Why not just skip ahead and try them for witchcraft?


A few people in the state of Idaho really want to arrest doctors and nurses.

Two Idaho lawmakers have introduced a bill to charge those who administer mRNA vaccines with a misdemeanor.

Sen. Tammy Nichols, R-Middleton, and Rep. Judy Boyle, R-Midvale, sponsored HB 154. It was introduced in the House Health & Welfare Committee on Feb. 15 by Nichols. According to the bill text, “A person may not provide or administer a vaccine developed using messenger ribonucleic acid technology for use in an individual or any other mammal in this state.”

Nichols has an associates degree in business administration; Boyle has attended college, no mention of a degree, and lists her occupation as “rancher.” Neither knows a lick about biology, obviously, but they’re trying to pass a law to criminalize a useful medical tool.

It goes without saying that they’re Republican. Also batshit nuts and ignorant.

I do appreciate that they added that “or any other mammal” clause to their law. At least they’re admitting that people belong to the mammalian taxonomic class! I suspect they just threw that in to make their wacky law sound sciencey.

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  1. raven says

    In Idaho, a doctor-turned-conspiracy theorist is in power as the state reels from Covid-19

    At the height of the Covid-19 pandemic, Idaho appointed an anti-vaxxer lunatic fringe MD to their regional health board.

    “In Idaho, a doctor-turned-conspiracy theorist has been appointed to a powerful regional health board, demonstrating the depth of the state’s disinformation crisis.

    Dr. Ryan Cole has referred to Covid-19 vaccines as “needle rape” and the “clot shot,” he has promoted unproven remedies like the anti-parasitic drug ivermectin and he has falsely claimed there’s statistically no efficacy in masks,…”

    Idaho also had their hospitals fill up with very sick and dying Covid-19 virus patients to the point where they had to export them to nearby states and activate triage procedures.

    This is a state where the lunatics are running the asylum.

    In Idaho, a doctor-turned-conspiracy theorist is in power as the state reels from Covid-19
    Idaho has one of the worst vaccination rates in the country, and it just gave an anti-vax conspiracy theorist tremendous power.

    In Idaho, a doctor-turned-conspiracy theorist has been appointed to a powerful regional health board, demonstrating the depth of the state’s disinformation crisis.

    Dr. Ryan Cole has referred to Covid-19 vaccines as “needle rape” and the “clot shot,” he has promoted unproven remedies like the anti-parasitic drug ivermectin and he has falsely claimed there’s statistically no efficacy in masks, On Wednesday, Cole reportedly said the “intrusion” of politics into physician-patient relationships “must end.” Interfering with that relationship “may actually constitute crimes against humanity,” he claimed.

    Now, he will serve on an influential health board for the foreseeable future, at a time when Idaho’s health system is crumbling due to Covid. His appointment to Idaho’s Central District Health Board was ratified by seven out of 12 county commissioners in Idaho, who successfully placed him in a seat he will be allowed to hold until September 2026.

    Photo illustration: A doctor wearing a mask surrounded by syringes with scribbles over them.
    Anjali Nair / MSNBC; Getty Images
    Cole was appointed to his role on the board — which has control over some local health measures, including mask mandates — on Sept. 7. That same day, Idaho health officials activated “crisis standards of care,” a protocol that allows hospitals to ration health care due to the scores of unvaccinated people filling overwhelming Idaho’s hospitals.

    Idaho’s vaccination rate is among the lowest in the nation. In this state firmly under Republican control, the rate of unvaccinated people is likely a reflection of partisanship. Data released by the Kaiser Family Foundation this week suggests there is still a stark difference in vaccination rates among Republicans and Democrats. The data shows, on average, that counties that voted for Joe Biden in the 2020 election had 12.9 percent more of their residents vaccinated than counties that voted for Trump.

    Cole is a doctor who specializes in dermatopathology, a field involving skin diseases — not respiratory conditions like Covid-19. His elevation is a sign that the war on disinformation doesn’t just involve laymen, and that credentialed officials can adopt dangerous theories as well.

    The political opposition to public health measures is an anchor weighing down Idaho’s Covid-19 recovery.

    Some health groups are trying to dissuade seeming experts like Cole from using their trusted positions to spread misinformation. Last week, the American Board of Family Medicine, the American Board of Internal Medicine and the American Board of Pediatrics all released a statement saying doctors who spread Covid-19 misinformation are at risk of losing their board certification.

    The political opposition to public health measures is an anchor weighing down Idaho’s Covid-19 recovery. Last December, a county commissioner and health board member who supported a mask mandate — Democrat Diana Lachiondo — was forced to abruptly walk out of a public health meeting after learning protesters were outside her home, banging on her door while her child was inside. Lachiondo left her seat on the health board at the beginning of the year and was replaced by a Republican.

