these types of actors.”
What good are the police, then? Once the bodies have bled out, then they can step in? I have noticed that the police are pretty darned good at making life miserable for black people, harassing them with frequent traffic stops, hassling them on street corners, threatening them with arrest for trivial actions, even too often outright killing them — I don’t want cops murdering skinheads either, but it seems to be easier to stroll around with a swastika tattoo than the unadorned skin a black person is born with. The police have the tools, they use them when they wish, but apparently, they don’t wish to crack down on white people threatening violence to other citizens.
In addition to the uselessness of cops, do these Nazis have even an ounce of introspection? Declaring a “Day of Hate” really ought to be enough for any normal person to realize that they are the baddies. The very baddest baddies. I guess the fact that they’re wearing swastika arm bands should have been the first clue, but they ignored that and are just going to run all the way to beating up little old Jewish ladies in the street, because they generically hate them.
Among the skills cops are supposed to have, clairvoyance is not on the list.
To the surprise of exactly nobody, every instance of extremist mass murder in the US last year was committed by the right wing.
https://www.axios.com/2023/02/23/mass-killings-extremism-adl-report-2022
You must be new here. Welcome to Earth and the Fascist States of America, formerly United.
Way back in 1989, the US Supreme Court found that police have no duty to protect members of the public who were not already in custody, so they can and do happily watch members of the public be murdered – then arrest the murderer if they don’t like the murderer.
There’s a price to be paid living in the same star cluster as Bizarro World…
Given my good neighbor policy and the fact that there are two synagogues within walking distance, as well as a mosque, I’ve noted the location of local National Guard armories and already know the layout of the ammunition supply point at our local bases. Best case scenario, I only need my cane and that, for walking. Worst case, organized violence, well, one M240 will more than suffice.
My Nomex gloves remain in my coat pocket, usually for metal contact avoidance in winter, but also frequently used in the supermarket to handle frozen chickens.
Why can’t they just do their hate my way? Hate gravity, bitch and moan about it and move on?
The last one of these types of nose miners I met also proclaimed to all that he was a Christian and hates Jews.
Had him in knots over, “Jesus was a Jew” and his nonsensical counters being dismissed just as trivially. Of course, I was hoping that he’d have taken a swing at me. Instead, he did the cockroach in light trick and scurried off.
Must’ve been my imposing, towering 5′ 9″ frame. Or maybe the 3 meter tall flatus behind me.
That reminds me, I’m low on ammo. Gotta pick up a couple more cans of chili and maybe make some refried beans…
Time to rearm, I’m down to one can of chili. Maybe make some refried beans.
They’ll never stick around when I release fear gas.
Oh, welcome to Earth, PZ. You seem to be a stranger here, given the SCOTUS decision that police have no duty to protect civilians that are not already in custody. They legally can and have watched murders occur.
Well, watched them when they weren’t conducting them themselves.
Bollocks! Just realized, I’m out of bread, beans and Spanish rice. Off to the store I go.
Because it’s days they hate…
“Day of Hate”
Well, at least they aren’t being obtuse about it.
Just because we declare a day of hate doesn’t mean we hate anybody. We’re just really, really, REALLY proud of being not Jewish, or black, or gay….
Join your local chapter of the John Brown Gun Club.
These people relish their hates, savoring each one like fondling a favorite turd. “Oh, this one smells bad. I must keep it forever.”
These people play with their own shit.
One of the slogans of the Spanish Fascists was literally “Long Live Death!”
Since the Nazis are keen on announcing their plans in advance, it would sure be nice if a certain administration would send in troops or DHS officers to crack some fascist terrorists heads…
Oh wait, that would be divisive and not very bipartisan at all. Even Brandon thinks they aren’t terrorists if they’re white!
@laurian, perfect idea! I’ll have to see if there’s a chapter nearby.
I’m also a qualified marksmanship instructor.
And tagged REF. Retired, Extremely Flatulent.
Pete Seeger wrote on his banjo ‘this machine surrounds hate and forces it to surrender’. He was a true, decent, caring ‘mensch’. I loved that about him (as well as his music). I have no idea how he would survive in, or how he would react to today’s world. You can’t tell me we’ve not entered another ‘dark ages’.
@13- His guitar said “this machine kills fascists.”
Of course the cops aren’t going to do anything to stop this. Cops protect cops.
Scott de Brestian @10, that was a slogan of the Moroccan troops Franco brought in.
It was not a political slogan.
13 & 14: IIRC, it was Woody Guthrie’s guitar on which was written, “This machine kills fascists.”
I wouldn’t normally cite Wikipedia as evidence in support of an argument, but this seems to be a simple matter of fact that’s not controversial.
This Day of Hate is stochastic terrorism.
The Nazis aren’t actually going to do anything silly like get up off their couch.
They don’t want to risk getting arrested or shot by self defense.
They want you (plural) to do something stupid and reckless and end up on the 6:00 news.
It is also an IQ test.
Anyone who actually takes it seriously enough to do anything illegal is demonstrably stupid.
I think anyone espousing a day of hate should be arrested on charges of terrorism, just as a safety precaution.
At this time, there is no actionable intelligence,” the Chicago Police Department said in a statement. “We continue to actively monitor the situation.”
I bet they are monitoring.
The calls are coming from inside the house.
OMG!
