Wouldn’t you know it, this thread would lapse just before Trump was kicked out of office. I wonder if the new thread will be as lively without the Orange Cheeto around to focus our anger? I think Joe might provide some prompting, at least.
Lynna is your curator. Type furiously!
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House Republican echoes white nationalist ‘replacement theory’ during hearing
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A link back to the previous chapter of this thread:
https://proxy.freethought.online/pharyngula/2021/01/18/discuss-political-madness-all-the-time-18/comment-page-7/#comment-2090098
The comment was posted by SC, and she points to a tweet-thread from Aaron Rupar.
Lynna, OM says
Wonkette: “Anthony Fauci, Maxine Waters, Entire World Agree: Time For Jim Jordan To STFU”
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says
Lynn #500 (previous comments) Conga-rats.After a couple of weeks you will sleep better and feel less fear when out doing errands if you are masked.
Bœuf Bourguignon, brings back memories. The Redhead would do a small crock-pot batch once a month when I was a grad student. Definitely a treat on a graduate student’s stipend. Not part of my diet these days (SIGH).
blf says
The Bœuf Burpguignon was Brilliant. To time the cooking after the vin had reduced, I watched Labyrinth. So I’m now got a full stomach, a head full of Bowie songs, and the mildly deranged penguin has put on a goblin costume, with interchangeable Cruz, Koch, and Johnson heads, small hands, and a long red tie bent in a Dilbert manner. I think she wants some more…
Lynna, OM says
Thanks, Nerd @4, I already feel a slight, and welcome, lessening of tension.
Coronavirus update for the USA:
Total cases: 31.4 million
New cases on April 14: 75,267, which is an 11% increase when you look at the 14-day change.
Total deaths: 563,926
Hospitalized on April 14: 45,308, which is an 8% increase when you look at the 14-day change.
About 19% of the adults in the county where I live have been vaccinated. That’s too low.
Lynna, OM says
NBC News:
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Washington Post:
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Washington Post:
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Politico:
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Link
Akira MacKenzie says
@495
Ooooo… I’ve always wanted to try to make Bœuf Burpguignon. Babish’s recipe looks pretty good.
SC (Salty Current) says
Guardian (support the Guardian if you can!) – “Video appears to show Chicago police shooting Adam Toledo, 13, as he raised his hands”:
More at the link.
SC (Salty Current) says
Here’s a link to the April 16 Guardian coronavirus world liveblog.
From their morning summary:
Also in the Guardian – “Spreading faster, hitting harder – why young Brazilians are dying of Covid.”
SC (Salty Current) says
From yesterday’s DN! headlines:
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Also from DN! – “American Insurrection: Deadly Far-Right Extremism from Charlottesville to Capitol Attack. What Next?”:
You can watch the full Frontline documentary American Insurrection online for free right now. I recommend it.
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Guardian world liveblog:
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Simon & Schuster refuses to distribute book by officer who shot Breonna Taylor:
Lynna, OM says
On Capitol Hill, Trump critics spend heavily on personal security
When elected officials have to spend tens of thousands of dollars on personal security, it’s evidence of an unhealthy body politic.
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This was one of Chris Hayes’ best segments ever. “Chris Hayes: The cost of right-wing media’s Covid lies.”
https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/chris-hayes-the-cost-of-right-wing-media-s-covid-lies-110287429587
When Hayes showed us what Tucker Carlson has been saying on Fox News, I gasped. I already knew about all this disinformation being spewed by rightwing media, but still, I was shocked. “Devious, insidious […]
In the state where I live, people are listening to Tucker Carlson and they are opting out of getting vaccinated. “Nihilistic, psychotic […]”
I am thinking that people who live in this state will never be safe.
The misinformation virus. JFC.
The video is 9:42 minutes long.
Lynna, OM says
Mass shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility leaves eight dead, five hospitalized
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Florida passes ‘anti-riot’ bill as civil rights groups warn it will stifle dissent:
There was a thug with a backbone? In Florida? (I have no idea who this was; none of the news articles I checked seem to mention the individual’s name, the state’s senate site does not list party affiliations.)
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Link
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Businessman Convicted of Foreign Lobbying Crimes Paid for Secret Trump White House Mission to Qatar
A grand jury is investigating.
The Trump way is not how things are supposed to be done.
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Video Shows a Chicago 13-Year-Old Had His Hands Up. An Officer Shot and Killed Him.
Body-cam footage differs from a statement put out by the police in the case of Adam Toledo.
On Fox News, Hannity referred to 13-year-old Adam Toledo as a “man.”
More details are available at the Mother Jones link above.
