A few people in the state of Idaho really want to arrest doctors and nurses.
Two Idaho lawmakers have introduced a bill to charge those who administer mRNA vaccines with a misdemeanor.
Sen. Tammy Nichols, R-Middleton, and Rep. Judy Boyle, R-Midvale, sponsored HB 154. It was introduced in the House Health & Welfare Committee on Feb. 15 by Nichols. According to the bill text, “A person may not provide or administer a vaccine developed using messenger ribonucleic acid technology for use in an individual or any other mammal in this state.”
Nichols has an associates degree in business administration; Boyle has attended college, no mention of a degree, and lists her occupation as “rancher.” Neither knows a lick about biology, obviously, but they’re trying to pass a law to criminalize a useful medical tool.
It goes without saying that they’re Republican. Also batshit nuts and ignorant.
I do appreciate that they added that “or any other mammal” clause to their law. At least they’re admitting that people belong to the mammalian taxonomic class! I suspect they just threw that in to make their wacky law sound sciencey.
mordred says
I’m kinda expecting them to declare RNA vaccines “Jewish science”.
raven says
In Idaho, a doctor-turned-conspiracy theorist is in power as the state reels from Covid-19
At the height of the Covid-19 pandemic, Idaho appointed an anti-vaxxer lunatic fringe MD to their regional health board.
“In Idaho, a doctor-turned-conspiracy theorist has been appointed to a powerful regional health board, demonstrating the depth of the state’s disinformation crisis.
Dr. Ryan Cole has referred to Covid-19 vaccines as “needle rape” and the “clot shot,” he has promoted unproven remedies like the anti-parasitic drug ivermectin and he has falsely claimed there’s statistically no efficacy in masks,…”
Idaho also had their hospitals fill up with very sick and dying Covid-19 virus patients to the point where they had to export them to nearby states and activate triage procedures.
This is a state where the lunatics are running the asylum.
Die Anyway says
raven says
The head of the Idaho health board, Ryan Cole, is being charged with malpractice in Washington state for his role in helping the pandemic spread in the USA.
He has a hearing coming up and might well lose his medical license.
and
raven says
Idaho’s record in fighting the Covid-19 pandemic was very dismal.
At the height of the pandemic, they ran out of hospital space and flooded neighboring states with their sick and dying patients.
They also activated emergency triage procedures.
This is the modern GOP.
Piles of dead bodies from their failed lunatic fringe policies don’t bother them at all.
Ironically, most of those dead people were likely to be…Republicans.
This was the group most likely to refuse the Covid-19 virus vaccines, get Covid-19 virus, and die.
Halcyon Dayz, FCD says
Often enough there’s no functional difference between stupidity/ignorance and evil.
specialffrog says
@mordred: If you look up “German New Medicine” that is basically their schtick.
feralboy12 says
This bill doesn’t go far enough!
They need to ban that dangerous ribonucleic acid once and for all.
RNA? CRT? What’s next, teaching our kids LSD?
Democrats are out of control.
QED
cowalker says
“I do appreciate that they added that “or any other mammal” clause to their law. At least they’re admitting that people belong to the mammalian taxonomic class! I suspect they just threw that in to make their wacky law sound sciencey.”
You give them too much credit. The anti-MRNA vaxxers think those who get vaccinated “shed” spike proteins which can sicken those they come into contact with. They don’t want their cattle or dogs “shedding” on them.
https://www.chop.edu/news/feature-article-viral-shedding-and-covid-19-what-can-and-can-t-happen
raven says
Vaccine misinformation spawns ‘pure blood’ movement
The antivaxxers call themselves the “Pure Bloods”.
“The movement spins anti-vaccine narratives focused on unfounded claims that receiving blood from people inoculated against the coronavirus “contaminates” the body.
They won’t even date vaccinated people.
Thank Cthulhu for that. That is one thing I can agree with them on.
I wouldn’t want an antivaxxer to mow my lawn much less spend any time near me.
FWIW, the antivaxxers aren’t all that many.
The US vaccination rate is 81% and hard core antivaxxers run around 8%.
This is lunatic fringe territory.
Knabb says
This is a fair bit broader than just doctors and nurses – vaccination is one of the easiest medical things to get trained on and it comes up in all sorts of circumstances. Pharmacists, pharmacy techs, minimally trained volunteers at vaccination drives, some specialist soldiers, potentially even vets and vet techs in the near future depending on how animal vaccines develop.
brightmoon says
( sigh)
robro says
OT: Anyone else seeing these “Trackbacks” links at the end of the comments for this post? Not sure what they are. I’ve seen them on another post recently, but not all of them.
wzrd1 says
Seeing the trackback thing here.