Off topic and in pleasanter news, there’s this soap maker named Lisa on YouTube who just made a soap celebrating evolution. She’s very talented ( no criticism she’s not a scientist) . The channel name is I DREAM IN SOAP . She’s making soaps pointing out the different geological eras . So far she’d done the Hadean , a dinosaur era soap, and the evolution of humans one
I sincerely hope these @&$%€{ idiots don’t try that in Queens NYC , the most ethnically and racially diverse county in the USA. We do have a large Jewish population .
jsrtheta #1
So, the cops would need clairvoyance to figure out that Nazis are bad?
shermanj@13– “This machine surrounds hate and forces it to surrender” was on Pete Seeger’s banjo
Matt G@14– “This machine kills fascists” was on several of Woody Guthrie’s guitars
Jake and Ellwood taught me to hate these guys a long time ago:
Is that the same Chicago PD that had no qualms killing Fred Hampton?
Fucking Florida:
https://www.wesh.com/article/anti-semitic-messages-daytona-international-speedway/42988737
And:
https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-732553
Well I despise Fine himself as a very horrible person, but it looks like Florida is trying to do something about the uptick in antisemitic incidents in the state: https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/politics-issues/2023-01-27/bipartisan-bill-targets-antisemitic-incidents-making-them-felonies
But leave to the ADL to make the more important broader perspective point about what’s happening: “The Anti-Defamation League says the groups responsible for the anti-Jewish incidents also target LGBTQ and transgender people.
A couple of bills by Democrats — such as Senate Bill 276 by Palm Beach County Sen. Lori Berman — would make that gender-based and gender identity-based prejudice also criteria for a hate crime.”
Soon the GOP establishment will be blasting the ADL as too “woke” if they haven’t already.
jsrtheta #1, chigau (違う) #22 >
They exhausted their clairvoyance identifying who to arrest for resisting arrest
Recently, over in England, a teenaged transgender girl was murdered. Two other teenagers stabbed her multiple times and left her for dead in a public park.
A couple of reports on the matter that I saw on YouTube had the sense to turn off the comments. Another one I saw didn’t, and the trans-haters were having a field day. I compared them to sharks: they’d smelled blood and now they were gathering. It wasn’t just anti-trans stuff they were spewing. This was sickening anti-trans stuff of the worst sort.
They’d murdered one of ours and they saw that as the perfect opportunity to remind us how bad we are.
I did point this out to some of them, but it made no impression on them. “I wholly approve of murdering someone who hasn’t done a damn thing to deserve it. How does that make ME the bad guy?” They simply don’t see the connection.
It’s trivial, I know, but haters so thoroughly dehumanize their victims that they don’t see human beings. They don’t see “person”. They see “black”. They don’t see “person”. They see “Jew”. They don’t see “person”. They see “tranny”. And so on. And so it has ever been.
When you’re organising a day of hate…
{Insert Mitchell and Webb’s “Are we the baddies?” sketch}
Louis
@ hemidactylus : “Is that the same Chicago PD that had no qualms killing Fred Hampton?”
Fred Hampton? (Searches) :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hampton#Assassination
Bloody hell. Yes, it is – albiet many decades later. Murdered back in 1969 in what’s very clearly a political assassination where they could have easily captured him alive.
Question:
What do the Fox viewers do when they see a group of white supremacists (whose ideas regarding white folks, gay and trans people, etc., they agree with) see those same white supremacists carrying a sign that says “National Socialist Movement”? I don’t expect them to understand the difference between a so-called Nazi “socialist” and the word that they have been taught to hate.
Most of you likely remember this (https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/13/us/idaho-patriot-front-arrests-pride-what-we-know/index.html) story. The cops can intercept people before they ‘commit crimes’ if they choose to.
There is a huge difference between that event and the day of hate, though. That was a large group attempting to fuck up a peaceful rally. This is small groups or individuals threatening random attacks on individuals randomly scattered around the country. I doubt if even the Stasi could have identified all those intending to perpetrate violence.
Knowing that something is in the works, and knowing specifically who intends to participate are very different things. Whether the warning mitigates the threat in any way, or merely stokes the fear is another question.
@ jimf : I think that for them that “national”part magically offsets the “socialist”one.. or more likely they know reichwing haters and are fine with them even if the word “socialism” otherwise bugs them despite them not understanding what it means..
There really doesn’t have to be anything “in the works” for this sort of thing to have the desired effect on targeted people. All the bigots have to do is declare a “day of hate” or some such, then the cops advise the targeted people to be really careful going out in public (in other words, just a friendly reminder that they are, in fact, still a hated minority who can’t expect to exercise their full legal rights), and each time, if even a handful of the targeted people change or cancel their day’s plans, then the bigots have won at least a small victory by keeping their targets on edge, insecure, and not really able to expect to be as safe as the majority.
I have no idea how [Pete Seeger] would survive in, or how he would react to today’s world.
Today’s world is really not that different from the world he and Woody Guthrie grew up in, fascism, racism, class differences and all. Why do you think they had to write all that stuff on their instruments in the first place?
In this thread: leftists wanting an authoritarian police state to prevent the rise of an authoritarian police state.
jimf @31: It depends on whether the FAUX viewer currently is more interested in bashing socialists or promoting white supremacy. Remember, hypocrisy is the norm for these people.
“In this thread: leftists wanting an authoritarian police state to prevent the rise of an authoritarian police state.”
also in this thread… someone who doesn’t understand the meaning of false equivalency and thinks they are edgy to a fault.
@36. logicalcat : “In this thread: leftists wanting an authoritarian police state to prevent the rise of an authoritarian police state.”
How about a police force that fights racists instead of oen that is racist? That’s what I’d like to see here.
Just leave this here: https://youtu.be/hn1VxaMEjRU