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Guardian world liveblog:
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ABC7 – “Washington D.C.’s first national World War I memorial to unveil; here’s what to expect”:
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Scott McFarlane, NBC:
blf says
France is an outlier in many ways, some good, some not so good. A not so good example is there was no age of consent. Simplifying somewhat, sexual relations with a minor were “legal” (or at least not considered rape) unless the child was “forced, threatened or tricked”. That is coming to an end, albeit there is still a probable flaw, French parliament approves landmark bill setting age of sexual consent at 15:
The Grauniad describes that exception (France toughens age of consent laws to define sex with under-15s as rape) as:
I’ve never heard of such a
exception before. Presumably, the legislators are struggling here with the point that age is an imprecise proxy for understanding, not actual proof of comprehension.SC (Salty Current) says
Guardian world liveblog:
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US-funded broadcaster asks European court to block Russian fines:
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California student body demands ban on caste-based discrimination:
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blf 29:
I thought these age gap allowances are very common across countries. In Finland there’s no specified age gap allowance, but it’s supposed to be based on case by case judgement, including estimation on how mature for their age the parties are. Arguably, that could be problematic too.
Without allowance, you’d get seemingly absurd situations where two minors are guilty of raping each other, or only one of them is a minor but the age gap is less than a year.
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A.J. Delgado:
Thread follows.
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Guardian – “US police and public officials donated to Kyle Rittenhouse, data breach reveals”:
More atl.
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Reuters – “Liberty University sues former president Jerry Falwell Jr.”:
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lumipuna@33, On so-called Romeo and Juliet exceptions: You could easily be correct, i.e., that it is common. I have no recollection of such precisely-detailed exceptions. I’m uncomfortable — or at least dubious about — the precisely-detailed variant being legislated here in France, but as you wisely pointed out, a case-by-case determination can also be quite problematic. The French version, as I understand it, does have some good points; e.g., incest and coercion are not excepted. So I suppose it’s both the size of age gap (five years, not less than one as in your helpful example), and the apparent presumption the consent is made with a reasonable understanding (an 18yo having sex with a 13yo would be “allowed” if not incest and both “consented”, but not all 13yo’s would understand / comprehend (nor do all 18yo’s, but that’s a differing can’o’worms)).
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Antisemitic loon of teh day, Rick Wiles Says the US Is Under the Control of :
No mention of space lasers.
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Today’s misogynistic loon, Dave Daubenmire Declares :
That last quoted-bellow reminded me of this in the Grauniad (yesterday), ‘It’s a scandal, quite frankly’: US Equal Rights Amendment still faces uphill battle.
blf says
The entire document, America First Caucus Policy Platform (PDF) is very creepy.
More snippets (it didn’t copy-and-paste cleanly, so any Tpyos offerings or similar are possibly not in the original but presumably the result my attempts to clean up the mess):
blf says
me@40, Oops! Sorry, wrong thread, that was meant for poopyhead’s current The racists / fascists / white supremacists have a grand plan.
lumipuna says
blf at 37 wrote:
(Side note: I’m pretty sure in Finland an 18 yo would be considered too old for a 13yo.)
I understand that age of consent laws are generally meant to protect against consent violations, rather than against kids consenting to sex while too immature. The latter can be a problem (especially with cultural pressure to have sex as young as possible), but hardly worth criminalizing the kid’s sex partner in absence of coercion or power imbalance. At 13, most kids don’t even want sex yet, and those that do are probably the more mature ones.
The main issue seems to be that adults are often highly capable of sexually coercing or manipulating a young teen in a way that isn’t legally rape (especially with outdated legal definitions of rape), or practically prosecutable as such. Young teens can do this to each other too, but it’s less likely, and also it’s much more common for young teens to want sex with their peers (as opposed to adults), therefore it’s far more plausible that the young teen having sex with a peer is actually consenting. Hence, the principle that adults having sex with young teens should be treated as rape by default, but teens of roughly same age can be given the benefit of doubt.
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Why Ron Johnson’s ugly rhetoric about US ‘demographics’ matters
Ron Johnson’s concerns about efforts to “remake” the nation’s “demographics” were ugly, but they’re also part of unmistakable pattern.
This all bothers me, but “more obedient” is especially galling.
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Bits and pieces of news:
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Doofuses running amok again: 2020 Election Conspiracy Theorists Rush To Bankroll Arizona Senate GOP’s Sketchy Audit
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Follow-up to comment 45.
Posted by readers of the article:
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A few details from today’s White House press briefing:
Link
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Of course Boebert and Greene were the only ones to vote against the National Marrow Donor Program
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Two dead, one officer wounded in San Antonio shooting
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Yoga can leave you injured, psychotic and a Hindu, Christian groups claim:
The nutcases also have a pair of long videos, as well as the Yoga Fact Sheet (PDF). It’s four pages of incoherence, making numerous assertions without citing one single reference (relying mostly, it seems, on alleged quotes from alleged authorities). It doesn’t even bother to define its terms (only what it claims are yoga / Hindu terms); e.g., constantly going on about “EUSD”, which I suspect is the Encinitas Union School District. The loons sued them in c.2012 about a yoga program, and the , whilst undated, looks to date from roughly that time / case. The loonies lost that case in 2015, Legal fight ends over yoga in EUSD schools:
blf says
Tom Gauld in the Grauniad On a publisher who thinks outside the box (cartoon).