    In January, Republicans took near-total control over the Ada County Commissioners board and they have moved quickly to replace sitting health officials loyalists on the Central District Health Board. Their most recent appointment was Dr. Ryan Cole.

  2. Die Anyway says

    “…in an individual or any other mammal in this state.”
    So our reptilian overlords can use those vaccines but we can’t? Hmmm…?

  3. raven says

    The head of the Idaho health board, Ryan Cole, is being charged with malpractice in Washington state for his role in helping the pandemic spread in the USA.
    He has a hearing coming up and might well lose his medical license.

    Medscape February 01, 2023

    Washington Medical Board Charges Doctor for Spreading COVID Misinformation
    John McCormack
    February 01, 2023

    Misinformation regarding COVID-19 has been cited as a public health threat since the beginning of the worldwide pandemic. Doctors and professional organizations are standing guard, hoping to protect patients from any harm that results from mistruths spread by colleagues.

    Case in point: Several physicians and the American Board of Pathology filed complaints with Washington and Idaho medical boards alleging that Ryan Cole, MD, a board-certified pathologist who practices in Boise, Idaho, but who also holds a license in Washington, has spread anti-vaccine and pro-ivermectin statements on social media. Cole is one of the founders of America’s Frontline Doctors, a right-wing political organization

    and

    Home » Statement of charges served on physician license of Ryan Cole
    Statement of charges served on physician license of Ryan Cole

    OLYMPIA, WA – In January 2023, Washington Medical Commission (WMC) issued a statement of charges against the Washington physician license of Ryan Cole, MD (Lic. #00048229).

    Dr. Cole resides in Idaho, but holds a Washington license to practice as a physician and surgeon.

    The statement of charges alleges that Dr. Cole made numerous false and misleading statements related to COVID-19 and treated patients with COVID-19 or seeking to prevent getting COVID-19 in a manner that was beneath the standard of care.

    Dr. Cole must file a response to the statement of charges by January 30, 2023.

    Legal documents in this case are available online by visiting the DOH Provider Credential Search website.

    **This notice is intended to comply with RCW 18.130.110.
    The Washington Medical Commission promotes patient safety and enhances the integrity of the medical profession through licensing, rule-making, discipline, and education. Learn more about the commission at wmc.wa.gov. Follow the WMC on Facebook and Twitter.

  4. raven says

    Idaho’s record in fighting the Covid-19 pandemic was very dismal.
    At the height of the pandemic, they ran out of hospital space and flooded neighboring states with their sick and dying patients.
    They also activated emergency triage procedures.

    This is the modern GOP.
    Piles of dead bodies from their failed lunatic fringe policies don’t bother them at all.
    Ironically, most of those dead people were likely to be…Republicans.
    This was the group most likely to refuse the Covid-19 virus vaccines, get Covid-19 virus, and die.

    Washington Grapples With Idaho Covid Caseshttps://www.nytimes.com › 2021/09/13 › coronavirus-hos…

    Oct 6, 2021 — Washington State is reeling under its own surge of coronavirus cases. But in neighboring Idaho, 20 miles down Interstate 90 from Spokane, …

    Idaho Allows Overwhelmed Hospitals to Ration Care If Needed https://www.nytimes.com › idaho-covid-hospitalizations

    Sep 16, 2021 — Idaho allows overwhelmed hospitals across the state to ration care if … Attending to a Covid-19 patient at St. Luke’s Boise Medical Center …

  5. says

    This bill doesn’t go far enough!
    They need to ban that dangerous ribonucleic acid once and for all.
    RNA? CRT? What’s next, teaching our kids LSD?
    Democrats are out of control.
    QED

  6. cowalker says

    “I do appreciate that they added that “or any other mammal” clause to their law. At least they’re admitting that people belong to the mammalian taxonomic class! I suspect they just threw that in to make their wacky law sound sciencey.”

    You give them too much credit. The anti-MRNA vaxxers think those who get vaccinated “shed” spike proteins which can sicken those they come into contact with. They don’t want their cattle or dogs “shedding” on them.
    https://www.chop.edu/news/feature-article-viral-shedding-and-covid-19-what-can-and-can-t-happen

  7. raven says

    Vaccine misinformation spawns ‘pure blood’ movement

    The antivaxxers call themselves the “Pure Bloods”.
    “The movement spins anti-vaccine narratives focused on unfounded claims that receiving blood from people inoculated against the coronavirus “contaminates” the body.

    They won’t even date vaccinated people.
    Thank Cthulhu for that. That is one thing I can agree with them on.
    I wouldn’t want an antivaxxer to mow my lawn much less spend any time near me.

