It’s kind of amazing, but this is what happens when you’re educated by Dennis Prager.
I defy you to find a greater self-own by conservatives than this. pic.twitter.com/JW6HquTyis
— Citizen Stewart (@citizenstewart) June 7, 2022
“Racist systems” and “American values” aren’t that different from each other.
It’s true: our whole system. And we’ve got the Nancy Reagan stamps to prove it.
I’d go even further. I’d say they’re synonymous.
Louie Gohmert says hold my beer: “If you’re a Republican, you can’t even lie to Congress or lie to an FBI agent or they’re coming after you,”
I hope that eventually I might stop being impressed by these folks’ shameless self-unawareness.
…reminded me of the early days of the tea-party when conservatives unwittingly called themselves “teabaggers.”
Sooo…CRT then? Too bad they’re not allowed to teach it, or this would have made sense already.
@ 4
I don’t know if they are “unaware” as “they don’t give a shit.” If we limp-wristed, wimpy libs think “American Values” are racist, then so be it. They’re racist and they’re damn proud of it!
Feeling “owned” yet?
This reminds me so much of the rhetoric leading up to the civil war. The plantation owners in the south wanted slavery ingrained in the constitution. In their eyes slavery was an American institution. The modern conservative movement considers racism and oppression of minorities to be an American institution. The GOP is already pushing and passing anti-CRT laws. It’s only a matter of time until they push for a constitutional amendment.
Did I just draw a connection between Antebellum South and modern conservatism? Damn right I did.
If conservatives/Republicans want to claim that America is a Christian nation by dint of the facts that most of the population has been Christian, and so many of the important Founding Fathers were Christian, then by the exact same logic, America is a racist nation because of the facts that most of the population has been racist, and so many of the important Founding Fathers were racists. And many Christians used their Christianity to defend racism.
@ 9
The thing is that a lot of conservative’s believe that like evolution and global warming, racism doesn’t really exist. All of the problems that have befallen nonwhite peoples are ultimately their own fault for not beings as advanced and successful as Europeans. If they were, they wouldn’t have been enslaved, conquered, or wiped out.
White people are just… better. It’s not they’re fault that they are. /s
This is hilarious.
This is T-shirt text material.
@8
No just an American institution, but a Christian institution. A racial order that was ordained by Gawd himself and written into the very fabric of the universe.
But hey, those are just annoying historical facts. I keep forgetting that liberals and leftists have been spending the last couple of decades rehabilitating and defending everyone’s favorite superstitions after those New Atheist meanies made all the progressive Christians and New Age loons cry by telling every that there is no god and belief in such is barbaric and stupid. We can’t bring that up.. I’m sure that Southern slave owners were just cynical, edge-lord “grifters.” It’s all class and economics and that centuries of religious dogma has nothing to do with racism or slavery. What do I know?
@10 I disagree, not only do they think racism exists, but they LIKE racism. They want racism. That’s the only conclusion I can come to at this point. The Mango Moron believed that Obama was disqualified from the presidency because he was born in Africa and not the USA. At the same time John McCain and Ted Cruz both ran for president despite NOT being born in in the USA. One of these things is not like the other. Spoiler alert, it’s skin color.
Their love of racism is at the core of “the great replacement” BS. They crave power and racism is the sharpest tool they have. Scaring white people into voting Republican is the strategy they have chosen. Rather than denying the existence of racism, they have embraced it.
It’s not a coincidence.
Modern conservatism is merely the modern incarnation of a system
of values that also produced slavery and the Confederacy in the
South, and later on, segregation and lynchings.
BTW, I grew up in the South, and I can tell you, the Antebellum
South is not in the past. It is alive and well today. They just got quiet
about it for a while, but now they don’t have to.
I hope you just expressed yourself poorly.
Obama was definitely born in the USA.
The racists, such as Trump and his ilk, simply lie about it. They want
to claim that he was born in Africa to further invalidate him, as if his
being “black” weren’t enough invalidation for them.
@15
Ray’s complete quote was:
So I think it’s safe to assume he (Ray) doesn’t believe that.
I try to make this comment when I hear people talking about Dennis Prager. I have been listening to and reading Conservative media sources since the mid-1960’s. I remember going to the American Opinion bookstore, and have been listening to right wing talk radio since the days of Carl McIntyre and Melvin Munn, almost forgotten forefathers of today’s massive Republican lie factory, or reading the latest anti-evolution screed hot off the presses of the Moody Bible Institute. I first encountered Dennis Prager in the 1980’s, when he was a local talk show host in Los Angeles. In my entire, now pretty vast, exposure to this sort of thing, Prager stands out as the most intellectually dishonest Conservative media figure I have ever encountered. His specialty has always been taking the most nauseating features of right wing thought and projecting them onto liberals. There is not one second that he believes a thing he says; it is all for money and the adulation of the stupid. He does not give a damn that he is knowingly participating in the destruction of our country.
Does Prager know he said that with his outside voice?
@3 I saw it in WashPo. I mean… yeah? Like, that’s their job? Did he lick the peach tree dishes or something?
@5 And then they couldn’t figure out why everyone around them who wasn’t part of the Tea Party movement was doubled over laughing.