Not entirely unrelated, there’s apparently a storage of garden-grown gnomes, Gnome limits: UK garden centres run out after Suez blockage.
Lynna, OM says
blf @51, thanks for the Gauld cartoon. That’s a good one. I thought of Mike Pence’s memoir, which is to be published soon.
As for the shortage of garden gnomes, sorry to hear it. That made me smile. It is a shortage somewhat more bearable than a shortage of toilet paper.
In other news, there is no shortage of batshit bonkers rightwing doofuses in Congress:
Link
Follow-up to comments 48 and 45. Also, PZ aptly criticized the America First Caucus: The racists/fascists/white supremacists have a grand plan
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Follow-up to comment 52.
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Extremism within Facebook groups for elite forces exposes how deep military’s problems run
Michael Flynn, (retired U.S. Army lieutenant general who was Trump’s National Security Advisor for 22 days), swore fealty to QAnon.
blf says
Lynna@52, “As for the shortage of garden gnomes[@51], sorry to hear it. That made me smile. It is a shortage somewhat more bearable than a shortage of toilet paper.”
You’ve obviously either never tried to used a garden-grown gnome as toilet paper, or have a particular affection for ceramic veggie-substitutes.
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blf @55, LOL.
In other news: Judge orders Minnesota officers not to arrest, use force against journalists
Photos available at the link, along with tweets like this:
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Colorado Republican makes lynching joke before whitesplaining the Three-Fifths Compromise
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‘Bullhorn lady’ openly mocked a judge’s order to wear a mask in public. Then a judge found out
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Leaked Calls Reveal ALEC’s Secret Plan to Thwart Biden on Climate
Conservative coalition is “providing the intellectual scaffolding” to resist federal initiatives.
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Russia increases military presence in Black Sea amid rising Ukraine tensions
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On April 16, the number of new coronavirus cases in the USA was 78,932. That number shows an 8% increase when viewed as an average over 14 days.
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Pro-Trump website ‘TheDonald’ confirms detailed plans to storm Capitol and kill members of Congress
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Voting Rights Roundup: Ohio GOP readies new voting restrictions, including a ban on prepaid postage
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Oh, FFS.
Actor Jim Caviezel Warns Of ‘The Adrenochroming Of Children,’ Goes Full QAnon
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“RNC chairwoman Ronna McDaniel comes under pressure to show more independence from Trump.”
Washington Post link
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From the New York Times Editorial Board: “Aleksei Navalny Needs His Doctors”
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Texas bill to carry gun without permit advances to state senate (Grauniad edits in {curly braces}):
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LOL. Understatement by Dr. Fauci.
Link
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Garland’s DOJ reverses Trump-era rule on consent decrees, which help hold local police accountable
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Wonkette:
Link
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Many veterans don’t trust coronavirus vaccines.
Washington Post link
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The GOP’s big bulk book-buying machine is boosting Republicans on the bestseller lists.
Washington Post link
blf says
I reheating the Bœuf Bourguignon leftovers from earlier for tonight’s dinner. The smell when I opened the chilled container it was in was superb, so as it gently, very gently, warms up, the mildly deranged penguin is again bouncing off the ways will only a few complaints that it doesn’t contain any cheese. There is, of course, cheese for afters — and I’m tempted to open a bottle of port. However, due to the pandemic cutting trips to the only(?) local vin shop with a tolerable selection of ports, I’m quite low on port, so probably won’t… besides, by then, having had some nice vin.
Speaking of vin, a long-established “orientalist” / hippy shop in the village closed at the beginning of this year (victim of the pandemic, I suspect, as a lot of their customers were visitors). It is apparently being replaced by a vin shop / bar.
According to the French Covid-19 track-and-trace app, all of 12m people have been vaccinated (at least one jab) since vaccinations started almost 5 months ago. Currently, ICU occupancy is c.124% in my general area, and c.116% nation-wide. Over 80% of the positive tests are for the British variant, with the S.African variant at around 4%. However, both in this area and nation-wide, R has finally dropped to just below 1, albeit that could be a glitch caused by the weekend, etc.
lumipuna says
blf – I just finished eating a soup made from reindeer bones I managed to buy recently from local supermarket (an uncommon opportunity in southern Finland, as usually only the the more expensive parts of reindeer are sold down here and the scraps are eaten locally in the north or just discarded). The soup itself was not that impressive, but the meat scraps and marrow extracted from the bones were heavenly.