    FWIW, the antivaxxers aren’t all that many.
    The US vaccination rate is 81% and hard core antivaxxers run around 8%.
    This is lunatic fringe territory.

    AFP
    Vaccine misinformation spawns ‘pure blood’ movement
    Anuj Chopra and Marisha Goldhamer
    January 24, 2023·4 min read

    Vaccine skeptics blocking transfusions for life-saving surgeries, Facebook groups inciting violence against doctors and a global search for unvaccinated donors — Covid-19 misinformation has bred a so-called “pure blood” movement.

    The movement spins anti-vaccine narratives focused on unfounded claims that receiving blood from people inoculated against the coronavirus “contaminates” the body.

    Some have advocated for blood banks that draw from “pure” unvaccinated people, while medics in North America say they have fielded requests from people demanding transfusions from donors who have not received the jab.

    In closed social media groups, vaccine skeptics — who brand themselves as “pure bloods” — promote violence against doctors administering coronavirus jabs alongside false claims of mass deaths of vaccinated people.

    Taking the hysteria to the next level was the recent high-profile case of a New Zealand couple, who sought to block life-saving heart surgery of their infant on the grounds that any blood transfused could have come from a vaccinated donor.

    Their stance prompted a New Zealand court to take temporary custody of the baby to allow the procedure, but the case became a cause celebre among vaccine skeptics around the world.

    “Cases like this spread like wildfire on both fringe and mainstream news sites and then social media, providing attention for anti-vaccine conspiracy theories,” Katrine Wallace, an epidemiologist and assistant professor at the University of Illinois Chicago, told AFP.

    “There is absolutely no science behind these conspiracies. If you give blood from a vaccinated donor to an unvaccinated person, the person receiving the transfusion does not become vaccinated.”

    – ‘Profitable falsehoods’ –

    George Della Pietra, a Swiss naturopath founded Safe Blood Donation, a global mediation service that falsely labels mRNA coronavirus vaccines a “health threat” and seeks to connect unvaccinated blood donors with recipients.

    The Zurich-based nonprofit offers to obtain “fresh or canned” unvaccinated blood for its patrons, according to Safe Blood’s website, which says it has a presence across western Europe, the United States, Canada, Australia, Asia and Africa.

    AFP’s email to Pietra requesting comment elicited a reply from Safe Blood’s media director.

    “There are a large number of scientists and doctors who not only have great concerns about the Covid vaccines, but are convinced that they also enter the body via the blood through the back door, so to speak, and remain there,” wrote Clinton Ohlers, the media director, quoting from the website.

    That directly contradicts scientific assertions.

    “Blood donations from individuals who have received a Covid-19 vaccine are safe for transfusion,” Jessa Merrill, from the American Red Cross, told AFP.

    “Similar to other vaccines… the Covid-19 vaccine is designed to generate an immune response to help protect an individual from illness, but vaccine components themselves are not found within the bloodstream.”

    Safe Blood’s members are required to pay an initial joining fee of 50 euros ($54), followed by 20 euros each subsequent year, according to its website.

    “The ‘safe blood’ movement is absolutely based 100 percent in anti-vaccine misinformation,” said Wallace.

    “As with all anti-vaccine misinformation, appealing to people’s fears is sadly profitable.”

    – Sperm and breast milk –

    The demand to remain “pure” reaches beyond blood to social media posts soliciting sperm from unvaccinated men — conspiracy theorists speculate online that the precious commodity will be the “next Bitcoin” — as well as breast milk from unvaccinated mothers.

    These requests appear to stem from belief in the debunked claims that Covid vaccines can cause infertility or alter the human DNA.

    Demand for “unvaccinated” blood is unclear, but experts say it would be a challenge to procure it in countries with high vaccination rates.

    The Food and Drug Administration in the United States, where more than 80 percent of the population has received at least one Covid jab, says it does not require blood collectors to test for vaccination status.

    Hospitals are also not able to inform the status of donated blood to patients.

    “Is the US blood supply tainted?” screamed a headline from Children’s Health Defense, a nonprofit founded by Robert Kennedy Jr, a known purveyor of vaccine misinformation.

    It falsely asserted that the country’s vaccination campaign may have “contaminated the country’s blood supply.”

    An AFP reporter who infiltrated one of the closed “pure bloods” Facebook groups found posts vilifying doctors administering vaccines as “an arm of the state.”

    Other posts contained a cartoon image of a nurse holding a syringe and standing in a field full of skulls, and another of “victims” tumbling out of a vaccine bottle in crutches and wheelchairs.

    Another post contained a video of a shirtless muscular man headbutting and smashing a car window in what was claimed to be a public outburst against vaccines.