@13 John McCain was born on a naval base in Panama, so technically he was born on American soil. Military bases, embassies, consulates, naval ships, etc. all count as American territory for purposes of being native-born American. Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, ie., in the 50th state in America.
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I know the people behind the Lincoln Project are very conservative, but when they turn their nastiness towards exposing crooked Republicans they are more effective than the anemic Demicratic congressmen.
https://youtu.be/-iM_YzjnhcI
or
https://youtu.be/-iM_Yzjnhcl
silvrhalide@18 correctly notes “Military bases, embassies, consulates, naval ships, etc all count as American territory for purposes of being native-born American”, to which I’ll add that in some cases, one can be indisputably born on foreign territory (i.e., none of those cases nor anything similar, location-wise) but still be considered a native-born citizen. I’m such a person, I carry two passports, my USA one lists me as a native-born citizen, and I have a critical document issued by the USA embassy / consulate in the country of my birth, a few weeks after birth, confirming I am a native-born citizen.
@19 I am crying laughing at the “Don Jr. call declined” part of the first video. (The second link video has already been removed.)
#19
How are you measuring effectiveness?
My understanding is that the Lincoln project folks spend their efforts targeting DC insiders be and progressives. Thus they are entertaining and networking for their next gig but have little effect on changing any minds or shifting the thoughts/actions of independents and conservatives.
@Ray Ceeya #13:
John McCain was born on a Navy base, Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii and Ted Cruz was born in a state of bilious ignorance.
I’ve heard a rumour there is some part of Texas state where there are sane people, some part where there are educated people, some part where the locals aren’t racists with Shooty McShootfaces, and bicycle riders have allegedly even been sighted. None of these claims are confirmed, and each seems to be in separate differing locations in both space and time, but collectively they do suggest there are occasional nano-scale pockets of almost-recognisable-normalcy.
Technically, it was a province of bilious ignorance.
Alberta can take him back now. Thanks, bye.
@25 consciousness razor
Technically, it was a province of bilious ignorance. Alberta can take him back now.
Not a hope. He has renounced his citizenship for which probably 90% of Canadians are sincerely thankful even the really loonier members of the United Conservative Party.
@25 consciousness razor
“Technically, it was a province of bilious ignorance.”
OK that one got me. I laughed so hard everyone was staring at me.
Even worse, they believe it’s racist to deny them the right to express racist opinions without being called to account for them.
The reason racism is so popular is, it ties ever so neatly into eugenics. And well, kill all that they consider eugenically impure and life is great again – as long as they’re the masters.
Of course, the power brokers would then have to somehow wrangle their “I’ve got gunz” crowd under control, well, those who survive the eugenics wave of mass extermination…
Then, wonder why nothing works any longer, given their eugenic cultural revolution removing every expert in the land, the molten nuclear reactors, exploding chemical plants, the collapsed highway system and those guys with gunz angrily setting fire to their doors… I know, they can call their seekrit weapon, “We have a Trump”, leading to what little survives to burn.
Maybe sane people will then occupy the continent. Or use it for a monument to the voluminous stupidity of neocon thoughtlessness.
Wow, didn’t check my e-mail for a couple of days, the idiocy in my inbox is phenomenal and some items, comical.
From Tom Wolfe’s newsletter for Pennsylvanians:
“To support the infant formula shortage, $1.75 million has been invested in ByHeart, the first new baby formula manufacturer to hit the U.S. market in 15 years.”
Oh good, glad to hear we’re supporting a shortage. Guess the proofreaders are on vacation. Otherwise, perhaps, it would be to mitigate a shortage. Oh well, I’ve said dumber in my day…
“These Pennsylvania doughnut shops were just ranked among the best in the nation.”
Evolution has completed its tasks and we’ve reached perfection! Someone turn off the sun on the way out…
They’re also still beating the drum on how great their homeowners and renters assistance program, which has so many exceptions and caveats as to literally not exist. Where did I put that pitchfork, I wanna add another layer of dirt and rust to it… Shit, it’s by the torches, I’m so steamed, if I got near that, the blast would likely level the Local Group.
Tom Wolfe’s newsletter for Pennsylvanians? But…?
Oh, that Tom Wolf……..
Y’all are mostly atheists. Walk into a fundie church and they’ll tell you outright that slavery was acceptable because it’s in the Bible ! But just “biblical based” slavery . Men set free after 7 years and only men, women were slaves for life. And only men belonging to the “correct” religion at that. I’ve been hearing this bs even from Black churches along with the women have to be submissive nonsense.
This is why voting rights and women’s autonomy is being err oded especially in the south . Oh and they also openly call for gays and the other alphabet soup people to be murdered “but only legally by the government” . Fundies really do want an abusive, racist, misogynistic, homophobic theocracy here in America. Why do you think that sensible people danced in the street when Trump lost!
As far as magnitude of self-own, what about Brad Anderson tweeting “…I have yet to meet a hetero woman who enthusiastically participates in sex.”
Actually, that particular self-own is apparently pretty common: https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2019/05/14/glorious-self-owns-men-insisting-women-dont-enjoy-sex/