As for the antivaxxer nonsense, I strongly suspect that they’ll eventually demand that smallpox be revived and reintroduced back into the world.
After all, God loves dead babies and all…
Alan G. Humphrey says
It strikes me as odd how those Trackbacks have paraphrased the title and the meaning is quite different and subtly ominous. Abysses of rabbit holes, so I’m not even gonna peek.
birgerjohansson says
The B-52’s about Ryan Cole’s attachment to reality:
“You’re living in your own private Idaho”
birgerjohansson says
Mordred @ 1
Maybe Cole will insist scientists should do research on “abwehrfermente” (defense enzymes) a pseudoscientific thing in Germany 1933-45 researched by – among others- that doctor in Auschwitz.
birgerjohansson says
Mordred @ 1
Maybe Cole will insist scientists should do research on “abwehrfermente” (defense enzymes) a pseudoscientific thing in Germany 1933-45 researched by – among others- that doctor in Auschwitz.
birgerjohansson says
Doublet comment, delete!
John Morales says
Robro, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trackback
macallan says
R-Midvale? Gary Larson is a prophet.
Ray Ceeya says
Idaho, a state that only exists because nobody else wanted it.
garydargan says
Can’t allow mammals to be injected. They are scared it might make bats immune from the virus
garydargan says
Can’t allow mammals to be injected. They are afraid it might make bats immune to the virus.
StevoR says
I’d have imagined that a real “rancher” would have at least some idea about animal diseases which also require vaccinating too? Also have at least some basic biology knowledge about the cattle being ranched? But no?
StevoR says
Don’t most ranchers how about coxpox – and the whole cowpox history deal that lead to vaccinations in the first place – for starters?
StevoR says
^ how did know become ‘how” there?
robro says
John Morales @ #20 — Thanks for the link to the Wiki article. Is there any way to know why this trackback is showing up here, or if it’s legit or spam?
Jazzlet says
robro @28
Try looking up “Alast Paperwriter” for the last one? Not sure about the others.
hemidactylus says
@22- Ray Ceeya
Aren’t Idaho and eastern Washington basically a white power neonazi ethnostate?
hemidactylus says
@28- robro and @20- John Morales
Is this more a bug or feature? I’ve seen these Trackbacks occasionally for a while here but not to the extent on this thread. Is it something PZ should look into or shut down if nefarious? It sure seems distracting as it’s at the bottom of my scrolling especially before replying. If benign or somehow beneficial fine, but I never understood it and I refuse to tap (previously known as click) on suspicious stuff.
chrislawson says
If Cole loses his license, great, but it should only be the first step in securing a manslaughter conviction.
John Morales says
[trackbacks]
Marcus would know better than I, but pretty sure the trackbacks aren’t nefarious as such, other than in the sense some sites scrape content from other sites without attribution, and some of those sites might have malware.
wzrd1 says
Frankly, I think the trackback thing wouldn’t have really been noticed if it appeared below the comment post box, rather than on top of it.
So, more of a formatting issue, likely from a software update.
Jaws says
feralboy@8: To quote Capt Kirk in one of his most-lucid moments, I think they took too much LDS back in the 70s. (Especially in Idaho’s northern panhandle and the far-southeast corner of the state.) Boyle’s profile discloses “college” but doesn’t name it; Nichols’s discloses BYU-Idaho — the Brigham Young University for those who think Provo is a den of debauchery because it doesn’t outright ban the sale of coffee and caffeine-containing tea everywhere in town.
The most important question, though, is whether Sen Nichols and Rep Boyle are individually, or collectively, heavier than a duck. Because that scene in Holy Grail is about as close as these sort of numbskulls come to “logic.”
Jaws says
raven@10: Please remind us, too, about the purity of our precious bodily fluids, and how vaccination is nearly as great a threat as… as… fluoridation. Mandrake, have you ever seen a commie take a drink of water? Well, have you?
StevoR says
@10. raven : Crikey, Even transphobic bigot JK Rowling knew that any side calling themselves “purebloods” had to be the bad guys and bigoted as..
llyris says
So…. they want to charge individuals who administer a legal medical preparation but they aren’t looking to ban it nor charge the suppliers. W.T. F.???
They are just looking for an excuse to bully people who don’t have the means to screw them to the wall the way a pharmaceutical company could.