  8. Knabb says

    This is a fair bit broader than just doctors and nurses – vaccination is one of the easiest medical things to get trained on and it comes up in all sorts of circumstances. Pharmacists, pharmacy techs, minimally trained volunteers at vaccination drives, some specialist soldiers, potentially even vets and vet techs in the near future depending on how animal vaccines develop.

  9. robro says

    OT: Anyone else seeing these “Trackbacks” links at the end of the comments for this post? Not sure what they are. I’ve seen them on another post recently, but not all of them.

  10. wzrd1 says

    Seeing the trackback thing here.

    As for the antivaxxer nonsense, I strongly suspect that they’ll eventually demand that smallpox be revived and reintroduced back into the world.
    After all, God loves dead babies and all…

  11. Alan G. Humphrey says

    It strikes me as odd how those Trackbacks have paraphrased the title and the meaning is quite different and subtly ominous. Abysses of rabbit holes, so I’m not even gonna peek.

  12. birgerjohansson says

    The B-52’s about Ryan Cole’s attachment to reality:
    “You’re living in your own private Idaho”

  13. birgerjohansson says

    Mordred @ 1
    Maybe Cole will insist scientists should do research on “abwehrfermente” (defense enzymes) a pseudoscientific thing in Germany 1933-45 researched by – among others- that doctor in Auschwitz.

  14. birgerjohansson says

    Mordred @ 1
    Maybe Cole will insist scientists should do research on “abwehrfermente” (defense enzymes) a pseudoscientific thing in Germany 1933-45 researched by – among others- that doctor in Auschwitz.

  15. StevoR says

    Boyle has attended college, no mention of a degree, and lists her occupation as “rancher.” Neither knows a lick about biology, obviously, but they’re trying to pass a law to criminalize a useful medical tool.

    I’d have imagined that a real “rancher” would have at least some idea about animal diseases which also require vaccinating too? Also have at least some basic biology knowledge about the cattle being ranched? But no?

  16. StevoR says

    Don’t most ranchers how about coxpox – and the whole cowpox history deal that lead to vaccinations in the first place – for starters?

  17. robro says

    John Morales @ #20 — Thanks for the link to the Wiki article. Is there any way to know why this trackback is showing up here, or if it’s legit or spam?

  18. Jazzlet says

    robro @28
    Try looking up “Alast Paperwriter” for the last one? Not sure about the others.

  19. hemidactylus says

    @22- Ray Ceeya
    Aren’t Idaho and eastern Washington basically a white power neonazi ethnostate?

  20. hemidactylus says

    @28- robro and @20- John Morales
    Is this more a bug or feature? I’ve seen these Trackbacks occasionally for a while here but not to the extent on this thread. Is it something PZ should look into or shut down if nefarious? It sure seems distracting as it’s at the bottom of my scrolling especially before replying. If benign or somehow beneficial fine, but I never understood it and I refuse to tap (previously known as click) on suspicious stuff.

  21. chrislawson says

    If Cole loses his license, great, but it should only be the first step in securing a manslaughter conviction.

  22. John Morales says

    [trackbacks]

    Marcus would know better than I, but pretty sure the trackbacks aren’t nefarious as such, other than in the sense some sites scrape content from other sites without attribution, and some of those sites might have malware.

  23. wzrd1 says

    Frankly, I think the trackback thing wouldn’t have really been noticed if it appeared below the comment post box, rather than on top of it.
    So, more of a formatting issue, likely from a software update.

  24. says

    feralboy@8: To quote Capt Kirk in one of his most-lucid moments, I think they took too much LDS back in the 70s. (Especially in Idaho’s northern panhandle and the far-southeast corner of the state.) Boyle’s profile discloses “college” but doesn’t name it; Nichols’s discloses BYU-Idaho — the Brigham Young University for those who think Provo is a den of debauchery because it doesn’t outright ban the sale of coffee and caffeine-containing tea everywhere in town.

    The most important question, though, is whether Sen Nichols and Rep Boyle are individually, or collectively, heavier than a duck. Because that scene in Holy Grail is about as close as these sort of numbskulls come to “logic.”

  25. says

    raven@10: Please remind us, too, about the purity of our precious bodily fluids, and how vaccination is nearly as great a threat as… as… fluoridation. Mandrake, have you ever seen a commie take a drink of water? Well, have you?

  26. StevoR says

    @10. raven : Crikey, Even transphobic bigot JK Rowling knew that any side calling themselves “purebloods” had to be the bad guys and bigoted as..

  27. llyris says

    So…. they want to charge individuals who administer a legal medical preparation but they aren’t looking to ban it nor charge the suppliers. W.T. F.???
    They are just looking for an excuse to bully people who don’t have the means to screw them to the wall the way a pharmaceutical company could.

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